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Childofgrace18:
There is work here, just think the sector u want to venture into. If you want to be a health care assistant, just get someone in Nigeria that has a hospital that will give u reference, then add it to your CV that I have 5years experience with them, then you will prepare your CV to European standard to stand out, after that, you will do some certification in "Alison", you don't need to pay for the courses, just download the demo cert after the assessment. You can as well start with warehouse jobs. Work plenty here, but they sha require experience, but almost all the Nigerians here lie about their work experience.

I usually like these kind of street orientations😁

The Allison courses, is it necessary for the certificate issued or for the knowledge acquired?

Thank you!

optimusprime2:
Depending on the country you definitely have to switch majors...
I suggest you even switch to a Bachelor's in IT (data analysis) & do a masters in management ...

Yes the road is long... but possible

US is the goal or good EU countries.

I’m deffo not getting another bachelors. It’s not even worth it to do Bachelors is Data analysis when short courses would suffice.

I’m not an IT person though.

Thank you.

Dijita:
Do your masters in accounting and pass the accounting certification like nigeria ICAN in the country you resides.

Will do thanks!

Albertone:
At least I have the brains to think.
I’m sure this your response was AI-generated.

You are poor and don’t have brain,that is why you are bitter towards people. People that have brain don’t start insulting people.
These days there are many things online that are AI generated, people don’t insult those posters. Check yourself, you are depressed and you think insulting people will remove you from depression but it will not

bolu96:
Hi Gerrard, could you say what you studied in school? The CGPA you graduated with? If you feel it's too much information to reveal, you could give an hint.
For instance, the course- you could say STEM or humanities. CGPA- You could use class of degree.

Thank you.

A no-name university. That is, the name was too useless for my liking. Although, I see the school making strides these days especially in publications and rankings. But then, it was a no-name university to me. It is part of the reason I vowed that if I don't get to attend an elite university outside Nigeria, I rather go to Covenant.
A biology related course. Na why more than 70% of my classmates were girls. In fact, there were only five boys in my department. The sister department had more boys than we did, but again, there were more girls as well.
Pure water second class upper, but above 4.0+ and I made the Vice Chancellor's List during my third and final year. Three from my department and five from the sister department. Only one girl made the list from both departments.

Albertone:
Thank you very much. Quite insightful.

I also appreciate your contributions towards similar topics. I’ve seen a handful of them and they’re always insightful. Thank you once again.

That 3 years OPT is for H1B trial and shots at AA women😁

The globally recognised firm is Nigerian o. That is, you should strive to garner quality and cognate work experience after graduation in Nigeria before venturing outside. Thus, the firm should be globally recognised.

Thanks for the comments.

Contact Elders group of companies. We will get a job from here before you travel. That's what we do. Call me on - 07014066673

Gerrard59:
A no-name university. That is, the name was too useless for my liking. Although, I see the school making strides these days especially in publications and rankings. But then, it was a no-name university to me. It is part of the reason I vowed that if I don't get to attend an elite university outside Nigeria, I rather go to Covenant.
A biology related course. Na why more than 70% of my classmates were girls. In fact, there were only five boys in my department. The sister department had more boys than we did, but again, there were more girls as well.
Pure water second class upper, but above 4.0+ and I made the Vice Chancellor's List during my third and final year. Three from my department and five from the sister department. Only one girl made the list from both departments.

Interesting. At the bolded, lol. I can relate to it.
Thank you for the info.

At the second bolded, when you say it like that, you seem to downplay your effort, sounds like you are kinda angry with yourself for not doing better. Perhaps why you are particular about first class grads. I might be wrong though.

Albertone:
OP here

If Nairaland could bookmark posts, I sure would bookmark this for constant revisit. So many insights in one post.

I have a couple of questions.
1. One can easily gain money-earning experience by getting a good job. However, not all jobs afford one the opportunity to learn business management. How do you suggest one learn business management as an employee in a firm where you don’t get to see the business workings of the firm?

2. I entered crypto without much knowledge, I got my hands burnt. The volatility watered down my interests in it.
As for stock trading, If I were to start trading today, what do I need to know about the losses within it? Losing the little I have now will be beyond devastating.


Lastly, you have passed through my situation before and you are now way ahead. I wouldn’t mind getting ongoing MENTORSHIP from you please.
As for the value I should offer in return, I may not have financial resources, but I believe you can find value in me which you might need.

Thank you Sir.

Question 1:
Business management is in-depth. Bro. ....I am just going to tell you the truth. When you get started, you will notice your weaknesses. All you need to do is look up materials online to learn how to strengthen your weaknesses. For example, I used to lack HR skills. I was not sure how to hire the right person. It was not until I completed my MBA that I realised it was a major issue for me. Then I had to find resources to learn how to hire the best talent. Now, I can navigate it very well. And this is the primary reason I closed my agricultural business: I realized that I needed to increase my investments in the agrobusiness before I could retain the best talent in Nigeria. If not, I will keep wasting my resources....bro...I wasted so much money before realising this. Without other sources of income, I would have been crushed while struggling to maintain a meaningful agrobusiness profit. So, if you have a source of income, you can use it to purchase knowledge in any field if you are willing to invest both time and money. However, you will make mistakes along the way, but your income will keep you going. This is why you need a source of income when starting out. If you do not have a source of income, you will be easily crushed.

Number 2: The concept of investment is encapsulated in one skill: trading. Trading is the skill required to be able to invest. This skill entails learning both technical analysis and fundamental skills. The first thing you should learn is technical analysis, which includes how to read charts. If you can read forex charts well, you can also read cryptocurrency, stock, and futures charts. This is a strategy for assets with a significant amount of data, such as two to three decades. This is why we always recommend that 80% of your crypto assets be in a coin with enough data, which are primarily bitcoin, etherum, and Solana. Then, about 10% should go into promising assets with strong community support. Similarly, etherum began with developers. As long as there are developers, Ethereum will not fail. Then, doge appears to be the fourth if it is associated with electric vehicles. Now that Finland has increased its investment in electric vehicles and Tesla is its official partner, the doge coin is poised for greater success. Also, Elon Musk has linked it to the new department Trump directed him to lead. These are reasons to learn more about doge. The remaining 10% can then be used to invest in any other promising coin, fully aware that such an investment could easily be lost.

Investment is a risky endeavor that should be approached with extreme caution. Most people are eager to begin investing while they should be learning. I have writing about trading and how to go about it. I wish I had started earlier myself, but I am grateful to God for opening my eyes.

If not for Covid-19, Africa would remain in the dark. However, YouTube's acceptance as a result of Covid19 is why there are so many free materials available online. This is why I do not joke about buying enough data to study online every day. Check out my other trading-related threads. It is a boring lane, and few people travel down it. I recommend that you stop investing in it and instead focus on improving your analytical trading skills. If you can know how to trade, you are financially free. Even so-called experts are constantly learning...so the journey is long.

Albertone:
I usually like these kind of street orientations😁

The Allison courses, is it necessary for the certificate issued or for the knowledge acquired?

Thank you!

Both knowledge and certificates are important. But they have a demo certificate u can present to your potential employer as evidence, although in 95% time, they don't need it, the skills and u being able to prove it matters a lot.

bolu96:
Interesting. At the bolded, lol. I can relate to it.
Thank you for the info.

At the second bolded, when you say it like that, you seem to downplay your effort, sounds like you are kinda angry with yourself for not doing better. Perhaps why you are particular about first class grads. I might be wrong though.

Yes, a regret I have in life is not graduating with a first class. I sacrificed a lot for it.

But looking back, I try sha. I surpassed almost everyone who passed me during year one. The girl who made the Chancellor List was so hot during Yr 1, but at the final lap, I surpassed her with 0.001 point. It gives me joy till date to beat her on the final lap. The guy who came best (not a first class as well) did very well by giving us enough gap. No first class from my department, but the sister department had two and could have had three if the third lad was serious during the final year.

Yes, I have a predilection for first class grads. I want to know their trajectories. I used to read Punch Campus Champion. I bookmarked the page. I read the interview of Ayodele Dada and many others. In fact, then, once I see you graduated with a first class, I immediately follow you on Instagram and LinkedIn. Also, I made friends with a lot of first class grads including the three female corp members posted to my department. One is an associate professor in China. The second is a business analyst in Canada and the third is an investment banker in Lagos. I also made friends with folks who were not too serious with their books, and e sure me die say one of them go become governor or legislator as they are all politicians today.

Gerrard59:
Yes, a regret I have in life is not graduating with a first class. I sacrificed a lot for it.

But looking back, I try sha. I surpassed almost everyone who passed me during year one. The girl who made the Chancellor List was so hot during Yr 1, but at the final lap, I surpassed her with 0.001 point. It gives me joy till date to beat her on the final lap. The guy who came best (not a first class as well) did very well by giving us enough gap. No first class from my department, but the sister department had two and could have had three if the third lad was serious during the final year.

Yes, I have a predilection for first class grads. I want to know their trajectories. I used to read Punch Campus Champion. I bookmarked the page. I read the interview of Ayodele Dada and many others. In fact, then, once I see you graduated with a first class, I immediately follow you on Instagram and LinkedIn. Also, I made friends with a lot of first class grads including the three female corp members posted to my department. One is an associate professor in China. The second is a business analyst in Canada and the third is an investment banker in Lagos. I also made friends with folks who were not too serious with their books, and e sure me die say one of them go become governor or legislator as they are all politicians today.

I understand you very well. I share your sentiments as well. I preach it to every students around me. The first nairalander I followed was xfire.. I think he has deactivated now but I read his thread(2014) on career, they were so valuable. He had the same regret as you finishing extremely close to a first. If you check my earliest posts, you'd see my comments on it. Jarus made a first too(4.57). It was why I followed him.

I'm currently in school( went back) in my 3rd year, CGPA is above 4.0+, my chances of making a first is very slim. I'd need to do extremely well this session and next to stand a great chance.

bolu96:
I understand you very well. I share your sentiments as well. I preach it to every students around me. The first nairalander I followed was xfire.. I think he has deactivated now but I read his thread(2014) on career, they were so valuable. He had the same regret as you finishing extremely close to a first. If you check my earliest posts, you'd see my comments on it. Jar.us made a first too(4.57). It was why I followed him. I'm currently in school( went back) in my 3rd year, CGPA is above 4.0+, my chances of making a first is very slim. I'd need to do extremely well this session and next to stand a great chance.

Oh Xfire! Man, you took me a long way back. I read his thread and downloaded the PDF file after the Nairaland hack in 2014. I still remember Xfire's number one mistake students make in not achieving first class: womanising. See why I said I sacrificed a lot?

Do permutations and combinations, but try to hit 5.0 across the remaining semesters. That way, even if you don't attain first class, you did your best, especially on the final lap.

Gerrard59:
Oh Xfire! Man, you took me a long way back. I read his thread and downloaded the PDF file after the Nairaland hack in 2014. I still remember Xfire's number one mistake students make in not achieving first class: womanising. See why I said I sacrificed a lot?

Do permutations and combinations,
but try to hit 5.0 across the remaining semesters. That way, even if you don't attain first class, you did your best, especially on the final lap.

Yes, Xfire. I loved that man(no homo). Gave a lot of valuable lessons in which anybody who's serious about career and academic growth should follow. Last I followed, he was working in the oil sector. He would have gone very far now. He even used to organise scholarships.

At the bolded, I have.
At seconded bolded, it would get me to about 4.6.
Thank you. I'd give it my best.

Albertone:
Thank you

But one can’t just pivot from teaching to auditing upon landing without having issues. The visa might be tied to the teaching job. I stand to be corrected though.

What about the school route if finances weren’t to be an issue?

The visa won't be tide to the teaching job. You will be migrating as a permanent resident with the right to work in any field of your choice. You are only using the teacher occupation to get yourself into the country as a PR. It doesn't mean that you must teach. You can work in any field of your choice if you choose to.

I am telling you this because as a fresh graduate, your Business Administration qualification can't get you in without having worked in a high demand occupation with sufficient years of experience. This is where common sense comes in. But with your Post Graduate Diploma in Education (PGDE) from any Nigeria university and EILTS English test, you can successfully migrate as a permanent resident without having to pass through the study route that requires huge amounts of money.

Even now, most of the countries had tightened their migration rules so much that you can't even stay back after rounding off your post graduate studies abroad, with the exception of the UK and probably the US.

To me, if you really want to migrate, follow this route I just disclosed to you as you are still young. So that when you get in, you have permanently secured your stay. You can then pursue your interest from there by taking some short programs to pursue your Audit career from there.

Gerrard59:
The globally recognised firm is Nigerian o. That is, you should strive to garner quality and cognate work experience after graduation in Nigeria before venturing outside. Thus, the firm should be globally recognised.

Thanks for the comments.

I understand.
Thank you.

epainos:
Question 1:
Business management is in-depth. Bro. ....I am just going to tell you the truth. When you get started, you will notice your weaknesses. All you need to do is look up materials online to learn how to strengthen your weaknesses. For example, I used to lack HR skills. I was not sure how to hire the right person. It was not until I completed my MBA that I realised it was a major issue for me. Then I had to find resources to learn how to hire the best talent. Now, I can navigate it very well. And this is the primary reason I closed my agricultural business: I realized that I needed to increase my investments in the agrobusiness before I could retain the best talent in Nigeria. If not, I will keep wasting my resources....bro...I wasted so much money before realising this. Without other sources of income, I would have been crushed while struggling to maintain a meaningful agrobusiness profit. So, if you have a source of income, you can use it to purchase knowledge in any field if you are willing to invest both time and money. However, you will make mistakes along the way, but your income will keep you going. This is why you need a source of income when starting out. If you do not have a source of income, you will be easily crushed.

Number 2: The concept of investment is encapsulated in one skill: trading. Trading is the skill required to be able to invest. This skill entails learning both technical analysis and fundamental skills. The first thing you should learn is technical analysis, which includes how to read charts. If you can read forex charts well, you can also read cryptocurrency, stock, and futures charts. This is a strategy for assets with a significant amount of data, such as two to three decades. This is why we always recommend that 80% of your crypto assets be in a coin with enough data, which are primarily bitcoin, etherum, and Solana. Then, about 10% should go into promising assets with strong community support. Similarly, etherum began with developers. As long as there are developers, Ethereum will not fail. Then, doge appears to be the fourth if it is associated with electric vehicles. Now that Finland has increased its investment in electric vehicles and Tesla is its official partner, the doge coin is poised for greater success. Also, Elon Musk has linked it to the new department Trump directed him to lead. These are reasons to learn more about doge. The remaining 10% can then be used to invest in any other promising coin, fully aware that such an investment could easily be lost.

Investment is a risky endeavor that should be approached with extreme caution. Most people are eager to begin investing while they should be learning. I have writing about trading and how to go about it. I wish I had started earlier myself, but I am grateful to God for opening my eyes.

If not for Covid-19, Africa would remain in the dark. However, YouTube's acceptance as a result of Covid19 is why there are so many free materials available online. This is why I do not joke about buying enough data to study online every day. Check out my other trading-related threads. It is a boring lane, and few people travel down it. I recommend that you stop investing in it and instead focus on improving your analytical trading skills. If you can know how to trade, you are financially free. Even so-called experts are constantly learning...so the journey is long.

Thank you so much for the detailed response.

However, there are no trading posts on your profile. I presume you’re referring to your alternate account. If so, kindly let me know the username.

Childofgrace18:
Both knowledge and certificates are important. But they have a demo certificate u can present to your potential employer as evidence, although in 95% time, they don't need it, the skills and u being able to prove it matters a lot.

Alright thank you

Albertone:
US is the goal or good EU countries.

I’m deffo not getting another bachelors. It’s not even worth it to do Bachelors is Data analysis when short courses would suffice.

I’m not an IT person though.

Thank you.

The bolded is the reason why another bachelors may be necessary for you...

As far as business is concerned especially in the US, you will need some serious IT skills especially since you will be dealing with very highly skilled competitors (the Asian immigrant's & even other Nigerians- with double PhD's)

Short courses in data science and IT are good if you already had a tech or related background, so you basically adapt yourself for the US job market with the short courses.

However if you didn't have the background, the competition in that domain will be too high for you to cope with especially in some states... except you suddenly become a coding guru and developer with a genius startup plan.


Otherwise you have to drastically switch careers like some others have done I.e Nursing... and here is the news flash, yes! you may need to do another bachelors in Nursing, because those CNA short programs won't just cut it for the top paying Nursing jobs.

In Europe on the other hand because of language, I suggest people going there freshly to start a bachelors if possible because they literally cook you afresh... however if you go to most European countries at an advanced age, language will be readily become the main challenge I.e French, German, Spanish etc regardless of your discipline and most people get relegated to blue collar jobs...

So Chairman unless you are ready for intense manual labour for at least 5years and possibly an educational reset with another Bachelor's Degree potentially... don't push to japa, it may not be for you.

Mcslize:
The visa won't be tide to the teaching job. You will be migrating as a permanent resident with the right to work in any field of your choice. You are only using the teacher occupation to get yourself into the country as a PR. It doesn't mean that you must teach. You can work in any field of your choice if you choose to.

I am telling you this because as a fresh graduate, your Business Administration qualification can't get you in without having worked in a high demand occupation with sufficient years of experience. This is where common sense comes in. But with your Post Graduate Diploma in Education (PGDE) from any Nigeria university and EILTS English test, you can successfully migrate as a permanent resident without having to pass through the study route that requires huge amounts of money.

Even now, most of the countries had tightened their migration rules so much that you can't even stay back after rounding off your post graduate studies abroad, with the exception of the UK and probably the US.

To me, if you really want to migrate, follow this route I just disclosed to you as you are still young. So that when you get in, you have permanently secured your stay. You can then pursue your interest from there by taking some short programs to pursue your Audit career from there.

Thanks a lot for this.

Which countries can I migrate to with the teaching route? Canada comes to mind as you talk about PR on arrival, but what other countries?

Secondly, do I need to get a job offer from Nigeria here?

Albertone:
Thanks a lot for this.

Which countries can I migrate to with the teaching route? Canada comes to mind as you talk about PR on arrival, but what other countries?

Secondly, do I need to get a job offer from Nigeria here?

It's Australia. Australia needs teachers. Teachers are hot cake. But you must prepare very well to ace your EILTS English test by scoring the following bands: Speaking 8 Listening 8 Writing 7 Reading 7.

No, you don't need to get a job from Nigeria. Once you get your visa, you are good to enter the country legally with full permit to stay indefinitely. When you get there, you can look for a job. There are lots of jobs you can do over there.

The English test is the major hurdle. It's what is giving people issue. If you can ace it, be rest assured your migration is 70% sure as far as you have the funds to run the whole process.

optimusprime2:
The bolded is the reason why another bachelors may be necessary for you...

As far as business is concerned especially in the US, you will need some serious IT skills especially since you will be dealing with very highly skilled competitors (the Asian immigrant's & even other Nigerians- with double PhD's)

Short courses in data science and IT are good if you already had a tech or related background, so you basically adapt yourself for the US job market with the short courses.

However if you didn't have the background, the competition in that domain will be too high for you to cope with especially in some states... except you suddenly become a coding guru and developer with a genius startup plan.


Otherwise you have to drastically switch careers like some others have done I.e Nursing... and here is the news flash, yes! you may need to do another bachelors in Nursing, because those CNA short programs won't just cut it for the top paying Nursing jobs.

In Europe on the other hand because of language, I suggest people going there freshly to start a bachelors if possible because they literally cook you afresh... however if you go to most European countries at an advanced age, language will be readily become the main challenge I.e French, German, Spanish etc regardless of your discipline and most people get relegated to blue collar jobs...

So Chairman unless you are ready for intense manual labour for at least 5years and possibly an educational reset with another Bachelor's Degree potentially... don't push to japa, it may not be for you.

I appreciate you!

How about a masters in Management Information Systems? It is an IT degree and a branch of Business Administration(that’s why I can get masters in it directly)
Do you know about its marketability abroad??

As for Europe, I can continue learning my German and reach B1. So language won’t be an issue.

Mcslize:
It's Australia. Australia needs teachers. Teachers are hot cake. But you must prepare very well to ace your EILTS English test by scoring the following bands: Speaking 8 Listening 8 Writing 7 Reading 7.

No, you don't need to get a job from Nigeria. Once you get your visa, you are good to enter the country legally with full permit to stay indefinitely. When you get there, you can look for a job. There are lots of jobs you can do over there.

The English test is the major hurdle. It's what is giving people issue. If you can ace it, be rest assured your migration is 70% sure as far as you have the funds to run the whole process.

I appreciate you man!

Albertone:
I appreciate you!

How about a masters in Management Information Systems? It is an IT degree and a branch of Business Administration(that’s why I can get masters in it directly)
Do you know about its marketability abroad??

As for Europe, I can continue learning my German and reach B1. So language won’t be an issue.

Yes MIS is a good branch ... if you back it up with skills. Consider the IT diploma to be a gateway to a sector, how ever the keys are your skills.

eg MIS in the US without serious soft skills to back it up like coding skills or devops skills or Cybersecurity will be an empty effort.

So focus on the soft skill you wish to master not just the academics.

Albertone:
Thanks

The roles I’ll get with this degree aren’t hot cake roles, so it will be difficult for me to convince employers when many of their nationals can do the job without needing sponsorship. This is based solely on my research online.

What if I have ACCA plus solid work experience with a multinational accounting firm(e.g Big 4), will I be able to get a work permit to work in the accounting field in EU?

One thing you should understand is you won't get hired right away into the big roles. Call it rac.sim, it doesn't matter. Odds are naturally stacked against our race. You would usually have to start from the ground up regardless and this makes sense for you and for them. They are helping you get a foothold in the country, you are providing them with cheaper labour and skills.

Ever wonder why regulated professions like doctors always have to get new certifications to practice? Your former certs are more than often tossed aside (not always though especially if you are in tech or design with some mad projects in your portfolio). Many times, they also prefer graduates with certificates from their univerisities.

That sorted, you need to search for regions/municipalities in the country of interest with high demand/shortage of your skills. That is where you should focus your search because some governments waive the requirements of advertising on the job boards or confirming there's no suitable labour in the EU simply because the skills are already in the shortage list.

An alternative route is to double downoon academics and secure a PhD. That givess you 3 years at least to blend in after which you can switch to the "hot cake" roles you desire.

laivwire:
One thing you should understand is you won't get hired right away into the big roles. Call it rac.sim, it doesn't matter. Odds are naturally stacked against our race. You would usually have to start from the ground up regardless and this makes sense for you and for them. They are helping you get a foothold in the country, you are providing them with cheaper labour and skills.

Ever wonder why regulated professions like doctors always have to get new certifications to practice? Your former certs are more than often tossed aside (not always though especially if you are in tech or design with some mad projects in your portfolio). Many times, they also prefer graduates with certificates from their univerisities.

That sorted, you need to search for regions/municipalities in the country of interest with high demand/shortage of your skills. That is where you should focus your search because some governments waive the requirements of advertising on the job boards or confirming there's no suitable labour in the EU simply because the skills are already in the shortage list.

An alternative route is to double downoon academics and secure a PhD. That givess you 3 years at least to blend in after which you can switch to the "hot cake" roles you desire.

Thanks a lot!
I appreciate!

optimusprime2:
Yes MIS is a good branch ... if you back it up with skills. Consider the IT diploma to be a gateway to a sector, how ever the keys are your skills.

eg MIS in the US without serious soft skills to back it up like coding skills or devops skills or Cybersecurity will be an empty effort.

So focus on the soft skill you wish to master not just the academics.

Thanks a lot
I appreciate!

KaptainAfrika:
Things to do:

1. Work experience in IT

2. Diploma in IT in the abroad, diploma's are used when you want to change career, from you can do Advanced diploma etc.

3. Work experience in IT

If he is good in Math, he should go for Advanced Diploma in Economics in Cambridge and then do Masters.

Is it degree you have or certificate?

Mindlog:
I dey use am work for abroad.

Love800:
Is it degree you have or certificate?

My undergraduate and postgraduate degrees in Psychology.

Migrate as a teacher. How is it done?

Mcslize:
Your course is kinda ceremonial. That's why I am glad I studied a STEM course during my time. Cuz with it, I can migrate even without having a single work experience. But I must prove my skills through assessment to ascertain that I truly acquired my qualification. It's not just a walk through process.

But there is a way out for you to augment your business admin qualification. After rounding off your biz admin, go and do a 1 and half years or 2 years PGDE and migrate as a teacher. This is one of the best options for you cuz I won't suggest school route to you if you are not financially buoyant. You only need to battle with EILTS.

Teachers are hot cake abroad. You don't even need any work experience. All you need is your 45 days teaching practice and you are good to go.

Your current main aim should be how to legally migrate to your preferred country and have a permanent stay. When you get there, you can then pursue your Audit career.