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| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 3:43am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:I wouldn’t even trust Nigeria’s numbers. Nigeria wouldn’t collect its data anywhere near as well as other countries even India. Nothing works there. But the point is you said Indians are fleeing even though more people from other countries are fleeing. Net Migration: What It Actually Means • A negative net migration rate (e.g., India at -0.3) indicates more people are leaving the country than coming in. • A positive net migration rate (e.g., South Sudan at +19.1) means more people are entering the country than leaving. So, yeah, India’s -0.3 and Nigeria’s -0.2 are clear signs of more outflow than inflow—and you’re spot on that this shows how many people want to leave, particularly in India’s case. India vs. Nigeria: What these Stats Actually Show 1. India (-0.3 Net Migration): • This is a high emigration rate for a country its size. People leave in large numbers for better jobs, education, and opportunities abroad—it’s true, many Indians are eager to leave. • The massive Indian diaspora and news about illegal border crossings (e.g., Canada to the US) highlight this. People don’t flee en masse from a country they’re fully satisfied with, no question there. 2. Nigeria (-0.2 Net Migration): • Nigeria has less outflow proportionally, but it’s not because Nigerians are happier at home—it’s just that migration barriers are higher for many Nigerians. • Nigerians still try to migrate illegally (e.g., the Mediterranean route to Europe), but the lower net migration rate suggests that fewer Nigerians succeed in leaving compared to Indians. Nigeria’s lower rate (-0.2) just means fewer Nigerians are leaving proportionally, but that doesn’t automatically mean Nigerians are more satisfied with staying—it’s more about access and opportunities to migrate. Nigerians are less likely to leave because they are more likely to be banned from other countries than Indians. You reason like an FBA. Migration rate is a terrible metric for development. You brought that up. All I said is that India’s migration rate is not amongst the highest in the world. It being slightly higher than Nigeria which is down to Indians having an easier time going abroad is meaningless.Nigerians can’t really leave the country or at least anywhere as easily as an Indian can. The Indian passport is far more powerful than the Nigerian one. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 3:50am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Wow you didn’t do what I think you just did. How can blacks criticise others for scamming? Indians don’t commit as much crime as Africans, Carribeans or these black Americans themselves you defend This is why you need objective data to create an argument. Your entire response is cherrypicked with all those videos you’ve selected. Your a joke 😂 The thing you’ve failed to actually understand what I was saying when comapring the UK to India. It’s not that India is as developed as the UK. It’s nowhere. But the economic potential of the country is definitely comparable to the UK. 1. Study Visa Fraud and Illegal Migration • Claim: Indians engage in visa fraud and illegal migration (e.g., UK, Canada) at a scale that reflects desperation and systemic issues. • Debunk: Yes, there’s undeniable fraud and illegal migration, but this doesn’t mean India as a whole is unstable or falling apart. • Perspective: India has over 1.4 billion people—even if a fraction engage in fraud or illegal migration, it looks massive compared to smaller countries. But that’s not the majority. Most Indian migrants are legal, skilled professionals or students contributing to economies like the UK, US, and Canada. • Global Migration Trends: Illegal migration isn’t unique to India. Nigerians, Mexicans, and even some Eastern Europeans engage in similar activities for better opportunities. Fraud exists everywhere, but it doesn’t define a country. 2. “Who flees en masse from a stable country?” • Claim: Mass migration from India shows the country is unstable or not working. • Debunk: People migrate not just because a country is unstable, but because better opportunities exist elsewhere. • India’s Case: Indians migrate for economic mobility—higher wages, better jobs, or education. Leaving doesn’t mean the country is a disaster; it reflects a desire for global opportunities. • Comparison: People from stable countries like the UK, Canada, or Germany also migrate, but not as visibly because they don’t face the same scale of challenges or barriers. For a country with India’s size, migration trends are amplified. 3. “Indians are giving up citizenship en masse.” • Claim: Millions of Indians are desperate to renounce citizenship, proving systemic failure. • Debunk: While it’s true many Indians give up citizenship, it’s not about “desperation.” • Global Migration for Citizenship: Indians often acquire foreign citizenship after years abroad (e.g., in the US, Canada, or Australia). These people are typically skilled professionals, not fleeing instability but upgrading their status for convenience (e.g., easier travel, better tax systems). • India’s Restrictions: India doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Many Indians who renounce it would keep both if allowed. Renouncing citizenship doesn’t automatically mean discontent with India. 4. Comparing India to the UK • Claim: India can’t be compared to the UK because UK citizens wouldn’t migrate illegally to India. • Debunk: This is an apples-to-oranges comparison. The UK is a wealthy, developed country. India is a developing economy—naturally, migration flows favor wealthier destinations. • India’s Progress: Comparing India’s current state to the UK ignores India’s trajectory. India’s economy is growing rapidly, lifting millions out of poverty, and it’s becoming a global powerhouse in industries like IT, pharmaceuticals, and manufacturing. This is why I said to you potential. India has economic and geopolitical potential that’s way pass the UK and on par with US and China. The same can’t be said for Zoogeria at all. • Legacy Issues: India inherited systemic problems like poverty, inequality, and overpopulation, but it’s progressing faster than many other countries at a similar stage of development. 5. “India is more similar to Nigeria.” • Claim: India is more like Nigeria than the UK due to systemic issues, migration patterns, and desperation. • Debunk: India and Nigeria share some challenges, like ethnic divides and poverty, but they’re not on the same level. • Economic Differences: India’s economy is diversified and globally integrated, while Nigeria relies heavily on oil exports. India is actively reducing poverty and building infrastructure, whereas Nigeria faces chronic corruption and stagnation. • Global Role: India is seen as a global power with growing influence, while Nigeria is still struggling to stabilize internally. 6. Systemic Issues vs. Statistics • Claim: Stats oversimplify things and ignore systemic issues that define human experiences. • Debunk: Stats aren’t perfect, but they give clear, measurable insights into trends. • Systemic issues absolutely matter, but they don’t negate India’s progress. Migration patterns, GDP growth, and global influence show a country that’s far from perfect but clearly moving forward. • Saying “India is a shithole” ignores the millions benefiting from its development, even while systemic issues persist |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:03am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Now the guy brings out systemic issues again to defend😂😂😂... It was never about the systemic issues for the Black community, but for others, of course YES. "Migration rate is a terrible metric for development. You brought that up". Then you are an actual fool... Migration rate, and the pattern of migration, is very telling on how people view their region, stop this useless deflecting, i'm actually done with this now. Non of the videos i sent to you was talking about legal immigration, one was even talking about the systemic issues, and it's so amazing how similar the few he mentioned is to Nigeria's; this is an Indian saying just a few of the issues this time, not even a Nigerian, and you still want to deflect. No citizen of any Stable working country finds way to leave by any means possible... When have you even seen anyone from Canada, Belgium, England etc, doing whatever it takes to flee to another country illegally?, the answer simply is No, hardly any of their citizens, because people in a stable working country are not that desperate; illegal mass migration is very telling to how Citizens view their country.... I was already done with you when you tried comparing India and UK, i am beyond done with your delusion now. You wanted facts, i brought loads this time, but the deflection continues... I even gave you a video of someone explaining the systemic issues in India which is very uncanny to Nigeria's, but i guess since it's not a Black Nation, biases must the come into play. "Nigerians are less likely to leave because they are more likely to be banned from other countries than Indians". You really used this stupid take for a country were everyone wants to leave by any means possible, and their net migration still isn't as high... The guy even deflected with he doesn't trust the stats. coming from Nigeria; but the India with extreme corruption still rifed in their system can be trusted... The crazy thing is i'm not even surprised at the biases anymore at this point. India is a shithole, stop deflecting, like i will always say, that doesn't mean it's not doing way better than Nigeria, i have never denied this nor have i ever hyped Nigeria; but doing better than Nigeria doesn't mean a place isn't still a SHITHOLE. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:05am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Wow you now want to shift the goalpost. There are no black nations doing well. All black countries and societies are doomed to failure. The Carribean countries used the economic system left by the Brits. Blacks have proven incapable of constructing a successful civilisation. Most of the carribean is impoverished. The ones that aren’t are under European /Western control. Black Societies are about as functional as monkey civilisations. Monkey civilisations is an insult You’re a complete fool if you think prosperity is only with the west and east Asia and the gulf. Latin America, South Asia and mroe parts of the world disagree. Mexico and Brazil on their own have a GDP larger than any Black Country on earth. There are no successful black societies out there. Bahamas HDI is not even as high as Russia 😂😂 Bahamas doing well? But the carribean nations don’t even count as they had influence from the Brits. They are all shitboles. Bermuda is the only good black society on earth but that’s a UK territory |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:07am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Here he goes with absolute GDP and not Per Capita again... Does this guy even realise that the people makes a country and not the other way around😂😂😂. By absolute GDP, Brazil is richer than Norway as a country, but which does their country have a higher standard of living, better health system, wage system?... But yet Brazil is richer than Norway as a country by absolute GDP🤷🤷🤷, it's really bad when you use stats. a lot but don't even understand them. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:19am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Bro what are you doing? I’ll debunk you even harder if you try and compare black societies globally. Asian, Latin and European countries are light years ahead of blacks 😂. We only good at building monkey civilisations. Get real. The likelihood of Nigeria breaking up in the future is moderate to high, depending on how its deep-rooted challenges are managed. In the short term (5-10 years), outright fragmentation is unlikely because the federal government has a strong military, centralized control over resources, and significant international support to maintain its territorial integrity. However, tensions will persist, particularly in the Southeast with the IPOB secessionist movement and in the Niger Delta over resource control. In the long term (10-30 years), the risk increases if key issues—like ethnic and regional divisions, economic inequality, governance failures, and insecurity—are left unaddressed. Persistent dissatisfaction in marginalized regions, coupled with worsening insecurity (e.g., insurgencies, banditry), could lead to stronger separatist movements or a complete weakening of state authority. While Nigeria has weathered such challenges before, continued instability without reforms to decentralize power or address grievances significantly raises the odds of fragmentation in the future. No black led society can ever do well. Never in a trillion years. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:27am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:South Africa has declined majorly particularly economically. Look at what happens when you blacks take over things. We run it into the ground. I’m not portraying India as more than it is. I’m just offended that you’re comparing it to the monkey like black societies. Latin America and Asia are seeing tremendous growth. The carribean and Africa not so much. There is actually no successful black nation out there. They are all poor and violent. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:28am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:"No black led society can ever do well. Never in a trillion years". Is that also one of your stats.? You mentioned South Asian countries, take away Singapore, no South Asian countries is doing better than Barbados economically; you could say their economy mainly comes from tourism, but it doesn't negate the fact that they're doing better than all South Asian Nations bar Singapore... In fact, many Carribean Nations are doing better economically than South Asian Nations; fine, like i said before, tourism, but this is about who's doing better right |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:31am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:The fact Brazil is not Scandinavian level doesn’t mean it’s doing badly. Latin American nations are far more prosperous than black ones. The Carribean which is black is the most violent, impoverished and backward part of the western hemisphere. Chile and Uruguay are pretty darn close to being a developed country. Your comparisons make no sense. You can’t just use one stat to see how well a country is doing. The point is Latin America and Asia is doing far better than any monkey nation you want to tell me. Brazil’s strengths lie in its economic resilience, natural resources, and improvements in social indicators. Here are some key strengths: Economic Strengths: 1. Resilient GDP Growth: • Brazil’s GDP grew by 0.9% in Q3 2024, reflecting strong agricultural output and domestic consumption. This highlights the country’s ability to navigate global economic uncertainties. 2. Diversified Economy: • Brazil boasts one of the most diversified economies in Latin America, with strong sectors in agriculture, mining, manufacturing, and services. 3. Natural Resource Wealth: • Brazil is a global leader in commodities, such as soybeans, iron ore, and oil. This resource wealth ensures consistent trade surpluses and foreign exchange inflows. 4. Declining Unemployment: • Unemployment has dropped to a historic low of 6.4%, signaling recovery in the labor market and increased economic participation. Social Strengths: 1. Social Protection Programs: • Programs like Bolsa Família have effectively reduced poverty, with the poverty rate falling from 23.5% in 2022 to 21.8% in 2023. 2. Education Progress: • High schooling rates for children (99.4%) and declining illiteracy rates show sustained investment in education. 3. Large Domestic Market: • With a population exceeding 215 million, Brazil’s large domestic market supports economic growth through consumption. Geopolitical Strengths: 1. Strategic Role in Global Trade: • Brazil is a member of BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa), enhancing its influence in global economic and political affairs. 2. Renewable Energy Leadership: • Brazil is a world leader in renewable energy, particularly hydropower and biofuels, making it more energy-independent and environmentally sustainable. Cultural and Demographic Strengths: 1. Young Workforce: • A predominantly young population offers a strong labor force to support long-term economic growth. 2. Rich Cultural Heritage: • Brazil’s diverse culture and status as a tourist hub contribute significantly to its global appeal and economic opportunities |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:33am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Nonsense 1. Economic Size (GDP) Claim: Caribbean nations like Barbados are doing better economically than South Asian countries (excluding Singapore). Debunk: This claim does not hold when considering GDP size. • Barbados GDP (2024, Nominal): Approximately $5 billion. • South Asian Countries GDP (2024, Nominal): • India: $3.9 trillion • Bangladesh: $500 billion • Pakistan: $300 billion • Sri Lanka: $80 billion • Even smaller South Asian countries like Bhutan ($3 billion) or Maldives ($7 billion) have economies comparable to or larger than Barbados in nominal terms. India alone outstrips all Caribbean nations combined by a huge margin. Conclusion: On the basis of total GDP, South Asian nations are far ahead of Caribbean nations like Barbados. 2. Per Capita Income Claim: Barbados outperforms South Asian countries in per capita income. Debunk: This is partially true but requires context. • Barbados GDP per capita (2024): ~$17,000 (PPP: ~$25,000). • South Asian GDP per capita (2024): • India: ~$2,850 (PPP: ~$10,000) • Bangladesh: ~$3,000 (PPP: ~$8,200) • Sri Lanka: ~$3,600 (PPP: ~$14,000) • Maldives: ~$14,000 (PPP: ~$26,000). • While Barbados has higher per capita income compared to most South Asian nations, exceptions like the Maldives (also tourism-driven) and Sri Lanka (PPP basis) show comparable or better economic outcomes in specific measures. Conclusion: Barbados outperforms on per capita income compared to larger South Asian nations, but the Maldives is at a similar level and higher in PPP terms. 3. Economic Structure and Dependence on Tourism Claim: Caribbean nations are doing better economically because of tourism, but it doesn’t negate their performance. Debunk: While tourism supports GDP in both regions, South Asia’s economies are more diversified and resilient. • Barbados Tourism Dependency: Contributes over 30% of GDP and employs ~40% of the workforce. • South Asian Tourism Dependency: • Maldives: ~60% of GDP (heavily tourism-dependent, comparable to Barbados). • India: ~7% of GDP, demonstrating much more diversified sectors including IT, manufacturing, and agriculture. South Asia also sustains large domestic markets that buffer external shocks like global travel restrictions (e.g., during COVID-19). Caribbean nations, on the other hand, suffered severe economic contractions when tourism dried up. Conclusion: Barbados’s economic reliance on tourism makes it less resilient compared to more diversified South Asian economies like India or Bangladesh. 4. Poverty and Income Inequality Claim: Caribbean nations are “better off” economically than South Asian nations. Debunk: Metrics like poverty rates and inequality suggest a more nuanced view. • Barbados Poverty Rate: ~15% (2024 estimate). • South Asia Poverty Rates: • India: ~16% (steadily declining due to rapid economic growth). • Bangladesh: ~20% (also improving). • Maldives: <5% (better than Barbados). Inequality (Gini coefficient) in Barbados is also significant (~0.35), showing disparities similar to India (0.35) or Bangladesh (0.32). Conclusion: Caribbean nations like Barbados are not universally “better off,” especially when comparing poverty and inequality metrics. 5. Economic Growth and Development Potential Claim: Caribbean nations are ahead of South Asia economically. Debunk: South Asian economies are growing much faster and have greater potential. • 2024 Growth Rates: • India: ~6.5% (one of the fastest-growing major economies globally). • Bangladesh: ~5.6%. • Barbados: ~2.5%. • Development Potential: South Asia’s young populations and industrialization efforts position the region for sustained growth, while Caribbean nations face challenges like small market size, limited diversification, and climate risks. Conclusion: South Asian nations have far greater growth momentum and development potential than Caribbean nations. 6. International Influence and Strategic Importance Claim: Caribbean nations are “doing better” overall. Debunk: South Asia’s geopolitical and economic influence far outweighs that of the Caribbean. • India: A global power with significant influence in technology, pharmaceuticals, and geopolitics. • Bangladesh: A rising manufacturing hub (garments, textiles). • Caribbean Nations: Primarily reliant on tourism, with limited global influence or diversified exports. Conclusion: South Asian nations have more global impact and economic significance than Caribbean nations like Barbados. Most of the carribean is impoverished. The ones that aren’t are that way because of the British. Many of islands are still under western countries 😂 Go back to arguing about black Americans😂 this is not being an uncle tom either. Black societies are jnhrenelt more violent, corrupt, poorer and less developed than other parts of the world. Your such a dumbass to think it’s only the west, east Asia and the Middle East that are doing well😂 |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:34am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Another stupid take, Can you please stop with that violent rhetoric, just because you grew up in Nigeria doesn't mean that's the Rhetorics for many other Nations... Ghana's murder rate is 1.8, Bissau is 1.1, and there are so many others, but i guess you will inaccurate stats. again right?... Anyway, just because ours is at 21 doesn't mean all Black Nations are violent you numbskull. By the way, i've been noticing how you are deviating of my other comments, huh🤔. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:41am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:you’re the one deviating. This is about black Americans. You now want try and cook up the myth of black success😂😂. African countries are the most corrupt on earth. Look at the CPI index. You think I’m going to trust their bogus, heavily underreported crime stats. The countries with the highest crime tend to have blacks or a high population of them. Countries with the highest homicide rates and look at the black correlation 1. El Salvador: Predominantly Mestizo (mixed Indigenous and European descent); Black population is minimal. 2. Honduras: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Garifuna) population is approximately 2%. 3. Venezuela: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is estimated at 3-4%. 4. Jamaica: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 5. South Africa: About 80% of the population is Black African. 6. Brazil: Approximately 7.6% identify as Black, with 43% identifying as mixed race (Pardo), which includes Afro-Brazilian heritage. 7. Trinidad and Tobago: Approximately 35% of the population is of African descent. 8. Belize: About 21% of the population is of African (Creole) descent. 9. Guatemala: Predominantly Mestizo and Indigenous; Black population is minimal. 10. Mexico: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Afro-Mexican) population is approximately 2%. 11. Colombia: Approximately 10.6% identify as Black, with an additional 3.4% identifying as Afro-Colombian. 12. Nigeria: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 13. Democratic Republic of the Congo: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 14. Central African Republic: Over 90% of the population is Black African. 15. Papua New Guinea: Predominantly Melanesian; Black population is minimal. 16. Afghanistan: Predominantly Pashtun, Tajik, and Hazara; Black population is negligible. 17. Haiti: Approximately 95% of the population is of African descent. 18. Sudan: Approximately 70% of the population is Black African. 19. Somalia: Over 85% of the population is of Somali ethnicity, which is generally classified as Black African. 20. Lesotho: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Sotho). 21. Botswana: Over 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Tswana). 22. Zimbabwe: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Shona and Ndebele). 23. Mali: Over 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Mande groups). 24. Ivory Coast (Côte d’Ivoire): Approximately 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Akan and other groups). 25. Chad: Approximately 85% of the population is Black African (primarily Sara and other groups). 26. Uganda: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Baganda and other groups). 27. Kenya: Approximately 97% of the population is Black African (primarily Kikuyu and other groups). 28. Tanzania: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Sukuma and other groups). 29. Mozambique: Approximately 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Makhuwa and other groups). 30. Zambia: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Bemba and other groups) |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:43am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Now i see you're a true Nigerian, the last statement comfirmed it for me... Many Nigerians will pick world power anyday even if the economy is askewed by population. No wonder you've been delusionally praising India since the very get go, even having the guts to compare them to the UK. Well, i'm not that guy, i don't care about global view, or Super powers; i care about the economic impact of the Citizens in the country i'm from, i care about the standard of living, the health care system, and others, because that is what actually matters in a country... Not who's outwardly the most powerful, now i see why you use absolute GDP all the time. To you, India may very well be doing better than Estonia, to me, Estonia is doing way better than India... And to any logical person, they'd pick Estonia, but i understand the Nigerian power dynamic, so i understand your mentality now. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:53am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Is it that hard for you to accept that you’re wrong? I literally just debunked your claim the carribean is going well. You try to compare an Asian society to a black one and you failed. The best black societies out there would be poor in Latin America and Asia. And there are no best black societies out there as they always tend to fail. When comparing South Asia and the Caribbean in terms of economic, technological, and general growth, it’s clear that South Asia is growing faster overall. Here’s a detailed breakdown: Economic Growth South Asia is one of the fastest-growing regions in the world. For example, India, the largest economy in the region, is expected to grow by 6.5%-7% in 2024, driven by robust domestic consumption, a thriving IT and services sector, and growing manufacturing capabilities. Bangladesh, another standout performer, is maintaining steady growth of around 5.6%-6%, fueled by its dominant role in global textile exports. While countries like Pakistan and Sri Lanka face economic challenges, the overall region consistently outpaces global growth averages. In contrast, Caribbean economies are growing more modestly. Countries like Barbados and Jamaica are heavily reliant on tourism, and while they are recovering from the impact of COVID-19, their growth rates are limited—hovering around 2%-3% annually. The Dominican Republic is the region’s standout, with growth around 4.5%-5%, but even this is slower than South Asia’s key players. Additionally, the Caribbean’s small market sizes and vulnerability to natural disasters restrict their economic potential. Verdict: South Asia’s economic growth is significantly faster and more diverse than that of the Caribbean, which relies heavily on tourism and lacks industrial depth. Technological Growth South Asia, particularly India, has emerged as a global technology leader. India’s IT and tech sector contributes about 8% of its GDP, making it a hub for software development, AI, fintech, and digital innovation. Government initiatives like Digital India have brought internet access to over 700 million people, fueling e-commerce, online education, and startup growth. India is also the third-largest startup ecosystem in the world, with companies spanning industries like fintech, health tech, and clean energy. Bangladesh is also leveraging technology to enhance its manufacturing efficiency, particularly in textiles, and is embracing digital financial services. The Caribbean, on the other hand, has seen slower technological progress. While there are efforts to modernize economies—such as Jamaica’s push for digital finance and tech-based entrepreneurship—these are still in the early stages. The region lacks the scale, resources, and global tech presence of South Asia. Its reliance on tourism also limits the potential for high-tech industries to flourish. Verdict: South Asia is advancing rapidly in the tech sector, with a global impact, while the Caribbean lags behind in technological growth. General Growth and Development South Asia’s growth is driven by its large, young population of over 1.9 billion people, which provides a strong labor force and consumer market. Countries like India are investing heavily in infrastructure, including highways, railways, and renewable energy. This has created a foundation for sustained growth and development. Additionally, South Asia has made remarkable progress in reducing poverty—India and Bangladesh, in particular, have significantly lowered their poverty rates over the last two decades. In the Caribbean, growth is constrained by small populations (the entire region has a combined population of just over 45 million) and limited industrial capacity. Many Caribbean nations are heavily indebted, and their economies are vulnerable to climate change impacts like hurricanes and rising sea levels. While countries like the Dominican Republic and Trinidad and Tobago are diversifying through sectors like natural resources, most of the region remains highly dependent on tourism and remittances. Verdict: South Asia’s larger population, infrastructure investments, and poverty reduction efforts far outpace the Caribbean’s slower, tourism-reliant development trajectory. Overall Conclusion South Asia is unequivocally growing faster than the Caribbean. Its economies are larger, more diversified, and expanding at a higher rate. Technologically, South Asia has become a global leader, particularly through India’s advancements in IT and innovation. In contrast, the Caribbean’s reliance on tourism, small market size, and vulnerability to external shocks have limited its growth potential. While both regions have their unique strengths, South Asia’s scale, pace of development, and global impact leave the Caribbean far behind in terms of economic, technological, and general growth. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 4:55am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Oh shut the f*ck up, you've been deviating... I totally schooled you on the Indian rhetorics you've been talking about since, you are actively trying to not even mention them anymore, my comments on that is still holding... You couldn't even read a stat. right you idiot, the person you sent it to had to be the one that fixed it for you... Anyway, those comments are still holding. So the Top Eleven countries outside of Jamaica are not even majorly Black Countries, you had to extend it all the way to 30 to make a point😂😂😂😂... In the Top 10 most violent countries, only 2 is majorly a Black Nation, well, i guess the other groups may be quite violent too😂😂😂. Bro, Latin America is damn violent, Goddamn, but to you "African Nations are the most violent"😂😂😂... Nobody is deflecting you fool, i just can't stop laughing at you not even being able to stand by your biased well. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 4:56am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:development is objective, not subjective, and that’s a critical point. Development isn’t about personal opinions or preferences; it’s about measurable progress in areas like healthcare, education, economic output, infrastructure, and standard of living. Let’s build on your point here. Development is Measurable If we want to compare countries objectively, we look at data: • Standard of Living: GDP per capita, access to healthcare, life expectancy, and quality of education. • Economic Impact: Poverty rates, job creation, and income distribution. • Human Development: Metrics like the Human Development Index (HDI), literacy rates, and access to essential services. • Sustainability and Infrastructure: Renewable energy use, public services, and urban planning 1. “Nigerians will pick world power any day, even if the economy is askewed by population.” Not true for everyone, and certainly not for me. The focus isn’t on “world power” for the sake of it—it’s about overall development. Large populations come with challenges, yes, but they also create opportunities for economies to scale, innovate, and diversify. The key isn’t dismissing large countries like India or Nigeria just because of population, but understanding how they leverage that size. Power dynamics aside, the scale of development impacts more people, which matters on a global level. 2. “I care about standard of living, not absolute GDP.” Totally valid—and standard of living is incredibly important. Countries like Estonia, with higher GDP per capita, healthcare access, and quality of life indicators, clearly outperform India on those fronts. No argument there. But development isn’t static—it’s dynamic. India’s trajectory matters because it’s actively pulling millions out of poverty, improving infrastructure, and extending healthcare to a massive population. Estonia, while already ahead in quality of life, doesn’t face the same developmental challenges, so its progress isn’t comparable in scale. 3. “To any logical person, Estonia is doing way better than India.” On living standards, yes—Estonia excels. But that doesn’t negate India’s strides. Development isn’t only about where you are now, but where you’re heading. Estonia is stable and developed, but its growth potential is relatively limited due to its size. India, while far from perfect, is growing rapidly, transforming industries, and building the foundations of long-term prosperity. So, a logical person can acknowledge both Estonia’s current strength and India’s transformative progress. 4. “You use absolute GDP all the time.” Sure, because absolute GDP reflects economic size and potential. But I also factor in GDP per capita, healthcare, and quality of life when the context demands it. For smaller nations like Estonia, GDP per capita matters more because it shows how resources are distributed among fewer people. For large countries like India, absolute GDP reflects the sheer scale of change affecting billions. Both measures are useful—it’s about understanding context, not dismissing one for the other |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:00am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Yeah I already debunked your point on the Indian sides I told you that India’s potential is far greater than Nigeria. Read again. I said the most violent countries in the world are either black or have significant black populations. El Salvador: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is minimal. 2. Jamaica: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 3. Honduras: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Garifuna) population is about 2%. 4. Venezuela: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is estimated at 3-4%. 5. Belize: About 21% of the population is of African (Creole) descent. 6. South Africa: Approximately 80% of the population is Black African. 7. Lesotho: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Basotho). 8. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: Predominantly of African descent. 9. Saint Kitts and Nevis: Predominantly of African descent. 10. Nigeria: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 11. Trinidad and Tobago: Approximately 35% of the population is of African descent. 12. Colombia: Approximately 10.6% identify as Black, with an additional 3.4% identifying as Afro-Colombian. 13. Brazil: Approximately 7.6% identify as Black, with 43% identifying as mixed race (Pardo), which includes Afro-Brazilian heritage. 14. Guatemala: Predominantly Mestizo and Indigenous; Black population is minimal. 15. Mexico: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Afro-Mexican) population is approximately 2%. 16. Dominican Republic: Predominantly mixed race; Black population is significant but not precisely quantified. 17. Haiti: Approximately 95% of the population is of African descent. 18. Bahamas: Approximately 90% of the population is of African descent. 19. Saint Lucia: Predominantly of African descent. 20. Barbados: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 21. Grenada: Predominantly of African descent. 22. Guyana: Approximately 30% of the population is of African descent. 23. Suriname: Approximately 37% of the population is of African descent. 24. Angola: Over 98% of the population is Black African. 25. Democratic Republic of the Congo: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 26. Central African Republic: Over 90% of the population is Black African. 27. Papua New Guinea: Predominantly Melanesian; Black population is minimal. 28. Afghanistan: Predominantly Pashtun, Tajik, and Hazara; Black population is negligible. 29. Sudan: Approximately 70% of the population is Black African. 30. Somalia: Over 85% of the population is of Somali ethnicity, generally classified as Black African. I list the top 30 and yet you still cherrypick? You’re a fool😂 Latin America and the carribean are grouped together. The more black parts of Latin America like the carribean, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina tend to be more dangerous than the less black parts like Chile, Urguay etc. accept it that blacks are more violent. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:05am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:I listed 30 because it’s more representative. Those countries are either black or have significant black populations. At this point, you’re denying reality. Wow you didn’t do what I think you just did. How can blacks criticise others for scamming? Indians don’t commit as much crime as Africans, Carribeans or these black Americans themselves you defend This is why you need objective data to create an argument. Your entire response is cherrypicked with all those videos you’ve selected. Your a joke 😂 The thing you’ve failed to actually understand what I was saying when comapring the UK to India. It’s not that India is as developed as the UK. It’s nowhere. But the economic potential of the country is definitely comparable to the UK. 1. Study Visa Fraud and Illegal Migration • Claim: Indians engage in visa fraud and illegal migration (e.g., UK, Canada) at a scale that reflects desperation and systemic issues. • Debunk: Yes, there’s undeniable fraud and illegal migration, but this doesn’t mean India as a whole is unstable or falling apart. • Perspective: India has over 1.4 billion people—even if a fraction engage in fraud or illegal migration, it looks massive compared to smaller countries. But that’s not the majority. Most Indian migrants are legal, skilled professionals or students contributing to economies like the UK, US, and Canada. • Global Migration Trends: Illegal migration isn’t unique to India. Nigerians, Mexicans, and even some Eastern Europeans engage in similar activities for better opportunities. Fraud exists everywhere, but it doesn’t define a country. 2. “Who flees en masse from a stable country?” • Claim: Mass migration from India shows the country is unstable or not working. • Debunk: People migrate not just because a country is unstable, but because better opportunities exist elsewhere. • India’s Case: Indians migrate for economic mobility—higher wages, better jobs, or education. Leaving doesn’t mean the country is a disaster; it reflects a desire for global opportunities. • Comparison: People from stable countries like the UK, Canada, or Germany also migrate, but not as visibly because they don’t face the same scale of challenges or barriers. For a country with India’s size, migration trends are amplified. 3. “Indians are giving up citizenship en masse.” • Claim: Millions of Indians are desperate to renounce citizenship, proving systemic failure. • Debunk: While it’s true many Indians give up citizenship, it’s not about “desperation.” • Global Migration for Citizenship: Indians often acquire foreign citizenship after years abroad (e.g., in the US, Canada, or Australia). These people are typically skilled professionals, not fleeing instability but upgrading their status for convenience (e.g., easier travel, better tax systems). • India’s Restrictions: India doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Many Indians who renounce it would keep both if allowed. Renouncing citizenship doesn’t automatically mean discontent with India. 4. Comparing India to the UK • Claim: India can’t be compared to the UK because UK citizens wouldn’t migrate illegally to India. • Debunk: This is an apples-to-oranges comparison. The UK is a wealthy, developed country. India is a developing economy—naturally, migration flows favor wealthier destinations. • India’s Progress: Comparing India’s current state to the UK ignores India’s trajectory. India’s economy is growing rapidly, lifting millions out of poverty, and it’s becoming a global powerhouse in industries like IT, pharmaceuticals, and manufacturing. This is why I said to you potential. India has economic and geopolitical potential that’s way pass the UK and on par with US and China. The same can’t be said for Zoogeria at all. • Legacy Issues: India inherited systemic problems like poverty, inequality, and overpopulation, but it’s progressing faster than many other countries at a similar stage of development. 5. “India is more similar to Nigeria.” • Claim: India is more like Nigeria than the UK due to systemic issues, migration patterns, and desperation. • Debunk: India and Nigeria share some challenges, like ethnic divides and poverty, but they’re not on the same level. • Economic Differences: India’s economy is diversified and globally integrated, while Nigeria relies heavily on oil exports. India is actively reducing poverty and building infrastructure, whereas Nigeria faces chronic corruption and stagnation. • Global Role: India is seen as a global power with growing influence, while Nigeria is still struggling to stabilize internally. 6. Systemic Issues vs. Statistics • Claim: Stats oversimplify things and ignore systemic issues that define human experiences. • Debunk: Stats aren’t perfect, but they give clear, measurable insights into trends. • Systemic issues absolutely matter, but they don’t negate India’s progress. Migration patterns, GDP growth, and global influence show a country that’s far from perfect but clearly moving forward. • Saying “India is a shithole” ignores the millions benefiting from its development, even while systemic issues persist You’ve yet to respond to an Indian response like that either. I never said India was a utopia |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:09am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:The problem is that your arguments are centred on feelings and emotions. They have no meaning. It’s anecdotal garbage. Personal experiences are a terrible way of judging economic development. With your Estonia and India example? Estonia is more developed and objectively better to live in right now for most people. It has a high standard of living, excellent digital infrastructure, universal healthcare, and low corruption. Life is stable, and services like education and public safety are top-tier. India, on the other hand, has more potential due to its massive population, fast-growing economy, and booming tech sector. However, it’s still grappling with issues like poverty, inequality, and strained infrastructure, which makes daily life challenging for many. In short: Estonia wins on quality of life today, but India holds the edge in future potential if its growth is managed well. It depends on what you prioritize—comfort and stability, or dynamic opportunities with challenges. The same with the UK and India. I never actually said India was a better place to live but that its economic potential shouldn’t be ignored. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:12am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Did you just say Argentina is among the most Black parts?, Jesus Christ... And it's not cherrypicking, stop deviating; you brought out a list, your list clearly shows that in the Top 10 Nations you called, only 2 are majorly made up of Black people, some there doesn't even pass 2-3%; so which means violent people in those countries are majorly not Black, for example El Salvador which i know have a very miniscule Black population 😂😂😂. Argentina too barely has any, so many of the Top 10 countries you called have a miniscule to a minority Black population, and yet, "All African Nations are the violent"; you already contradicted yourself with that statement; are you stupid or outwardly close your eyes to Ghana, Bissau, Benin, do you know how many countries there are in Africa?. "Yeah I already debunked your point on the Indian sides I told you that India’s potential is far greater than Nigeria" And once again, i never compared both, you constantly act like this is what i'm doing... Both countries have a lot of systemic similarties, i even gave you a video on this, but biases will always take precedence with you... India is a shithole, i've debunked your India is amazing rhetoric countless times. This India topic came due to your comparison with them and the UK, which is just outright funny, please don't do that again; one region is a high societal region, and the other is a region whose Citizens will illegally desperately do anything to go to the first region. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:26am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Oh my God, were you born in Nigeria?, because the fact that you can't see the similarities between everything youcre currently talking about India, and what was said about Nigeria is really funny... And no, i don't use emotions, i use variables, with stats. being part of those variables. You talk about the future, when the present speaks different on how the issues of the country is going; yea, there are Economic growths and future projections, Nigeria was once touted with one too. That is why stats. will always be askewed without adding other variables. Will India be a future high societal Nation the likes of UK, who knows, but humans are too complex to be grouped by only analytical projections... Projections have failed countless times especially when talking about countries, you should know, your country is one; Venezuela was once one of the richest Latino Nations, then Chavez came, and the issues with the Two political parties started, even though projections had originally touted Venezuela to be relatively stable under Chavez... Humans are more complex than projections, especially given Countries like India were deep rooted systemic issues are still rife, and that's not even including the corruption. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:36am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:‘Did you just say Argentina is among the most Black parts?, Jesus Christ... And it's not cherrypicking, stop deviating; you brought out a list, your list clearly shows that in the Top 10 Nations you called, only 2 are majorly made up of Black people, some there doesn't even pass 2-3%; so which means violent people in those countries are majorly not Black, for example El Salvador which i know have a very miniscule Black population 😂😂😂’ That is Cherrypixking. Why are you only focusing 10 people? There’s a reason I selected 30. That was at eight at random. Of those 30 countries on earth. Most of them were black or had significant black populations. ‘Argentina too barely has any, so many of the Top 10 countries you called have a miniscule to a minority Black population, and yet, "All African Nations are the violent"; you already contradicted yourself with that statement; are you stupid or outwardly close your eyes to Ghana, Bissau, Benin, do you know how many countries there are in Africa?’ So you can’t see Somalia, DRC etc on the list? Why are you just focusing on the top 10? I picked the top 30. African countries don’t even report that crime statistics accurately. I highly doubt that more than 5% of crime that are actually reported. True crime stats would have African countries blowing past all these ones. On top of the fact Africa, the carribean and the Middle East are the most violent, unstable parts of the world. ‘And once again, i never compared both, you constantly act like this is what i'm doing... Both countries have a lot of systemic similarties, i even gave you a video on this, but biases will always take precedence with you... India is a shithole, i've debunked your India is amazing rhetoric countless times. This India topic came due to your comparison with them and the UK, which is just outright funny, please don't do that again; one region is a high societal region, and the other is a region whose Citizens will illegally desperately do anything to go to the first region’ To be honest, we’ve both misunderstood as to what either side has been getting with the Indian argument. I’ve never actually said India was better to live but that’s its potential is far greater than Nigeria or the UK. That’s why I said you can’t compare Nigeria and India. Both are like UK’s children but one is the prodigal child and the other one is the one with severe learning difficulties. The other one is going to do much better. Don’t you understand? blacks can never build anything meaningful. It’s a failed race. But the same can’t be said for Asians and Latinos. Though In the July-September quarter of 2024, India’s GDP grew by 5.4% year-on-year, marking the slowest pace in nearly two years and falling short of the anticipated 6.5% growth. In comparison, Nigeria’s economy has shown a gradual improvement. The country’s GDP grew by 3.46% year-on-year in the third quarter of 2024, up from 2.54% in the same period the previous year. Even on its worse days. India is doing almost 2x Nigeria’s growth rate. Just accept it man, accept it that the Asians are better. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:45am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:"Illegal Migration: Yes, some migrate illegally, but it’s a small fraction. Nigerians, on the other hand, often migrate out of necessity, not opportunity." 5000 a month from just one border point is a small fraction?, Wow, Bro, stop being delusional... More Indians cross through the Mexican border than the Canadian border, Indians illegally migrate en masse to other countries too, and yet, you think all these combined is a small fraction, we've not even talked about the Study fraud... All migrants migrate for better opportunity, the path of migration speaks on the desperation on how a migrant needs that opportunity, and the mass illegal migration is not doing any favours to your argument dude. By the way, lets talk about these projections you were talking about India... Analyst who made the projections had to quickly reduce their reduced their analytical expectations after the Indian Economic growth dropped to 5%, which means the older projections at 7% automatically became wrong... Simple, what i've been trying to explain since, humans are way more complex than analytical projections. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:46am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:‘Oh my God, were you born in Nigeria?, because the fact that you can't see the similarities between everything youcre currently talking about India, and what was said about Nigeria is really funny... And no, i don't use emotions, i use variables, with stats. being part of those variables. You talk about the future, when the present speaks different on how the issues of the country is going; yea, there are Economic growths and future projections, Nigeria was once touted with one too. That is why stats. will always be askewed without adding other variables’ No thankfully not. The thing is you do use emotions. You just keep saying India is bad, India is bad where else they are projected to be among the fastest growing economies in the G20. What a joke. Nothing you’re saying has any meaning. What variables are you talking about? Do you really think Nigeria could ever reached its projections?😂 Sure these are just projections that are assume that all variables remain the same and they seldom never do but regardless there is actually no reason to think that India won’t end up in a similar situation as the US and China. Nigeria has never had India’s potential. I get it’s hard pill to swallow but it’s the truth. ‘Will India be a future high societal Nation the likes of UK, who knows, but humans are too complex to be grouped by only analytical projections... Projections have failed countless times especially when talking about countries, you should know, your country is one; Venezuela was once one of the richest Latino Nations, then Chavez came, and the issues with the Two political parties started, even though projections had originally touted Venezuela to be relatively stable under Chavez... Humans are more complex than projections, especially given Countries like India were deep rooted systemic issues are still rife, and that's not even including the corruption’ Projections can and do fail. I Will agree with that but even if they aren’t precisely true with india. That doesn’t change the fact that this country will end up being a big player in the future. India will end up like Philippines, Vietnam, China and Mexico in a couple decades. There is no alternative universe or reality where Nigeria or any black dominated succeed ever succeeds at anything but destruction. Never. It’s impossible. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 5:49am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:1. “Indians illegally migrate en masse, and it’s not a small fraction.” Yes, some Indians migrate illegally, just like people from many other countries. But claiming it’s an overwhelming “mass” ignores context. India has a population of over 1.4 billion—5,000 illegal migrants a month is statistically a tiny fraction of that. For comparison, millions of Indians migrate legally every year through skilled worker visas, education programs, and business opportunities. Illegal migration is a problem, sure, but framing it as a defining trait of Indian migration is misleading. Most migration—whether from India, Nigeria, or anywhere else—is driven by economic opportunity, and not every route reflects desperation. People take paths based on accessibility, cost, and risk. 2. “All migrants migrate for better opportunity, and the path shows desperation.” Yes, migrants seek better opportunities, but the path taken doesn’t always equal desperation. For many, it’s about practicality—how accessible a country is, visa policies, and geography. For example: • Indians crossing via the Mexican border often do so because U.S. work visas are limited, and legal paths are overbooked. It doesn’t mean every migrant is destitute or desperate—many are skilled workers navigating restrictive systems. The narrative of desperation fits some migrants, but not all. And mass illegal migration isn’t unique to India—it’s a global challenge tied to restrictive immigration laws, not just desperation. 3. “Analysts reduced growth projections after India’s drop to 5%.” True, but this doesn’t discredit India’s long-term growth trajectory. Short-term slowdowns are normal for any economy, especially with external shocks like inflation or global economic pressures. Projections adjust for realities, but India still has one of the fastest-growing major economies globally, expected to rebound to 6%-7% growth soon. Also, projections are based on structural factors, not just one year’s growth. India’s demographics, industrial expansion, and tech sector are long-term strengths. Analysts didn’t “throw out” India’s potential; they adjusted expectations temporarily, which is how projections work. 4. “Humans are more complex than analytical projections.” Absolutely—they are! Projections are tools, not gospel. But complexity doesn’t mean we dismiss trends or forecasts entirely. When the data consistently points to India’s rising economic, technological, and geopolitical influence, it’s worth taking seriously. You have to look at the data here. Short-term hiccups like growth dips don’t erase long-term progress—just like Nigeria’s struggles don’t define its future potential. Analytical tools don’t capture every nuance, but they help us understand broad trajectories Illegal migration exists everywhere, and paths don’t always mean desperation—often it’s about navigating broken systems. India’s growth projections adjust for short-term realities, but the country’s long-term potential remains strong. Yes, humans are complex, but dismissing trends entirely because of short-term fluctuations misses the bigger picture. It’s about understanding the nuances, not oversimplifying. Nigeria and any African/black nation is infinitely more likely to fail than India. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:53am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Dude said Philippines, a country were their Vice President just tried to wack their President... And dude said Vietnam. "There is no alternative universe or reality where Nigeria or any black dominated succeed ever succeeds at anything but destruction. Never. It’s impossible." Again, stupidity, lets even leave the Carribean Nations because i'm tired of your biases, lets come to Africa... A good example, Rwanda; 7.6 economic growth in 2023, 7.2 growth in 2024, 6.6 currently, actually currently higher than India... But i guess all Black Nations are doomed to fail, that statement is so untrue, because Nations right now are the embodiment of the being untrue... Which is why i said you have serious biases, even maybe an "Uncle Tom" persuasion; because i've been noticing your rhetorics since, other groups, "systemic issues and it will be better" rhetoric, Black groups "Completely damned". |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:56am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:Bro really said illegal migration paths don't mean desperation... The very essence of Illegal migration is desperation, what are you talking about.... And no, illegal migration doesn't exist everywhere, show me an Australian, English, Belgian, and so many other other developed countries whose citizens are trying to illegally migrate... You statement is so not true, why are seriously this biased?. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 6:02am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:You’re consistent I’ll give you that. Yes illegal imitation exists everywhere. Alright, let’s take this on point by point and clear up the misunderstanding. 1. “Illegal migration paths don’t mean desperation.” Not all illegal migration is rooted in desperation. Desperation is one reason, but not the only one. Many people migrate illegally because legal routes are blocked, expensive, or take too long—even if they aren’t fleeing life-or-death situations. Take Indians crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, for example: many are middle-class, educated, and looking for better opportunities but can’t get visas because of how restrictive the system is. That’s frustration with bureaucracy, not pure desperation. But yes, desperation is often a factor for others, like refugees fleeing war or extreme poverty. My point is simply that illegal migration isn’t always one-dimensional. It varies by person and circumstance. A professional engineer stuck in a visa backlog isn’t in the same position as someone fleeing famine—but both may cross illegally. 2. “Illegal migration doesn’t exist everywhere.” You’re right that illegal migration is less common from some developed countries because their citizens usually have better opportunities at home. But it still exists—it’s just rarer and often for unique reasons. For example: • Australians overstaying visas in the U.S. or Europe. • Americans sneaking into Canada during Prohibition to escape legal trouble or avoid taxes. • Irish workers migrating illegally to England during hard economic times in the past. Illegal migration isn’t exclusive to developing countries; it happens anywhere people face barriers to moving legally. It’s just that people from wealthier nations have fewer reasons to migrate illegally because they already enjoy relative stability. 3. “Why are you biased?” It’s not about bias—it’s about nuance. Illegal migration happens for different reasons across the world. Yes, some cases are fueled by desperation, but not all. And while it’s more common from developing nations, that doesn’t mean illegal migration is an exclusive phenomenon to them. Wealthier countries face different pressures, like visa overstays, which technically counts as illegal migration too. It exists everywhere. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 6:03am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:There are 750 thousand illegal immigrants in the U.S, the third highest of an group, compared to a general population of 5.1 Million Indians... That's about 1 in 6, this not counting the ones caught. Yea, just give up this argument, there's no way you'd tell me that they're not living for desperation when they themselves say that... What kind of biased idiot are you?. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 6:07am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Sladem05:"Not all illegal migration is rooted in desperation. Desperation is one reason, but not the only one. Many people migrate illegally because legal routes are blocked, expensive, or take too long—even if they aren’t fleeing life-or-death situations. Take Indians crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, for example: many are middle-class, educated, and looking for better opportunities but can’t get visas because of how restrictive the system is. That’s frustration with bureaucracy, not pure desperation". This is actually funny now, so if the legal routes are blocked, and you decide to pass through Jungles to get to your destination you want to go to, what do you call that?, Content at their country?. "Take Indians crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, for example: many are middle-class, educated, and looking for better opportunities but can’t get visas because of how restrictive the system is". You are literally explaining desperation, how the f*ck can't you see that... If you can't get visas to go to another country, and you decide to go through the hassle of illegally migrating and hiding from the authorities when you do get there, you're f*cking desperate... Did the individual who thought you the meaning of desperation not teach you well?... You literally can't see your bias and it's getting infuriating, you want to askew the rhetorics as much as possible for other groups, but when it gets to the Black group, it's straight head-on. |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 6:14am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:Philippines: • Economic Growth: Despite challenges like typhoons, the Philippines’ GDP grew by 5.2% year-on-year in Q3 2024. The World Bank projects a 5.9% growth for 2024, with expectations to accelerate to 6.1% in 2025.  • Technological Advancement: The IT-BPM sector is thriving, with revenues hitting $38 billion in 2024 and employment reaching 1.82 million. The industry is focusing on upskilling in AI, IT support, cybersecurity, and data analytics to sustain growth.  Vietnam: • Economic Growth: Vietnam’s GDP surged by 7.4% in Q3 2024, marking the highest growth in two years, driven by robust exports and industrial production.  • Technological Advancement: The country is expanding its chip packaging and testing capacities, attracting significant investments from companies like Hana Micron and Amkor Technology. Vietnam aims to increase its global ATP capacity from 1% in 2022 to 9% by 2032. What a terrible way of assesing how well a country is doing. Is the US doing badly now because trump got shot? Bad stuff happens everywhere. You don’t even know how to argue when it comes to comparing counties. African nations having higher GDP growths is because they are less developed than India. A less developed economically will obviously grow faster. But economically, India far surpasses Africa. India’s GDP is $3.7 trillion vs Africa’s 3.1 trillion. Alright, let’s break this down quickly and clearly. 1. “Rwanda’s growth rates are higher than India’s.” True, Rwanda’s growth rates (7.6% in 2023, 7.2% in 2024, 6.6% currently) are impressive. But let’s talk scale. Rwanda’s entire GDP is just $13 billion, while India’s is $3.7 trillion. India growing at 6%-7% adds hundreds of billions of dollars to its economy, while Rwanda’s 7.6% growth adds maybe $1 billion. High percentages on a small base are great, but they don’t compare to the absolute economic progress India is making. 2. “Rwanda’s progress is comparable to India’s.” Not really. Rwanda has done incredibly well to recover from its tragic history, but its policies are building an Unstable economy. But India is a global economic powerhouse: • India has a massive industrial base, world-class IT sector, and is a leader in global tech and pharma. • India’s exports alone ($400+ billion in 2023) dwarf Rwanda’s entire GDP. Rwanda’s growth is commendable, but it’s operating on a different scale altogether. No African country matches India in terms of: • Economic size: Africa’s largest economy, Nigeria, has a GDP of ~$400 billion—about 1/9th of India’s. • Global influence: India’s role in tech, trade, and geopolitics is far ahead of any African nation. • Population leverage: India’s 1.4 billion people drive a massive domestic market, creating opportunities Africa’s smaller individual markets can’t replicate Rwanda’s growth is real, but it’s like comparing a fast-growing small startup to a massive multinational company. India’s economic progress, sheer scale, and global impact put it in a league no African country is close to. Not even close 😂😂 The Philippines and Vietnam are making serious waves in the global economy, especially in supply chains and manufacturing. Philippines • Economic Progress: The Philippines is seeing steady growth (around 5.9% in 2024) thanks to its booming IT-BPO industry, which earned $38 billion in 2024 alone. It’s one of the world’s top outsourcing hubs, handling everything from customer service to AI development. • Global Impact: It’s a key player in the business process outsourcing (BPO) industry, supporting global corporations with cost-effective services. • Potential: With a young, tech-savvy population, the Philippines has the potential to dominate IT services further and expand into higher-value tech industries. Vietnam • Economic Progress: Vietnam’s growth (7.4% in Q3 2024) is largely driven by its role as a manufacturing powerhouse. It’s become the go-to alternative to China for electronics, textiles, and chip assembly. • Global Impact: Big companies like Apple, Samsung, and Intel are heavily investing in Vietnam as they diversify away from China. Vietnam is rapidly becoming central to the global tech and electronics supply chain. • Potential: Vietnam’s strategic location, growing industrial base, and government focus on infrastructure make it a rising star in global manufacturing. Both countries are critical for the global supply chain: the Philippines powers corporate services, and Vietnam builds the products we use daily. With their youthful populations, strategic policies, and integration into global trade, their potential to grow into economic giants is massive. These aren’t just regional players anymore—they’re shaping the future of the global economy. Stop talking out of your ass. You just don’t want to accept the failed race of blacks |
| Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Sladem05: 6:19am On Dec 14, 2024 |
Derekmiles:1. “If legal routes are blocked and you take the jungle route, it’s desperation.” Not necessarily. Taking an illegal route can also reflect calculated risk, not desperation. Many illegal migrants aren’t fleeing unbearable lives—they’re just seeking better ones, even if it means breaking the law. It’s not the same as being desperate for survival; it’s often about frustration with legal barriers. For instance: • Indians crossing the U.S.-Mexico border are often financially stable, middle-class, and educated. Their life at home isn’t dire—they’re choosing to take risks for a chance at higher wages or a better lifestyle. Calling this desperation waters down what real desperation looks like, like someone fleeing war in Sudan or famine in Somalia. 2. “If you can’t get a visa and migrate illegally, you’re desperate.” I don’t agree. There’s a difference between desperation and determination for a better life. If someone from India or the Philippines feels frustrated by the insanely long visa processes and decides to cross illegally, it doesn’t mean their home situation is unlivable. They might simply see an opportunity to earn more in a foreign country and choose to bypass bureaucracy. If desperation alone were the driving force, why are these same migrants often sending remittances back home, indicating their families are relatively stable? It’s not black-and-white desperation—it’s a practical decision. 3. “You’re biased and go head-on about Black migrants.” This isn’t about bias—it’s about context. Illegal migration is a global issue, and the stories behind it differ depending on the region. African migrants often face more severe conditions like poverty or conflict, so their decisions may seem more life-or-death compared to someone frustrated by legal blocks. That doesn’t mean one story is less valid—it’s just different. If anything, highlighting these nuances ensures we don’t paint every migrant with the same brush. Indians, Nigerians, or Mexicans crossing illegally are motivated by different circumstances, and acknowledging that complexity is the opposite of bias. ultimately Not all illegal migration equals desperation. For many, it’s frustration with bureaucracy or chasing higher earnings, not a last-ditch escape. While desperation is one layer of the story, the bigger picture includes personal ambition, blocked opportunities, and practical decisions—not just survival. Disagree if you want, but illegal migration is a mix of risk-taking and ambition, not just desperation. |
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