You forgot American Indians, worse off than African Americans.

You forgot Voting Rights clouded by Electoral College and Gerrymandering.

You forgot that women thought they secured Abortion Right fifty years ago.

Those are the good old days.

Germans, Japanese and Chinese got respect because they made economic power out of their countries.

African, what have you made out of Nigeria? The richest country in Africa flowing with wara and honey turned into poverty capital of the world by unprecedented inflow of foreign Oil Income.

Can we point a finger to African Americans while the other four point to US.

Sladem05:


I will agree that good ole days is a lie. You can’t apply that to any section of history whether it’s now or when the very first humans were born 300,000 years ago. The world has always sucked.It’s only MAGA and delusional white conservatives that believe in it. Good Ole Days but they forgot about US imperialism, racial segregation,discrimination and so on.

But Blacks weren’t the only ones that had a hard time. Asians, Hispanics and even whites did.

Slavery happened allover the world.

Japanese and Germans were put in concentration camps, Chinese people were banned from entering America. Arab Muslims are still discriminated in the country today but why have none fared as bad as black Americans have?

Give up this victim mentality.

googi:
You forgot American Indians, worse off than African Americans.

You forgot Voting Rights clouded by Electoral College and Gerrymandering.

You forgot that women thought they secured Abortion Right fifty years ago.

Those are the good old days.

Germans, Japanese and Chinese got respect because they made economic power out of their countries.

African, what have you made out of Nigeria? The richest country in Africa flowing with wara and honey turned into poverty capital of the world by unprecedented inflow of foreign Oil Income.

Can we point a finger to African Americans while the other four point to US.

Even the Native Americans don’t have the victim mentality AAs do and they had a worse time as you said.

Why didn’t other ethnicities end up like BA?

I’m not saying Africa is perfect but neither is black America.

African mentality is believing in the lie of the good ole days. That’s why Africans are super traditional. They have this imagination that life was utopic back then hence why they hold onto their traditional values.

They can't stand you too.

ednut1:
so you are basing your opinion on social media. in movies and most of media america is potrayed as heaven, is everywhere heaven there

Guy relax. A community that glorifies dysfunction and makes it THE FACE of itself with zero shame, has done to itself whatever negative global reputation it has achieved. I live in the USA and lets not cap. By their fruits you shall know them, and they show those fruits!

Even black american businesses make it hard for you to support them because their entitlement mindset makes it impossible for them to do customer service well. Then they will try to over-charge you on top their insulting you.
For the few sensible (mostly conservative) black americans that exist, if they are business owners, even they would rather hire other nationalities (asian, white, mexican) than their fellow black americans. These sensible black americans also get insulted by the majority of black americans by calling them "coons".

These sensible black americans generally would prefer to own a house in a peaceful white neighbourhood and suffer possible racist micro-aggressions, than deal with the sheer full-scale gutter-brained ignorance of their fellow black americans.

Even the "Black Lives Matter" leaders after they collected money, went to go and buy houses in chill white-majority neighborhoods because they know what their people are like.

We dey here. Leave all that cap to one side bruda.
Wisdom is far removed from the average black american. Dem no too dey get sense like dat.

jesmond3945:
but you can see the influence and power they command all over. Even girls in the uk copy them. Cardi b, nicki minaj, and other female rappers. Even the long nails that you see most girls carrying whats birthed by cardi b. So why are people not copying white girls instead?

Are you seriously asking this question?
Who do you think all these black girls are trying to copy with all this bone-straight wigs, weaves, etc etc?

Nobody is strictly copying anybody because they are "jealous". That is an insecure person's perspective trying to cope with their low self esteem.

As the world has become smaller, and races and cultures mesh and intermingle, trust women to look for ways to combine various visual influences from various cultures to maximize their global attractiveness. Same with men. That is really all it is.

You could just as well say a black man is copying italian for wearing an Armani suit. I bet your brain did not see that as the same thing. That is because the globally insecure person, always obsessed with trying to measure up in the eyes of others, is always looking for ways to validate their importance by saying "look....err...look how they copy me! haha...". Yet forgetting how much he/she is copying others.

A truly great person has no issues with being emulated without always having to bring it up. They give their mind to far more important thoughts.

googi:
You forgot American Indians, worse off than African Americans.

You forgot Voting Rights clouded by Electoral College and Gerrymandering.

You forgot that women thought they secured Abortion Right fifty years ago.

Those are the good old days.

Germans, Japanese and Chinese got respect because they made economic power out of their countries.

African, what have you made out of Nigeria? The richest country in Africa flowing with wara and honey turned into poverty capital of the world by unprecedented inflow of foreign Oil Income.

Can we point a finger to African Americans while the other four point to US.

I agree with you. but...
Multiple things can be very true at the same time.

Truth: So long as no single core-black civilization exists on earth that is truly successful (aka wakanda), black people around the world will always suffer a handicap to their global respect stat.

Also truth: The wider Black American culture goes out of its way to openly GLORIFY degeneration, which leads to a self-inflicted wound on their global respect stat. This is why a black british has leagues more global respect than a black american, even though both still suffer from the afore-mentioned global respect stat debuff. Levels dey inside the levels.

Kenn55:
@OP,

I understand what you are saying but you need to understand that it is not just a black American problem but the entire black race problem.

The unfortunate problem with our black race is that it seems like there are more idiots than sensible people unlike other races where it seems like there are more sensible people than idiots. This is why from Nigeria to Ghana to South Africa to Jamaica to Haiti etc, there is no black dominated nation that is up there, they are all in a mess. Even the non black countries that were also colonized have all left us behind.

Black Americans aren't immuned to this mess. The reason why African born blacks (Immigrants) are different and don't do like Black Americans in America is that we know where we are coming from and we have gotten sense by force.

Far majority of Black Americans haven't stepped their foot outside America so they don't even know that a lot of their black brothers in Africa don't even have the basics like electricity and running water. They don't know that those their ghettos they live in Chicago and Detroit are heaven compared to the Ghettos in Africa. They don't know that they have more oportunnities to become successful than their black brothers in Africa.

They only way to change their ways is to ship them to Africa to live for 6 months and experience life and come back to America, when they come back to America their eyes will be clear. They will begin to see oportunnities and readjust their lifestyle

This is the same thing with say majority of Nigerians in Nigeria. They were born into and have lived all their life in a flawed society so they can't differentiate right from wrong. They don't see the rot cos that's all they have been seeing so they are used to it.
During the last election for example, majority of Nigerians abroad wanted a change. In fact, Nigerians from all tribes were almost united in their choice of leader. Nobody was interested in tribe or religion, diasporans just wanted the best man for the job. Compare it to Nigeria where the focus was just my tribe my tribe. So why the difference in mentality? It is because diasporans have experienced both worlds and have become wiser and have seen the flaw that has kept the country down but majority of Nigerians in Nigeria will not see that as they haven't experienced the other world. Like I said about black Americans, if you ship majority of Nigerians in Nigeria to live abroad for 6 months, by the time they come back, they will begin to realize that sleeping in darkness, driving on bad roads, living in a unorganized society etc is actually bad and they are being cheated by their leaders, but right now majority don't even care cos that is the only world they have known and this affects their behavior.

Sorry guys for using the word "idiot". I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

No cap detected. Very aptly put and you have even managed to be honest while also extending grace to the parties involved.
Solid submission.

Let me admit that most Africans in the States know that many African Americans are hostile towards them. But Africans understand why. So it does not change Africans empathy for African Americans.

If anything, Africans, other minorities and women (both white and Black) are beneficiaries of African Americans struggle and leadership on Civil Right. Yet, they are the group that benefit least from their own spilled blood.

As for Africans and Nigerians in particular in Africa, they have as much gullible people as any other groups, not more. The reason Africans, West Indians and Nigerians succeed more than Black Natives in U.K and the States is that nobody travels that far out to go and fail. They work twice as hard more than they would in their own countries. The same is true of Black Americans out of the States.

If you leave two or more mice in a pen for experiment. They will grow well in number. But left in the same pen without more space, food and water, they start eating one another. Go anywhere, any ghetto to in Europe, America, Middle East and Africa. It boils down to the same thing.

It is a fallacy that Nigerians in Diaspora agree on one leader. No reasonable people would agree on any of the three Presidential candidates we had in Nigeria except one country and we will find out which in November.

Again, Nigerians have a country, resources, arable land and unprecedented deluge of foreign income from Oil that turn them into Poverty Capital of the world.

Why? Greed, instantaneous gratification, readymade goods and conspicuous spending.

Please note that it is true that Nigerians of all ethnic groups want change of leadership, only one group agreed and voted solidly for one candidate. Other ethnic groups voted for two or more candidates. We cannot say because capable Nigerians at home rarely have the opportunity to govern, Nigerians in Diaspora are better.

Most of the rulers in Nigeria were members of Diaspora at one point. Only Nigerians at home can save Nigeria. This is why African American wish they have the same opportunities as Nigerians.

ruggedtimi:
In my secondary sch days..we had couple of black Americans with nigeria heritage that attended my boarding sch all the way from the u.s... Most of them were so dull and very dirty.

Well done, white ppl pretending on nairaland to be black.
.we see your agenda.

Kenn55:
I can see some people making excuses for BAs. I'm not a fan of excuses or blame game cos if we dwell on that, it will end up pointing back to God and the question will be God, why did you create the world. Excuses and blame is the only thing everyone can do effortlessly without going to school to learn it.

I don't in anyway downplay the past terrible experiences of BAs, the same way I don't downplay that of black nations who suffered colonization and exploitation. Both BAs and black nations suffered in the past. However, this is 2023 and these excuses are now moot. If not, the question will be at what point P or time T or year Y or moment M are we going to break from the past? 50 years from now? 100 years? What has happened in the past despite how terrible it was can't be undone unfortunately so what happens next?

There is nothing wrong with failure. Failure is normal and part of life but you have to own it. If you fail, rather than excuses or blame game, own it and work harder to change the story. If not, in the next 100 years nothing will change after all you will have something to blame it on.

Japan is the only country that has been nuked. The 2nd world war brought Japan to her knees. But Japan rose from the ashes of the war to become the world's 2nd largest economy despite not having natural resources. China just overtook them last decade.

If Japan was a black nation, they would have used the nuclear attack as an excuse to fail. They will tell you that it will take 200 years to recover. If Japan was an Arab nation, they will use that excuse to birth many terror groups. In fact, they would have had more terror organizations than factories, they will use that unfortunate event as a rallying cry to not move forward

Like I said before, there is no need singling out BAs among other blacks. The reality is that collectively, every black group has failed whether BAs or Black African nations. The question now is what are we doing now to ensure that the future is better? If not, by 2080 this narrative will still be in play.

I rest my case.

Japan was actively helped by the U.S after WW2, until this day, they're still among the Top 5 most reliant country on the U.S... The U.S literally pumped finances into Japan after WW2, why do you think Japan and South Korea are called the U.S puppet by people like the Europeaans?.

Sladem05:


Are they the only ones to face mistreatment? Quit the victim mentality. Blacks in UK and Europe also faced struggles. Look at the Windrush Scandal. But they outperform their American counterparts.

Are you comparing the Windrush scandal of 2018, of people who couldn't make it in their our country running to Europe, to what Black Americans has passed through?.

* Black Wall Street
* The majority Black lynchings
* The KKK.
* The all White Juries.
* The community that was eradicated for the NY Central Park, and non of them was compensated, because according to the Newspaper back then, they were just "Niggas"
* The fact that they couldn't even stand their ground against a White man without getting beaten even if they were Right; And so much more.

And all these i just mentioned was happening during Jim Crow, worst even happened during Slavery, after our own ancestors sold them into slavery. You do know that if you're a minority immigrant in the U.S, you own your feel of an equal right footing to the Civil Rights Movement, a movement that was the culmination of a century of equality push by Black Americans... But yet you run away from our dilapidating country to places like the U.S, mooch off another person's struggle for equality, and then insult that person; all these while our own country is a crap hellhole that we can't fix, that is basically an hypocrite feeling all high and mighty.

Sladem05:


Comparing Black America to Africa is unfair, Offcourse BA society is going to be better than African society. Look at Africa. It’s a hellhole. People in a country like America are underperforming when you analyse the opportunities they have. Beating an African country is not a flex. Bragging about beating Africa is like bragging about beating a disabled man in a foot race.
But if you compare Black America to Blacks in Europe. You get a radically different answer. Blacks in Europe are doing better than their American counterparts in almost all walks of life and they are in an equally developed society.
Africans and Carribean immigrants outperform African Americans. Most of the blacks in power in the US tend to be black immigrants. African Americans claim Obama whose dad was Kenyan and his mum was white. Obama was also raised by his mother. But they won’t claim Elon Musk whom is literally an AFRICAN AMERICAN. It’s bizzare. They’re so many successful blacks in America that aren’t even a native black American. Kamala Harris, Malcolm X, Tyga, Wally Adeyomo and so many more come to mind.

To be honest, If Black America was an Independent country. They would be worse off than the Carribean and African places. If all Africans and Carribeans had the same opportunities as African Americans. They will blow them out the water. Even if in spite of everything their country has given them since the end of Jim Crow like Affirmative Action, Welfare and so on. They still ended up at the bottom of society there 😂😂

"If all Africans and Carribeans had the same opportunities as African Americans. They will blow them out the water".

Then we should stop going there and create the opportunities for ourselves instead of looking for ways to run to the U.S, opportunities don't come out of thin air, it is actually created... We rush there, mooch of their equality struggle for minorities that they fought for culminating in the Civil Rights Movement, and still insult them; while our own Country is a complete and utter mess of a hellhole.

You're talking about Opportunities, what's stopping us from creating the opportunities in our own country... We're looking for the already established ones, forgeting that the entire reason that minorities have a sense of equal footing in the U.S is because of the Civil Rights Movement, opportunities that Black Americans spent the better part of a Century fighting for equal rights of all minorities who call themselves an American... Those are opportunities that they fought for, for years; why are rushing there for the opportunities, why are we not also fighting for our opportunities in Nigeria and Africa... Black Americans on any objective scaling have struggled and actually fought for themselves; more than any African can say that they have in Africa, maybe except South Africans

They also faced Redlining, loans being given to Asians in the "70s to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods while the same Banks will turn down Black people looking to open businesses... All these happened post the Civil Rights Movement.

As Nigerians, we don't have the moral right to talk rubbish about the Black American community, not when we are categorically worse... 2nd highest absolute poverty rate in the world, and that's only because India has like 7× our population; one of the highest crime rates in the world, and we are the ones associating Black Americans as Criminals🤦🤦🤦, we are so crime riddled in Nigeria that there is like a Police checkpoint every kilometre; we are literally seen as one of the Scam capitals in the world... We are getting bans left and right from other countries due to fradulent activities.

Before you talk rubbish about another person's house, check to see first if your own is like a dustbin... Ours is worse than a dustbin, it's a whole landfill.

African Americans are great people. To generalize them in a bad light is very unfair. Are they perfect? Not at all. Imagine an foreigner goes to Oshodi and see how agbero behaves and now saying all Nigerians act like agberos or they speak pigin and talk like touts. When you go a country, you will see the very best and the very worst of a particular ethnicity or group of people. The problem is some Nigerians just see the worst and now labelled a whole group as lazy , dirty and so forth.

Derekmiles:


"If all Africans and Carribeans had the same opportunities as African Americans. They will blow them out the water".

Then we should stop going there and create the opportunities for ourselves instead of looking for ways to run to the U.S, opportunities don't come out of thin air, it is actually created... We rush there, mooch of their equality struggle flr minorities that they fought for culminating in the Civil Rights Movement, and still insult them; while our own Country is a complete and utter mess of a hellhole.

You're talking about Opportunities, what's stopping us from creating the opportunities in our own country... We're looking for the already established ones, forgeting that the entire reason that minorities have a sense of equal footing in the U.S is because of the Civil Rights Movement, opportunities that they spend the better part of a Century fighting for equal rigths of all minorities who call themselves an American... Those are opportunities that they fought for, for years; why are rushing there for the opportunities, why are we not also fighting for our opportunities in Nigeria and Africa... Black Americans on any objective scaling have struggled and actually fought for themselves; more than any African can say that they have in Africa, maybe except South Africans

They also faced Redlining, loans being given to Asians in the "70s to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods while the same Banks will turn down Black people looking to open businesses... All these happened post the Civil Rights Movement.

As Nigerians, we don't have the moral right to talk rubbish about the Black American community, not when we are categorically worse... 2nd highest absolute poverty rate in the world, and that's only because India has like 7× our population; one of the highest crime rates in the world, and we are the ones associating Black Americans as Criminals🤦🤦🤦, we are so crime riddled in Nigeria that there is like a Police checkpoint every kilometre; we are literally seen as one of the Scam capitals in the world... We are getting bans left and right from other countries due to fradulent activities.

Before you talk rubbish about another person's house, check to see first if your own is like a dustbin... Ours is worse than a dustbin, it's a whole landfill.

It agree with you. African Americans are great people. To generalize them in a bad light is very unfair. Are they perfect? Not at all. Imagine an foreigner goes to Oshodi and see how agbero behaves and now saying all Nigerians act like agberos or they speak pigin and talk like touts. When you go a country, you will see the very best and the very worst of a particular ethnicity or group of people. The problem is some Nigerians just see the worst and now labelled a whole group as lazy , dirty and so forth.

Derekmiles:


"If all Africans and Carribeans had the same opportunities as African Americans. They will blow them out the water".

Then we should stop going there and create the opportunities for ourselves instead of looking for ways to run to the U.S, opportunities don't come out of thin air, it is actually created... We rush there, mooch of their equality struggle flr minorities that they fought for culminating in the Civil Rights Movement, and still insult them; while our own Country is a complete and utter mess of a hellhole.

You're talking about Opportunities, what's stopping us from creating the opportunities in our own country... We're looking for the already established ones, forgeting that the entire reason that minorities have a sense of equal footing in the U.S is because of the Civil Rights Movement, opportunities that they spend the better part of a Century fighting for equal rigths of all minorities who call themselves an American... Those are opportunities that they fought for, for years; why are rushing there for the opportunities, why are we not also fighting for our opportunities in Nigeria and Africa... Black Americans on any objective scaling have struggled and actually fought for themselves; more than any African can say that they have in Africa, maybe except South Africans

They also faced Redlining, loans being given to Asians in the "70s to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods while the same Banks will turn down Black people looking to open businesses... All these happened post the Civil Rights Movement.

As Nigerians, we don't have the moral right to talk rubbish about the Black American community, not when we are categorically worse... 2nd highest absolute poverty rate in the world, and that's only because India has like 7× our population; one of the highest crime rates in the world, and we are the ones associating Black Americans as Criminals🤦🤦🤦, we are so crime riddled in Nigeria that there is like a Police checkpoint every kilometre; we are literally seen as one of the Scam capitals in the world... We are getting bans left and right from other countries due to fradulent activities.

Before you talk rubbish about another person's house, check to see first if your own is like a dustbin... Ours is worse than a dustbin, it's a whole landfill.

africans are worse but black Americans are the worst in the modern world. If black Americans founded a nation. It would be just as bad as Nigeria. Look at how how well Liberia ended up that they founded

Sladem05:


africans are worse but black Americans are the worst in the modern world. If black Americans founded a nation. It would be just as bad as Nigeria. Look at how how well Liberia ended up that they founded

"How well Liberia ended up".

FIRSTLY: Not a lot of Black Americans went to Liberia. There was an unrest conflict between the Natives of modern day Liberia and the Black Americans that was sent to Liberia, and that's understandable, because it's surprising one day seeing people being dropped by Ships in your land... The American government had advertised Liberia as this oasis they'd set up for the slaves as a way of "going back to your roots", only for a few Black Americans to reach there and discover that there was already Native tribes living in the region, and the place was basically almost a wilderness... Most Black Americans didn't fall for that nonsense given the heavy racist climate they were living in, and knowing the government was most likely lying.

Today, there are just 5% of Liberians who are descended from Black Americans, such a small % in a small populated country that their % is registered among "others" in the country's ethnic Population demography👇...

SECONDLY: We are categorically worse than them; 2nd highest poverty rate in the world, one of the crime rates in the world, one of the highest murder rates in the world... We have no moral backbone to talk trash about Black Americans. When Nigeria gained Independence, it was a Nation of an almost all Black people to thrive together. When the U.S gained Independence, Black Americans went from Slaves for 100 years, to Segregated 2nd class citizens for another 100 years; all through this, they managed to fight and create a think skin for not just the Equal Rights footing of Black people in the U.S, but for all Minorities in the U.S... And even after then, the U.S still brought Redlining to majority Black districts were Black districts were disproportionately underfunded.

So comparing what Nigerians has done to fight for ourselves doesn't come close to what Black Americans have had to fight for all Minorities in the U.S. Then after they've fought for the equal footing of all, you then have opportunistic idiots in Nigeria who can't even make Nigeria a decent place, undermining and insulting what Black Americans have done in America... The literal reason a lot of Nigerians today can say "I want to Japa to the U.S", and they will be seen with equal rights footing when they reach the U.S, is literally because of the fight for equality Black Americans fought for all minorities.

Derekmiles:


"How well Liberia ended up".

FIRSTLY: Not a lot of Black Americans went to Liberia. There was an unrest conflict between the Natives of modern day Liberia and the Black Americans that was sent to Liberia, and that's understandable, because it's surprising one day seeing people being dropped by Ships in your land... The American government had advertised Liberia as this oasis they'd set up for the slaves as a way of "going back to your roots", only for a few Black Americans to reach there and discover that there was already Native tribes living in the region, and the place was basically almost a wilderness... Most Black Americans didn't fall for that nonsense given the heavy racist climate they were living in, and knowing the government was most likely lying.

Today, there are just 5% of Liberians who are descended from Black Americans, such a small % in a small populated country that their % is registered among "others" in the country's ethnic Population demography👇...

SECONDLY: We are categorically worse than them; 2nd highest poverty rate in the world, one of the crime rates in the world, one of the highest murder rates in the world... We have no moral backbone to talk trash about Black Americans. When Nigeria gained Independence, it was a Nation of an almost all Black people to thrive together. When the U.S gained Independence, Black Americans went from Slaves for 100 years, to Segregated 2nd class citizens for another 100 years; all through this, they managed to fight and create a think skin for not just the Equal Rights footing of Black people in the U.S, but for all Minorities in the U.S... And even after then, the U.S still brought Redlining to majority Black districts were Black districts were disproportionately underfunded.

So comparing what Nigerians has done to fight for ourselves doesn't come close to what Black Americans have had to fight for all Minorities in the U.S... Then after they've fought for the equal footing of all, you then have opportunistic idiots in Nigeria who can't even make Nigeria a decent place, undermining what Black Americans have done in America; the literal reason a lot of Nigerians today can say "I want to Japa to the U.S", and they will be seen with equal rights footing when they reach the U.S, is literally because of the fight for equality Black Americans fought for all minorities.

Liberia was founded by Black Americans and the only Towson they seem better off is because they are in America. If black America was a country. It would be indistinguishable from the train wrecks in Africa and Carribean. I hate to tell you this but any society black dominated is automatically bound to fail. There isn’t yet a successful black society out there
1. What they have done in America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3sX0wO4UKU&pp=ygUbYmxhY2sgY3VsdHVyZSBsb3N0IHRoZSBwbG90

Their culture has lost the plot. Black Americans are so finished particularly in the future. They come dead last in everything whether that’s education, healthcare etc. Africans and Carribeans outperform them in their homeland. Most of the black doctors, scientists etc in the US are African and Carribean. A Kenyan Man (Obama) was put in control of their country. And a Jamaican woman (Kamala) was VP and almost their president. Africans and carribeans beat black Americans to the White House.

2. Black American wealth is projected to get to zero by 2053.
https://amp.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/sep/13/median-wealth-of-black-americans-will-fall-to-zero-by-2053-warns-new-report

You’re better off being and living as dog or domestic animal in the US compared to a black American. It’s so over for them. They’re becoming poorer and poorer whilst other demographics are getting richer. With the rise of AI and boom in the Latin and Asian populations. Blacks are becoming pretty irrelevant. The US is going to become like a massive Venezuela or Brazil where most of the population is Asian, Latin and mixed not black or white.

3. You’ve missed the point the fact that Africans and carribeans outperform blacks in the west is proof that black America would be worse if they were in their own country. The richest black Americans aren’t as rich as the richest black Africans.

And when both are under similar conditions, Africans and carribeans outperform Black Americans.

Derekmiles:


"If all Africans and Carribeans had the same opportunities as African Americans. They will blow them out the water".

Then we should stop going there and create the opportunities for ourselves instead of looking for ways to run to the U.S, opportunities don't come out of thin air, it is actually created... We rush there, mooch of their equality struggle for minorities that they fought for culminating in the Civil Rights Movement, and still insult them; while our own Country is a complete and utter mess of a hellhole.

You're talking about Opportunities, what's stopping us from creating the opportunities in our own country... We're looking for the already established ones, forgeting that the entire reason that minorities have a sense of equal footing in the U.S is because of the Civil Rights Movement, opportunities that Black Americans spent the better part of a Century fighting for equal rights of all minorities who call themselves an American... Those are opportunities that they fought for, for years; why are rushing there for the opportunities, why are we not also fighting for our opportunities in Nigeria and Africa... Black Americans on any objective scaling have struggled and actually fought for themselves; more than any African can say that they have in Africa, maybe except South Africans

They also faced Redlining, loans being given to Asians in the "70s to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods while the same Banks will turn down Black people looking to open businesses... All these happened post the Civil Rights Movement.

As Nigerians, we don't have the moral right to talk rubbish about the Black American community, not when we are categorically worse... 2nd highest absolute poverty rate in the world, and that's only because India has like 7× our population; one of the highest crime rates in the world, and we are the ones associating Black Americans as Criminals🤦🤦🤦, we are so crime riddled in Nigeria that there is like a Police checkpoint every kilometre; we are literally seen as one of the Scam capitals in the world... We are getting bans left and right from other countries due to fradulent activities.

Before you talk rubbish about another person's house, check to see first if your own is like a dustbin... Ours is worse than a dustbin, it's a whole landfill.

You reasoning is just like theirs, this is why black America can never progress and is constantly left in the dust by other demographics.
The victim mentality.

2/3rd of the United States was under New Spain. Hispanics were in the US long before anyone else.
They lost their land in the Mexican American war.
And the Anglos have been killing and discriminating against them just as much as they did to the blacks
Look at the 1848 Mexican American War
Hispanic Segregation
Mexican repatriation

Asians have also faced much discrimination.
It was Chinese people that built the transcontinental road. The US had a law banning Asians from entering the US.
The US dropped the mother of all bombs on Japan in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and they put Japanese Americans into internment camps. And don’t get me started with how dirty Uncle Sam’s foreign policy has been in Asia. Look at what Uncle Sam did in the Middle East, South Asia etc.
There is still so much Latino and particularly Asian hate in the US. Yet neither has allowed it to stop them from why they are achieving the success they have in the US today. Every ethnicity has had a bad time.

Or what about the Irish who built much of the early infrastructure the US that were indentured servants.

Sladem05:



You reasoning is just like theirs, this is why black America can never progress and is constantly left in the dust by other demographics.
The victim mentality.

2/3rd of the United States was under New Spain. Hispanics were in the US long before anyone else.
They lost their land in the Mexican American war.
And the Anglos have been killing and discriminating against them just as much as they did to the blacks
Look at the 1848 Mexican American War
Hispanic Segregation
Mexican repatriation

Asians have also faced much discrimination.
It was Chinese people that built the transcontinental road. The US had a law banning Asians from entering the US.
The US dropped the mother of all bombs on Japan in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and they put Japanese Americans into internment camps. And don’t get me started with how dirty Uncle Sam’s foreign policy has been in Asia. Look at what Uncle Sam did in the Middle East, South Asia etc.
There is still so much Latino and particularly Asian hate in the US. Yet neither has allowed it to stop them from why they are achieving the success they have in the US today. Every ethnicity has had a bad time.

Or what about the Irish who built much of the early infrastructure the US that were indentured servants.

"The U.S dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan", true... It is also true that the U.S has heavily financially helped Japan to this day, Japan is still one of the 5 most reliant countries to the U.S until this day.

Lets talke about the HISPANICS, this will go a long way because even though the U.S sees it as a racial construct, it's not. There are HISPANICS of Majorly African ethnicity, same with European and Native ethnicity... But let's take your rendition of Hispanics here to mean "Mexicans", the average salary of the U.S-Mexican community was approx. $63k as of 2023, while Black salary was approx. $57k, in fact, the only group you mentioned there that is way off the Black group is the Asian community; and the funny thing is that most Asian Americans today came after the Civil Rights Movement... It's not even news anymore that a lot of Asian immigrants who came during the "70s were given loans to start businesses in Black neighbourhoods, but Black people would be refuse same loans, even the Asians themselves say it; but yet, you think those 3 groups have faced the same level of hate in the U.S, i laugh at your ignorance... You mentioned Indians, most Indians today came after the Civil Rights Movement, and India as a country is literally one of Asia's biggest SHITHOLE, i remember reading an Indian comment when they did the Moon something, the dude was like "We're poor, and this government is focused on spending money in looking like a world powerhouse".

Now let's talk about the Hispanic-Segragation which is actually very true, but the difference between the Hispanic-Segragation and Black segregation was that the Hispanic-Segragation wasn't actually part of the Law, it was a mental expectation mainly in South-Western U.S that they were considered Less, not a Lawful one. So while they did face serious discrimination and i'm not denying that (the Mendez school case and the mass repatriation is enough to understand the discrimination the Hispanic community was facing), it still didn't come close to literally infecting people with Syphilis without their knowledge, basically being treated like Animal test subjects without even knowing... Yes Mexicans were lynched during Jim Crow, not as close as the amount of Black people though, but it is still very terrible; but do you know the countless amount of all White Juries that sentenced Black people just because of "Why not".

I didn't want to compare what the Latin community faced to what the Black community faced, but your comment left me no choice... Comparing them is like a Nigerian saying what we passed at the hands of colonialism under Nigeria is the same as what the Black South Africans passed at the hands of the Dutch(Afrikaans); any Nigerian who would say that would be extremely delusional. I dislike South Africans based off their rhetorics of Nigeria, but i'm delusional enough to not see when some people have faced through a greater hardship than me.

Now, let's talk reparations, we always say Black Americans are entitled for bringing up reparations, Black Americans are this?, and yes, i do think that Black Americans are a bit entitled. I still do think think that a lot of Nigerians are entitled, because we always complain about the government, but a lot of the Citizens also refuse to be upstanding Citizens or even follow paths to help out the Economy... Anyways, back to Black Americans, when you look at some of the Reparation history of the U.S, it is actually a wonder why Black Americans has gotten nothing in terms of Reparations, this i will bring out👇.

And to your very first paragraph, i don't know if it was you i said this to before; anyway, it's stupid to say "Your reasoning is like theirs" all High and Mighty when the country you and i come from is literally a SHITHOLE... And no, i don't have a Victim Mentality, because i literally told you in my above comment that Lets stop fleeing from Nigeria and actually create those opportunities for ourselves in Nigeria, not going to already established places like leeches; that's the mentality of a person willing to push his country forward... What i have is a "Understand History in all its form" mentality, and call it as it is; not this rubbish "Oh, forget about it" nonsense.

I'm not saying i support certain ways of the Black American community today, but what i won't have is some of my stupid countrymen being so ignorant enough to undermine what they've struggled and done for the U.S, especially for minorities. And worse off, our country is literally an empty drum, yet, you guys are the ones making the loudest noise of judging.

Sladem05:

Liberia was founded by Black Americans and the only Towson they seem better off is because they are in America. If black America was a country. It would be indistinguishable from the train wrecks in Africa and Carribean. I hate to tell you this but any society black dominated is automatically bound to fail. There isn’t yet a successful black society out there
1. What they have done in America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3sX0wO4UKU&pp=ygUbYmxhY2sgY3VsdHVyZSBsb3N0IHRoZSBwbG90

Their culture has lost the plot. Black Americans are so finished particularly in the future. They come dead last in everything whether that’s education, healthcare etc. Africans and Carribeans outperform them in their homeland. Most of the black doctors, scientists etc in the US are African and Carribean. A Kenyan Man (Obama) was put in control of their country. And a Jamaican woman (Kamala) was VP and almost their president. Africans and carribeans beat black Americans to the White House.

2. Black American wealth is projected to get to zero by 2053.
https://amp.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/sep/13/median-wealth-of-black-americans-will-fall-to-zero-by-2053-warns-new-report

You’re better off being and living as dog or domestic animal in the US compared to a black American. It’s so over for them. They’re becoming poorer and poorer whilst other demographics are getting richer. With the rise of AI and boom in the Latin and Asian populations. Blacks are becoming pretty irrelevant. The US is going to become like a massive Venezuela or Brazil where most of the population is Asian, Latin and mixed not black or white.

3. You’ve missed the point the fact that Africans and carribeans outperform blacks in the west is proof that black America would be worse if they were in their own country. The richest black Americans aren’t as rich as the richest black Africans.

And when both are under similar conditions, Africans and carribeans outperform Black Americans.

I will assume that you're a Nigerian like me.

Now lets start with the 2nd because i can't even be bothered with the ignorance of the 1st given that it's a Nigerian saying this nonsense, and i've lived the crime cultism riddled Nigeria... The empty drums will always judge others the loudest.

2: The link you gave was from 2017, the average salary of a Black American family has only increased, being at $57k in 2023, not still as high per demographics, but definitely the opposite of that nonsense you just posted.

3: That is such a stupid take, very stupid take. Why?, because most Nigerians who migrate to the U.S and Canada are literally the cream of the crop, that's why Nigeria has one of the worst braindrains in the world; it's also the same thing with the Asian community... I've literally come across an Indian subReddit discussing this issue from an Indian perspective, the Indian who created it was angry that way more Indians were coming into Canada, and that a lot of the Indians who were now coming in were not the types that came in with seriousness for studying or going into the Workforce anymore... Nigerians and Carribbeans do better than Black Americans on average because alot of the people migrating from those countries are literally some of the best those countries have to offer in terms of Seriousness ethics; this is also why those same countries are said to have a serious Braindrain... The Nigerian Braindrain issue is a very well discussed issue in Nigeria, it's not even hidden anymore.

Indians on average do better than Brits. in Britain, yet India is still a SHITHOLE... So will you say that the British would be worse off than India if they had their own country, because that has literally happened. Go and read and understand Brainbrain before you start comparing nonsense.

This is the only thing i will say to Nigerians in the U.S diaspora that are feeling all high and mighty over Black Americans; "Just because you're enjoying a Soup that you didn't prepare, doesn't mean you understand what it took to prepare that Soup".

Derekmiles:


I will assume that you're a Nigerian like me.

Now lets start with the 2nd because i can't even be bothered with the ignorance of the 1st given that it's a Nigerian saying this nonsense, and i've lived the crime cultism riddled Nigeria... The empty drums will always judge others the loudest.

2: The link you gave was from 2017, the average salary of a Black American family has only increased, being at $57k in 2023, not still as high per demographics, but definitely the opposite of that nonsense you just posted.

3: That is such a stupid take, very stupid take. Why?, because most Nigerians who migrate to the U.S and Canada are literally the cream of the crop, that's why Nigeria has one of the worst braindrains in the world; it's also the same thing with the Asian community... I've literally come across an Indian subReddit discussing this issue from an Indian perspective, the Indian who created it was angry that way more Indians were coming into Canada, and that a lot of the Indians who were now coming in were not the types that came in with seriousness for studying or going into the Workforce anymore... Nigerians and Carribbeans do better than Black Americans on average because alot of the people migrating from those countries are literally some of the best those countries have to offer in terms of Seriousness ethics; this is also why those same countries are said to have a serious Braindrain... The Nigerian Braindrain issue is a very well discussed issue in Nigeria, it's not even hidden anymore.

Indians on average do better than Brits. in Britain, yet India is still a SHITHOLE... So will you say that the British would be worse off than India if they had their own country, because that has literally happened. Go and read and understand Brainbrain before you start comparing nonsense.

This is the only thing i will say to Nigerians in the U.S diaspora that are feeling all high and mighty over Black Americans; "Just because you're enjoying a Soup that you didn't prepare, doesn't mean you understand what it took to prepare that Soup".

1. If you actually watched
That video you’d know as to how much black Americans have lost the plot.

2. How on earth is a family in the US going to survive on $56,000 in this kind of economy. Most Black Americans are barely getting by. And what they make is meaningless because of their outcome. They live much shorter, more unhealthy and more dangerous lives than any other American.

3. I’m not denying that the reason that immigrants that enter the US outperform BA is because they are highly specialised but if they can achieve something. Why can’t black Americans?

Latinos are certainly not the cream of the crop particularly the ones that are entering America illegally. They are escaping warfare, persecution etc. Yet Latinos that come to the US outperform Black Americans. Border hoppers are having better prospects in the US than Black Americans.

4. Your comparison with India is not valid as in fairness they did overtake the entire the GDP of the UK a couple and they are more than a rival to the UK. India has already overtaken the UK in many aspects. They are a rising power. I can’t believe you just called what is like a top 6 world economy with growing power a shithole.India a path to rival the US and China. That’s like saying China is a shithole because Chinese students flock to the West and China has brain drain. Every non western country has a brain drain. They come to the western world to learn, improve their English and so on

Derekmiles:


"The U.S dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan", true... It is also true that the U.S has heavily financially helped Japan to this day, Japan is still one of the 5 most reliant countries to the U.S until this day.

Lets talke about the HISPANICS, this will go a long way because even though the U.S sees it as a racial construct, it's not. There are HISPANICS of Majorly African ethnicity, same with European and Native ethnicity... But let's take your rendition of Hispanics here to mean "Mexicans", the average salary of the U.S-Mexican community was approx. $63k as of 2023, while Black salary was approx. $57k, in fact, the only group you mentioned there that is way off the Black group is the Asian community; and the funny thing is that most Asian Americans today came after the Civil Rights Movement... It's not even news anymore that a lot of Asian immigrants who came during the "70s were given loans to start businesses in Black neighbourhoods, but Black people would be refuse same loans, even the Asians themselves say it; but yet, you think those 3 groups have faced the same level of hate in the U.S, i laugh at your ignorance... You mentioned Indians, most Indians today came after the Civil Rights Movement, and India as a country is literally one of Asia's biggest SHITHOLE, i remember reading an Indian comment when they did the Moon something, the dude was like "We're poor, and this government is focused on spending money in looking like a world powerhouse".

Now let's talk about the Hispanic-Segragation which is actually very true, but the difference between the Hispanic-Segragation and Black segregation was that the Hispanic-Segragation wasn't actually part of the Law, it was a mental expectation mainly in South-Western U.S that they were considered Less, not a Lawful one. So while they did face serious discrimination and i'm not denying that (the Mendez school case and the mass repatriation is enough to understand the discrimination the Hispanic community was facing), it still didn't come close to literally infecting people with Syphilis without their knowledge, basically being treated like Animal test subjects without even knowing... Yes Mexicans were lynched during Jim Crow, not as close as the amount of Black people though, but it is still very terrible; but do you know the countless amount of all White Juries that sentenced Black people just because of "Why not".

I didn't want to compare what the Latin community faced to what the Black community faced, but your comment left me no choice... Comparing them is like a Nigerian saying what we passed at the hands of colonialism under Nigeria is the same as what the Black South Africans passed at the hands of the Dutch(Afrikaans); any Nigerian who would say that would be extremely delusional. I dislike South Africans based off their rhetorics of Nigeria, but i'm delusional enough to not see when some people have faced through a greater hardship than me.

Now, let's talk reparations, we always say Black Americans are entitled for bringing up reparations, Black Americans are this?, and yes, i do think that Black Americans are a bit entitled. I still do think think that a lot of Nigerians are entitled, because we always complain about the government, but a lot of the Citizens also refuse to be upstanding Citizens or even follow paths to help out the Economy... Anyways, back to Black Americans, when you look at some of the Reparation history of the U.S, it is actually a wonder why Black Americans has gotten nothing in terms of Reparations, this i will bring out👇.

And to your very first paragraph, i don't know if it was you i said this to before; anyway, it's stupid to say "Your reasoning is like theirs" all High and Mighty when the country you and i come from is literally a SHITHOLE... And no, i don't have a Victim Mentality, because i literally told you in my above comment that Lets stop fleeing from Nigeria and actually create those opportunities for ourselves in Nigeria, not going to already established places like leeches; that's the mentality of a person willing to push his country forward... What i have is a "Understand History in all its form" mentality, and call it as it is; not this rubbish "Oh, forget about it" nonsense.

I'm not saying i support certain ways of the Black American community today, but what i won't have is some of my stupid countrymen being so ignorant enough to undermine what they've struggled and done for the U.S, especially for minorities. And worse off, our country is literally an empty drum, yet, you guys are the ones making the loudest noise of judging.

1. Japan and Germany being rebuilt is not just down to Uncle Sam’s funding. Sure it helped but they did that themselves and their entire countries were levelled. Germany was split apart for like 40 years and yet they are the 4th largest economy on earth. India is like the fastest growing economy or one of on earth and you’re calling them a shithole? We are heading into an Asian century 😂

There aren’t really many black Hispanics or Latinos but mulattoes. Most Latin Americans are heavily mixed race as they have all been intermixing for many centuries. And the $10k+ gap between Hispanics and Blacks is significant. And it’s growing, Black wealth is predicted to reach zero by 2053. Latinos on the other hand are set to reach $113 trillion by 2050.
https://time.com/collection/closers/6564912/dedrick-asante-muhammad/#:~:text=Should%20the%20United%20States%20continue,Hoxie%2C%20and%20Emanuel%20Nieves%20found.

Latinos and Asians are the bedrock of the US economy at this point. Latin labor is needed to maintain and develop the land of the US. Asian ingenuity keeps the US competitive in geopolitics.

Segregation regardless of whether or not it’s de facto or de jure is segregation. Hispanics and Asians have had just bad as a time as blacks have. Yet they aren’t crying about it.

Derekmiles:


"The U.S dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan", true... It is also true that the U.S has heavily financially helped Japan to this day, Japan is still one of the 5 most reliant countries to the U.S until this day.

Lets talke about the HISPANICS, this will go a long way because even though the U.S sees it as a racial construct, it's not. There are HISPANICS of Majorly African ethnicity, same with European and Native ethnicity... But let's take your rendition of Hispanics here to mean "Mexicans", the average salary of the U.S-Mexican community was approx. $63k as of 2023, while Black salary was approx. $57k, in fact, the only group you mentioned there that is way off the Black group is the Asian community; and the funny thing is that most Asian Americans today came after the Civil Rights Movement... It's not even news anymore that a lot of Asian immigrants who came during the "70s were given loans to start businesses in Black neighbourhoods, but Black people would be refuse same loans, even the Asians themselves say it; but yet, you think those 3 groups have faced the same level of hate in the U.S, i laugh at your ignorance... You mentioned Indians, most Indians today came after the Civil Rights Movement, and India as a country is literally one of Asia's biggest SHITHOLE, i remember reading an Indian comment when they did the Moon something, the dude was like "We're poor, and this government is focused on spending money in looking like a world powerhouse".

Now let's talk about the Hispanic-Segragation which is actually very true, but the difference between the Hispanic-Segragation and Black segregation was that the Hispanic-Segragation wasn't actually part of the Law, it was a mental expectation mainly in South-Western U.S that they were considered Less, not a Lawful one. So while they did face serious discrimination and i'm not denying that (the Mendez school case and the mass repatriation is enough to understand the discrimination the Hispanic community was facing), it still didn't come close to literally infecting people with Syphilis without their knowledge, basically being treated like Animal test subjects without even knowing... Yes Mexicans were lynched during Jim Crow, not as close as the amount of Black people though, but it is still very terrible; but do you know the countless amount of all White Juries that sentenced Black people just because of "Why not".

I didn't want to compare what the Latin community faced to what the Black community faced, but your comment left me no choice... Comparing them is like a Nigerian saying what we passed at the hands of colonialism under Nigeria is the same as what the Black South Africans passed at the hands of the Dutch(Afrikaans); any Nigerian who would say that would be extremely delusional. I dislike South Africans based off their rhetorics of Nigeria, but i'm delusional enough to not see when some people have faced through a greater hardship than me.

Now, let's talk reparations, we always say Black Americans are entitled for bringing up reparations, Black Americans are this?, and yes, i do think that Black Americans are a bit entitled. I still do think think that a lot of Nigerians are entitled, because we always complain about the government, but a lot of the Citizens also refuse to be upstanding Citizens or even follow paths to help out the Economy... Anyways, back to Black Americans, when you look at some of the Reparation history of the U.S, it is actually a wonder why Black Americans has gotten nothing in terms of Reparations, this i will bring out👇.

And to your very first paragraph, i don't know if it was you i said this to before; anyway, it's stupid to say "Your reasoning is like theirs" all High and Mighty when the country you and i come from is literally a SHITHOLE... And no, i don't have a Victim Mentality, because i literally told you in my above comment that Lets stop fleeing from Nigeria and actually create those opportunities for ourselves in Nigeria, not going to already established places like leeches; that's the mentality of a person willing to push his country forward... What i have is a "Understand History in all its form" mentality, and call it as it is; not this rubbish "Oh, forget about it" nonsense.

I'm not saying i support certain ways of the Black American community today, but what i won't have is some of my stupid countrymen being so ignorant enough to undermine what they've struggled and done for the U.S, especially for minorities. And worse off, our country is literally an empty drum, yet, you guys are the ones making the loudest noise of judging.

Why should they get reparations for something that they themselves didn’t even experience? That’s called wanting a cheap handout. This is why Africans, carribeans, Asians and Hispanics outperform them when they come to the US. They don’t have this victim mentality and just try to succeed.

Sladem05:


1. If you actually watched
That video you’d know as to how much black Americans have lost the plot.

2. How on earth is a family in the US going to survive on $56,000 in this kind of economy. Most Black Americans are barely getting by. And what they make is meaningless because of their outcome. They live much shorter, more unhealthy and more dangerous lives than any other American.

3. I’m not denying that the reason that immigrants that enter the US outperform BA is because they are highly specialised but if they can achieve something. Why can’t black Americans?

Latinos are certainly not the cream of the crop particularly the ones that are entering America illegally. They are escaping warfare, persecution etc. Yet Latinos that come to the US outperform Black Americans. Border hoppers are having better prospects in the US than Black Americans.

4. Your comparison with India is not valid as in fairness they did overtake the entire the GDP of the UK a couple and they are more than a rival to the UK. India has already overtaken the UK in many aspects. They are a rising power. I can’t believe you just called what is like a top 6 world economy with growing power a shithole.India a path to rival the US and China. That’s like saying China is a shithole because Chinese students flock to the West and China has brain drain. Every non western country has a brain drain. They come to the western world to learn, improve their English and so on

I don't bother with some of your categories because i can't be bothered with the ignorance. Anyways;

2). I didn't say $56k was super high, in fact, i specifically buttressed on that in my last comment... Your comment was they financially declining, and i literally just debunked it that since that 2017 in article was brought out, they've financially been becoming better; and the Latino community financial numbers there too because of the fact that the difference between both is marginal, the White population is at $76k, and the highest if i'm not mistaking is Indian-Americans at $130k.

4). That's laughable, do you even know what's going on in India?. Indians are still by far the biggest migrants of any group in the world, fleeing India because they can't take the depreciating state of the country anymore... "They overtook Great Britains GDP", yes, technically they did do that, with a 1.4 Billion population😂😂😂, India is still a very much Population driven economy, not a technological or industrially driven economy, though they're way better than Nigeria in those aspects.

The Phujabis want out, the North-Easterners want out because the country is by and large going nowhere... India has one of the worst Per Capitas in Asia at $2600, the UK you're talking about is at $52000, which is the true representation of how Rich and well to do a country is per the population, as far as it is adequately used and improved on, because it evaluates GDP by the actual population; by the way, Nigeria currently has a per capita of $1100🤦🤦🤦... If i'm not mistaken, any country about $10k-$15k is considered a 2nd World country, $15k and above is a 1st world country, and $10k and below is a Third world country... India is categorically a SHITHOLE, it has one of the worst development per population in all of Asia; that's why i remember seeing an Indian comment in regards to the Moon Landing were the dude said that "The Indian government is doing everything to look powerful, while the average Indian is suffering". That's not exactly how he said it because i can't remember exactly how he said it, but that was the general gist of it.
Edit: Some graphs on what i'm talking about👇.

Look at the Influx of Indians fleeing from the U.S to Canada because they don't want to get deported back to India, look at the amount of Indians recently doing a sought of Education scam just to get out of India. The scam entails that they use an Educational path to go to Europe, North American, or Australia, and when they get there, if they can't extend their Visas, they just go off-grid, i watched a documentary on this very issue earlier this year... India is only seen as an upcoming Powerhouse due to the share circumstances that their extreme population has resulted in the absolute numbers like absolute GDP being high, thus a "Population driven Economy"; the country is very much categorically a SHITHOLE, everybody knows this... It's basically the same issue with Nigeria being seen as an African powerhouse... It's terrible when a country's economy majorly grows because of Population growth.

I have Nepali friends, India's neighbour, and they will literally laugh at what you just said about India.

3). This goes back to the whole braindrain mentality. When you majorly take the cream of the crop to a specific place, they are bound to be successful; the U.S is not an easy a place to migrant to for Nigerians because of the big ass Ocean seperating us, majority of the people who are then determined to get there are some of the best we have to offer.

The rhetoric of Nigerian-Americans are some of the best rhetorics of Nigerians anywhere, let me show you the rhetorics of Nigerians in some other places... In Italy, Nigerians are literally associated with Organised crime; Dubai banned Nigeria for a while because of Cultism. In Switzerland, the Nigerian demographic has the 2nd highest crime rate of any demographic in the country, literally the 2nd, just behind Angolans; Seychelles banned Nigerians for a while because they found out that fraudulent activities increased after they relaxed entrances of Nigerians; I don't even need to talk about the South African one.

What does almost all these countries have in common, easier access to them from Nigerians allowing more Nigerians that you won't associate with being the Cream of the crop into them, many pass through Land/Water routes like this👇, especially into Europe.

Now to answer your question on "Why can't Black Americans?", Black Americans do make it, countless have, that's like saying "Why can't Nigerians make it?", because most Nigerians categorically hasn't made it... Anyway, Black Americans in American is a true representation of the community, and what i mean by that is it entails both the best of the best, the crazies, and the just general norms; living in what you'd basically associate as their homeland at this point... Nigerian-Amercans is not a true representation of the Nigerian community... Like i said before in my previous comment, does that mean that i'm justifying certain aspects of the Black American community like having the highest rate of gang activity per % population, of course not, and i will never justify it; but it doesn't also mean that i will overlook the history that has led to the situation it is today.

Of all groups in the U.S, no group has had it as hard as Black Americans has had it, this is a fact that even some Racist who doesn't want to a conversation on U.S Racial history doesn't dispute. Even after the Civil Rights Movement in the "60s and everyone lawfully had "Equal Rights", Black neighbourhoods were being Redlined for years, loans were given to Asian migrants to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods, but same loans will be refused to Black people; this is a part of U.S history even Asians today talk about... That is why i told you in a previous comment that "When the world seems like it is completely against you, your options becomes extremely limited"; this is were the mentality of "Beating the system at any cost" came into the Black American community, "I will do anything to beat the system", and the easiest route to make money and beat the system became Crime, and the people who made it became idolised by the younger ones, starting a chain reaction that has led to an increased idolisation of illegal activities in illegal activies.

What now needs to be tackled in the Black American community is the IDOLISATION of finding anyway to beat the system, they need to understand that "They don't need to beat the system anymore", because the system is way better now than it used to be... Another example of this terrible idolisation from another community's perspective is our very own Nigerian community, the idolisation of fraudulent crimes in Nigeria, Cultism and its depravity, and how it all started; but ours may even be worse, because it came as a result of we putting the country in a crap state by ourselves... You want another example, read about the U.S Mafia, and the idolisation it carried for a long time.

The problem with how you view Black Americans is that you can't differentiate the history Black Americans has historically lived with the one White Americans has lived... To you, it's "they were in a developed country, so they should have that to their advantage", but when the country you live in has historically extremely conditioned and put you at the very bottom of the barrel, cut open that barrel and allow you to fall, where do you think that advantage starts coming from, it becomes almost Non-existent.

Some Nigerians don't understand how history can change the mentality of people especially when you're traumatically at the disadvantage... The f*cked up part is that we see this very issue in Nigeria all the time, so how Nigerians don't apply it to the historical plight of others doesn't make any sense to me.

Also, Black wealth will become Zero, and Hispanics will be $113 Trillion, what kind of conspiracy BS are you guys watching.
* Firstly: The article you sent was from 2017, the average wealth of the Black American family has only been increasing since that 2017... That already debunks the Zero nonsense you've been spilling, but lets continue;
* Secondly: The total wealth of South America as a whole, which holds the majority of the Latin America wealth is 4 Trillion GDP, and 8 trillion purchasing power... The U.S goes on about 29 Trillion today; but to you, the total wealth of Hispanics in the U.S will somehow become $113 Trillion by 2050🤦🤦🤦.

Sladem05:


Why should they get reparations for something that they themselves didn’t even experience? That’s called wanting a cheap handout. This is why Africans, carribeans, Asians and Hispanics outperform them when they come to the US. They don’t have this victim mentality and just try to succeed.

While like i said, i don't care about the Reparations; but your take is a very weird take, especially given the number of groups that has gotten reparations from the U.S due to historical discrimination... It's like you fail to grasp the idea that this are things that will be set up for other communities sometimes, but when it comes to the Black community, it's "Why should they get it?. Then why the f*ck did a lot of the other historically disadvantaged communities get theirs?.

I don't want to be insultive, and sorry if this comes across that way; but do you not realise the double standard in there, or is the major Nigerian propesity to glamourise the Far-Right (Not Right-Wing, same Political side though), anyway, the extreme section of a political side that has historically caused the majority of the Racist issues in the U.S and even Germany; it's like glamourising that political side is clouding the judgement of some Nigerians, or making them Simps to the White man's point of view in history... Because the other day, i actually saw a Nigerian saying "The U.S segregation was not racist, that the White men were not Racist"🤦🤦🤦. What would will hear next from some Nigerians?, "Slavery was not bad?".

I'm starting to understand why tribalism is a very serious issue in Nigeria, it's just a tribal version of Racism; because for a lot of Nigerians, if it's not the historical plight of their own particular group, they become very ignorant... Basically the "I'm ok with it as far as it's not happening to me" types.

I've seen some of your above comments talking about how the MAGA and extremist GOOD OLE DAYS rhetoric doesn't actually exist. And i get that to some extent, you're just conscious of the fact that the Black American community has a higher propesity of certain unscrupulous activities compared to other groups; so i totally understand it... But you can't also not look at the historical aspect of things and how it shaped the mentality especially in places that will today be referred to as "The hood"; because a lot of people that lived that history are still very much alive, that's to tell you how recent it is. I've heard latinos who lived in the Segregation era say this same shit, that they didn't have it close to as hard as Black Americans, because there was no actual laws segregating them, so any Racism they got came from just pure individual/mental bias; not set in stone concrete Laws... The U.S was literally a hierarchy system, and Black Americans were at completely the bottom of the food chain.

Derekmiles:


I don't bother with some of your categories because i can't be bothered with the ignorance. So i will go with the on

2). I didn't say $56k was super high, in fact, i specifically buttressed on that in my last comment... Your comment was they financially declining, and i literally just debunked it that since that 2017 in article was brought out, they've financially been becoming better; and the Latino community financial numbers there too because of the fact that the difference between both is marginal, the White population is at $76k, and the highest i'm not mistaken, Indian-Americans is at $130k.

4). That's laughable, do you even know what's going on in India?. Indians are still by far the biggest migrants of any group in the world, fleeing India because they can't take the depreciating state of the country anymore... "They overtook Great Britains GDP", yes, technically they did do that, with a 1.4 Billion population😂😂😂, India is still a very much Population driven economy, not a technologically driven economy, though they're way better than Nigeria in that aspect.

The Phujabis want out, the North-Easterners want out because the country is by and large going nowhere... India has one of the worst Per Capitas in Asia at $2600, the UK you're talking about is at $52000, which is the true representation of how Rich and well to do a country is per the population, as far as it is adequately used and improved on; because it evaluates GDP by the actual population, by the way, Nigeria currently has a per capita of $1100🤦🤦🤦... If i'm not mistaken, any country about $10k-$15k is considered a 2nd World country, $15k and above is a 1st world country, and $10k and below is a Third world country... India is categorically a SHITHOLE, it has one of the worst development per population in all of Asia; that's why i remember seeing an Indian comment in regards to the Moon Land were the dude said that "The Indian government is doing everything to look powerful, while the average Indian is suffering". That's not exactly how he said it because i can't remember exactly how he said it, but that was the general gist of it.
Edit: Some graphs on what i'm talking about👇.

Look at the Influx of Indians fleeing from the U.S to Canada because they don't want to get deported back to India, look at the amount of Indians recently doing a sought of Education scam just to get out of India. The scam entails that they use an Educational path to go to Europe, North American, or Australia, and when they get there, if they can't extend their Visas, they just go off-grid, i watched a documentary on this very issue earlier this year... India is only seen as an upcoming Powerhouse due to the share circumstances that their population has resulted it in, the country is very much categorically a SHITHOLE, everybody knows this.

I have Nepali friends, India's neighbour, and they will literally laugh at what you just said about India.

3). This goes back to the whole braindrain mentality. When you majorly take the cream of the crop to a specific place, they are bound to be successful; the U.S is not an easy a place to migrant to for Nigerians because of the big ass Ocean seperating us, majority of the people who are then determined to get there are some of the best we have to offer.

The rhetoric of Nigerian-Americans are some of the best rhetorics of Nigerians anywhere, let me show you the rhetorics of Nigerians in some other places... In Italy, Nigerians are literally associated with Organised crime; Dubai banned Nigeria for a while because of Cultism. In Switzerland, the Nigerian demographic has the 2nd highest crime rate of any demographic in the country, literally the 2nd, just behind Angolans; Seychelles banned Nigerians for a while because they found out that fraudulent activities increased after they relaxed entrances of Nigerians; I don't even need to talk about the South African one.

What does almost all these countries have in common, easier access to them from Nigerians allowing more Nigerians that you won't associate with being the Cream of the crop into them, many pass through Land/Water routes like this👇, especially into Europe.

Now to answer your question on "Why can't Black Americans?", Black Americans in American is a true representation of the community, and what i mean by that is it entails both the best of the best, the crazies, and the just general norms; living in what you'd basically associate as their homeland at this point... Nigerian-Amercans is not a true representation of the Nigerian community... Like i said before in my previous comment, does that mean that i'm justifying certain aspects of the Black American community like having the highest rate of gang activity per % population, of course not, and i will never justify it; but it doesn't also mean that i will overlook the history that has led to the situation it is today.

Of all groups in the U.S, no group has had it as hard as Black Americans has had it, this is a fact that even some Racist who doesn't want to a conversation on U.S Racial history doesn't dispute... Even after the Civil Rights Movement and everyone lawfully had "Equal Rights", Black neighbourhoods were being Redlined for years, loans were given to Asian migrants to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods, but same loans will be refused to Black people; this is a part of U.S history even Asians today talk about. That is why i told you in a previous comment that "When the world seems like it is completely against you, your options becomes super limited", this is were the mentality of "Beating the system at any cost" came into the Black American community, "I will do anything to beat the system", and the easiest route to make money and beat the system became Crime, and the people who made it became idolised by the younger ones, starting a chain reaction that has led to an increased idolisation of illegal activities in illegal activies... You want an example of this from another community's perspective, read about the idolisation of fraudulent crime in Nigeria, and how it all started; but ours may even be worse, because it came as a result of we putting it country in a crap state by ourselves... You want another example, read about the U.S Mafia, and the idolisation it carried for a long time.

The problem with how you view Black Americans is that you can't differentiate the history Black Americans has historically lived with the one White Americans has lived... To you, it's "they were in a developed country, so they should have that to their advantage", but when the country you live in has historically extremely conditioned and put you at the very bottom of the barrel, cut open that barrel and allow you to fall, where do you think that advantage starts coming from, it becomes almost Non-existent.

Nigerians don't understand how history can change the mentality of people especially when you're traumatically at the disadvantage... The f*cked up part is that we see this very issue in Nigeria all the time, so how Nigerians don't apply it to the historical plight of others doesn't make any sense to me.

Pls don't rise above what Happened more than 400 years ago, bitch and moan about it because you are so useless that you can't overcome adversity you never endured, the victim mentality will take you to the higher plains of achievements, black people are the only ones that were slaves. So because Blacks are so helpless and useless they will remain slaves for life, so Rob, steal, be lazy, stay corrupt, spend all your monies on jewelries, fuq women and abandon them when they get pregnant, walk around with your pants on your ass, idolize rappers, claim hip-hop culture as your own, glorify going to prison, you are slave but you have no problems having guns to kill another black man.

Remain helpless and useless because you are descendants of slaves.

pryme:


Pls don't rise above what Happened more than 400 years ago, bitch and moan about it because you are so useless that you can't overcome adversity you never endured, the victim mentality will take you to the higher plains of achievements, black people are the only ones that were slaves. So because Blacks are so helpless and useless they will remain slaves for life, so Rob, steal, be lazy, stay corrupt, spend all your monies on jewelries, fuq women and abandon them when they get pregnant, walk around with your pants on your ass, idolize rappers, claim hip-hop culture as your own, glorify going to prison, you are slave but you have no problems having guns to kill another black man.

Remain helpless and useless because you are descendants of slaves.

First of all, i'm a Nigerian, and the fact that one of your first statement is "What happened more than 400 years ago", yea, there's no need to even talk to you... That statement already loses all credibility of you knowing anything about history even in the last 50 years.

Derekmiles:


First of all, i'm a Nigerian, and the fact that one of your first statement is "What happened more than 400 years ago", yea, there's no need to even talk to you... That statement already loses all credibility of you knowing anything about history even in the last 50 years.

according to people like Sladem05, the poorest white retards are more intelligent than jay z, kanye, lebron,dangote,etc


according to him, all blacks including him are useless and lazy.


but trust the b@stard to deny the meaning of his garbage cuz he doesnt even know what he is saying .



he thinks calling it the truth makes it true


then the idiot says am accusing him of hate, does the idiot not know that using words like slave,lazy,barbaric,etc to describe an entire race is the dumbest thing to do?


like Sapasenator told the OP, black americans cant stand you too,


nonsenses and rubbishes


he thinks posting pro white /anti black links gives evidence



let him imbibe that shit on his robot if he can create one,ok

Derekmiles:


First of all, i'm a Nigerian, and the fact that one of your first statement is "What happened more than 400 years ago", yea, there's no need to even talk to you... That statement already loses all credibility of you knowing anything about history even in the last 50 years.

Oh am sorry,
You don't know what century your poor kinsmen were sold into slavery?

pryme:


Oh am sorry,
You don't know what century your poor kinsmen were sold into slavery?

And i guess that's were the story ended there right, in that century. Infact, what am i saying, you're just plain wrong, or maybe you're just trolling; in any case, you just sound stupid. 400 years ago would be 1624, the Mayflower would have just been about 4 years old by then, and you think that was when slavery occurred in the U.S, Wow... Like i said, i doubt you even know any history from the last 50 years, go watch something or Read (that will obviously be a first), and shut up.

Derekmiles:


And i guess that's were the story ended there right, in that century. Infact, what am i saying, you're just plain wrong, or maybe you're just trolling; in any case, you just sound stupid. 400 years ago would be 1624, the Mayflower would have just been about 4 years old by then, and you think that was when slavery occurred in the U.S, Wow... Like i said, i doubt you even know any history from the last 50 years, go watch something or Read (that will obviously be a first), and shut up.

After the Europeans started slavery, slaves were also sent to the Americas in the 1600s, and in English language, that is more than 400 years ago, or you don't know when your American White Supremacists started causing Black Americans trauma? Or did slavery start in the 1900s because for you there is no need to tell you slavery ended in the late 1800s, it never did, that's why Black people in the US are still oppressed.
So let's look at when the trauma started, are you saying it never started in the 1600s or you are trolling?