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kingxsamz:
Of course, Unicorns create. Do you have any problem with that?
I know it might seem like I'm joking but please take your meds.🙏🏾

You and this your appeal to hypocrisy fallacy🥱.

You can't dismiss the issue at hand, the existence of God; so you draw parallels with a unicorn insinuating that if God exists then he might as well be a unicorn or if God exists so does a unicorn!

As a result you also commit the straw man fallacy by misrepresenting the message passed across by "Dtruthspeaker".

You and your brothers in arms are all the same!

So far with what have seen your goalpost has changed from God to bible to historical validity of the bible or arguments that you can use to dismiss the bible and as result dismiss God.

But even that is fallacious.
Committing ad hominems here and there attacking the person of God in the form of the book, his word.

But with what; your own logical premise where you take your intellect👀 as the ultimate source of authority thereby leading to circular reasoning.

You whole lot just keep committing these flaws! 🤧

jaephoenix:
1. This is how you know somebody that is not only cretarded but biased.
Enuma Elish is very articulated and concise, even though initially recorded in tablets.
Your bible creation storyline is so bleeped up I don't even know where to start. First error was that they said yhwh made day and night when there were no sun to demarcate day and night. Not only that, the creation story in chapter 1 is different from chapter 2. I can go on and on about the clusterfuck that is the Genesis creation story, never mind the whole bible.
2. Same Israel he allowed to be captured and plundered. Nice one
3. Of course you don't expect them to copy verbatim. They would make minor changes in the narrative to make it look different but its the same shit

See how you disgrace yourself. Many times have we pointed out this your so called contradictions and watch you move post to yet another stupid thinking you had when you could not answer, yet, your child madness is never cured.

i have always said it that God makes atheists mad and you and kingxamz verily confirm it.

Gabrielshow24:
So far with what have seen your goalpost has changed from God to bible to historical validity of the bible or arguments that you can use to dismiss the bible and as result dismiss God.

But even that is fallacious.
Committing ad hominems here and there attacking the person of God in the form of the book, his word.

But with what; your own logical premise where you take your intellect👀 as the ultimate source of authority thereby leading to circular reasoning.

You whole lot just keep committing these flaws! 🤧

That is how they keep moving post when they can not counter!

As the bible Said, atheists are truly foolish and one of the most stupid people in the world next gen z

And that is why this thread i very very Apt!

Gabrielshow24:
You and this your appeal to hypocrisy fallacy🥱.

[b]You can't dismiss the issue at hand, the existence of God; so you draw parallels [/b]with a unicorn insinuating that if God exists then he might as well be a unicorn or if God exists so does a unicorn!

As a result you also commit the straw man fallacy by misrepresenting the message passed across by "Dtruthspeaker".

You and your brothers in arms are all the same!

Exactly!

Fallacy of off points/ tu quoque/compariing apples with oranges etc

Atheistic arguments drown in.fallacies and twistings and when you catch them, the next thing you will see is that they would either start insalting you or start playing mad as Kingzams has done.

LordReed:
You must be talking about yourself because I wasn't the one flip flopping. I insisted that your god heal amputees while you jumped from its for believers to nonbelievers to faithful to Israelites and back again. LoLz.

He never PROMISED you healing!

MaxInDHouse:
He never PROMISED you healing!

According to you it wasn't promised to the Phoenecian woman either yet Jesus purportedly healed her. LoLz.

FxMasterz:
What claim did I make please?

That your godhas healed amputees.

LordReed:
That your godhas healed amputees.

I don't have a god. I made no such claims.

Gabrielshow24:
Why do you use we?
Oh, 😂You and sonmya.
What a legendary duo!

You will not only find dele giwa you will also trace the Caesar's and the so called "Alexander the great".

You can see the shortcomings of your logic!
Perhaps you can trace Genghis Khan.

It's simpler when the person is perhaps in the same generation as you but when it starts becoming centuries you see the difficult ledge you have put on your heads!

You have exemplified the method that you will use by going to house(dele's house👀) speaking to his children and his wife.

I implore you to use this self same method for Caesar, Cleopatra, Genghis Khan and Jesus amidst others.

You mean there are no eye witness narrative about Jesus...somebody who actually saw him and wrote something down even if he did not believe in him....
The truth is that there is none. The stories we have came after the nicean council..why?
It was plato that suggested a dual aspect of God. Then it became three in the time of Justin Martyr .
Here is what Justin Martyr has to say about Jesus...

"And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter:"

So it's all myths...not real

LordReed:
According to you it wasn't promised to the Phoenecian woman either yet Jesus purportedly healed her. LoLz.

Yeah, after PESTERING him!

FxMasterz:
I don't have a god. I made no such claims.

Yes you did. I said:

LordReed:
The comedian here is you. Show me evidence of your god healing amputees instead you start waffling all sorts.

Yeah, if ever your god ever manages to pull his head out of his arse to heal an amputee I wouldn't be an atheist. But we both know that is never going to happen but you just happen to like lying to yourself.

Your response:

FxMasterz:
It has happened times without number. It only never happened in your head. Go make indepth research and stop reading the wrong books and articles.

I don't have any reason to convince you or prove anything to you. Who cares whether you remain an atheist or a dog? Who are you by the way?

So you are the liar you are accusing other people of.

MaxInDHouse:
Yeah, after PESTERING him!

Just like the people pestering today to heal amputees. LoLz.

LordReed:
Yes you did. I said:



Your response:


So you are the liar you are accusing other people of.

You're the liar guy. Tell me where I claimed I have a god!

sonmvayina:
You mean there are no eye witness narrative about Jesus...somebody who actually saw him and wrote something down even if he did not believe in him....
The truth is that there is none. The stories we have came after the nicean council..why?
It was plato that suggested a dual aspect of God. Then it became three in the time of Justin Martyr .
Here is what Justin Martyr has to say about Jesus...

"And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter:"

So it's all myths...not real

What then are the four gospel books?
Or the recorded history by Tacitus, Josephus and the likes 👀?
Are you this deluded? 🤧

As regarding you quoting Justin, you quote him off point!

What's the core of the message being passed?

Thirdly, most of the gospel books predates the Nicene council.

It was after the council that they began to standardize the books!

Once again stop saying trash!

Gabrielshow24:
It's my personal bias to debate mathematicians instead of you lot.
I find our conversations rather boring and repetitive with huge leaps and assumptions flying here and there.

If you feel offended, I understand it's not everybody that has the stomach to study mathematics in uni talk less of owning higher degrees in it!

I apologize if it sounds belittling but one thing you must have inferred from me is that I call a spade a spade!

I don't mince word if it's logical enough then it's true.
I don't beat around the bush, I tell you straight there is no scientific basis for this.
But it doesn't limit the theoretical capacity of an infinite God!

Nah..

It is just to teach us that God creates and God destroys....which is echoed by Isaiah in 45:7.
A myth is a myth...

Moreover, the Torah was written by Ezra when they returned home from the Babylonian exile. The Torah is still about the two brothers Ea/Enki (Jacob) and Enlil(Esau)...

No biggie

Gabrielshow24:
You and this your appeal to hypocrisy fallacy🥱.

You can't dismiss the issue at hand, the existence of God; so you draw parallels with a unicorn insinuating that if God exists then he might as well be a unicorn or if God exists so does a unicorn!

As a result you also commit the straw man fallacy by misrepresenting the message passed across by "Dtruthspeaker".

You and your brothers in arms are all the same!

No bro, you got it wrong. You believe in a creator called god, I believe in a creator called Unicorn. It's that simple. There's enough room for both of our imaginations to thrive.

sonmvayina:
Nah..

It is just to teach us that God creates and God destroys....which is echoed by Isaiah in 45:7.
A myth is a myth...

Moreover, the Torah was written by Ezra when they returned home from the Babylonian exile. The Torah is still about the two brothers Ea/Enki (Jacob) and Enlil(Esau)...

No biggie

You said the Torah is about two brothers the burden of proof is on you to show it.

Show that Jacob and Esau are indeed Enki and Enlil.

So with all the burden of proof you have been asked to provide, you have brought none!

Let's see how this one plays out👀

kingxsamz:
No bro, you got it wrong. You believe in a creator called god, I believe in a creator called Unicorn. It's that simple. There's enough room for both of our imaginations to thrive.

Is this statement not evidence to the fallacy you are committing? 👀

You even had the guts to say/start with "No"
When you ended up reiterating the same thing😂

FxMasterz:
I don't have a god. I made no such claims.

Bro, rest. You're a Christian. No dey pretend.⤵️

FxMasterz:
Those of us who are in Christ Jesus exercise authority over Satan and his horses of filthy demons today. Our authority will be fully restored when the Lord Jesus finally restitutes all things.

kingxsamz:
Bro, rest. You're a Christian. No dey pretend.⤵️

There's no Christian that has a god.

FxMasterz:
There's no Christian that has a god.

Okay na, what do they have?

sonmvayina:
Nah..

It is just to teach us that God creates and God destroys....which is echoed by Isaiah in 45:7.
A myth is a myth...

Moreover, the Torah was written by Ezra when they returned home from the Babylonian exile. The Torah is still about the two brothers Ea/Enki (Jacob) and Enlil(Esau)...

No biggie

Stop with the lies, Ezra didn't write Torah he only recompiled it!

kingxsamz:
Okay na, what do they have?

God🙃

Gabrielshow24:
Is this statement not evidence to the fallacy you are committing? 👀

You even had the guts to say/start with "No"
When you ended up reiterating the same thing😂

No bro, you're not making any sense.
The OP said Atheists are irrational for not believing in a creator called god, and I told him my own version of a creator is a Unicorn, which I know he disagrees with. It's that simple, you can repeat yourself 50 times bro, it's still going to be the same response.
This is me putting up my delusion with his, so allow.

Gabrielshow24:
God🙃

Okay, so now what?

kingxsamz:
No bro, you're not making any sense.
The OP said Atheists are irrational for not believing in a creator called god, and I told him my own version of a creator is a Unicorn, which I know he disagrees with. It's that simple, you can repeat yourself 50 times bro, it's still going to be the same response.
This is me putting up my delusion with his, so allow.

You are the one not getting me.
I understand what you are trying to do.
But it's also a well known FALLACY!

you in no wise addressed the matter at hand but are instead pleading to hypocrisy!

So yeah, I know what am saying but it seems you don't understand the logical flaws you are committing.

Educate yourself then you will see how flawed your reasoning is!

Also once again, whether your creator is a unicorn or not, you have indirectly conceded from your initial stance!

So current your logical position no longer warrants the term Atheist.

This is also another implication of your statement!

You didn't disprove op, you invariably invalidated yourself to prove some misplaced point!

kingxsamz:
Okay, so now what?

You tell me👀?

Gabrielshow24:
You tell me👀?

It wasn't for you, yet you're the one who responded, so what now?

Gabrielshow24:
Also once again, whether your creator is a unicorn or not, you have indirectly conceded from your initial stance!

So current your logical position no longer warrants the term Atheist.

This is also another implication of your statement!

You didn't disprove op, you invariably invalidated yourself to prove some misplaced point!

Yes, I'm not an atheist. I believe in a Unicorn creator. And anyone who rejects such belief is an irrational human being with blind faith.

Gabrielshow24:
What then are the four gospel books?
Or the recorded history by Tacitus, Josephus and the likes 👀?
Are you this deluded? 🤧

As regarding you quoting Justin, you quote him off point!

What's the core of the message being passed?

Thirdly, most of the gospel books predates the Nicene council.

It was after the council that they began to standardize the books!

Once again stop saying trash!

The gospel are written in the third person and the anonymous writers does not know anybody in the story they are telling. They did not say they believe the story....Hallmark of a fiction.
Tacitus was talking about chrestians ie about a cult of isis and serapis (well which later metamorphosed to Mary and Jesus.) The cult was predominantly Greek as it was created by Ptolemy 1 soter.As for Josephus, everybody knows it is a forgery by Eusebius who was the first to quote from it. So all your sources fall flat.
Justin was writing a response to the Romans who saw the religion as being riddled with lies and ritual. He told them that Jesus is not different from the sons of Jupiter... Hercules and co.

Really, which book predates Nicea? You need to do a research on the church fathers and forgery. They where like table and tennis.

Remember the books where copied by hands. When a certain German invented the printing press, cardinal Worsley (he was mediator between Rome and London during the reformation era ) is on record to have said "if we don't destroy this invention now, this invention will one day destroy us"...you know what that means.
A certain pope (I think pius x ) was heard on an Easter dinner to say "This myth of Christ has been beneficial to us and our predicessors...