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Wande22:
Don't distract AlexReports

Na where man dey see food, na im where he dey chop (like Naija-Cover dey talk)

Nahunger:


And they put this on the front page or nairaland to feel good about themselves.

Lol.
I'm sure no one on this forum give a flying fvck about them and their unknown social gathering 😂

"Curse of the Black Brain" 🧠


Meanwhile note

it is only a Nigerian girl you will see preparing for marriage and she only has #5k or less in her account.
With a mind blowing milage!!

It is only a Nigerian girl that knows what she deserves, but has 0 account balance, no job and her parents can't even afford to give her what she thinks she deserves.

It is only a Nigerian girl that believe what she deserves should be funded by a man's pocket.

Very delusional lot.

Hahaha your jealousy and bad belle is very amusing

Unlimitedwords:
Celebrations As Abuja Social Club 36 Pals Development Initiatives Marks End Of Year Amidst Fanfare


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnuniZH5t4A?si=rgzNYWBIm0GebqeE

A social club, 36 Pals Development Initiatives has officially closed its activities for the year amidst catalogue of achievements in the last 12 months aimed at touching the lives of individuals and communities, ABUJAPRESS reports.

The end of year gathering at Grand Cubana hotel in Abuja tagged "Black Tie Event" was an opportunity for members of the club to meet and review the activities of the year and chart new frontiers that will help in improving the welfare of members as well as impact individuals.

In his welcome address, Chairman of the Initiatives, Amb. Victor Ita Okon who is the Chairman/CEO Wrightlinks Group of Nigeria expressed gratitude to members for their dedication and selflessness towards making the group a model among equals.

He said despite the economic challenges in the country, the Initiative was able to embark some impactful projects in order to add value and raise the living standard of benefitting communities.

He expressed optimism that the incoming year will present opportunity for greater achievements for both the club members those in need.

Also at the event, financial expert and banker, Dr. Daniel Oniko was brought in to speak on mental health and the need for people to go on a regular medical check to ensure they are mentally sound.

There was cutting cake and also counselling which centered on marriage and why couples should develop a more closer communication and create adequate family time. It was advised that such times make marital unions stronger and bonding becomes more closer.

To make this practical, couples were invited to showcase their dancing skills with their spouses on stage, which witness a humongous fun.

A prominent executive member and Chief Operating Officer Of Grand Cubana hotel, Dr. Omoaefe Ejere who coordinated the hosting of the dinner reception applauded members of the Club for standing out in their respective endeavours throughout the year.

Abuja based PR practitioner, Alex Nwankwo, Emeka Nwugha and others were among those invited for the end of year party.

According ABUJAPRESS, Members of the club who were also presented with certificates, unilaterally agreed to put energy together to make it more unified and bigger in all fronts.

There was so much to eat and drink for every guest that came.

https://www.abujapress.com/2024/12/celebrations-as-abuja-social-club-36.html

Unlimitedwords:
Celebrations As Abuja Social Club 36 Pals Development Initiatives Marks End Of Year Amidst Fanfare


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnuniZH5t4A?si=rgzNYWBIm0GebqeE

A social club, 36 Pals Development Initiatives has officially closed its activities for the year amidst catalogue of achievements in the last 12 months aimed at touching the lives of individuals and communities, ABUJAPRESS reports.

The end of year gathering at Grand Cubana hotel in Abuja tagged "Black Tie Event" was an opportunity for members of the club to meet and review the activities of the year and chart new frontiers that will help in improving the welfare of members as well as impact individuals.

In his welcome address, Chairman of the Initiatives, Amb. Victor Ita Okon who is the Chairman/CEO Wrightlinks Group of Nigeria expressed gratitude to members for their dedication and selflessness towards making the group a model among equals.

He said despite the economic challenges in the country, the Initiative was able to embark some impactful projects in order to add value and raise the living standard of benefitting communities.

He expressed optimism that the incoming year will present opportunity for greater achievements for both the club members those in need.

Also at the event, financial expert and banker, Dr. Daniel Oniko was brought in to speak on mental health and the need for people to go on a regular medical check to ensure they are mentally sound.

There was cutting cake and also counselling which centered on marriage and why couples should develop a more closer communication and create adequate family time. It was advised that such times make marital unions stronger and bonding becomes more closer.

To make this practical, couples were invited to showcase their dancing skills with their spouses on stage, which witness a humongous fun.

A prominent executive member and Chief Operating Officer Of Grand Cubana hotel, Dr. Omoaefe Ejere who coordinated the hosting of the dinner reception applauded members of the Club for standing out in their respective endeavours throughout the year.

Abuja based PR practitioner, Alex Nwankwo, Emeka Nwugha and others were among those invited for the end of year party.

According ABUJAPRESS, Members of the club who were also presented with certificates, unilaterally agreed to put energy together to make it more unified and bigger in all fronts.

There was so much to eat and drink for every guest that came.

https://www.abujapress.com/2024/12/celebrations-as-abuja-social-club-36.html

Nahunger:


Meanwhile note

it is only a Nigerian girl you will see preparing for marriage and she only has #5k or less in her account.
With a mind blowing milage!!

It is only a Nigerian girl that knows what she deserves, but has 0 account balance, no job and her parents can't even afford to give her what she thinks she deserves.

It is only a Nigerian girl that believe what she deserves should be funded by a man's pocket.

Very delusional lot.

Dvea:
False it's a tradition that has spanned years across the world and to be fair it's women getting careers that changed that.

As little as 20 years ago even in Nigeria women were not required to have money or even hold money. Independence and the financial freedom men enjoy was not a part of women. So if women could neither work or hold money why in heavens name would you think they would have money for weddings or anything at all.

Traditionally a man had the money and provided everything for his wife and women simply took care of the home with what they were given.

You making it seem like women choose to not have money before marriage is crazy considering that the African culture still says a woman having too much money isn't good.


The women of today who still have this mentality are women raised and brought up by a culture that told that having money or being educated isn't their job. You can't feed a generation of people with one story and because the economy changed you expect them to somehow not produce or live the story they have been feed.

Get angry at the culture that raised women to be financially dependent on men and not on the women who are living the lives they were thought to live.

If a woman today doesn't have money before wedding and is going forth, check well even the man is in support because as a man he is the one that should have money not the women. Check the culture and upbringing. Even when women are told to be content with what their husbands make the story is simply to use and manage what he has not to go out and make more.

Why do you think modern day women activities are screaming financial independence for women, because that's not the cultural story for women.

Dvea:
False it's a tradition that has spanned years across the world and to be fair it's women getting careers that changed that.

As little as 20 years ago even in Nigeria women were not required to have money or even hold money. Independence and the financial freedom men enjoy was not a part of women. So if women could neither work or hold money why in heavens name would you think they would have money for weddings or anything at all.

Traditionally a man had the money and provided everything for his wife and women simply took care of the home with what they were given.

You making it seem like women choose to not have money before marriage is crazy considering that the African culture still says a woman having too much money isn't good.


The women of today who still have this mentality are women raised and brought up by a culture that told that having money or being educated isn't their job. You can't feed a generation of people with one story and because the economy changed you expect them to somehow not produce or live the story they have been feed.

Get angry at the culture that raised women to be financially dependent on men and not on the women who are living the lives they were thought to live.

If a woman today doesn't have money before wedding and is going forth, check well even the man is in support because as a man he is the one that should have money not the women. Check the culture and upbringing. Even when women are told to be content with what their husbands make the story is simply to use and manage what he has not to go out and make more.

Why do you think modern day women activities are screaming financial independence for women, because that's not the cultural story for women.

Nahunger:
We are no longer in the traditional era, we are in modern times when a modern woman still living and eating her parents food will call a man living in a one room apartment broke and poor.


There is nothing traditional about a modern woman hiding under the guise of being traditional.
Most of this modernist could their evil intentions with the cloak of being traditional only to pounce and destroy the lives of an unsuspecting man.

My message is to enlighten this innocent men who lack the knowledge how to decipher this wolves disguising as moral, upright women who are only out to prey on their soul.

Countless of times, this innocent men will invest on these wolves only for them to turn back and marry a someone with a higher class than their sponsors.

We live in a modern time and there is nothing nice about the modern women, you must deal with them intentionally or get drown in a pool of destruction.

Remember we have agencies like..
1. Women rights
2. Ministry of women affairs
3. NGO's for GBV
Tons of agencies but not a single one created to protect men.

My advice to all men, look before your leap, once you leap, no saving you.

Dvea:
One. Modern women of today want modern men that's the fact Any woman looking for a man to foot all her bills while doing nothing is a full traditional woman with traditional mentality and most of the time they go for their fellow traditional men. But I acknowledge your claim that some women want to be traditional but are going after men who'd rather live a more modern life. The same situation though you can find in many men who are traditional but rather than go for traditional women they go after modern women and try to break them by having them stop working or pushing them to trading or teaching.

I firm stand by the fact that traditional people go for fellow traditional people and modern people go for modern people.

But from my own experience it's mot the case and many men who I have told to go for women who want to be full time home makers rather than getting angry at a lady for refusing to give up her career say the same thing to me - those traditional women are gold diggers, but modern ones are too open eye and you just have to tame them.

My problem with men of today especially those who want to be traditional is they want to eat their cake and have it. But enough said on that aspect.

The problem with those who want modern women is they don't want to be modern men also. Let's be fact now the term we hear is working class wives right but are men willing to be domesticated husbands?

You want a woman to do 100 percent of her job as a wife and mother and then a percentage of yours even if it's 20 percent of your job by providing financially. But are you willing to give back that 20 percent in house chores? Are you willing to become domesticated and actually assist in the home?

Will you help her cook, will you watch the kids while she does other things, will you clean, will you be willing to get home first and get the house ready because you closed early for the day, will you be willing to get up early to assist to prepare the kids for school and take the time to pick them up and settle them down at home because your wife is busy? These are questions that happen every day and most men don't want that. It's an ego thing so it's important to them to maintain the oga status.

Do you know why there are so many support systems for women, because the world has always or at least mostly been favorable for men. Men are encouraged to be financially independent and no matter what you say, it is only the when you have money that you cna have choice and say. When you take away the ability of a man to make money you make him a slave under you or at least inferior to you. That has always been the case for women they have long been made inferior to men by limiting their ability to male money and have a choice. That's why agencies now are trying to empower women with education and skills and jobs. That way she can be self sufficient, make a name for herself and more.

Let's be frank 80 percent of these agencies for men and women are established to help women in poverty. When a woman is financially fit she can take care of her health or even go to the hospitals to get the right health education and care, when she is financially fit she can leave an abusive situation, she doesn't have to get married to a man 5 times her age, she doesn't have to die from child birth etc. The core problem for women has always been the same thing, women have not money and as such have had very little say or support.


Now going to women who have nothing nd still demand more, the problem lies in how we were raised. In all fairness it's also how men have been raised. Men were raised to know they she to provide for their family, women were not raised that way, they were thought to care for the home. The most financial training a woman got was how to manage whatever your husband gives you.

Now a girl has been told all you need is to look good, cook well, clean well and be pretty and submissive. This same girl has seen the world and the good thing and decides that I have everything I've been told I need, and this is what I want. That means I need a man who has the money to provide what I want while I give him what I have been told to have. And we see it play with super wealthy men, they go for the beauty queen's half their age. They don't go for their age mates, they go for women who ar young enough to be their kid but is pretty and all.

We see it also in the side chick's men have. They are much more pretty and spend more on themselves than the wife can do. When a woman see how another woman's husband is going after a girl who is wearing lace wig of 500k and using body cream of 50k, of course to keep her home as she has been told is her duty she'll start spending that much to keep said home.

Even the fashion industry has seen that and capitalised on that. They know women are ready to do anything to look good be it for themselves or for a husband or man and will charge crazy amounts. And women will still go.

The culture raised women to value material things form men because she has long been told a man has the money and not her.

When you create a system like this, there is no way you won't expect it to spiral farther. The issue is how we were raised. If a husband and wife come out and say that the wife got a job 2 times both their salary in another state and they decided to relocate and the husband decides to become a stay at home dad or a part time worker to watch the kids, I can bet you that half the people who'll comment will call him a simp or tell him that his wife will soon use his as a house boy. Why because culture has thought us that a man must make the money not the woman. So even if your wife has a better career success than you, you'll find ways to limit her to make you feel better about yourself.



That being said in today's world men and women need to be cautious in their dealings and get to the point where both stop getting limited by the culture of who has to be the breadwinner. If the woman has a better career support it, if both of you are working then both of you must be helping domestically or at least get maids to help. And if you are getting those maid the man needs to hold himself to not sleep with them.

Nahunger:
I appreciate your input, well thought off and full of priceless information.

Truth is you have muddled the whole thing up, being marriage either as a traditional man or modern man, it's is duty and obligations to help each other out with home chores, school kids running and other activities.

The point is times have changed we are now in a global age, there is nothing like a village girl or traditional brought up lady, you will agree with me that exposure spreads even to any remote village without electricity in your own state or local government.

A man with money wants to marry a wife and have a home, but a woman with money will tell you they don't need a man.

For example when was the last time you saw a wealthy or well to do lady marry a guy lower than her class??

You need to understand the issue is both gender and the supposed traditional women have one thing in common ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY.

Generally, we have a trend of women who want it all and don't want to give anything in return.

Excuse me sir, a working class woman either modern or traditional will tell you "Your money is our money while "My money is my money"


I have heard of a story of a woman who was hospitalized for months in the hospital, the man spent all he had, they doctors needed #15k fuse blood into this woman, the husband was running around until she died, while they were processing the body they found #45k on this woman..

All I am advocating for is for men to marry women who will make their life easy.

Please look around you today, do a random check on the girls you meet day in and day out you will understand we are in a troubling times.

You hear of Genz baddies!!

Dvea:
The first thing I want to state is that much if what we know and see is a product of our environment. From my environment what I have seen us women giving their all and seeing men treat them as replaceable. You will agree with me that there a many cases of women struggling with their husbands to build businesses only for him to dump her for not being fine or classy.

Now I repeat. As much as civilisation and modernisation has come, most of the women in their 20s and above today were raised very traditionally. I can still remember my father saying is this how you'll cook in your husbands house. Not once was there a talk about making money. It was all domestic. Sure many wine today are being much more realistic and taking on financial empowerment but you can't expect to raise generations of people to think they don't need to make money or a generation of men who think they only need to make money and not expect to see problems.

You say its the sensible thing to do for a man to support at home but there are many men who see that as undermining their manliness. Why because they were raised and invited with the idea that domestic work is a woman's thing and they are men. Maybe your environment is filled with more men who are reasonable but that's not the case always. I've seen both domesticated husbands and those who see holding their kids in public as a insult to them.

You are right that there are now many women who are questioning why they need marriage if they can foot their bills. Of you ask, many of them were raised in homes where they clelary saw their mothers slave away under their fathers and they have decided its just not worth it. The only reason their mothers stayed was culture and finance. There women don't care for culture anymore and have the finance now so there isn't any need for them to have a man dictate their lives and treat them as second class. Of course many of these women end up marrying as soon as they find men who treat them as important not secondary. I have seen that happen.

For men obviously that's all they have been raised to do. Make money, marry, raise a family. That's the most traditional thing any man is expected to do. What is strange is men refusing to marry or staying unmarried by choice.

Entitlement mentality is everywhere in men and women and either way that's wrong. Marriage should be a union and partnership. Money brought in should be for all, and the success of one is the success of all.

That being said and in no way is this a justification as that woman in your example has a lot of answering to do but I have also heard of women giving all they have to assist in building a home for the family or in building a business in the man's name only to have him send her away penniless.

If I remember reading correctly the current alimony we have today originated in ancient Rome or Greece my memory is unclear which but the idea was to give financial support to the party who supported the other in non financial capacities. Basically wives who stayed home and cared for the home as their husbands worked hard to make money. The law was passed because many men would send their wives out penniless after decades of marriage only to marry new women who they were interested in. Of course this law was for anyone at all men or women but since the situation then was typically women staying at home alimony became synomymous to a woman's benefit. But the point is for years centuries really women have gotten the shorter end of the stick even if they were good women and many laws and support groups began to help them not be so short changed.

I once heard someone say that in recent years men have started feeling the pains of what women have felt for centuries in marriage and relationships and unlike women who endured it and kept it under wrap, men can't and have been making so much noise one would think this is a new thing that has never happened before.

I still say that your environment or surrounding defines how you see life but as much as I'm trying to understand where men are coming from, I also have stories and facts that have played out to show that many men can be frustrating and a lot of marriages definitely not all or possibly not even most but a lot are not very favorable to women in terms of how much work each party puts in.

Nahunger:
Life is like two sides of a coin.

I have seen women destroy good men.
I have seen women abandon a man who genuinely love them for one who has money and treats them like crap.

I have heard women say it's better to cry in a Lamborghini than to be happy in a keke napep.

I have seen men train women to school only for the women to end up marrying their lecturers or find a man abroad.


You saying men want to stay single by choice is strange is because you have not experienced the other side of the coin.

You might be fortunate and have a great woman bedside you, don't think every woman out there is like yours.

I know you are a woman advocate from your strong defence of women's short comings, I am yet sure you wouldn't want your kids or siblings to encounter such women deep in your heart.

A man who struggles with a women will spoil her when he gets rich, let me eligten you, "BEING WITH A MAN WHEN HE IS BROKE IS DIFFERENT FROM SUPPORTING HIM TO GROW"

Those women whose husband left them, most cases contributed nothing to his growth but because men bottle things up ADVOCATES FOR WOMEN swallow every lie they dish out hook, line and sinker.

Sir, we are in modern times, you talked about how your dad trained your sister, ordinarily if I guess right you are above 35, you come from a generation where your teachers, neighbours, uncles can correct you.

We are now in a time where a classroom teacher, neighbour or relatives dare not scold someone's ward.

You must understand that your concept of traditional women is now totally obsolete!!

You really need to step out of your comfort zone and experience the world.

Dvea:
Maybe you didn't notice but I am a woman in my mid 20s and I'm telling you the reality I see. Like I said your environment has shaped you and mine also. From my environment I have seen good women with bright futures be destroyed by men who are afraid of a successful woman. Only last year, I met a women I'd known in passing and asked why she had quit her job she said her husband told her to that he didn't like her working there. She was contemplating teaching. This woman wasn't doing a fantastic job in the first place but it had potential for growth.

The other one I heard recently was a man who knowing that the woman he was about to marry was studying medicine asked her to quit working as a doctor because he was making enough for both of them. She agreed out of family and cultural push. 14 years now and the man is forcing her back to medicine because his business crashed. She was lamenting because now he's blaming her for his downfall and asking her to see her mates who are doing well as doctors. But she can't go back. She didn't practice for 14 years.

These are not two isolated cases. I've seen women leave lucrative careers because of their husbands and then end up finding out that he cheated on her with a working class lady. As I said you are speaking from your own view where you have seen men be ruined by women but I'm also telling you that I've seen good women be broken by men. Successful women losing themselves completely because of a husband. That's why many young girls don't see a reason why they need to give up on themselves or women now are more unwilling to be enduring wives because the ones they saw did not end well.

One that was very dear to me and I was happy for her was a woman my mom knew she married, lived as a house wife couldn't even buy good clothes, then my mom sold turkey wears, this woman could barely afford anything good. Kept saying her husband didn't have enough. At some point even he started building a house and she completely stopped buying clothes then if I remember. Eventually brought a girl ten years younger than her. He said the woman was much more presentable for him. He didn't think she'd be able to leave cause she'd been a house wife all her life. Friends rallied for her and helped her learn a skill, she left the house with her 4 kids and I'm not joking 1 year and she looked completely different. I remember her mentioning that she was at peace and she didn't have to walk on egg shells for fear of using money she wasn't making.

Like I told you financial empowerment for women began because women were at greater risk of abuse from their spouses and from marriage. These agencies you see today for women and non for men is because men have always had it set for them. Its because women need the help and support not men. Men are raised to make money. They are raised to provide.

The fact that has been firmly confirmed in this modern age, is this marriages are not lasting anymore because women are unwilling to tolerate abuse physical, emotional, psychological, and financial. That's the plain truth. Mothers of old endured a lot because that's what culture told them. Let's be frank in the past men could send their wives packing if they so desired. Women were the ones who in oder to not be mocked had to endure and manage their home.

To tell you that women getting the short end of the stick in marriage for decades is a universal thing, research about south Korea and the divorce act. Women couldn't get a divorce in south Korea before it was a taboo culturally. Then at dome point in the late 1900s the government passed a law allowing anyone to get a divorce. The record I read from the original report by their government showed that on the first year hundreds of divorces were finalised and in that year and the next 10 or so years 80 percent of the people seeking a divorce were women over 60. Not new wives, mothers over 60 who had been married for decades.

Some of their reasons were in my opinion universal

Emotional abuse
Financial abuse
They had no peace even in their own home
In law issues
Cheating
Husbands treated them as second class

I get that as a man your idea is from a man's standpoint, but the fact is in all of history women have endured more in marriage and had to suck it up they were told its his right and just manage.

I mentioned this to someone in an older post here on nairaland. I read a chat of women in their 50s and above and I'm not sure what the discuss was but one of them mentioned that if wives treated husbands the way husbands treat wives, husbands would thing their wives hated them. And I'm not exaggerating all of them agreed with her.

Just to respond to your point about women choosing a rich man who treats them badly over a poor man who trades them good. The truth is fear. Why because there are way to many stories of women working together with their husbands in poverty not just sitting at home, but working together with them and he still abandons them when he makes money. One man even went viral last year for saying he is greatful for his wife who stood by him and supported him even financially when he had nothing. Now he'll take care of her first because he takes care of his side chick. He said that confidently like he was doing something fantastic and if I remember Mary Remi Njoku mentioned that situation like this is why young girls are unwilling to struggle with a man in the name of potential.

I have also come across working class ladies around my age who say they are not looking to struggle with anyone and no one should struggle with them. Let everyone make their money and meet each other when we are both made so no one feels cheated.

Also from past stories too, many women married to struggling men can't grow far because of fear of hurting his ego. One woman I worked with year ago told me while we worked that it's not that she can't find a good job in a big company but that since her husbands lucrative business crashed he's already on edge and since he was the major breadwinner in the past, he won't be happy having her providing. So she rather worked for minimum wage to keep body and soul while waiting for the man to find his feet. I think she tired getting one good job but he told her the timing was too much and who will watch the kids. This was a man who was at home o. Most of the time but he still expected his wife who was trying to salivate their condition by working to still be home to pick the kids and such. Last I heard she ended up settling for a teaching job but it's not like the man is back on his feet.

What you forget is that many men have a huge ego and this cultural need to be known as the provider. So they'll rather not have their women making to much money while they are struggling. The truth is why will a struggling man refuse to date or marry an established woman? Using the excuse that she will not respect me, when the girl is the one eager to marry. They'll rather go for someone lower than them. I've seen it play in real life with a relative.

And it still boils down to culture. Women are told to find a provider so they look for someone richer than them. Men are told to be the provider, so they look for women they can provide for usually someone less than them. That's the fact. One a few break the norm and can successfully maintain that break away from the norm. Because one of two things will happen

1. The man's ego will get to big and he'll begin taking everything as an insult since he isn't the one making the most money. Which is usually fuled by fiends and family mocking him.

Or

2. The woman gets tired of the expectation for her to still do all the traditional wifely role. For her if she is providing more and working more, he should be helping out more to even thing. Usually hers is a result of frustration and tiredness.

There are bad women and I admit it but you need to learn that there are bad men with entitlement mentality who think women are inferior to them, must bend to their will and must give up on their lives for them. We still have men in this day and age looking for unopinionated women or who avoid women with a masters degree and a PhD or who once they see a woman in high position or with a thriving business cannot fathom that she worked hard but conclude that a man must be behind or calling all working class women wayward. Both sets of people are bad no questions about it. But trust me when I say historically, men have had it good in marriage than women have and this present cry is because men are finally experiencing what women experienced in the past, which does not justify the wrong being done but it helps put you in perspective.

Anyway I always forget to thank you for also being civil with your responses.

Nahunger:
Honestly I didn't know I was texting with a women, I thought it was a matured man in his 60s or 50s.

Wow, sorry for that 😃😃😃

You said mid 20s, I must commend your maturity, good articulation, presentation and logical process.

You are very intelligent, well informed and I'm impressed 😁

I understand and agree with you about cultures that ties women down as slaves in the name of marriage and I agree their are terrible men out their in the world, I can't go into details but I was fathered by one.

My mom got 3 federal jobs but my dad stopped her and forced her to take a teaching job, you should know how things like this end.

Well, I for one want a career woman, who has dreams, ambitions and goal, I want to support her grow, I crave for a brilliant and intelligent woman.

I promised my children the best mom in the world, I am looking towards a Doctor or a Lawyer for marriage, if you have one you can recommend or if you are one, wouldn't mind to engage you in a serious conversation.

Generally, there are bad women and men, rather than capitalising on their short coming I rather learn the lessons and create a better experience.

Also, what tribe are you and from which state, let's start from here.

Only an intelligent woman can hold a conversation like you just did.
It's a pleasure meeting you 🤝

Dvea:
The seasonal issues have kept me away. Thankfully we have finally come to a middle ground.

You are not the first to think I'm more mature in the way I speak and usually my response is, life has thought me that and I am not looking to be a woman who can't hold her ground in this world on her own.

I sincerely don't know so many doctors and lawyers most are either entrepreneurs or in other cooperate employment. In terms of ones looking for a spouse, I'll have to ask around, many like I said are trying to become better than what they saw older women around them become.

Me. Absolutely not interested in marriage. I'm at a point where I'm finally getting momentum in my life and structure in my life and would like to establish that and take root before considering marriage. Personally and unless God says otherwise, I'm not looking for or eager for any romantic relationship for another 3 to 4 years. Business relationship and absolutely I'm your girl. You could call me greedy and materialistic but I came from a well off home and I want to be better than where my parents were. And personally I can't commit to myself and to another human being right at this point in my life.

That being said, I'd also like to maintain some form of privacy on social media if you don't mind, I've successfully kept my head somewhat low since I began using Nairaland. You can chat me up if you so desire but definitely not looking to speak about my self online.

Also Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year to You.

Nahunger:
We could text off this space if it's cool with you...
Compliments of the season from here

Dvea:
Sure you can find my number through my post or my email is in my signature. Or you can drop yours whatever works.