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MightySparrow:
Just mention one pentecostal pastor praying on weapons or for a country to win any battle not to talk of war.

Are members of Pentecostals in the military?
Do their pastors pray for them knowing the type of job they are doing?

Come on, it's like knowing fully well that someone is into Yahoo Yahoo yet your pastor is praying for such ones to succeed.

MaxInDHouse:
Are his members part of those voting for or against ambitious candidates in politics?
If yes then they are part of those causing the problems for politicians.
I don't know how old you were in the late 70s and early 80s here in Nigeria if you belong to an opposition political party you have automatically signed your own death warrant as your house and families could be burnt alive for it.
So whatever makes Kumuyi's members taking sides in politics makes them vulnerable to attacks by political thugs you are calling "TERRORISTS"!

So politicians are the islamists shey?
Have you considered Poland, Germany, Australia, struggle against islamists, is it because they vote to choose their leader?

So you want to say it serves Kumuyi right for his members to be killed by violent Islamic extremists?

MightySparrow:
So politicians are the islamists shey?
Have you considered Poland, Germany, Australia, struggle against islamists, is it because they vote to choose their leader? So you want to say it serves Kumuyi right for his members to be killed by violent Islamic extremists?

I was once a Muslim remember?

So i know categorically that there is no islamist group fighting for religion in the real sense it's all about politics.
If it's about RELIGION then why the war between Iraq and Iran (both Islamic countries) that lasted for decades?
Why fractions (Muslim groups) fighting against themselves?
Poland, Germany, Australia all have their political warriors such only dies down in places where the rulers are in the same cult but once there's fractions they will look for means to curb the increase of their oppositions that's when religion or tribalism or racism comes to play!

MaxInDHouse:
I was once a Muslim remember?

So i know categorically that there is no islamist group fighting for religion in the real sense it's all about politics.
If it's about RELIGION then why the war between Iraq and Iran (both Islamic countries) that lasted for decades?
Why fractions (Muslim groups) fighting against themselves?
Poland, Germany, Australia all have their political warriors such only dies down in places where the rulers are in the same cult but once there's fractions they will look for means to curb the increase of their oppositions that's when religion or tribalism or racism comes to play!

In one world Jehovah's Witnesses are not killed because they are not politicians..

MightySparrow:
In one world Jehovah's Witnesses are not killed because they are not politicians..

We are not the TARGET of political thugs!
They are fighting their opponents just as you people supports war against those you view as enemies so when they realize our stand most times they feel remorse hurting a JW because we are not against their government but killing you people whom they know as those opposing their government they strongly believe they are winning!

There are Jehovah's Witnesses in Islamic nations preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom, islamists finds it really difficult to believe we are part of Christendom because we neither shout in their streets nor use megaphones in our Kingdom Halls to say things contrary to their beliefs and most of them love making friends with us knowing we are peaceful people.
But when churchgoers enter their community first they will say they are going to heaven yet they will start voting against their choice of rulers so Muslims will keep aside their own differences and face whoever is against Islamic standard of rulership that's when they begin attacking the churches of Christendom!

MaxInDHouse:
We are not the TARGET of political thugs!
They are fighting their opponents just as you people supports war against those you view as enemies so when they realize our stand most times they feel remorse hurting a JW because we are not against their government but killing you people whom they know as those opposing their government they strongly believe they are winning!

Deeper Life are killed because of the leader's involvement in politics shey?

MightySparrow:
Deeper Life are killed because of the leader's involvement in politics shey?

YES!
Political thugs are sent after those going against their intentions so if Kumuyi says anything in support of any politician opposing party will start trailing members of his church knowing fully well that he controls their brains!

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Political thugs are sent after those going against their intentions so if Kumuyi says anything in support of any politician opposing party will start trailing members of his church knowing fully well that he controls their brains!

Is it because Kumuyi made a comment about election of Buhari in 2017, islamists killed his members in 2012?

Ẹ má bẹrù ọlọrun?

MightySparrow:
Is it because Kumuyi made a comment about election of Buhari in 2017, islamists killed his members in 2012?
Ẹ má bẹrù ọlọrun?

How are you using your brain nah?

Is it 2012 that Kumuyi began his church?

Political thugs know their oppositions by their teachings and the activities of their followers.
Do Deeperlife members participate in the electoral process?
If so political thugs knows them even before Kumuyi come out openly to speak in support of politicians, i only used the screenshot as proof that these people are into politics i'm not saying that's what triggered the killing of his members in 2012 the killers know those opposing their choice of rulers!

MaxInDHouse:
How are you using your brain nah?

Is it 2012 that Kumuyi began his church?

Political thugs know their oppositions by their teachings and the activities of their followers.
Do Deeperlife members participate in the electoral process?
If so political thugs knows them even before Kumuyi come out openly to speak in support of politicians, i only used the screenshot as proof that these people are into politics i'm not saying that's what triggered the killing of his members in 2012 the killers know those opposing their choice of rulers!

So it is a sin to elect leaders in a community

MightySparrow:
So it is a sin to elect leaders in a community

Who is God's chosen King for Christians?

Electing someone else as our choice in a world ruled by Satan means what? 1John 5:19

That's why Boko Haram and other terrorists are fighting and killing one another {Revelations 6:3-4} not religion!

MaxInDHouse:
Who is God's chosen King for Christians?

Electing someone else as our choice in a world ruled by Satan means what? 1John 5:19

That's why Boko Haram and other terrorists are fighting and killing one another {Revelations 6:3-4} not religion!

This is the age long delusion we have been talking about. In this life, men will always rule themselves. Mention a country, state, school, organization that it is God choosing their leaders. .



Your Governing Body is not either.

MightySparrow:
This is the age long delusion we have been talking about. In this life, men will always rule themselves. Mention a country, state, school, organization that it is God choosing their leaders. .
Your Governing Body is not either.

Satan is the world's overall ruler {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so whoever is partaking in this world s rulership is working under Satan! Luke 4:5-6

The Governing Body is ANOINTED by our God to direct the affairs of God's people throughout the earth today but they are not recognized by the world! Luke 12:32

MaxInDHouse:
Satan is the world's overall ruler {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so whoever is partaking in this world s rulership is working under Satan! Luke 4:5-6

The Governing Body is ANOINTED by our God to direct the affairs of God's people throughout the earth today but they are not recognized by the world! Luke 12:32

Who dis anointed Tony Morris when he was removed?

MightySparrow:
Who dis anointed Tony Morris when he was removed?

Does anointing means above error?

MaxInDHouse:
Does anointing means above error?

So all the errors and New Lights are because of anointing?


So man can remove the anointed of God.

When Oyedepo sacked unproductive, anointed pastors you didn't allow us to rest on this platform.

MightySparrow:
So all the errors and New Lights are because of anointing?

You don't know what error means.
The Governing Body is a BODY of anointed men so one of them could be reproved {Galatians 2:11-14} that does not disqualify the whole BODY.

MightySparrow:
So man can remove the anointed of God.

If Peter failed to accept discipline it could lead to his removal from the BODY but he always welcome discipline.

MightySparrow:
When Oyedepo sacked unproductive, anointed pastors you didn't allow us to rest on this platform.

Oyedepo is one man who owns his personal business not a BODY of anointed men so he employes, sacks and retire his workers!

MaxInDHouse:
Satan is the world's overall ruler {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so whoever is partaking in this world s rulership is working under Satan! Luke 4:5-6

The Governing Body is ANOINTED by our God to direct the affairs of God's people throughout the earth today but they are not recognized by the world! Luke 12:32

This is why I like you, you don't tell lies deliberately. You separated your god from the God of the Bible:

Rom.13.1 - For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
My own Jehovah anointed king over Syria, made Cyrus King, made Nebuchadnezzar king and still figuratively called them and their kingdoms beasts.

He rules and reigns over the affairs of men. It doesn't matter who and where, He allows who would reign and rule.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what error means.
The Governing Body is a BODY of anointed men so one of them could be reproved {Galatians 2:11-14} that does not disqualify the whole BODY.


If Peter failed to accept discipline it could lead to his removal from the BODY but he always welcome discipline.


Oyedepo is one man who owns his personal business not a BODY of anointed men so he employees, sacks and retire his workers!

So one anointed can remove another.

How do you know your GB are anointed by God?

MightySparrow:
This is why I like you, you don't tell lies deliberately. You separated your god from the God of the Bible:
Rom.13.1 - For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
My own Jehovah anointed king over Syria, made Cyrus King, made Nebuchadnezzar king and still figuratively called them and their kingdoms beasts.
He rules and reigns over the affairs of men. It doesn't matter who and where, He allows who would reign and rule.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. Matthew 11:12

From the days of John the baptist anyone who is partaking in the rulership of this world is directly working for Satan before then God anoints kings for them to work towards the arrival of His anointed King of kings (Christ) but from the very moment John the baptist began preparing the way for Christ there is no room for any faithful person to partake in this world's politics it's either you bow before Jesus and live your life in harmony with his teachings with the hope of ruling with him which makes you no part of the world's political system {John 17:14-16; 18:36} or you bow to Satan and become one of his agents! Luke 4:5-7

MightySparrow:
So one anointed can remove another.

This is why you need to humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jesus said:
“Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector" Matthew 18:15-17

Do notice that it's the CONGREGATION that will determine what happens to any erring one?
So a single individual can't remove any person rather it's the congregation as a BODY that can determine such things that's why your friends are saying evil things against the organization because they know that no single individual can judge them but the organization as a whole! 1Corinthians 5:13

MightySparrow:
How do you know your GB are anointed by God?

They have gathered millions of imperfect people throughout the earth, taught them what they discovered in the Bible, settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

As living WITNESSES {Act 1:8} of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} That's the FRUIT expected of Jesus' true disciples! Matthew 7:16-18

We are here

Maxindhouse come out, we your Master summon you to come out
We have come into your stronghold!

MrPresident1:
OK. We are making progress. So, in the context of the Law and commandments of God, it would mean what?

MrPresident1:
We are here
Maxindhouse come out, we your Master summon you to come out
We have come into your stronghold!

You are not the first neither can you be the last to beg for my attention on this forum:

MightySparrow:
I know it is paining maximumSide

MightySparrow:
What makes anything scientific is it's repeatability, universality, and timelessness. Our own God is proven to be true and trustworthy every time, everywhere, in every situation.
... letter killeth, it is the spirit that giveth live.
I pity people who believe that their own god is on holiday.
I believe in miracles.
Hallelujah.
CC: maximumSide

MightySparrow:
You should understand the position of Olukoya. He introduced prayer of enemies and no mercy to pentecostal arena. He doesn't believe in mercy and forgiveness.
Every enemy, real and perceived are to die by fire of hell or prison.
The poor choir leader has a wrong enemy. Only God can deliver him..
cc: maximumSide

In fact some couldn't hold themselves together so they have to set up threads in my name:

https://www.nairaland.com/7075625/maxindhouse-come-defend-watchtower-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/7423956/maxindhouse-why-did-jesus-allow

https://www.nairaland.com/7835507/exposition-jesus-ex-member-maxindhouses-orgarnisation
https://www.nairaland.com/7779034/maxindahouse-what-charms-did-see
https://www.nairaland.com/7696735/maxindhouse-organisations-community-vs-jewish
https://www.nairaland.com/7696756/maxindhouse-org-call-home-call
https://www.nairaland.com/7903820/maxindhouse-come-see-o-ten
https://www.nairaland.com/8225952/maxindhouse-why-does-oganisation-not
https://www.nairaland.com/8306598/escaping-maxindhouses-organisation

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

But it doesn't stop honest hearted and sincere individuals from acknowledging the gift of God's Holy Spirit in Maximus:

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

So my guy if you want to learn from me all you need to do is humble yourself i'm not more than just one single member out of millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth!

Me I am you Conqueror and Master

You attacked me and I defeated you and you ran away and I have come into your fortress to gloat and to sit on your head.

Now give your Master an answer

In the context of the Law and commandments of God, a revolt would mean what?

MaxInDHouse:
You are not the first neither can you be the last to beg for my attention on this forum:

In fact some couldn't hold themselves together so they have to set up threads in my name:

https://www.nairaland.com/7075625/maxindhouse-come-defend-watchtower-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/7423956/maxindhouse-why-did-jesus-allow

https://www.nairaland.com/7835507/exposition-jesus-ex-member-maxindhouses-orgarnisation
https://www.nairaland.com/7779034/maxindahouse-what-charms-did-see
https://www.nairaland.com/7696735/maxindhouse-organisations-community-vs-jewish
https://www.nairaland.com/7696756/maxindhouse-org-call-home-call
https://www.nairaland.com/7903820/maxindhouse-come-see-o-ten
https://www.nairaland.com/8225952/maxindhouse-why-does-oganisation-not
https://www.nairaland.com/8306598/escaping-maxindhouses-organisation

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

But it doesn't stop honest hearted and sincere individuals from acknowledging the gift of God's Holy Spirit in Maximus:

So my guy if you want to learn from me all you need to do is humble yourself i'm not more than just one single member out of millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth!

MrPresident1:
Me I am you Conqueror and Master
You attacked me and I defeated you and you ran away and I have come into your fortress to gloat and to sit on your head.
Now give your Master an answer
In the context of the Law and commandments of God, a revolt would mean what?

OK o!

MaxInDHouse:
The true God promised to unite faithful people of all the nations so that they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. They will not lift up sword against one another, nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4b Micah 4:3b

So the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} will affect the gathering of true believers {Matthew 7:16-18} and makes them stand out as different from all other religions! Matthew 5:14-16

Do you know any organization working towards this?

Surely it's God's Holy Spirit that's doing it not the imperfect humans gathered together! Zechariah 4:6

Several religious organizations teach pacifism and discourage or prohibit their members from engaging in war. Some of the most well-known groups include:


1. Quakers (Religious Society of Friends) – They are well known for their strong pacifist stance and have historically refused to bear arms.


2. Seventh-day Adventists (Historic Position) – While not universally pacifist, many Adventists have served as conscientious objectors, working as medics instead of soldiers.


3. Mennonites – They follow the Anabaptist tradition, which emphasizes nonviolence and a rejection of military service.


4. Amish – Like the Mennonites, they uphold a strict stance against violence and war.


5. Christadelphians – They believe in political neutrality and do not engage in military service.


6. Doukhobors – A Christian sect from Russia, known for their pacifist beliefs and refusal to serve in the military.

So not only JWs. I don't see that as any proof of God's backing anyway. But since that's your proof, these ones must also have God's spirit. Right?

Sand2022:
Several religious organizations teach pacifism and discourage or prohibit their members from engaging in war. Some of the most well-known groups include:
1. Quakers (Religious Society of Friends) – They are well known for their strong pacifist stance and have historically refused to bear arms.
2. Seventh-day Adventists (Historic Position) – While not universally pacifist, many Adventists have served as conscientious objectors, working as medics instead of soldiers.
3. Mennonites – They follow the Anabaptist tradition, which emphasizes nonviolence and a rejection of military service.
4. Amish – Like the Mennonites, they uphold a strict stance against violence and war.
5. Christadelphians – They believe in political neutrality and do not engage in military service.
6. Doukhobors – A Christian sect from Russia, known for their pacifist beliefs and refusal to serve in the military.
So not only JWs. I don't see that as any proof of God's backing anyway. But since that's your proof, these ones must also have God's spirit. Right?

Read the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 again:

*In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream.

*And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.

*He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

* It must be people who have come from all nations on planet earth!

* They must be studying the Bible with people around them apart from studying in their place of worship.

* They will use what they found in God's word to resolve their disparities peacefully among themselves divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone!

So Mr PIMO are those religions known in your village as preachers coming to disturb them for Bible study like Jehovah's Witnesses often does? Matthew 10:11-13

In the context of the Law and commandments of God, a revolt would mean what?

MaxInDHouse:
OK o!

Fulfillment of God's promises!

Psalms 46:9
Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

A global family of peace loving worshipers!

The gathering of Holy Ones where truth is dispensed for honest hearted people to gain wisdom!

false prophets are not true christians

1798

"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

jwfacts..com