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Anfieldboss:
Hello everyone,

Please, I need the advice of experienced people here.

I am an Internal Auditor with over 8 years of work experience. I have a Bachelor's and Master's degree in Electrical Engineering and a Chartered Accountant (ICAN Chartered). I am looking at migrating to Australia using the PR route. I am considering two options: Going through the Internal Auditor route (Assessing with VETASSESS) or going as a Cybersecurity Professional (Assessing with ACS as a Cybersecurity Governance professional). For the latter, I would need at least a certification in Cybersecurity (CISA), which I am already planning on writing the exams and getting the certification.

I was told by a friend who migrated to Australia via a Master's degree program, that the points for IT is very high, that I would need at least 95 points due to the competition in IT. He told me the competition for Internal Audit is not too high, but he doesn't think the profession is in high demand.

My concern with evaluating with VETASSESS is if my academic qualifications will be evaluated for Internal Audit since my degrees are in Engineering but I have solid experience in Internal Audit. And also if the profession is really in demand?

Please guys I need your advice. I actually would prefer going via the IT Audit path as that is my preferred career path and I am already working on getting the required certifications.But I am concerned with the high competition in IT.

Anfieldboss:
Hello everyone,

Please, I need the advice of experienced people here.

I am an Internal Auditor with over 8 years of work experience. I have a Bachelor's and Master's degree in Electrical Engineering and a Chartered Accountant (ICAN Chartered). I am looking at migrating to Australia using the PR route. I am considering two options: Going through the Internal Auditor route (Assessing with VETASSESS) or going as a Cybersecurity Professional (Assessing with ACS as a Cybersecurity Governance professional). For the latter, I would need at least a certification in Cybersecurity (CISA), which I am already planning on writing the exams and getting the certification.

I was told by a friend who migrated to Australia via a Master's degree program, that the points for IT is very high, that I would need at least 95 points due to the competition in IT. He told me the competition for Internal Audit is not too high, but he doesn't think the profession is in high demand.

My concern with evaluating with VETASSESS is if my academic qualifications will be evaluated for Internal Audit since my degrees are in Engineering but I have solid experience in Internal Audit. And also if the profession is really in demand?

Please guys I need your advice. I actually would prefer going via the IT Audit path as that is my preferred career path and I am already working on getting the required certifications.But I am concerned with the high competition in IT.

blackbriar:
I belive you are overthinking it.

Please kindly reagrd the VETASSESS eligilibity requirement carefully.

A bachelor degree in Engineerign doesnt disqualifies you from the said assessment. VETASSES wants a bachelors degree. It could even be a bachelors degree in Latin or CRS studies.

Try to understand your objectives. You are trying to obtain a skilled visa that gives you unlimited working rights in Australia.

SO whether you decide to use high points of 95 for IT professionals or moderately low point of maybe 80 for Internal Auditor. The skilled visa grants you unlimited working rights in Australia.

So upon lawfully entering Australia, you can decide not to do neither IT nor Internal Auditor.
You could decide to look for a job as a train driver or something else. Then your CV and work expereince will speak for you.

The main objective now is to acquire the skilled visa.

Just my humble 2 cents.

tunlex01:
Your friend is right.
Please note that IT occupations require a very high score.
In your case, Cyberseucrity Governance is not yet on the Skilled Occupation List (only on CSOL for employer sponsored visa) which means if you assess for that, you will not be able to get 189, 190 or 491 until the occupation is added.
Also, having CISA does not guarantee a positive assessment, you need to have experience as an IT auditor and a minimum of 6 years experience because ACS will deduct btween 4-6 to make up for not having a Bachelors/masters in Cybersecurity.
Internal Auditor assessed by VETASSESS is mostly related to Financial IA and that requires a degree in Accounting, Commerce or Business as it's a Group A occupation. Even ICAN is not equivalent to a Bachelors.
https://www.vetassess.com.au/check-my-occupation/professional-occupations/internal-auditor

With your current profile, you are better off looking towards other countries for now or explore the ACS. If you are married and your partner has an occupation in demand, then that may be another option

Anfieldboss:
Thank you boss for taking out time to explain to me.

If I should do a Postgraduate Diploma (PGD) or MSc in Accounting, do you think I'll be able to assess for Internal Audit with VETASSESS.

tunlex01:
PGD will not fly.
Msc in Accounting will fly however, all your previous experience will not count as you are deemed not to be eligible. Only your experience as an Internal auditor post masters will count. And in your case, you need at least 12 months post-masters experience to assess such occupation with Vetassess.
That means 0 point in experience.
That was the reason for the last statement in my previous response.

Anfieldboss:
Thanks for taking out time to break it down for me. I guess I'll have to explore other countries for immigration.

The other option I'd have love to explore in Australia is Masters in Professional Accounting, but the tuition fees are very high.

blackbriar:
If you are in lates 20's to mid 30's, Why not reserach about using the Engineeirng route.

You have a bachelors degree in Electrical Engineering.
Your bachelors thesis alone is 0ne CDR report(strike 1) of the 3 CDR Reports.
Your internship is another CDR report (strike 2).

Your work experience would be less than a year, as maybe you have no professional engineeirng working experince.

However, you can make up for points in Proficient English and Yoruba (NAATI).


Like i said earlier, the purpoe of the visa is not to determine where, and your workign occupation/profession in Australia.
There are teachers turned Engineers and doctors. But you need the skilled visa.
and they are engineers turned machine operators etc.

The purpose of the skilled visa is to give you "unlimited working rights in Autsralia."


Look up Engineers Australia Skilled Migrantion Assessmet.
I think VETASSESS also have some engineering asessments.


My humbe 2 cents

DVMogoshi:
Hello fam

I got an offer in Aussie as a health care assistant, $32/hr for 40hrs a week.

Will this be a good start for me as a Vet?

blackbriar:
No, as You will probably still be required to do the necessary Australia Auditor accreditation(s) to be certified/recognised and Work as internal Auditor in Australia.

Like i said earlier, the PR visa gives you "unlimited working and residency rights in Australia".
You can do any job and have more than one job. you could even get a job as an Eletrical Engineer Quality Inspector .
you can save and raise the money/funds to do the necesary accreditation to be recognised as a pracitising internal auditor in Australia.
Upon which you can look for jobs/roles in Internal Auditor roles.

And for when you pass the Engineers Australia assessment and get the PR visa, target state government jobs. Pay is not bad and you have soooooo much time to yourself, with flex working conditions and WFH arrangements.
The road to Jerusalem is not necessarily a straight road.

Please check the requirements below for Migration Skill Assessment with Engineers Australia.
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/2022-07/prepare-your-migration-skills-assessment-application-july2022_0.pdf

You will need your transcripts, education qualifications, IELTS, Tax receipts and Employment letter and Refeence letter as Technical Audior/Quality Inspector in the Power Sector and then you can claim this work experience as an Engineer. Of course you wil need to re-edit your CV to engineering based experience. However should you have several managerial experience, kindly add it even though it is not engineering related.

Please read up on the https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/migrants/migration-skills-assessment. It is about you, and not about COREN and NSE.
Kindly familiarise yourself with the Engineers Australia Migration Skill Assessment requirements.

My humble 2 cents.

dongc:
What is the essence of Skills assessment without accessing experience for a Skilled migration ??..all the CDR process for Engineering Technologist... you are obviously less attractive if you do am Expression of Interest with no experience....who is going to invite you.. I am just curious

frankmoney:
Hello everyone, I have a Btech and MSc in Architecture, i have over 5 years experience, but the problem now is proving that experience... I have worked as self employed and I don't have payment slips to show that, how do i get VETASSES assessment

GraduatesGrant:
Hello all,
Please I need some guidance. I have gone through this thread from the first page but my situation is a bit different.

I want to do my assessment with EA, my situation is:

B.Eng Production engineering (option in mechanical engineering) 2014

Got a certification in project management from a Nigerian institute 2015

M.Eng Manufacturing engineering 2018

Work experience:
Design engineer in a renewable energy company 2018-2021

Project Engineer 2021-2022 same coy

Project manager 2022-2023 same coy

PhD in mechanical engineering in view started 2024 in new Zealand

Preparing for Prince 2 project management certification May 2025

Please how should I structure my CDR? My job is strictly mechanical design of affordable solar devices and even as a project engineer/project manager I was still overseeing the manufacturing process from design to finishing.

Also, the company I work for is not a big company but we have a standard website.

Please contributions from experience legends would be appreciated.

Thank you.

cc: blackbrial

blackbriar:
Good day Dear Sir/Ma.

Please kindly fmailiarise yourself with the Engineers Australia Document below:
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/2022-07/prepare-your-migration-skills-assessment-application-july2022_0.pdf

Page 7 of the document above explains what your CDR should contain.

You wil require 3 CDRs. Any you can use any projects from your working experiences.

After drafting your CDRs, cross-check to ensure that your CDRs cover all the points listed in the porefessional summary below:
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/2022-06/professional-engineer-summary-statement-brfinal.pdf


It doesnt matter if your compnay is small, big or international.
It is about your engineering working experience.
and having solar working design and project delivery experience is quite niche.

The most important documents required form your company are stated on page 9 of the Prepare your Migration
Skills Assessment application, July 2022 v1.0.

Godspeed and my humble 2 cents.

blackbriar:
1. $32/hr for 40 hrs a week = $1280 per week before all deductions (tax and super).
2. $1280 * 2= $2560 per fortnight before all deductions (tax and super).
3. $1280 * 26.087 fornights = $66,782.72 annual salary before all deductions (tax and super).

inputing the figure in (item 3) above into paycalculator.com

4. Take home pay after tax and employer super deductions is = $2094.00

Also you have to pay 5% employee deductions on your pre-tax fortngiht salary.
5. So 5% of $2560 = $128

6. Final Take home pay = (item 4 - Item 5).
$(2094.00-128.00) = $1966 per fortnight.


Will this be a good take home pay?.
Bros to be honest, the question is tough to answer.
Rent, private insurance, groceries etc. may cost you averagely about $400 ~ $700 weekly.
My humble advice, if this your route to Australia, take it and start but don't stay long there. At most 12months.


One question for your kind sir/madam.
is the salary for base pay plus super? OR
base pay including super?

GraduatesGrant:
Thanks so much.

I have taken note of all requirements regarding my employment. In addition to that, further proof of employment regarding receipt of income tax lodgement. Is the income tax for the whole period of employment or for a particular period, maybe for a year or six months duration?

Also, the company I worked for is actually a small company, I've never seen or discuss tax with my employer and I'm not sure if he remits tax to the Lagos state government at any point.

Thanks once again.

Englishisamust:
Good morning guys,

Pls I need your advice.. I'm still 25 years. December this year will make it 3 years of experience in software engineering and I currently make 300k a month not here to brag just want ask whether I'm qualified and this what chat gpt also tell me that I can get 70 points if I passed ietls... Pls I need your advice??

@blackbriar @tunlex01

blackbriar:
1. $32/hr for 40 hrs a week = $1280 per week before all deductions (tax and super).
2. $1280 * 2= $2560 per fortnight before all deductions (tax and super).
3. $1280 * 26.087 fornights = $66,782.72 annual salary before all deductions (tax and super).

inputing the figure in (item 3) above into paycalculator.com

4. Take home pay after tax and employer super deductions is = $2094.00

Also you have to pay 5% employee deductions on your pre-tax fortngiht salary.
5. So 5% of $2560 = $128

6. Final Take home pay = (item 4 - Item 5).
$(2094.00-128.00) = $1966 per fortnight.


Will this be a good take home pay?.
Bros to be honest, the question is tough to answer.
Rent, private insurance, groceries etc. may cost you averagely about $400 ~ $700 weekly.
My humble advice, if this your route to Australia, take it and start but don't stay long there. At most 12months.


One question for your kind sir/madam.
is the salary for base pay plus super? OR
base pay including super?

GraduatesGrant:
Thanks so much.

I have taken note of all requirements regarding my employment. In addition to that, further proof of employment regarding receipt of income tax lodgement. Is the income tax for the whole period of employment or for a particular period, maybe for a year or six months duration?

Also, the company I worked for is actually a small company, I've never seen or discuss tax with my employer and I'm not sure if he remits tax to the Lagos state government at any point.

Thanks once again.

blackbriar:
Contact your company to find out.
If they do pay , they should draft up a tax clearance letter head with the tax invoices as attachements.

Usefulsense:
Bro, there is nothing like employer super deduction in Australia. Super is not a payroll deduction, rather your employer remits your super outside negotiated pay.
What do you mean employee 5% deduction?

peteredo:
Hello all,
Please I need some guidance.
I want to do my assessment with EA, my situation is:
B.Eng Electrical/Electronic Engineering, Ambrose Alli University, 2013
Got certification in Electrical Power Systems Training from National Power Training Institute (NAPTIN) 2016
MSc Electrical Power and System Engineering, Teesside University, UK, 2022 (Washington Accord recognized)
Work experience:
• Technical Support Engineer in Golden Power Solutions, 2017-2019
• Power Engineer (Apprenticeship) at National Power Training Institute, 2015-2016
Please how should I structure my EA assessment? I am planning to use the Washington Accord Pathway since my MSc is accredited, but I am a bit confused if I still need to write a CDR report or if my MSc alone will be enough.
Also, my recent technical experience is more focused on electrical systems, renewable energy microgrids, plant commissioning, and electrical distribution simulations.
Any guidance from people who have done similar assessments would be highly appreciated.
Thank you.

blackbriar:
Sadly as your Engineering bachelors degree was from Nigeria. You cannot use Washington accord assessment.
Please don't waste your money. Kindly read the EA assessment requirements carefully.

You can only use the migration Skilled assessment path.
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/migrants/migration-skills-assessment#accordion-1266

You will need the 3CDRs and a summary report.
[url]chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/2022-07/prepare-your-migration-skills-assessment-application-july2022_0.pdf[/url]


https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/migrants/migration-skills-assessment

peteredo:
Can u assist with a sample of CDR report