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Goosethetruth:
So because the illiterate fishermen witnessed the ministry of Jesus,it means they constructed and wrote the complex stories in the gospels of Mark,Matthew,Luke and John in Greek when their native language was Aramaic?

Lol...😁😁
Don't worry, although I know the indoctrination is deep I am ready to lead you deeper down the rabbit hole.
You must see the light.

Clearly your allegations are empty showing that your only complaints is that they were illiterates.

And clearly you real eyes that it does not make sense to say that an illiterate cannot be a good witness hence your difficulty in continuing your line of reasoning.

Further, the bible did not say that they wrote it themselves having also stated that they were fishermen. But Mathew, being a tax collector clearly means that he is literate.

Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly your allegations are empty showing that your only complaints is that they were illiterates.

And clearly you real eyes that it does not make sense to say that an illiterate cannot be a good witness hence your difficulty in continuing your line of reasoning.

Further, the bible did not say that they wrote it themselves having also stated that they were fishermen. But Mathew, being a tax collector clearly means that he is literate.

Are you saying Mathew the tax collector wrote the gospel of Mathew?

This book was originally written in Greek.
Mathew spoke Aramahic.
Make it make sense. ..

Goosethetruth:
Are you saying Mathew the tax collector wrote the gospel of Mathew?

This book was originally written in Greek.
Mathew spoke Aramahic.
Make it make sense. ..

Nope. I do not say that. However I do verily say that since Mathew is a tax collector it stands to reason that he is literate.

Goosethetruth:
You and the Ai you are relying on have obvious comprehension issues.
This is why I seldom rely on Ai because it is easy to decieve and mostly comprehends what the questioner wants it to say.

Go back to the beginning of the Chapter. This verse is talking about the disciple whom Jesus loved who is actually the source of the story the person claiming to be John wrote as a gospel.
Read to understand. The passage is not written in Greek or Latin.

It is you who fails to comprehend. You have just said that "This verse is talking about the disciple whom Jesus loved" is this not proof that it means that this disciple called John was present with Jesus and therefore he is a very good witness?

TheMadame:
You need to really educate yourself.
Learn about the history of reading and writing and stop comparing this computer age of clicks to an age where few people were literate and writing was done by hand painstakingly on tablets of rock and cuneiform. I expect this to fly over your head as usual.

You are the one running from answering clear and direct questions, letting them hang in the air over your head.

Clearly you appreciate the folly of your thoughts which is why you dodge answering the questions.

For no where in the past story of the world does it say that a couple of babies born only in Babylon where born literate.

And that it is only literate people who could stand as witnesses.

So, you already know that you are wrong hence why you dodging and deflecting

Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one running from answering clear and direct questions, letting them hang in the air over your head.

Clearly you appreciate the folly of your thoughts which is why you dodge answering the questions.

For no where in the past story of the world does it say that a couple of babies born only in Babylon where born literate.

And that it is only literate people who could stand as witnesses.

So, you already know that you are wrong hence why you dodging and deflecting

Honestly you should be a comedian if you are not already one.
We are talking A and you are talking Z.

TheMadame:
Honestly you should be a comedian if you are not already one.
We are talking A and you are talking Z.

You real eyes that you are talking about yourself right?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is you who fails to comprehend. You have just said that "This verse is talking about the disciple whom Jesus loved" is this not proof that it means that this disciple called John was present with Jesus and therefore he is a very good witness?

Comprehension issues.....MUCH! MUCH!! MUCH!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
You real eyes that you are talking about yourself right?

Ignorance is bliss and knowledge flies over your head at all times.
I will be ignoring your ignorance henceforth.

TheMadame:
Ignorance is bliss and knowledge flies over your head at all times.
I will be ignoring your ignorance henceforth.

You claim to have knowledge yet you are not able to answer the questions put forth to too to clear any doubts I have. And the only reason for your refusal is simply because it renders your thoughts on this issue void.

So, now you are just being petty and childish since you real eyes that there is no way of selling the errors you have in your head.

So, it's you who is being ignorant ignoring valuable knowledge every reasonable person knows all because such knowledge gives you misery

Goosethetruth:
Comprehension issues.....MUCH! MUCH!! MUCH!!!

Clearly a problem that ails you for even Google, A.I have answered you yet you are the only one not seeing.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is you who fails to comprehend. You have just said that "This verse is talking about the disciple whom Jesus loved" is this not proof that it means that this disciple called John was present with Jesus and therefore he is a very good witness?

Go back and read your Bible very well. Several times in the gospel of John,the disciple whom Jesus loved dearly appear in the same scene with John and as such they are two different people.
I never run to these chat ai bots because they only tell you what you want to hear.

Even the bot will tell you all the 4 gospels inserted in the Bible were written bu unknown authors and the early church superimposed names of disciples on totally UNTITLED books.
Mark which obviously is the first written is copied completely and embellished by Mathew,Luke and John.
This is why stories like the irgin birth and the resurrection stories are not inside Mark. These stories are latter additions and embedded by Mathew,Luke and John in their accounts. In fact I will go further to tell you that Mark is an allegorical tale of the nation of Israel but Mathew,Luke and John turn it into a literally story because they are copies.
Once you open your mind and educate yourself that the gospel of Mark is an allegory and Jesus represents the sacrifi ial lamb in Judaism everything falls into place.

I also advise you to read up on the Jewish festival of Yom Kippur and the Yom Kippur SCAPEGOAT.
It is a festival where they have two goats brought before the priest. One goat is set free into the desert while the other goat is sacrificed for the sins of nation of Israel. Pirates setting Barabas free while Jesus is crucified. It is allegorical.
So my dear chap, you will still need to consult Ai further. That is your assignment for today.....LOL....😊😊

Goosethetruth:
Go back and read your Bible very well. Several times in the gospel of John,the disciple whom Jesus loved dearly appear in the same scene with John and as such they are two different people.

See, you have comprehension issues. Now you have shifted post talking about 2 Johns present with Christ, meanwhile you were saying that John was not there.

And the rest of your posts is Off Point. So you see, you have nothing.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, you have comprehension issues. Now you have shifted post talking about 2 Johns present with Christ, meanwhile you were saying that John was not there.

And the rest of your posts is Off Point. So you see, you have nothing.

Apparently you don't know how to use the Nairaland.com quite button properly or you can't answer all the questions I raised.
I have come to the sad conclusion that trying to have a discussion with you is like listening to a cracked record that skips and keeps repeating itself. I understand that the indoctrination is very deep but try to be objective when reading the Bible at times.
This is a book riddled with contradictory beliefs,genocide,murder,incest,misogyny, and family incestuous relationships.
The book has been translated, re-translated,edited,re-edited,imputed,inserted and distorted so much that no one can point to the original message of such a book. This is why there are different tales of the same story.
There are two creation stories. There are two flood stories. Moses allegedly writes the story of his own demise. There are two death of Goliath stories. The gospels do not agree on the resurrection of Jesus story. Paul does not know about the virgin birth and never mentions it in any of his letters.

Like I said earlier talking to you is just a complete waste of my time and data.

Goosethetruth:
Apparently you don't know how to use the Nairaland.com quite button properly or you can't answer all the questions I raised.
I have come to the sad conclusion that trying to have a discussion with you is like listening to a cracked record that skips and keeps repeating itself. I understand that the indoctrination is very deep but try to be objective when reading the Bible at times.
This is a book riddled with contradictory beliefs,genocide,murder,incest,misogyny, and family incestuous relationships.
The book has been translated, re-translated,edited,re-edited,imputed,inserted and distorted so much that no one can point to the original message of such a book. This is why there are different tales of the same story.
There are two creation stories. There are two flood stories. Moses allegedly writes the story of his own demise. There are two death of Goliath stories. The gospels do not agree on the resurrection of Jesus story. Paul does not know about the virgin birth and never mentions it in any of his letters.

Like I said earlier talking to you is just a complete waste of my time and data.

It is you who does not real eyes that you atheists have lost since here in Nairaland as you people have no valid argument nothing except to make endless argument shifting posts to another when you find that you have proven wrong on the issue at hand.

You have nothing to argue as everything that you are now saying has been kicked out here. That is why atheists here are silent as they do not have any reasonable thing to say again. So rest man, all you say are complete bullocks.