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Locotrader:
Let's see what our fight for this Agric company will help us to achieve.

I so much like to invest in Ellah lakes.I am the one that made the first call on Ellah lakes in 2018/2019 before we entered COVID 19.My first handle Locodemy has the whole records but now deactivated.

I am happy you have made your own due diligence on the company and found out a lot needs to be done.All of us will enjoy the company at the right time.

Even now,as a traders stock,Ellah has rewarded us awesomely.

Let's join hands together to force this company to be transparent and produce good results

He said they have not conclude on any form of capital raise that they are still deliberating on it but they will utilize the best options that best suit the company.

I wondered where people are seeing raising money via equity.

PuristForest:
This una access, its not done .....this move from 20 to 22.5 is only wave 2 of 5 to downside....

The more the downside if any again the BETTER for DISCERNING INVESTORS to increase their positions

crownprince2017:
He said they have not conclude on any form of capital raise that they are still deliberating on it but they will utilize the best options that best suit the company.

I wondered where people are seeing raising money via equity.

They are good in equity to debt conversion.
Listen to him again.He made it clear.
Anyone who convert his debt to equity will pray for the share price to rise.This is the only way for perfect exit.

megawealth01:
The more the downside if any again the BETTER for DISCERNING INVESTORS to increase their positions

Una wey your investment capital no dey run dry I hail o... Money na water

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Streetinvestor2:
Now based on interview and other facts outside ellahlakes as evidence you will prove me wrong by coming up with your own numbers.
In 2020 ellahlakes bought I farm with promise to install 20 tonnes of oil mill.In 2025 they are able to install 3 tonnes oil Mills to be commissioned soon
The ceo said for the mill to operate full capacity they will have to be doing other products. Pls note this part as per full operation.
I will give ellahlakes benefit of trust that the 3 tonnes Mills is capacity for an hour and not per day.If it is capacity for a day then invariably the farm is a scam alert.

Now presco has 90 tonnes capacity for an hour equivalent to 2160 per day
Okumu has 60 tonnes capacity for an hour with second Mills in progress to push above 120 tonnes per hour At 60 tonnes per hour they have capacity of 1440 per day
Ellahlakes has just 3 tonnes per hour (assumd).It will give it just 72 tonnes capacity in a day.
Pls remember that the ceo said they will even need others produce to achieve full capacity of 72 tonnes per day.Therefore ellahlakes already cultivated palm farm is small.
This is why the biological assets was not giving me what I expected

Presco tonnes production for 2024 is not really available
Okumu had 68721 tonnes CPO for 2024 yr.
Then for ellahlakes 2025 full yr results if you consider other factors can deliver btw 1400-1500 tonnes only if operated at full capacity. This we can not say which will be thr FFB.
At 1.5 million per tonnes. They may generate revenue of btw.2.1 billion -2.25 billion.
When you remove, costs of sales,other expenses and cooperate tax you will get you PAT.
Presco has Os of 1 billion
Okumu has os of 953.9 million
Ellahlakes will have os in the range of 5-10 billion when they are done raising money/debt conversion
My verdict Ellahlakes has a relatively small cultivated palm farm.
You can do the additional maths to expected eps of 2025 and above.
I do not need to visit the farm again as I was never interested in thr side hustle like the piggery.
I have right to my opinion you can counter with your own figures and not emotions

You raised good points and I will look into at my spare time.

Ourown:
If you have 10m right now, what stocks would you buy to hold for about 12 months? How would you invest it? Thanks

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Locotrader:
Oga why you dey write thesis for practical things?
Why you dey compare rats with rabbits?
In as much as I believe Ellah is a growth stock,plenty things needs to be done

Why did they choose the option of diluting shares when they can sell commercial papers?
Did others start by diluting shares?
Check the outstanding shares of okomu and presco and check that of Ellah.Cant you see they are not in the same league?

My problem now is Ellah's latest results is not good,what prompted the rapid rise in price?
When the audited result is announced in the next few months,this same share price will nose dive.
They should do well and sell commercial papers. This is the only news I will appreciate than doing right issue or private placement/ public offer.

I have to thank Ellah for rewarding me to where I think I can stop until I see the next line of action which must be a positive one that can impact on the top and bottom lines.

Loco I have been expecting you to write this kind of thesis on Chams too, you marketed for us to buy and theirs was even worst in the sense that while others try to push price up before releasing information for share dilution they moved straight with right issue info and made the release date same as qualification date meaning they don't want investors to rush in to qualify which may have helped the price. Thank God I reduced my exposure by 50% before the nonsense right issue information came out because the nosedive in price of the Chams stock fish since then no be here. Who wan buy right issue at #1.70 for a non-dividend paying stock that is already selling at #2.
You told us to expect a big news that will move Chams and the big news is drowning the price instead.

I have only one new year resolution for 2025 and the foreseeable future: [/b]to be more patient with myself, about myself and others[b]. It is already paying me handsomely.

Valthegreat:
Loco I have been expecting you to write this kind of thesis on Chams too, you marketed for us to buy and theirs was even worst in the sense that while others try to push price up before releasing information for share dilution they moved straight with right issue info and made the release date same as qualification date meaning they don't want investors to rush in to qualify which may have helped the price. Thank God I reduced my exposure by 50% before the nonsense right issue information came out because the nosedive in price of the Chams stock fish since then no be here. Who wan buy right issue at #1.70 for a non-dividend paying stock that is already selling at #2.
You told us to expect a big news that will move Chams and the big news is drowning the price instead.

The mistake I made in Chams is advertising a stock of low revenue. I learnt a new lesson from Heisime about low profit margin.

If a stock can generate a higher revenue and make a loss,it's understandable.Something must cause the loss like the case of Dangote sugar and international Brew.When they get it right,the share price will rise.

I am sorry I have made a u-turn in Chams for now.The shares outstanding has risen to above 7B and we are yet to witness a higher revenue let alone a high profit margin.All the businesses they handle is by contracts.They are left with peanuts when the superiors collect their lion shares.Nothing is left for shareholders to enjoy.

I have chams and I am not planning to offload now because the bull is about to touch some stocks.it might be opportune to move up as ASI is expected to hit 130,000 by year end.A time we are expecting market men and women to have interest in stocks is drawing closer but not in 2025.

Mr president is fighting re election in 2027.I will not be surprise to see ASI touch 150k during election campaigns in 2026.

Ourown:
If you have 10m right now, what stocks would you buy to hold for about 12 months? How would you invest it? Thanks

Locotrader:
If you invest that money in Cileasing at this time,you will live to thank Loco all the days of your life.

Note: Don't take this advice as a monkey hunting advice but check Nigeria economy and the prospects of Cileasing in Nigeria economy in 2025 and beyond.

Valthegreat:
Loco I have been expecting you to write this kind of thesis on Chams too, you marketed for us to buy and theirs was even worst in the sense that while others try to push price up before releasing information for share dilution they moved straight with right issue info and made the release date same as qualification date meaning they don't want investors to rush in to qualify which may have helped the price. Thank God I reduced my exposure by 50% before the nonsense right issue information came out because the nosedive in price of the Chams stock fish since then no be here. Who wan buy right issue at #1.70 for a non-dividend paying stock that is already selling at #2.
You told us to expect a big news that will move Chams and the big news is drowning the price instead.

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Except for very few who are honest.
Don’t trust anyone here. It has always been about making money.
Some want you to sell so they can buy cheap. Others want you to buy so they can exit.

Discern everything you read and every decision you make.

Valthegreat:
Loco I have been expecting you to write this kind of thesis on Chams too, you marketed for us to buy and theirs was even worst in the sense that while others try to push price up before releasing information for share dilution they moved straight with right issue info and made the release date same as qualification date meaning they don't want investors to rush in to qualify which may have helped the price. Thank God I reduced my exposure by 50% before the nonsense right issue information came out because the nosedive in price of the Chams stock fish since then no be here. Who wan buy right issue at #1.70 for a non-dividend paying stock that is already selling at #2.
You told us to expect a big news that will move Chams and the big news is drowning the price instead.

locotrader will look lift to these one now, right issue release not even dividend event, please let him leave ellahlake shareholder to enjoy there loot in peace.

crownprince2017:
He said they have not conclude on any form of capital raise that they are still deliberating on it but they will utilize the best options that best suit the company.

I wondered where people are seeing raising money via equity.

I was going to report what you just reported. Contrary to what Modri has earlier said on Arise TV he seem not in support of further funds

raising through rights issue or public offer.

If you have a 3 ton per hour palm Oil mill at N1.5 million per ton of palm Oil why would you need to raise capital.

Streetinvestor2:
If I have such money and don't know anything about stock business .What to buy will not be my immediate concern and 12 months. I will spend time to learn the basic maths of the business since Internet has made it easier not like when I started many yrs back.
Opportunities will always be in the market at various time as preservation of capital is most important

In addition you can keep the money in a money market fund while you do the learning. Don't rush as already stated by the post i quoted, opportunities abounds in the market everyday.

You have to learn to earn otherwise... it will seems like you are gambling.

Locotrader:
The mistake I made in Chams is advertising a stock of low revenue. I learnt a new lesson from Heisime about low profit margin.

If a stock can generate a higher revenue and make a loss,it's understandable.Something must cause the loss like the case of Dangote sugar and international Brew.When they get it right,the share price will rise.

I am sorry I have made a u-turn in Chams for now.The shares outstanding has risen to above 7B and we are yet to witness a higher revenue let alone a high profit margin.All the businesses they handle is by contracts.They are left with peanuts when the superiors collect their lion shares.Nothing is left for shareholders to enjoy.

I have chams and I am not planning to offload now because the bull is about to touch some stocks.it might be opportune to move up as ASI is expected to hit 130,000 by year end.A time we are expecting market men and women to have interest in stocks is drawing closer but not in 2025.

Mr president is fighting re election in 2027.I will not be surprise to see ASI touch 150k during election campaigns in 2026.

You have been forgiven at least for accepting that you are a human that can make mistakes.
But now that you are marketing C I Leasing what's the difference between them and Chams because from my little check it is also a low revenue company. From last unaudited result PAT was about 728m while OS is around 3B. Should they distribute PAT 100% it will go around 0.24 per share. Please where do you see more value that will grow their revenue going forward because leasing business has always been a low revenue business?

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You are too bad.
Just quote and unquote.

Also I noted that Seun no dey catch you with his 40 characters gimmick. You can even post empty comment, how are you able to escape the sledge hammer?

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Valthegreat:
You have been forgiven at least for accepting that you are a human that can make mistakes.
But now that you are marketing C I Leasing what's the difference between them and Chams because from my little check it is also a low revenue company. From last unaudited result PAT was about 728m while OS is around 3B. Should they distribute PAT 100% it will go around 0.24 per share. Please where do you see more value that will grow their revenue going forward because leasing business has always been a low revenue business?

Cileasing is not a low revenue company.They have their shareholders in mind hence they depend on leveraging issueing commercial papers than raising funds via right issue or private placement.

Judging by the last result which is unaudited 2024,they made a revenue of 37B which is almost 100% from the prior year.
They would have make a good profit if not redemption of commercial paper they issued sometime in 2024.I still believe they can still pay dividend if they want even if it is 5kobo to shareholders.

The company assets has risen to 113B in 2024.The 2 foreign subsidiaries are positioned to make money in the leasing and marine industries.In Nigeria,the presidents CNG initiatives are looking favourable to them because of the sector they operate.

I am anticipating a 100% revenue increase for CIleasing and a good profit margin in Q1 2025 which is about to be released.

Cileasing is not a low revenue company and I also believe their profit margins will increase in all the quarters in 2025.Economy is improving.Multinarional companies depend on leasing than outright .In the leasing industry in Nigeria, Cileasing is number one.Leasing and marine industries contributed immensely to the growth of Nigerian economy in Q1 2025.More are to be seen as the year advances

emmaodet:
You raised good points and I will look into at my spare time.

OK.I will like to see if your numbers can give me .30kobo in eps in the next 5 yrs

we think that linkassure still has some push to make
https://ewnation.com/linkassure-bulls-put-up-a-fight/
https://ewnation.com/cileasing-cannot-be-underestimated/

PuristForest:
we think that linkassure still has some push to make
https://ewnation.com/linkassure-bulls-put-up-a-fight/
https://ewnation.com/cileasing-cannot-be-underestimated/

What Joy do Linkage derive issue bonus shares unnecessarily.
They did 1 for 5 bonus two years ago and now another bonus.

Insurance Companies are raising funds to meet capitalization.
Will this bonus stop them from raising funds in the near future?

Some companies are not afraid of bloated shares.It is dilutions and not good to shareholders in dividend payments

Companies I will value their bonus issuance at this time are okomu,Nestle and presco.The stock prices are high and need dilutions to bring the price down.Even if you look at them,they have less outstanding shares.Issueing bonus shares are good for them.

Not a penny stock with already bloated shares issueing a bonus shares to shareholders.The price may go up as a result of the action but will certainly go down even below the original(old) price.

Regency gave their bonus and share price rallied and later came down to square one.Even till now Naicom has not approved the bonus.whats the need?

My forecast for CWG FY 25 earnings and dividend.


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Locotrader:
What Joy do Linkage derive issue bonus shares unnecessarily.
They did 1 for 5 bonus two years ago and now another bonus.

Insurance Companies are raising funds to meet capitalization.
Will this bonus stop them from raising funds in the near future?

Some companies are not afraid of bloated shares.It is dilutions and not good to shareholders in dividend payments

The bonus shares 1/5 have been priced in the current price of the asset

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Valthegreat:
Loco I have been expecting you to write this kind of thesis on Chams too, you marketed for us to buy and theirs was even worst in the sense that while others try to push price up before releasing information for share dilution they moved straight with right issue info and made the release date same as qualification date meaning they don't want investors to rush in to qualify which may have helped the price. Thank God I reduced my exposure by 50% before the nonsense right issue information came out because the nosedive in price of the Chams stock fish since then no be here. Who wan buy right issue at #1.70 for a non-dividend paying stock that is already selling at #2.
You told us to expect a big news that will move Chams and the big news is drowning the price instead.

Chai I dey stuck in Chams.. Aye mi Temi bami.. Olorun Omo Joseph

Locotrader:
Oga why you dey write thesis for practical things?
Why you dey compare rats with rabbits?
In as much as I believe Ellah is a growth stock,plenty things needs to be done

Why did they choose the option of diluting shares when they can sell commercial papers?
Did others start by diluting shares?
Check the outstanding shares of okomu and presco and check that of Ellah.Cant you see they are not in the same league?

My problem now is Ellah's latest results is not good,what prompted the rapid rise in price?
When the audited result is announced in the next few months,this same share price will nose dive.
They should do well and sell commercial papers. This is the only news I will appreciate than doing right issue or private placement/ public offer.

I have to thank Ellah for rewarding me to where I think I can stop until I see the next line of action which must be a positive one that can impact on the top and bottom lines.

Sir, there are many types of CEOs, the smart ones and the dumb ones. What if…. Just what if in the future the shares are reverse stock split? Would your opinion change sir? That's what could happen once they become profitable. Commercial papers are not free sir. They come with interest. Salt and pepper are not the only seasoning in the market…..deep thinkers will always go further.

I appreciate your response in English. Made rebuttal a lot easier. Thank you 🙏

Abeg who is interested in CHAMS right issue let me sell my right to you at a discounted price?

Whenever I glance at this stock(LIVING TRUST MORTGAGE BANK plc) in my portfolio, I'm reminded of the potential backlash Locotrader might face from the community. I recall Locotrader promoting this stock on the platform around 2022/2023, although I personally acquired it in 2021. Currently, I'm sitting on a remarkable 745% ROI. If Locotrader had held onto this stock, he might be well on his way to joining the ranks of stock market billionaires. In hindsight, I think Locotrader could benefit from reading classic investment books and listening to educational audiotapes. These resources have been invaluable in helping me manage my emotions and impulses during my investment journey.

fashionnisir:
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