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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by NettyNelly(m): 9:12am On Jun 28, 2025 |
NettyNelly:Issue with this bussiness is that they have too much debt (which is normal for the kind of bussiness it operates). But there’s risk of debt of debt to equity conversion which has happened in the last 2 years. This will create more shares and reduce eps |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 9:49am On Jun 28, 2025*. Modified: 11:44am On Jun 28, 2025 |
Omooloriredade:I will only respond to this point because many other thing thr is just noise 1.It was classified as audio farm because of all secrecy concerning the physical farm which was not the case with other in the sector. The first interview was done with brokers and pictures released was done in a park.Thr is no proper video of the farm in the interviews I have seen...why. If you have any,pls post it or share link 2.I called it a garden after showing working using the 3 tonnes per hour capacity mill of 72 tonnes per day. The post is on this thread. I did my judgment based on what okumu and presco equally have on ground. And the statement from the ceo who said for it to run of full capacity of the 3 tonnes they will have to do others FFB..Three tonnes mill per hour is barely industry by my finding. Then another oga who I know long ago collaborated my maths by saying they are dam too small.If you have different fact.Pls present it.Another person used map to equally say the same thing. Pls tell us the cultivated palm farm size of the company or approximately the number of palm trees on ground not landbank. 3.Thr have been insider dealings .It must not fall into the category of directors/management. I am not a learner in this business if you are waiting for disclosure. 4.Tell us why debt was converted to equity if not because they could not pay back the loan.From whr will they pay back when the company has not been generating revenue. I even saw whr salaries was converted to equity in the past too.The one they just generated in 9 months results is 68 million. Do you have different fact 5 Show prove whr I ever said the company could not attain a particular figure in price beside saying it is jijo stock.So whr is your #4 coming from because I don't remember. 6.What I said about the possible intent of the ceo is my opinion which many have voiced thr opinions on other company ceo here. And on all the noise on my emotions. Is it your emotion.I have the right to it.sir 7.Can you provide information on those who provided those millions of units traded this week as the debt conversion I was made to believe was not only from directors loans All that is important is bring facts and counter facts on this things I listed. I hope you are not insider indirectly too.What does a ceo of a business which has not proved any thing extraordinary in many yrs need this kind money....250 billion . |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 9:51am On Jun 28, 2025 |
NettyNelly:As you are aware, OP is quite bullish about the stock. "I hope for your sake" means I wish him well and hopes his dreams are realised. I'm not buying the stock for his sake. Good research on C&I by the way. Way to go. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Princkez: 10:02am On Jun 28, 2025 |
Streetinvestor2:I thought the ceo granted live interview on twitter some weeks ago,most of these questions should have been directed to him.. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 10:12am On Jun 28, 2025 |
Omooloriredade:My recent realization is that nobody truly knows anything for sure — it’s all speculation. Anyone can make a case for or against a stock, but that doesn't change the facts, or the lack thereof. All stocks are inherently risky. Every single one. The sources of risk may differ, and even the price at which a stock is bought introduces risk. Almost everyone claims they're helping out newbies, even when they're no different themselves. So I suggest not bothering to fiercely defend or attack a stock — it's rarely worth the stress, unless you genuinely enjoy going back and forth in arguments. Whatever is going to happen tomorrow — especially things beyond our control — will happen regardless. Arguing all day won’t change that. The most important thing is to always manage and mitigate risk as much as possible. ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fashionnisir(f): 10:17am On Jun 28, 2025 |
please what are your thought on these.
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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 10:18am On Jun 28, 2025 |
NettyNelly:Waoh! You really made a good research. For debts,C&I can't do without leveraging. It's part of their business. For equity dilution,they have 2.95B outstanding shares from 1.7B.The dilution was due to equity conversion by peace Mass which brought their total stakes to about 67% in the company. Dr Maduka has the controlling stake in C&I and will avoid any further dilutions.They will continue using commercial papers to service their debts since they have a good credit ratings However,they promised paying dividend in 2024 financial year. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 10:26am On Jun 28, 2025 |
ositadima1:If you know there's some risk, only use patient funds for (apologies to Mega 😁) stocks with inherent prospects or sell off existing stocks to buy them instead of pumping in needed cash |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 10:29am On Jun 28, 2025 |
I also share similar sentiments about the future of WILMAR in Nigeria. It remains to be seen IF ELLAH can pull this off... ![]() Omooloriredade: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 10:45am On Jun 28, 2025 |
Princkez:Bro this is shallow to my post as i only responded to a post on me.If you are looking for likes try next door pls. Otherwise address the listed things I stated...lol |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 10:55am On Jun 28, 2025 |
KarlTom:lwkd because each time I see 250 billion to that man on that tie/suit. MBA forex guy dey come my mind. If na alhaji, rabiu, toni, ote dey ask for 250 billion I for no blink eyes oh Even my international breweries Ri many here no agree collect when I wanted to sell.At the end na parent company collect the RI.The money if I am not wrong been no reach 100billion self. It looks chams no need money with kind Ri dey want to do.This na company way dey even generate something .Make una no come shout are they in the same sector for my head. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 11:45am On Jun 28, 2025 |
ositadima1:Going back and forth on social media / forums is stressful for sure Certainly not my thing. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 11:59am On Jun 28, 2025 |
Mankind2024:The only thing that caught my attention here is 1000 tonnes/day.That oga looking for 250 billion has just capacity of 72 tonnes/day mill In 2020 he said he will install 20 tonnes per hour equivalent 480 tonnes per day. Now he installed 3 tonnes equivalent to 72 tonnes per day.And they didn't ask him question in twitter. The are waiting to celebrate under performance called commissioning. Do your research and find out that the size of this 3 tonnes is classified are barely industry in the business |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by leo1234(m): 12:06pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Any update on PZ financial report? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 12:32pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Omooloriredade: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 12:43pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Wilmar may not be selling 100% stake to Ellah but a chunk? Maybe Pa Emma can get us reliable info as before.. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 1:20pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 1:21pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Loco is a student of Ronald Wayne, it seems like history is repeating itself. He sold off millions of shares of Ellah Lake at under N4, and now those shares would be worth 2 5 times that amount. Looks like some people are learning from Ronald Wayne's story the hard way 😂. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 1:29pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
![]() But are we not all Ronald Wayne if we are being honest? Life will continually present opportunities, some we avail, some we don't even recorgnise at all. No one knows tomorrow! Mankind2024: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 1:30pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
SonofElElyonRet:Ah! You're already dividing up Wilmar. I was just speculating o. Haha. ![]() By the way, there is PZ Wilmar and there is Wilmar International. PZ Cussons sold their stake in PZ Wilmar. Wilmar International now owns PZ Wilmar 100% but operates them as distinct entities. Wilmar Int operates two JV oil palm plantation in Nigeria where they hold the majority stake and PZ Wilmar holds a minority stake. So selling 100% of PZ Wilmar to Ellah implies they will still hold majority stake in those farms. Please lets remember this is pure speculation until we get an official announcement confirming or trashing it. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 1:33pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
I'm just teasing Loco on this faceless forum. Let's be real, Abuja to Imo is quite a trek – we're talking over 400 kilometers! 😂 GeeKudi: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 1:34pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Omooloriredade:Oh ok |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 1:40pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
I tried asking Mr AI if he sees any chance of Ellah acquiring PZ Wilmar. He had the following to say What’s Actually Happening with PZ Wilmar • Wilmar International (Singapore) has already agreed to buy out PZ Cussons Plc’s 50% stake in PZ Wilmar for US $70 million. • Once completed—expected in Q4 2025—Wilmar will own 100% of PZ Wilmar, marking PZ Cussons’s exit from the joint venture punchng.com+7vanguardngr.com+7thenationonlineng.net+7thenationonlineng.net+2punchng.com+2thecable.ng+2. 🔍 Why Ellah Lakes Isn’t Involved • Wilmar is acquiring the stake directly from PZ Cussons, not putting it on the open market. • The transaction is not structured for third-party participation, and the intent is vertical consolidation within Wilmar—not a sale to another buyer . • After the acquisition, Wilmar has expressed interest in finding a local partner—but this is for operational support, not equity transfer. There is no indication that they’re seeking to offload any stake to Ellah Lakes specifically nairametrics.com+4nairametrics.com+4punchng.com+4. ✅ Summary Table Key Factor Implication Ownership Deal Wilmar is buying PZ Cussons’s stake directly; not up for grabs by others. Regulatory Approval Transaction is pending regulatory sign-off, not an open auction. Local Partnerships May be operational, but not equity sale; still no open share offer to others. 💡 Bottom Line Unless Wilmar unexpectedly decides to divest part of its newly acquired PZ Wilmar stake—which is highly improbable—there’s no pathway for Ellah Lakes to acquire the company. They should instead focus on their own growth strategy or look for other agribusiness M&A opportunities more aligned with their portfolio. Omooloriredade: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Princkez: 2:02pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Streetinvestor2:Ok sir |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Princkez: 2:06pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
For ELLAHLAKES to come up with this 250b fund raising,I think they already got an investor on the line...just thinking. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 2:12pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Again, I asked Mr AI for PZ Wilmar's key assets and operations. The thought of Ellah acquiring PZ Wimar is like a goat trying to swallow an elephant! Here’s a clearer picture of PZ Wilmar’s key assets and operations: 🌴 Plantations & Estates • Extensive oil palm plantations (≈26,500 ha) in Cross River State, including Calaro Estate (5,549 ha), Calaro Extension (2,369 ha), Ibiae (5,595 ha), Ibad (7,805 ha), Kwa Falls (2,014 ha), and Oban (2,986 ha) pzwilmar.com+11archive.businessday.ng+11businessday.ng+11. • Part of a long-term goal to expand to 50,000 hectares, under a massive backward-integration strategy businessday.ng+2vanguardngr.com+2archive.businessday.ng+2. • The plantations are integrated farms with staff housing, dedicated water treatment, and automated offices archive.businessday.ng. 🏭 Processing & Refining Facilities • Palm oil mill (POM) and kernel crushing plant (KCP) within Calaro Estate: o POM processes fresh fruit bunches; KCP extracts palm kernel oils pzwilmar.com+5archive.businessday.ng+5businessday.ng+5. • Lagos-based refinery and packaging plant with a capacity of 1,000 MT/day, making it one of Nigeria’s largest 🍶pzwilmar.com. o Produces brands like Mamador and Devon King's oils, plus high-margin margarine spreads pzwilmar.com+6pzwilmar.com+6vanguardngr.com+6. • Includes a modern margarine plant, effluent treatment, and plastic gallon manufacturing for packaging pzwilmar.com+1archive.businessday.ng+1. 🔁 Contract Farming & Sustainable Practices • Works with smallholder farmers, offering seeds, training, and infrastructure support to buffer harvest shortfalls businessday.ng+5pzwilmar.com+5pzwilmar.com+5. • Focuses on environmental sustainability, best-management practices, ISO 22000 food safety certification, and efficient by-products usage archive.businessday.ng+1vanguardngr.com+1. 💸 Investment Scale & Objectives • Total investment of roughly US$150 million (N45 billion) in plantations and N20 billion in the Lagos refinery businessday.ng+1archive.businessday.ng+1. • Foresees US$650 million in total foreign direct investment, with expectations to generate around 30,000–250,000 direct and indirect jobs over time archive.businessday.ng+2pzwilmar.com+2businessday.ng+2. • Aims to close Nigeria’s palm oil import gap (~350,000 MT/year) and revive the country’s historical leadership in the sector businessday.ng+4archive.businessday.ng+4pzwilmar.com+4. ✅ Summary PZ Wilmar operates a vertically integrated palm oil enterprise in Nigeria, from large-scale plantations through to refining, packaging, and developing consumer brands. It complements this core agricultural operation with forward and backward integration, smallholder engagement, and sustainability initiatives—all underpinned by substantial foreign investment. Let me know if you’d like to dive into production volumes, financial performance, or how PZ Wilmar stacks up against competitors like Okomu or Presco! GeeKudi: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Harvestock01(m): 2:12pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Princkez:Even at that, the fundraising will be in tranches over a period of time as it is very unlikely to go that big except there's an investor waiting in the wings. In that case, a small amount of shares will be offered through RI to appease existing shareholders. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 2:15pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
GeeKudi:Like Access did with far bigger banks? Not saying it'll happen but not impossible |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 2:15pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
Princkez:My thoughts exactly |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 2:23pm On Jun 28, 2025 |
How will such transaction even scale through regulatory oversight? What operatorship experience do they have at Ellah to be given an entity as large as PZ Wilmar? I think we should wait to see what M&A Ellah is planning. However in all honesty, PZ Wilmar is not in their league at all. SonofElElyonRet: |
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