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Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by osuofia2(m): 2:12pm On Jul 19, 2025
samuelson06:
Hahaha grin

Your comment is so petty. I thought you'll begin to list Soludo's achievements as the governor. Professor of Economics or whatever is a personal thing. What's our business with that? Talk about his achievements that have direct impact on the people's lives.
His achievement superceeds your hero. Go to Anambra and the work of his hands. Not by shouting go and verify
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by PHIPEX(m): 2:13pm On Jul 19, 2025
Soludo is brilliant but lacks character.

His voices of character assassination will.wreck his political career
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by lionshare: 2:16pm On Jul 19, 2025
pneumatikos:
You haven't explained anything here. Give us breakdowns, talk with facts.
It’s all public information if you really care about the truth you find it.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by softouch01: 2:16pm On Jul 19, 2025
Soludo is just overated

gerrardomendes:
Prof should show us any investment he has brought to Anambra state and how much they generate from them as tax.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by softouch01: 2:17pm On Jul 19, 2025
Because of janglover and waterfall?

osuofia2:
His achievement superceeds your hero. Go to Anambra and the work of his hands. Not by shouting go and verify
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by nairalanda1(m): 2:23pm On Jul 19, 2025
Lekby25:
The money earned from crude oil, is it managed well over the past years , the little tax collected from the people, is it managed well over the past years , stop comparing developed nations with Nigeria, the way they manage their resources, it is not thesame way we manage our own here
Nigeria needs a budget more than what we earn from crude oil and we also need to end corruption.

We don't have enough money.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by Streetinvestor2: 2:24pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
Bris you fall my hand because you sounded like someone I do see in investment thread.
We are talking of CT paid to the state and you are talking of share holdings of Anambra state.
Is IB not paying cooperate tax of 300milion.Though the company has not declared dividend for some times now.when they declare won't the state still collect additional cash flow.Do you know the present value of those share based on appreciation.Dont you know the state being the host state must have gotten serious discount in the deal.
Do you know the level of direct and indirect employment the company must have created. Do you know the level of social responsibility to the state
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by tete7000(m): 2:26pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
And the people it employs are from another planets and not Anambra I believe?
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by Zeebuy: 2:37pm On Jul 19, 2025
theantidote:
This is a handwriting of Peter Obi's supporter, mind you if any man from this geopolitical zone is ever going to become the president of Nigeria it is definitely going to be Charles Soludo and not Obi
You guys tend to support bad people. How come? You're so used to misgovernance such that even if God himself anoints a leader who will bring Nigeria to the light, people like you will oppose him simply because of some silly mentality
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by samuelson06(m): 2:37pm On Jul 19, 2025
osuofia2:
His achievement superceeds your hero. Go to Anambra and the work of his hands. Not by shouting go and verify
Story! The achievements are so many we can't count or too big we can't see? Which exactly? The joke is on you bro.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by franugo(m): 2:47pm On Jul 19, 2025
We have too many people arguing blindly and with emotions...let us take emotions away from this and argue with facts, I will try to do so below:

In 2012, Peter Obi invested the sum of N1,955,535,247.00 (equivalent of approximately US$12,616,356.43 at the then average CBN exchange rate of N155.00/$1.00) to purchase 407,321,264 ordinary shares of the company now known as Sabmiller brewery, which means that then the price per share was around #4.8. fast forward to today, price per share is #57.60 on NGx which means that if Anambra state were to sell their total shares today, they'll realize over #23b, which means their shares have appreciated in naira value by over #21b. Now let's look at the USD value, in 2012, the USD value of the shares was $12m, when you convert the current naira value of the shares i.e #23b to USD, you get $15m, so it's also appreciated in USD value despite the fact that rates have taken a catastrophic nosedive since 2012.
All in all, it seems like a decent investment, I'm not sure why there's so much angst about it, or Maybe my math is not mathing? huh

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/dollar-value-of-peter-obis-investment-for-anambra-now-us3-7million-or-us5-3-million-depending-on-exchange-rate/

Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by loffyloffy: 3:02pm On Jul 19, 2025
jmoore:
https://www.facebook.com/61577986553693/posts/pfbid0zq7ZMqmBXtWJ4AyukqDei33j3FFCm3LFzeTMCUPdj8FoLuprYP6Fa3Xigr7zvRDnl/?app=fbl
It is a pity when people who don't understand basic English turn themselves into writers of rejoinders .

Soludo never said the Brewery is 'Worth Northing' he said he said 'Peter Obi's investment in the Brewery is worth nearly nothing' . If you understand basic English you will know that there is a difference between those two statements.

The Brewery that Obi invested in has been taking over by another Brewery, the value of his original investment in that company is in all probability less than the original amount he invested. This has been stated at various times on this forum.

Yes Soludo exaggerated when he said 'Northing' but only the ignorant will assume that he is talking of the company instead of the actual investment.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by GboyegaD(m): 3:06pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
You mind educating us on how many shares Anambra has then and now? How much was a unit of stock then and how much is it now? Has there been capital gains, have there been dividends?
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by jmoore(op): 3:09pm On Jul 19, 2025
loffyloffy:
It is a pity when people who don't understand basic English turn themselves into writers of rejoinders .

Soludo never said the Brewery is 'Worth Northing' he said he said 'Peter Obi's investment in the Brewery is worth nearly nothing' . If you understand basic English you will know that there is a difference between those two statements.

The Brewery that Obi invested in has been taking over by another Brewery, the value of his original investment in that company is in all probability less than the original amount he invested. This has been stated at various times on this forum.

Yes Soludo exaggerated when he said 'Northing' but only the ignorant will assume that he is talking of the company instead of the actual investment.
Sell the shares na.

Why cling unto shares that have no value?

Sell am..
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by cooljude(m): 3:18pm On Jul 19, 2025
Thiefobi1:
Thank you Gov soludo for not been a tribalistic man.

A man who see the truth and speaks.

History will remember you.
Nigeria will never grow with low IQ individuals.

Study Chinese model in production. At least Obi did not state capture Anambra like your criminal President.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by MrPresident1: 3:55pm On Jul 19, 2025
Lamasta:
Am not sure he's using the brain in governance and politics
If Governor Soludo fails in Anambra with all that brain power, it means that nobody can ever succeed in governing that state.

Soludo represents intellectual governance, if he cannot succeed in anambra, it goes to show us the calibre of people in Anambra state, that they are bad people.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by MrPresident1: 3:56pm On Jul 19, 2025
Double post
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by ernieboy(m): 4:02pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
so why not educate us on the current valuation of those shares
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by BrokenTV: 4:39pm On Jul 19, 2025
Niceguy4ever:
Vote IkukuOma.
Let him liberate Ndi Anambra from this fake solution.
Not a fan of Soludo but who is Ikukuoma. The Soludo we know is better than the APC Ikukuoma of APC, we don't want him to turn Anambra into what Tinubu turned Nigeria into.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by kingsclass: 4:41pm On Jul 19, 2025
Bosman17:
The prof simply debunked a lie… The prof is not in Obi’s level at all. He was one of the most successful Governor of the CBN🙌🏿🙌🏿
But what has he achieved as a Governor,since the last four years.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 5:15pm On Jul 19, 2025
MrPresident1:
Who is the mad person challenging Soludao professorship? Best in BSc, Best in MSC, Best in PhD, best in Professor

If you want to challenge anything, it just cannot be Soludo brain

Is an Atari ajanaku brain
Go school you no gree, na to dey constitute nuisance here and there.

Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by torqque7(m): 5:19pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
Mtcheeww was thinking you would make more sense than soludu but just total waste of my read..
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by torqque7(m): 5:24pm On Jul 19, 2025
osuofia2:
Shame on Obidients, after all the mouth making. It is only Sabmillers brewery that their saint obi can boast of. Funny enough Sabmillers is a private entity with government shares.
FYI, Professor Soludo Is a seasoned world renown professor of Economics. His one of the best CBN governor to date
Omoh these people,sense and una be enemies sha lol..at least he can boast of Sabmiller..what can Soludu boast about?is it the play ground someone called an uninspiring park?which other governor from Anambra can show anything that surpasses PO achievements.
Pls name them I am waiting
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by torqque7(m): 5:26pm On Jul 19, 2025
festacman:
No politician gives any iota of advantage to his political opponent. Ever heard Trump say anything good about the Democrats and their past presidents?

Prof. Soludo is not stupid. He is a governor through politics and politicking and not through academic prowess. Look, if he agrees with Peter Obi as a loyal brother on certain issues, Peter Obi's candidate will unseat him as governor.

It is what it is. It is the way of partisan Politics.
Hmm makes sense
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by Mrexcell(m): 5:56pm On Jul 19, 2025
I used to have a very high respect for soludo before he became anambra governor I never knew he can stoop so low to play dirty petty nigerian politics I thought he was a different nigerian politician with superior ideas.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by Mrexcell(m): 6:05pm On Jul 19, 2025
lionshare:
This is the problem: you don’t understand how owning shares in a public company works. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be insulting a professor.
SabMiller is part of the International Breweries group, which is listed on the NGX. To understand Soludo’s position, you need to find out:
• How many shares Anambra owns in International Breweries,
• The current valuation of these shares,
• And how this compares to the amount originally invested.
If you do this, you’ll understand why you’re wrong on many fronts.
Obi invested just #2b in the brewery and has been paying over #300m of taxes annually to the anambra govt since obi left office over 10yrs ago now do the maths urself to know if the brewery is actually profitable or not.
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by ivandragon: 6:07pm On Jul 19, 2025
gidigbam1:
Let me help break this down:

Anambra State invested $30 million USD in the brewery project, an amount that was equivalent to approximately ₦48 billion at the time.

Today, the value of those shares in SABMiller (now owned by AB InBev) has dropped to less than $3 million USD. This means the original ₦48 billion investment is now worth less than ₦4.8 billion. In essence, Anambra State has lost about $27 million USD or over ₦45 billion.

Now that Anambra is earning ₦300 million annually from that investment, it would take roughly 160 years for Anambra State to recover its initial $30 million investment.

Tell me how that type of investment makes any sense!!!
Your figures are totally off, which makes your statement full of lies... and that is putting it mildly.

What was exchange rate pre-2015 that $30m was equal to N48bn?
Re: A Professor Of What? Soludo's Embarrassing Statement On Sabmiller's Investment by AndroBlaze:
franugo:
We have too many people arguing blindly and with emotions...let us take emotions away from this and argue with facts, I will try to do so below:

In 2012, Peter Obi invested the sum of N1,955,535,247.00 (equivalent of approximately US$12,616,356.43 at the then average CBN exchange rate of N155.00/$1.00) to purchase 407,321,264 ordinary shares of the company now known as Sabmiller brewery, which means that then the price per share was around #4.8. fast forward to today, price per share is #57.60 on NGx which means that if Anambra state were to sell their total shares today, they'll realize over #23b, which means their shares have appreciated in naira value by over #21b. Now let's look at the USD value, in 2012, the USD value of the shares was $12m, when you convert the current naira value of the shares i.e #23b to USD, you get $15m, so it's also appreciated in USD value despite the fact that rates have taken a catastrophic nosedive since 2012.
All in all, it seems like a decent investment, I'm not sure why there's so much angst about it, or Maybe my math is not mathing? huh

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/dollar-value-of-peter-obis-investment-for-anambra-now-us3-7million-or-us5-3-million-depending-on-exchange-rate/
First let me commend you as being the first person to try and make a decent economic argument as to why Soludo might be wrong in what he said. This is highly commendable in the Nairaland we find ourselves where people who shout the loudest and throw insults assume that doing this makes them right.

While your calculations and the idea behind them seem correct, you missed something that any economist or even businessman would have noticed, the value of money then compared to the value of money now.


Simply put, $1 as at 2012 is equivalent to $1.4 now. So if you really wanted to look at what is the equivalent of investing $12,616,356.43 as at 2012, you would have to convert that amount to the dollar value now which is 1.4* 12,616,356.43 = $17.6m.

So simply put, any dollar investment that you made 13 years ago, that is valued less than $17.6m has fallen below the inflation threshold and is a loss. If you repeated this using the naira value that he invested it will still amount to the same thing. Also we have not even considered the opportunity cost of what would have happened if he had invested that money in the least risky portfolio and the returns it would have yielded.

To be fair, this is the way a business man would think, there are other things an Economist would consider though, but one thing for sure is there is little doubt that the shares are worth less now than they were in 2012 using any sensible financial metrics.


EDIT:

I noticed your Sabmiller price was outdated from your screenshot so I also went to check the current value of International Breweries, which is what Sabmiller has morphed into( according to the article you quoted). In short, the share price is currently N13.85, which if you do the math with the previous quantity is valued at N5.6bn which is $3.6m now..... that is truly a terrible investment in every country and language.

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