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Gabrielshow24:
Jesus in glorifying his Father said so himself, that his Father is his God. How does this negate the "God" nature in Jesus?

I have shown you that God's nature can be in any man he chooses to give. Everything you believe in is now useless.

So go back and answer my question accordingly. The one of John 17:3 and Revelation 3:12. Don't skip any of them.

Janosky:


Thank you very much.
Your claim is not in your own Bible.

Hebrew 6:13, no Spirit any where is equal to God.

Ephesians 3:19 said the fullness of God can be in any man. Everything they believe in has been destroyed.

MightySparrow:
Which of the main doctrines of the Christian Faith is not confusion so to speak: the virgin conception of Jesus? His atoning death? His resurrection?, His ascension? His promise of coming back? Resurrection of the dead? New birth?

Everything in Christianity is not logical in the actual sense. If I believe in all above, why can't I believe in a triune God?

Well wasn't speaking nor did I write about it being logical or making carnal logically sense but about having to be truthful and not filled with confusion and contradictions which are false when compared to the scriptures revealed from Genesis to the end. God is not inconsistent nor does he change his word, such infringement isn't of God but human, calling it new revelation or new mysteries and we have to be careful especially when it has to do with who Jesus is. Imagine if someone told you a stone is Jesus just because he referred to himself as foundation or living stone, does that now mean you should worship a stone?

So who Jesus is has to be clear, the way to God has to be clear for people to identify it and walk into it and follow it. Now if someone doesn't want people to go to God then obviously they bring above distractions and confusions.

Who did God say Jesus is, he is my son, who did Jesus say he is, I am the son of God. Clarity, no ambiguity nor indirect terms, even the apostles wrote and spoke on this. Tests the spirits that they testify that Jesus came in flesh, was a human, and not that he was a god.

There's no place in the common new testament text that requires anyone to believe that Jesus is God for them to be saved.

Gabrielshow24:
Are you comparing me to your Father? What do you want him to say? Who by the way is Jesus' Father? Was he not born of a virgin birth? 🤨

Don't you reason at all? The Jews that crucified him understood the underlying concept but some nairaland genius', wrong choice of word🤔...More befitting will be "wise😂", says otherwise!

please look at the picture clearly another one of the many evidences yet you haven't brought one out even though you proclaimed that you would, hope you enjoyed reading through my posts 😁😀

Boomark:
Let me shock you and prove to you that you are very ignorant and has been fooled by satan.

Colossians 2:9 NLT

[9] For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.


Ephesians 3:14-15, 19 NIV
[14] For this reason I kneel before the Father, [15] from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
[19] and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.


All the fullness of God or God's nature or Godhead is what the Father the only true God can fill in any man who he wishes to give it. Paul prayed for the Ephesians that all the fullness of God may be filled in them. And that doesn't make them equal to God.

This is what satan and the antichrist used to deceive all of you. I believe you have never seen this before in your life.

You have failed woefully and I have defeated you in your question all round. Repent and obey the words of Jesus Christ.

chibuezem
Ken4Christ

You are just being redundant, scriptures clearly highlights in 1Jh3:2—We shall be like him!

Our end goal is to be like Jesus who has the fullness of God. It's implicitly stated.
You didn't burst any bubble, your ignorance only reiterates my point, we shall have the fullness of God, the very nature of God, but in identity we are different!

Your ignorance also failed to take into consideration the simple meaning of the word "christian". You really need to go back to that special centre and collect your refund!

Chibuezem:
God the Father though his spirit revealed to me that He is one with His Son Jesus Christ 😂😂😂
Oya ask me again

God being one with his son, doesn't mean he is Jesus.
Jesus being one with the church doesn't mean the church is Jesus Christ though some churches want to Lord over people but that's not the case.

So even God did not tell you that Jesus is God, now when we all meet God what would you tell him was your reason for believing that he God is Jesus Christ

Chibuezem:
I don't understand your question here can you explain better
I Chibuezem was birthed by my parents having two nature's physical (flesh) and spiritual (soul and spirit) . Spiritual will go back to God for judgment while the flesh will rot away. On becoming born again the word of God was planted in me to Host the spirit of God transforming my spiritman into the image and likeness of God as it was in the beginning. Through the word and spirit of God in me I have become a citizen of the kingdom of God to inherit the earth for his glory and ascend into the new earth.
I don't know if I answered the question sha ping me

does being a child of God, sharing his nature and eternity make you God? Yes or no

Chibuezem:
Jesus christ is not a false personality of God neither is the Holyspirit.
John ch 1 :1 to 14 reveals this
In the beginning was the Word (Jesus christ was the Word of God) and the Word was with God (Jesus was with God the Father) and the Word was God (Jesus christ was God) the same was in the beginning with God (Jesus was with God in the beginning) etc

this is your response to this

"suggestion are open to personally interpretation like Peter wrote, 2Pet.1.20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.

If it's not by the Holy Spirit which revealed to Peter that Jesus is the son, not that he is God or another God, but the son of the living God.

In the Genesis 18& 19, you read and YHVH left yet Abraham was before YHVH, because the three angels represented his presence. Jacob saw the face of God, well he saw meet and wrestled with an angel. There are other numerous examples. It's like talking THROUGH your phone to someone, you are not speaking to the phone even though we can speak to our phones, make records and all that.


You are using hints that generations of Hebrew prophets before and after the coming of Jesus Christ interpreted as ONLY ONE GOD AND NONE OTHER, even David didn't call the Messiah YHVH but Adoni, the same term Sarah uses for her husband.

There's more to share but if this much you don't understand nor accept then none will be added to you even that which you have may be taken away.

God is God, he is who he is, let's not join those who which to destroy his personality by creating false personalities for him. 🙏🏾"

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Chibuezem:
You are asking if God the Father told me that He is Jesus Christ right?

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit are of one essence but different personalities that cannot be separated from each other.
God the Father created us
God the Son saved us from our sins, dying on the Cross.
God the Holy spirit reveals to us the truth keeping us in the path of salvation and perfecting us into a church without spot nor wrinkle.

read this yourself and tell the truth, did you answer the question?

gohf:
please look at the picture clearly another one of the many evidences yet you haven't brought one out even though you proclaimed that you would, hope you enjoyed reading through my posts 😁😀

Why are you always talking off point? Even if you failed to see my quotes where I asked you to define God, the world can see that thus you have no excuse! I have brought proof to dismiss your allusions that "you didn't evade my questions" and "I falsely accused you about that". Also, to what end is this snide remark? It doesn't redeem your image of being a l.iar!

Even the picture doesn't answer or add anything tangible to the problem statement of boomark. You should really think before you type—It's become a de_bacle!

MightySparrow:
Which of the main doctrines of the Christian Faith is not confusion so to speak: the virgin conception of Jesus? His atoning death? His resurrection?, His ascension? His promise of coming back? Resurrection of the dead? New birth?

Everything in Christianity is not logical in the actual sense. If I believe in all above, why can't I believe in a triune God?

2 Thessalonians 2:12 YLT98
[12] that they may be judged — all who did not believe the truth, but were well pleased in the unrighteousness.

Just go and check if this spirit of delusion has affected you.

John 16:13 NLT
[13] When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.

The truth the Holy spirit revealed is not confusing

Gabrielshow24:
Gohf, the liar. Looking for cheap scripts to sell.
Here are various instances that I have asked you to define the ontological or epistemological definition of God. If you like deny😂.







I don't accuse people falsely, I am not gohf nor boomark. I back up my conversation with facts. I consider all sides of things before coming to a reasonable conclusion! Since all this while he hasn't given a definition 😂! By their fruits you shall know them!

https://www.nairaland.com/post/134443282

anyone who reads that can see the answer I gave you, meanwhile did you not reject it looking for an unscriptural response 😂

God introduced Himself, saying He is who He is

Who is God, God is God. You can keep looking for what does not exist. You can keep claiming that this statement is a lie all you want, but that is that conversation and this is this.

You accused me of not answering you, but I did
You accused me yet you didn't answer any question I asked you, you focused on creating something to accuse others for, the number of people that say this to you on nairaland should be alarming. Please repent and change your ways

gohf:
anyone who reads that can see the answer I gave you, meanwhile did you not reject it looking for an unscriptural response 😂

God introduced Himself, saying He is who He is

Who is God, God is God. You can keep looking for what does not exist. You can keep claiming that this statement is a lie all you want, but that is that conversation and this is this.

You accused me of not answering you, but I did
You accused me yet you didn't answer any question I asked you, you focused on creating something to accuse others for, the number of people that say this to you on nairaland should be alarming. Please repent and change your ways

The number of people, what number of people?
You are being deceitful, I asked for the ontological and epistemological definition of God, you couldn't provide. This is just damage control to save face! It's really fu-tile, at this point all can see why you can't offer the definition because it negates your stance!

Even a baby can use your definition against you and you are aware of it😂. Step up your game gohf, you are a let-off!

God asserts he is the first and the last, Jesus said the same thing. Even from scripture, all your definitions fall short. Jesus will always fit your definition of God no matter how you define it!

Gabrielshow24:
Why are you always talking off point? Even if you failed to see my quotes where I asked you to define God, the world can see that thus you have no excuse! I have brought proof to dismiss your allusions that "you didn't evade my questions" and "I falsely accused you about that". Also, to what end is this snide remark? It doesn't redeem your image of being a l.iar!

Even the picture doesn't answer or add anything tangible to the problem statement of boomark. You should really think before you type—It's become a de_bacle!

Okay let me answer you and break your back and forth, God is God, the Most High God, the sovereign and only true God, the one who was and he and is to come, the LORD YHVH Almighty, the beginning and the end, the creator of all, the source of all, who formed the light and brought forth his spirit, who formed wisdom and established the foundation of the earth, the one who is eternal and never dying, never died and cannot die. God who is merciful and gracious, compassionate and just, rewarding and judging according to his own will, appointing establishing, pulling down and making strong any he wishes. The one who resides above the heavens, to whom the heaven is his throne and the earth a footstool, whose voice thunders across the universe, who dwells in unapproachable light, the consuming fire whose eyes, Spirit and presence is everywhere, the all knowing God, the covenant keeping God, we call upon his name YHVH and he saves us, he gave us his son Jesus Christ and eternal covenant and promise to redeem us back to himself. From the beginning and even beyond, he alone is God and there is none like Him.

Gabrielshow24:
You are just being redundant, scriptures clearly highlights in 1Jh3:2—We shall be like him!

Our end goal is to be like Jesus who has the fullness of God. It's implicitly stated.
You didn't burst any bubble, your ignorance only reiterates my point, we shall have the fullness of God, the very nature of God, but in identity we are different!

Your ignorance also failed to take into consideration the simple meaning of the word "christian". You really need to go back to that special centre and collect your refund!

Ephesians 3:14-15, 19 NIV
[14] For this reason I kneel before the Father, [15] from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
[19] and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

We are taking about the fullness of God/God's nature.

You were shocked to see that and you have switched to we shall be like him, and meaning of Christian.

Satan has decieved all of you. You can pretend you didn't see it.

Go and answer my question well

Boomark:
I have shown you that God's nature can be in any man he chooses to give. Everything you believe in is now useless.

So go back and answer my question accordingly. The one of John 17:3 and Revelation 3:12. Don't skip any of them.

God's nature, Christ, can be in every man. You are not wise, I can see that clearly. How have you rendered it useless, if I may ask?

Your ignorance won't let you see that all indications points to us being like Jesus who by the way is the fullness of God 😂.

Rendered use.less... Indeed😅

gohf:
Okay let me answer you and break your back and forth, God is God, the Most High God, the sovereign and only true God, the one who was and he and is to come, the LORD YHVH Almighty, the beginning and the end, the creator of all, the source of all, who formed the light and brought forth his spirit, who formed wisdom and established the foundation of the earth, the one who is eternal and never dying, never died and cannot die. God who is merciful and gracious, compassionate and just, rewarding and judging according to his own will, appointing establishing, pulling down and making strong any he wishes. The one who resides above the heavens, to whom the heaven is his throne and the earth a footstool, whose voice thunders across the universe, who dwells in unapproachable light, the consuming fire whose eyes, Spirit and presence is everywhere, the all knowing God, the covenant keeping God, we call upon his name YHVH and he saves us, he gave us his son Jesus Christ and eternal covenant and promise to redeem us back to himself. From the beginning and even beyond, he alone is God and there is none like Him.

Gabrielshow24 I call the heavens as witness and those on nairaland that I have "defined to you who God is" he is not a what but a who, not an essence but a person

Arian, FxMasterz, MaxInDHouse, achorladey,
jimRohn or Kobojunkie , maynman, Dtruthspeaker, Image123, DrJones109, Jesusjnr2022, LordReed, Jaephoenix, JessicaRabbit, Knownunknown, DeepSight, BBIA HellVictorinho6, SIXFEETUNDER, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Bacteriologist, FRANCISTOWN, SIRTee15, Aemmyjah, TheSourcerer,
Busybrain2233, 1Sharon, TakeNigeriaBack,
Botragelad, isan, Fourthpredator,
seun, hopefullandlord, bobestman, Lorrayne, HardMirror, Hahn, SlawG, albreezy4eva, Muslim, Dominique, Mrbroke, EnemyofGod2, kkins25, Wilgrea7, A001, Maynthemayn, achorladey, Jozzy4, MightySparrow, NowYouKnow, TemmyT002, johnw47, boomark, Emusan, Dtruthspeaker, Gabrielshow24, rottennaija

I stand before God's record and those here that I have said who God revealed himself to be and let it count for me on the day of judgement.

gohf:
boomark see this one quoting steep, steep at least you can see this one referring to God as a "concept" and not a person. Boomark when you asked him to define God, did show24 give a performance or he went dancing around accusing you of not answering things he imagined and filmed in his own mind?

When I asked you question you dodge and hide, John 1:1 called Jesus God, if you like bury your head in the sand, it doesn't change the truth.

Boomark:
Ephesians 3:14-15, 19 NIV
[14] For this reason I kneel before the Father, [15] from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
[19] and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

We are taking about the fullness of God/God's nature.

You were shocked to see that and you have switched to we shall be like him, and meaning of Christian.

Satan has decieved all of you. You can pretend you didn't see it.

Go and answer my question well

John 1:1 Jesus is God.

Gabrielshow24:
The number of people, what number of people?
You are being deceitful, I asked for the ontological and epistemological definition of God, you couldn't provide. This is just damage control to save face! It's really fu-tile, at this point all can see why you can't offer the definition because it negates your stance!

Even a baby can use your definition against you and you are aware of it😂. Step up your game gohf, you are a let-off!

God asserts he is the first and the last, Jesus said the same thing. Even from scripture, all your definitions fall short. Jesus will always fit your definition of God no matter how you define it!

guy you are viewing me through your eyes and personality, I am not you, my wisdom is different from yours don't forget the James I shared with you. I have no face to save leave those this for those who are proud and ambitious.

Look Jesus said in Matthew 11:25 he has hidden this from the likes of you and revealed it to the babes that give such definition, because to enter the kingdom of God is to enter as a little child.

gohf:
Gabrielshow24 I call the heavens as witness and those on nairaland that I have "defined to you who God is" he is not a what but a who, not an essence but a person

Arian, FxMasterz, MaxInDHouse, achorladey,
jimRohn or Kobojunkie , maynman, Dtruthspeaker, Image123, DrJones109, Jesusjnr2022, LordReed, Jaephoenix, JessicaRabbit, Knownunknown, DeepSight, BBIA HellVictorinho6, SIXFEETUNDER, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Bacteriologist, FRANCISTOWN, SIRTee15, Aemmyjah, TheSourcerer,
Busybrain2233, 1Sharon, TakeNigeriaBack,
Botragelad, isan, Fourthpredator,
seun, hopefullandlord, bobestman, Lorrayne, HardMirror, Hahn, SlawG, albreezy4eva, Muslim, Dominique, Mrbroke, EnemyofGod2, kkins25, Wilgrea7, A001, Maynthemayn, achorladey, Jozzy4, MightySparrow, NowYouKnow, TemmyT002, johnw47, boomark, Emusan, Dtruthspeaker, Gabrielshow24, rottennaija

I stand before God's record and those here that I have said who God revealed himself to be and let it count for me on the day of judgement.

Please! Please!! Please!!!

Remove my name from the list of those you are calling for your argument in the absence of any organized group doing what Jesus called God's will just count me out.

Thanks!

Steep:
When I asked you question you dodge and hide, John 1:1 called Jesus God, if you like bury your head in the sand, it doesn't change the truth.

is that what you felt I did?

John 1:1 never called Jesus God but you claim it did. theos en ho logos is what is written there and not Jesus is God but steep you have never listened to the truth so why should I waste my time telling it to you, it's not the first time we have conversed but you feel satisfied to believe I buried my head in the sand. Okay I agree I did, enjoy, say it Everytime you speak of me, feel proud about it let it give you joy and peace ✌🏾

MaxInDHouse:
Please! Please!! Please!!!

Remove my name from the list of those you are calling for your argument in the absence of any organized group doing what Jesus called God's will just count me out.

Thanks!

even if for one minute you could behave as a child of God and not as a propaganda for your religion maybe I would look at you differently but this is how your heart really is, it affects how you see things and how you react to things. Look Max I won't apologize to you for telling you the truth and rejecting your false approach initially, at least have the humility to hide in the background when you were not specifically mentioned, you don't have to have the need to make it about you when it is not.

Gabrielshow24:
The number of people, what number of people?
You are being deceitful, I asked for the ontological and epistemological definition of God, you couldn't provide. This is just damage control to save face! It's really fu-tile, at this point all can see why you can't offer the definition because it negates your stance!

Even a baby can use your definition against you and you are aware of it😂. Step up your game gohf, you are a let-off!

God asserts he is the first and the last, Jesus said the same thing. Even from scripture, all your definitions fall short. Jesus will always fit your definition of God no matter how you define it!

"Step up your game"
We encounter people like this, who think it's all fun and games because your salvation is a joke to them, this conversation is just entertainment to them.

Chibuezem:
I have answered his question already. The revelation is personal but concludes that trinity is true 😁 Oya bash me.
The truth is my revelation from God cannot convince you enough compared to the one that God will give you. All you need to do is to ask with openness of the heart and He will reveal all things through the Holyspirit who is the teacher and comforter 😊

which one is oya bash you, is that how little you think of my intent to ask you, bro calm down.

Even if God gives a revelation you need to have the right interpretation and understanding of it, that's why the Holy Spirit teaches and what he teaches doesn't contradict God's word and nature:love.

gohf:
is that what you felt I did?

John 1:1 never called Jesus God but you claim it did. theos en ho logos is what is written there and not Jesus is God but steep you have never listened to the truth so why should I waste my time telling it to you, it's not the first time we have conversed but you feel satisfied to believe I buried my head in the sand. Okay I agree I did, enjoy, say it Everytime you speak of me, feel proud about it let it give you joy and peace ✌🏾

John 1:1 said the word was God. That makes the word God, why do you guys avoid this part, be honest with yourselves.
Jesus describe his persistence using "I am" which is God's name in the old testament. A name that denotes God's eternal being.

Steep:
John 1:1 said the word was God. That makes the word God, why do you guys avoid this part, be honest with yourselves.
Jesus describe his persistence using "I am" which is God's name in the old testament. A name that denotes God's eternal being.

so to you I am means God? So if I say I am gohf, it means God gohf?

Anyway we are getting somewhere you have gone from Jesus is God to the word was God, but steep I seriously have zero interest in having this conversation with you again, you can view my topics to understand John 1:1 theos en ho logos

Go and find out what the Hebrews which John was, understood the logos to mean

In grammatical terms both theos and logo are subject terms, do you understand what that means, anyway like I said I have zero interest, I have told you the truth you refused it, so leave it like that. Try reading that phrase in context, okay, if you can try that praise God. Bye

gohf:
Gabrielshow24 I call the heavens as witness and those on nairaland that I have "defined to you who God is" he is not a what but a who, not an essence but a person

Arian, FxMasterz, MaxInDHouse, achorladey,
jimRohn or Kobojunkie , maynman, Dtruthspeaker, Image123, DrJones109, Jesusjnr2022, LordReed, Jaephoenix, JessicaRabbit, Knownunknown, DeepSight, BBIA HellVictorinho6, SIXFEETUNDER, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Bacteriologist, FRANCISTOWN, SIRTee15, Aemmyjah, TheSourcerer,
Busybrain2233, 1Sharon, TakeNigeriaBack,
Botragelad, isan, Fourthpredator,
seun, hopefullandlord, bobestman, Lorrayne, HardMirror, Hahn, SlawG, albreezy4eva, Muslim, Dominique, Mrbroke, EnemyofGod2, kkins25, Wilgrea7, A001, Maynthemayn, achorladey, Jozzy4, MightySparrow, NowYouKnow, TemmyT002, johnw47, boomark, Emusan, Dtruthspeaker, Gabrielshow24, rottennaija

I stand before God's record and those here that I have said who God revealed himself to be and let it count for me on the day of judgement.

Nobody argued that God wasn't a person🤔? This is finally your definition of God, after all the hide and seek stunts you have been pulling😁. These boundaries or constraints you have "defined", do they fit Jesus yes or no?

gohf:
"Step up your game"
We encounter people like this, who think it's all fun and games because your salvation is a joke to them, this conversation is just entertainment to them.

It's a direct response to your shenanigans. You have accused falsely🧐, you have also made yourself into a liar that you were forced to give a definition for God, a definition which I will now use😁. We will take every attribute in your definition and test them out on Jesus🧐!

Steep:
John 1:1 Jesus is God.

John 17:3, God the Father is the only true God.


Whenever you see that for Jesus you let me know.