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Lioness5280:
Please define a laborer for me ?

It is not the definition that matters but the context and type

In Economics
We distinguish between Labour and Capital

Capital in the case of the mine would be the owners those who take profit and allocate it
Labour would mean those who go into the pit and sometimes die
In South Africa White people almost always are in control of wealth Capital and mines

Zulus go into the pits


Type of labourer
A labourer is a person working for another person
A Labourer may be forced or voluntary e.g Many Indians were brought to Africa and other places as INDENTURED Labourer
An indentured labourer is a person who agrees (or is forced) to work for a specific period of time—usually several years—without pay, in exchange for something like:

Passage to another country (e.g., from India to the Caribbean)

Food and shelter

Land or small wages after the contract ends

Many of the so called coloured people are descendants of indentured labourers and in the South African colour code ranked above Zu



Zulus should not boast to other black Africans about infrastructure as if you are better

You are still servants in what is supposed to be your country

Spectators

aribisala0:
It is not the definition that matters but the context and type

In Economics
We distinguish between Labour and Capital

Capital in the case of the mine would be the owners those who take profit and allocate it
Labour would mean those who go into the pit and sometimes die
In South Africa White people almost always are in control of wealth Capital and mines

Zulus go into the pits


Type of labourer

A Labourer may me forced or voluntary e.g Many Indians were brought to Africa and other places as INDENTURED Labourer
An indentured labourer is a person who agrees (or is forced) to work for a specific period of time—usually several years—without pay, in exchange for something like:

Passage to another country (e.g., from India to the Caribbean)

Food and shelter

Land or small wages after the contract ends

Many of the so called coloured people are descendants of indentured labourers and in the South African colour code ranked above Zu



Zulus should not boast to other black Africans about infrastructure as if you are better

You are still servants in what is supposed to be your country

Spectators

I never asked for any history or your opinions or what you think Zulus should or should not be. I asked you what a labourer is...can you give me a simple answer?

A popular SAN here in Nigeria, bears his late wife's surname, he changed his name legally by deed poll

Lioness5280:
I never asked for any history or your opinions or what you think Zulus should or should not be. I asked you what a labourer is...can you give me a simple answer?

That is the answer to your question
If you cannot comprehend that is your personal problem

aribisala0:
That is the answer to your question
If you cannot comprehend that is your personal problem

Nope. You gave me a long rant filled with your opinions ," history" and whatnot. I'm yet to get my answer. If you have it ,please help me out with that definition 🙏

Lioness5280:
Nope. You gave me a long rant filled with your opinions ," history" and whatnot. I'm yet to get my answer. If you have it ,please help me out with that definition 🙏

Read it

The answer is there
I know the Zulu education was watered down but look for a neighbour with sense to help you translate

DeepSight:
Anyone who pays the bills is the head of the family. Period.

A plutocracy. Sounds borderline nihilistic.

JuanDeDios:
A plutocracy. Sounds borderline nihilistic.

Tufiakwa! Abomination. Me take my wife name inside my house has the protector, provider and the one who will take the bullet for everybody else in the house.

No wonder South African men can't marry other African women. They will be bullied.

Why does it seem like you only comment on SA related matters? What's your story?

seppuku:
Tufiakwa! Abomination. Me take my wife name inside my house has the protector, provider and the one who will take the bullet for everybody else in the house.

No wonder South African men can't marry other African women. They will be bullied.

Lioness5280:
The Nigerian economy is soley on the hands of Nigerian men yet they have the highest poverty rate in the world with SA blacks being the richest and more well looked after than them. Please make it make sense.

You don't need to be triggered and into your feelings obviously as a SA blackman. Nigeria is not perfect yet is still one of the biggest Economy in Africa. We don’t need our colonial masters to run our economy for us.

How many black SA are doing well around the world? Your guess is as good as mine. Two black Nigerian men still made Forbes list of most successful Immigrants in the USA. The richest black man on earth is also a Nigerian.. sorry, we ain't in the same league.

All you do is cry and blame other Africans yet work in mines for your slaveemasters.

Samantha125:
Why does it seem like you only comment on SA related matters? What's your story?

I have been active on this forum for a very long time na na and commented on a plethora of issues across different threads and categories however my life is now dedicated on exposing the hypocrisy of a certain Southern country because of my experiences with it in the past and I have explained this to your comrades severally

It's not that complicated.

AJSfan:
You don't need to be triggered and into your feelings obviously as a SA blackman. Nigeria is not perfect yet is still one of the biggest Economy in Africa. We don’t need our colonial masters to run our economy for us.

How many black SA are doing well around the world? Your guess is as good as mine. Two black Nigerian men still made Forbes list of most successful Immigrants in the USA. The richest black man on earth is also a Nigerian.. sorry, we ain't in the same league.

All you do is cry and blame other Africans yet work in mines for your slaveemasters.

Don't mind them 90% of their Black rich people acquired their wealth through corrupt redistribution of wealth via corrupt BEE tenders, inflating invoices and partnering with foreign white monopoly syndicates that give them kickbacks, not hard entrepreneurial work.

Don't let anyone deceive you.

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Namaster:
But a husband who not only accepts that but DROPS his own surname to take his wife's name is CURSED!

Okay sir.
Please give us the name of the person who dropped this curse. Thank you.

Lioness5280:
And yet are strong enough to mine and build infrastructure while you go around looking for "hosts" like a parasite?

Okay.

How are you dedicated to exposing this certain Southern country when you never even open threads about it?

And what do you mean SA men don't marry other African ladies when this year alone I posted videos of three SA men getting married to Nigerian ladies? Just because it doesn't happen often and they don't grandstand about it, it doesn't mean they don't date or marry other nationals... The difference is that they live with their foreign wives here in SA while you guys prefer living in your foreign wives' countries.

From the look of things, it's like one SA lady broke your heart and now you have a hidden agenda against SA... Because honestly, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

seppuku:
I have been active on this forum for a very long time na na and commented on a plethora of issues across different threads and categories however my life is now dedicated on exposing the hypocrisy of a certain Southern country because of my experiences with it in the past and I have explained this to your comrades severally

It's not that complicated.

Samantha125:
How are you dedicated to exposing this certain Southern country when you never even open threads about it?

I respond to any misinterpretation, omissions or misrepresentations I observe on threads.

If you find me telling any lies, please feel free to correct me at any point in time.

Samantha125:
And what do you mean SA men don't marry other African ladies when this year alone I posted videos of three SA men getting married to Nigerian ladies? Just because it doesn't happen often and they don't grandstand about it, it doesn't mean they don't date or marry other nationals... The difference is that they live with their foreign wives here in SA while you guys prefer living in your foreign wives' countries.

From the look of things, it's like one SA lady broke your heart and now you have a hidden agenda against SA... Because honestly, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Three SA boys is hardly a convincing example. SA men do marry "foreign ladies" but not as frequent as say Zimbabweans or Nigerians because they are not as exposed globally and so do not come across a variety of women of different nationalities. Whether you deem that a good or bad thing depends on the perspective of how liberal or conservative you are.

As far as SA ladies breaking my heart, sorry to disappoint you but did not happen. I have chowed a good number of your ladies when I was obsessed with their big Nyanshes but not anymore.

My primary gripe with SA is on the issue of migrants, Xenophobia and my experiences in your country when I spent time there.

Like I said. Its not that complicated.

Responding to "misinterpretations or omissions" without any concrete evidence is nothing but just unsubstantiated allegations... And if indeed you were dedicated to exposing this certain Southern country, I believe you'd have already opened a number of threads in relation to it with evidence to support your allegations.

In your previous comment you stated how SA men can't marry other African women, but now you decided to contradict yourself by admitting to the fact that some of them do marry them.

Your entire narrative has a whole hidden agenda written all over it.

seppuku:
I respond to any misinterpretation, omissions or misrepresentations I observe on threads.

If you find me telling any lies, please feel free to correct me at any point in time.




Three SA boys is hardly a convincing example. SA men do marry "foreign ladies" but not as frequent as say Zimbabweans or Nigerians because they are not as exposed globally and so do not come across a variety of women of different nationalities. Whether you deem that a good or bad thing depends on the perspective of how liberal or conservative you are.

As far as SA ladies breaking my heart, sorry to disappoint you but did not happen. I have chowed a good number of your ladies when I was obsessed with their big Nyanshes but not anymore.

My primary gripe with SA is on the issue of migrants, Xenophobia and my experiences in your country when I spent time there.

Like I said. Its not that complicated.

Samantha125:
A few days ago you were just telling us how you prefer a male reproductive anatomy over a female one, what does that makes you?🤔🤔🤔

Lolzzzz. I know you understood what I meant. Male reproductive organs are cleaner and does not discharge blood every month. That's something to be proud of as a man! Saying that doesn't make me homosexual. I'm very much attracted to your gender

Lioness5280:
How many more SA men became homosexuals after the law was passed?...an estimate atleast,since you are in the know.

A Lot of them ma'am

Same way this law would cause more SA men to start bearing their wives' surnames after marriage

Sounds like something a member of the LGBTQ would say... It's okay if you prefer your fellow men over the opposite gender, you're not the first and surely not the last... You don't have to be in denial, this is a faceless forum...

Jman06:
Lolzzzz. I know you understood what I meant. Male reproductive organs are cleaner and does not discharge blood every month. That's something to be proud of as a man! Saying that doesn't make me homosexual. I'm very much attracted to your gender

Samantha125:
Responding to "misinterpretations or omissions" without any concrete evidence is nothing but just unsubstantiated allegations... And if indeed you were dedicated to exposing this certain Southern country, I believe you'd have already opened a number of threads in relation to it with evidence to support your allegations.

You haven't been following me for a while thus the above statement.

Samantha125:
In your previous comment you stated how SA men can't marry other African women, but now you decided to contradict yourself by admitting to the fact that some of them do marry them.

There are always exceptions to the rule of generalizations thus the clarification.

Samantha125:
Your entire narrative has a whole hidden agenda written all over it.

I have clearly stated my motivations to you nana. If you wish to stick to whatever your mind is conjuring up well I can't help that. Believe what you will.

JuanDeDios:
A plutocracy. Sounds borderline nihilistic.

Why?

I don't need to follow you to know that you're always gunning for every SA related thread on this forum... I've opened a new thread, so feel free to go and do what you do best, your food is ready...😂😂😂

And I didn't see any exceptions when you stated that SA men can't marry African ladies...😂😂😂... It's funny how you're now trying to twist the whole statement just so it could suite your narrative.

You motivations lack substance and don't make any sense... Show us your dedication by opening threads with evidence to support your allegations, until then, you'll just be sounding like one of those bitter Nigerians who couldn't have their way here in SA, that's if you've ever been here and have now sworn to defame anything that has to do with SA, we all know how you guys don't take rejection too well... And it's only a specific type of Nigerians with this mindset... Because we have plenty of your people in this country doing legitimate jobs and minding their business with no issues.

seppuku:
You haven't been following me for a while thus the above statement.



There are always exceptions to the rule of generalizations thus the clarification.



I have clearly stated my motivations to you nana. If you wish to stick to whatever your mind is conjuring up well I can't help that. Believe what you will.

Samantha125:
I don't need to follow you to know that you're always gunning for every SA related thread on this forum... I've opened a new thread, so feel free to go and do what you do best, your food is ready...😂😂😂

And I didn't see any exceptions when you stated that SA men can't marry African ladies...😂😂😂... It's funny how you're now trying to twist the whole statement just so it could suite your narrative.

You motivations lack substance and don't make any sense... Show us your dedication by opening threads with evidence to support your allegations, until then, you'll just be sounding like one of those bitter Nigerians who couldn't have their way here in SA, that's if you've ever been here and have now sworn to defame anything that has to do with SA, we all know how you guys don't take rejection too well... And it's only a specific type of Nigerians with this mindset... Because we have plenty of your people in this country doing legitimate jobs and minding their business with no issues.

1. Opening threads is not a measure of my dedication to my point of view nana. All I have to do is respond.

2. I have posted a myriad of evidence. All you need do is search my responses.

3. I did have my way with your ladies when I was stationed in your country so I have no regrets. Don't worry I didn't need free health services while I was there nor did I take any of your jobs or even get paid in rands. Don't mistake me for Okechukwu who arrived from Enugu just yesterday.

4. I am not bitter Mosadi, I have passed that childish stage of life. I speak what I have seen and continue to see. If you ever catch me LIEING about your country please feel free to correct me and put me to shame otherwise move aside and let free speech reign because unlike your people who are xenophobic in nature, here on nairaland we welcome dissenting voices.

Oh! So my people are now xenophobic in nature? I thought you said there are exceptions to the rule generalisations? See how you keep contradicting yourself? Makes me wonder why your people keep coming to a proud xenophobic nation...🤔🤔🤔

And if my people are xenophobic in nature, then that makes your people white powder sellers in nature as well.

You claim not to be bitter, yet you've made it your mission to gaslight, degrade,
demean, dehumanize, and defame anything that has to do with SA and black South Africans in general, talk about perfect signs of a bitter narcissist... Not long ago, you were just lying about how SA men can't marry other African women, I corrected you and you tried to twist the statement to suit your narrative.

Well, keep up the good work and I shall be opening more SA related threads for you to keep feeding your cravings... Have a good evening.

seppuku:
1. Opening threads is not a measure of my dedication to my point of view nana. All I have to do is respond.

2. I have posted a myriad of evidence. All you need do is search my responses.

3. I did have my way with your ladies when I was stationed in your country so I have no regrets. Don't worry I didn't need free health services while I was there nor did I take any of your jobs or even get paid in rands. Don't mistake me for Okechukwu who arrived from Enugu just yesterday.

4. I am not bitter Mosadi, I have passed that childish stage of life. I speak what I have seen and continue to see. If you ever catch me LIEING about your country please feel free to correct me and put me to shame otherwise move aside and let free speech reign because unlike your people who are xenophobic in nature, here on nairaland we welcome dissenting voices.

Arogbenga:
This can shift and change the general, cultural and biblical ideas that made the man head of the family.

Where in the bible is any of the many delusions you practice stated? Nonsense and eegridient! 😒

Samantha125:
Oh! So my people are now xenophobic in nature? I thought you said there are exceptions to the rule generalisations? See how you keep contradicting yourself? Makes me wonder why your people keep coming to a proud xenophobic nation...🤔🤔🤔

1.There are always outliers and nothing is completely black or completely white. Generalizations are often true but never always true.

2. Black foreigners/migrants keep coming to your country for economic reason and your liberal constitution regardless of how xenophobic in nature your people are and they will continue to come because of that. The two facts can exist simultaneously.

Samantha125:
And if my people are xenophobic in nature, then that makes your people white powder sellers in nature as well.

Nigerian drug syndicates do thrive within your society. There is no denying this.

Samantha125:
You claim not to be bitter, yet you've made it your mission to gaslight, degrade,
demean, dehumanize, and defame anything that has to do with SA and black South Africans in general, talk about perfect signs of a bitter narcissist... Not long ago, you were just lying about how SA men can't marry other African women, I corrected you and you tried to twist the statement to suit your narrative.

1. I am doing to South Africans exactly what they are doing to other voiceless black Foreigners, which includes demeaning, dehumanizing and defaming. it's not personal, it's payback.

2. Never lied that SA men do not marry other AFricans. A general statement is often true but never always true. If you don't understand that you need to go back to varsity.

Samantha125:
Well, keep up the good work and I shall be opening more SA related threads for you to keep feeding your cravings... Have a good evening.

And I shall be here always.

Chao nana!