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Re: This topic has been removed by Nobody: 3:15pm On Sep 25, 2025
All this religious bigots. What do you know? Just coming here to showcase your ignorance. Allow the owner of this thread to pour out his knowledge to those that are willing to learn with no shadow of doubt by opening their eyes to see what is truly hidden from us. Create your own thread if you want to argue.
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Re: This topic has been removed by Hhh4444: 6:30pm On Sep 25, 2025
Ourtruth247:
Old movies

The controllers of our world always tell us what they do. They either do it by hiding the truth in plain sight or by literally telling us through movies or other forms of media.

Based on my research, this is a spiritual principle that they abide by where they have to tell you the truth, and when they do and you don't see it, or you reject it, then they are exonerated from any spiritual repercussions of their action because by refusing to act on what they show or tell us, we have tacitly given them our approval to do whatever they do.

During the mid 1900s, movies and old style animations were the way they showed us the truth. I recently started watching a lot of the early movies and cartoons and they are riddled with so much hidden messages, occult symbolism and code.

There is an interesting scene from a movie released in the 1940s titled "Meet me in st louis." In this scene a family is visiting the World fair in St Louis and the little girl says: "Big waves came up and flooded the whole city, and when the water went back it was all muddy and horrible, full of dead bodies"

And then in another conversation she says: "They will never tear it down will they", then her papa replies "They better not"

I attached a screenshot of the scene with subtitles

In my opinion this is literally the controllers using this scene to reveal what happened and what they did to most of those buildings, and they do this all the time in a lot of movies, you just have to open your eyes.
op is very right on this... They reveal alot in old movies.check out movies like:
1. Dark city
2. They live
3.cabin in the wood
4. Matrix
5. Contagion(this one informed us about COVID)
6. True man show
7. The platform
and many more I can't remember right now
Re: This topic has been removed by 3exe3: 6:47pm On Sep 25, 2025
Ourtruth247:
Old movies

The controllers of our world always tell us what they do. They either do it by hiding the truth in plain sight or by literally telling us through movies or other forms of media.

Based on my research, this is a spiritual principle that they abide by where they have to tell you the truth, and when they do and you don't see it, or you reject it, then they are exonerated from any spiritual repercussions of their action because by refusing to act on what they show or tell us, we have tacitly given them our approval to do whatever they do.

During the mid 1900s, movies and old style animations were the way they showed us the truth. I recently started watching a lot of the early movies and cartoons and they are riddled with so much hidden messages, occult symbolism and code.

There is an interesting scene from a movie released in the 1940s titled "Meet me in st louis." In this scene a family is visiting the World fair in St Louis and the little girl says: "Big waves came up and flooded the whole city, and when the water went back it was all muddy and horrible, full of dead bodies"

And then in another conversation she says: "They will never tear it down will they", then her papa replies "They better not"

I attached a screenshot of the scene with subtitles

In my opinion this is literally the controllers using this scene to reveal what happened and what they did to most of those buildings, and they do this all the time in a lot of movies, you just have to open your eyes.
there is a movie that described charlie kirk death . there are several that described september 11
Re: This topic has been removed by antidisestablis: 12:00am On Sep 26, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
Since you are a Christian, it is good that our conversation can be predicated on the Bible. If so, then your rejecting the idea of Heaven and Hell as written in the Bible means you don't genuinely and completely believe in the word of Christ. Perhaps you don't have good understanding of the scripture, or you never had a spiritual encounter and prophetic revelations, or you are just plainly befuddled by unbelief.... So consider the foundation of your problems, search your heart if you truly believe the word of Christ, otherwise u need to seek help.
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Now you said Bible is not complete, this is a statement generally heard amongst the agnostics or the atheist, a Christian uttering such is joking with his faith and salvation, in fact that Christian may not even be saved in the first place. So go and examine your claim to salvation if it's truly genuine.

And if it's genuine, then you need to do a lot of research about the historicity of the Bible, and how it was preserved over centuries, and how it was canonized. Try to understand the difference between the canonized books, apocryphals and the modalities for the segmentation. A Christian may have doubts, but if you understand that Jesus, Peter, Paul, and the Apostles all read the old Testament diligently and quoted verbatim from it diligently, then your trust in the old testament, at least the ones they quoted from should stir up.
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Now you spoke about white bringing Christianity to us and all those racial sentiment that might make you get cynical about the Bible, that's okay, but there's some gap in your understanding of how the Bible and Christianity truly came to us:

1. The whites didn't bring or pioneer Christianity. The whites just happen into the history of how Christianity was spread, just as everyone has a stake in spreading it till Jesus will come.
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2. Christianity was brought and first spread by Christ, then by the Apostles of Christ who were jews, not whites, then they took it to the Greeks, Romans, Asians, even to the Jews, etc after Christ died. if you read your Bible well. Remember even majority of the Jews dint accept Christianity even till now, and Christianity was a very minority group or sect whose pioneers had to die for the truth. I'm still talking of the Apostles and Christ here. So does this look like whites dying to spread Christianity?

After their mathyr by the whites, you see, it was even whites that first started killing the adherents of Christianity. It was Romans, who are white that killed Christ. So understand the history....
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Now when Christianity refused to die till the 4th century, note that at this point, the book of the believers was old Testament as kept by the legacy of the jews, and the epistles of the Apostles that was written and sent to the churches. So theres no interference by white as of now.

The so called real interference began during the period of Constantine in 4th century. And you should understand Constantine was not a Christian, he was pagan just as his society was pagan because history tells us the names of the gods, temples and deity the society subscribed to in Rome.

But in the midst of this paganistic and polytheistic milieu, Christianity continued to grow though during the reign of emperor Nero before Constantine, Christians were still being cracked down until Constantine try to use Christianity as a political chip to consolidate his reign, make history for himself, and made it a religion the state took interest in. Notice that government was monarchical this period. And Constantine was the sole controller, this period was the period Catholicism was Instituted and turned to an institution with tentacles with the state. It was independent before this period.
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Understand that state interference into Christianity was political not spiritual. If you understand this point, you will also understand how political institutions can lash unto any mechanism to further their interest. See the way Westerners use Islam to create political problems in the world today.
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This interference lead to a whole lot of corruption in Catholicism and in the truth, but it never affected the old Testament books because they already existed. The books were only compiled this time, not edited. Epistles were also gathered together, not edited. And by then the church knew which book was recent, which book was controversial and which book held Apostolic authority through history. Note that compilation of these books was done for history, teaching not for the general access by the populace because the church hoards it.
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Catholicism became a political institution using religious authority to consolidate power, since their power also has political backing ... This led to what is called the dark ages.... Where the light of the Gospel was killed and Christianity/Catholicism was used by the state to engender any sentiment or political agenda. This is what led to the period known as dark ages because many biblical truth was hidden from people, and the state+Catholics hoard and used religion to exercise veto power... The spirituality of the scripture has been stripped and Gospel turned to the Phariseestic model of the period of Christ.
This continued Until the period of Reformation when the truth came back to light and genuine Christians arose to start fighting authority of the then political church and the Reformers starts translating the scripture from Latin/Greek to English, German for general access. Thank the Reformers like Calvin, Martin Luther, etc, this was the beginning of light that began to spread gospel in its true form and mandate and Europe began to war against monarchical rule which had used Catholicism to control people, to kill people for blasphemy, to champion inquisition and crusaders. This was the work of the Whites that that merged religion and the state (monarchy) to perpetuate their interest......
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When Europe began to war against monarchical rule during the period of Renaissance/Reformation period, of course missionary work started by private individuals who have seen the light and caught the call of the Gospel. Of course Catholicism was already a giant, however Reformers who cut away from Catholicism began spreading the Gospel to Europe, America, Africa.. Catholics also join, and at this point was when Europe began slave trade.

It is very important to understand that Europe that began slave trade were merchants and political Europe. Not the reformers or missionaries, though some unscrupulous missionaries were complicit and aligned with the traders. So once again, the new proliferation of the religion was seen as a tool that could be used in their colonization agenda. Remember it's the reformers that fought racism and ended slave trade in America.

The coincidence of missionary work and slave trade into Africa can make you think the religion came because of need for slaves, but that's not the truth, the religion was only used by the slave merchants against the grain of the Gospel. (Coincidence) Just as Constantine used it to consolidate power, and the dark ages used it for control against the intent of Christ or the Apostles that founded it without the input of the whites
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Up till today, the fusion of religion and state is always a tool not for salvation but for exploitation. So, any form where you see religion, pastors, fusing with the state it's always an attempt to use religion to further political and personal interest... That is what man is capable of, corrupting the intent of scripture. That's the problem of religion all over the world. The problem is man using it for exploitation, not the letter of the scripture being the problem....
This is why Christian spirituality is different from Christian religion
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You just summarize the 2000 years history of Christianity. Did you do church history in the seminary?
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 5:18am On Sep 26, 2025
antidisestablis:
You just summarize the 2000 years history of Christianity. Did you do church history in the seminary?
At all, I never went to the seminary, but I've only found grace from Christ for saving me few years ago from darkness and showing me light through his revelation of the scripture to me.

This is just knowledge from my personal study trying to understand the history of my Faith and the truth about the history of the scripture.... After Christ revealed his word to me prophetically
Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng:
Damn!
You put things in perspective for me

I used to think it was a mud flood that happened as in the case of Noah. I knew humans are the ones causing global warming and climate change, so therefore I knew it couldn't have been God that sent the flood. Humans brought it upon themselves using the advanced technology they had back then, same way humans are using their current technology to cause destruction as in the case of Russia and Ukraine

But then, if it was a mud flood, people would have been alive...they'd just have to stay on the top floors of buildings till the mud flood passes. But this thought had a crucial flaw when I read one of your older post where you said there are pictures of buildings with no one in sight...like literally no one. Like abandoned fine building. They even had moss on the body of the building... almost like it was soaked under water for a while.


Besides if it was an actual mud flood, most buildings would have been covered in mud.


Where did the people all gohuh

Now it seems to click. They lost their lives in the flood. If buildings could go below ground, then bodies, especially dead bodies of few feet, could also be buried below ground easily

No wonder most of giants remains which have been found were below ground to a surprising depth. The world is a burial ground of ancient people and technology. Even the so called 'desert sands'

So my new theory is that there was a water flood, the effects of the massive water flood then left a mud flood...till the water dried smiley


'Noah and his sons...taking animals of different kinds...'


Just my theory though. Thank you



Ourtruth247:
Old movies

The controllers of our world always tell us what they do. They either do it by hiding the truth in plain sight or by literally telling us through movies or other forms of media.

Based on my research, this is a spiritual principle that they abide by where they have to tell you the truth, and when they do and you don't see it, or you reject it, then they are exonerated from any spiritual repercussions of their action because by refusing to act on what they show or tell us, we have tacitly given them our approval to do whatever they do.

During the mid 1900s, movies and old style animations were the way they showed us the truth. I recently started watching a lot of the early movies and cartoons and they are riddled with so much hidden messages, occult symbolism and code.

There is an interesting scene from a movie released in the 1940s titled "Meet me in st louis." In this scene a family is visiting the World fair in St Louis and the little girl says: "Big waves came up and flooded the whole city, and when the water went back it was all muddy and horrible, full of dead bodies"

And then in another conversation she says: "They will never tear it down will they", then her papa replies "They better not"

I attached a screenshot of the scene with subtitles

In my opinion this is literally the controllers using this scene to reveal what happened and what they did to most of those buildings, and they do this all the time in a lot of movies, you just have to open your eyes.
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Re: This topic has been removed by LincolnOnyeabor: 10:26pm On Sep 26, 2025
Interesting...following keenly
Re: This topic has been removed by Nobody: 4:24pm On Sep 28, 2025
Ourtruth247:
Reincarnation is a natural process. All souls reincarnate. What I believe happened around 300 years ago is our imprisonment; the wiping out of our memories during reincarnation
Who imprisoned us and why?
Re: This topic has been removed by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 28, 2025
Ourtruth247:
It's not a race thing

The biggest mistake when looking at history is to make it about race. Race doesn't matter. We have all been different races. We have all had white and black containers in the past. We have all been male and female.

When you look at the drawings on the ceilings of cathedrals, you see all colors and shades of people. The pre-reset civilization across the world weren't white or black or brown or yellow. They were a congregation of different races living together and harmoniously

However those who rewrote our history (not human souls) occupied Caucasian (white skin) containers in order to push forward a racial ideology of control and segregation. They also bred among themselves and created bloodlines where the truth is passed down through generations

The souls that inhabit these special bloodlines don't lose their memories after they die. What this means is who ever was in control after the reset is literally still in control now and has over 300 years of memories intact
this takes me back to a movie "the strain" explains all you said here.
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Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng: 7:52pm On Sep 29, 2025
Nice smiley
Following

It really is too much work to hide the truth. Such dedication to something that's abnormal grin

Their commitment is topnotch shocked grin
If only the force of light can learn to battle violence with violence!

They're the willing slaves of the devil.

I've never seen an advert to come join the church of evil, but I've seen countless evangelism to come join the Christian church.

Keep it up. However fragmented it may come, we'll piece it up nicely soon smiley
Re: This topic has been removed by demanuel(m): 8:17pm On Sep 29, 2025
@Ourtruth247 well done Sir.
Are you done with this episode?
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 11:07pm On Sep 29, 2025
Reverseng:
Jesus is not the only way

One man sent to reach out to 7 vast continents in one life?

Even an igbo man cannot be governor in a Yoruba Land

Other messengers from God were sent.
By their fruits you shall know the tree.
Also note that man can corrupt, same way Jesus and other messengers teachings has been corrupted by man.
Example Jesus did not come to die for anyone sin. He was murdered, Same way charlie Kirk, Martin Luther king Jr, Mahatma Gandhi were murdered because their message was waking people up


Jesus is not the way, truth and life.

It's the application of Jesus message in one's life that is the path for one to everlasting Life
The beauty of life is also in it's complexity. Reaching the peak is when one can reach simplicity through complexity. That I believe is the essence of the Great Dao.

Lols
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 11:08pm On Sep 29, 2025
Reverseng:
Most of these seem incorrect

There is gender

Even morning has night
Upward has downward
In truth, there's no up or down.
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 11:12pm On Sep 29, 2025
demanuel:
I understand where you're coming from,but I have a few things:

-The concept of Heaven & Hell or what Christians understand as "Rapture" is a made up idea.
If it was real, it would be the last thing the whites will bring to Africa.
In fact, what Christians know as "Salvation" would only be known to the whites and those who put together the Bible.

-The Bible with 66 books is not complete.
There's a reason why some other books were left out.
Technically it's to control the people.
Also, majority of the characters especially in the old testament are blacks, just as we are, and Jesus is originally black skinned.
But those who documented the Bible and brought the gospel to Africa manipulated everything to establish their agenda.

-Jesus is a "Higher Consciousness" that if you genuinely follow, you'll elevate to higher realms and dimensions of consciousness (which is not "heaven" )after you pass away.

Again, "heaven and hell" as Christians know it to be, is a made up concept.
If it was real, Salvation will be the last thing the whites will bring to you.
It will be an exclusive preserve for themselves.

*I am a Christian who believe in Christ Jesus, but I don't subscribe to the concept of heaven and hell as documented.
Wherever you people get the idea of Jesus being a "higher consciousness" escapes me.

Like, gods... Wtfh.....
Re: This topic has been removed by Meedon: 10:21am On Sep 30, 2025
correctguy101:
Wherever you people get the idea of Jesus being a "higher consciousness" escapes me.

Like, gods... Wtfh.....
What is he or it thenhuh?
Re: This topic has been removed by demanuel(m): 3:55am On Oct 01, 2025
All these things you highlighted aren't alien to me. I know these things. You're right.
However, I have observed that majority of us, both Christians and Muslims are too passionate about our beliefs that we fail to understand how the universe really works.

A Christian will tell you that his way of life is the "only way".
Likewise a Muslim.

Meaning that someone (in Christian context) who was born and brought up in a remote village in any part of the world, who never had the opportunity to "repent and live a righteous life" will go to hell.

Correct?

In the grand scheme of things, the universe is just so vast to box humanity into following one path towards salvation.

I don't want to talk too much or even argue with you.
It's not necessary.

But my views and conclusions are based on personal experience, lots of reading and observations over time.

If you have the time, please read (not necessarily in detail but an overview)
-Texts about the Sumerian tablets, the Epic of Gilgamesh, & the Anunnaki.
-The other books not included in the bible.
-Top declassified and controversial programs of the CIA and NASA.
-Other topics of OP

Thank You.
PeterObi4Presid:
Since you are a Christian, it is good that our conversation can be predicated on the Bible. If so, then your rejecting the idea of Heaven and Hell as written in the Bible means you don't genuinely and completely believe in the word of Christ. Perhaps you don't have good understanding of the scripture, or you never had a spiritual encounter and prophetic revelations, or you are just plainly befuddled by unbelief.... So consider the foundation of your problems, search your heart if you truly believe the word of Christ, otherwise u need to seek help.
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Now you said Bible is not complete, this is a statement generally heard amongst the agnostics or the atheist, a Christian uttering such is joking with his faith and salvation, in fact that Christian may not even be saved in the first place. So go and examine your claim to salvation if it's truly genuine.

And if it's genuine, then you need to do a lot of research about the historicity of the Bible, and how it was preserved over centuries, and how it was canonized. Try to understand the difference between the canonized books, apocryphals and the modalities for the segmentation. A Christian may have doubts, but if you understand that Jesus, Peter, Paul, and the Apostles all read the old Testament diligently and quoted verbatim from it diligently, then your trust in the old testament, at least the ones they quoted from should stir up.
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Now you spoke about white bringing Christianity to us and all those racial sentiment that might make you get cynical about the Bible, that's okay, but there's some gap in your understanding of how the Bible and Christianity truly came to us:

1. The whites didn't bring or pioneer Christianity. The whites just happen into the history of how Christianity was spread, just as everyone has a stake in spreading it till Jesus will come.
.
2. Christianity was brought and first spread by Christ, then by the Apostles of Christ who were jews, not whites, then they took it to the Greeks, Romans, Asians, even to the Jews, etc after Christ died. if you read your Bible well. Remember even majority of the Jews dint accept Christianity even till now, and Christianity was a very minority group or sect whose pioneers had to die for the truth. I'm still talking of the Apostles and Christ here. So does this look like whites dying to spread Christianity?

After their mathyr by the whites, you see, it was even whites that first started killing the adherents of Christianity. It was Romans, who are white that killed Christ. So understand the history....
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Now when Christianity refused to die till the 4th century, note that at this point, the book of the believers was old Testament as kept by the legacy of the jews, and the epistles of the Apostles that was written and sent to the churches. So theres no interference by white as of now.

The so called real interference began during the period of Constantine in 4th century. And you should understand Constantine was not a Christian, he was pagan just as his society was pagan because history tells us the names of the gods, temples and deity the society subscribed to in Rome.

But in the midst of this paganistic and polytheistic milieu, Christianity continued to grow though during the reign of emperor Nero before Constantine, Christians were still being cracked down until Constantine try to use Christianity as a political chip to consolidate his reign, make history for himself, and made it a religion the state took interest in. Notice that government was monarchical this period. And Constantine was the sole controller, this period was the period Catholicism was Instituted and turned to an institution with tentacles with the state. It was independent before this period.
.
Understand that state interference into Christianity was political not spiritual. If you understand this point, you will also understand how political institutions can lash unto any mechanism to further their interest. See the way Westerners use Islam to create political problems in the world today.
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This interference lead to a whole lot of corruption in Catholicism and in the truth, but it never affected the old Testament books because they already existed. The books were only compiled this time, not edited. Epistles were also gathered together, not edited. And by then the church knew which book was recent, which book was controversial and which book held Apostolic authority through history. Note that compilation of these books was done for history, teaching not for the general access by the populace because the church hoards it.
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Catholicism became a political institution using religious authority to consolidate power, since their power also has political backing ... This led to what is called the dark ages.... Where the light of the Gospel was killed and Christianity/Catholicism was used by the state to engender any sentiment or political agenda. This is what led to the period known as dark ages because many biblical truth was hidden from people, and the state+Catholics hoard and used religion to exercise veto power... The spirituality of the scripture has been stripped and Gospel turned to the Phariseestic model of the period of Christ.
This continued Until the period of Reformation when the truth came back to light and genuine Christians arose to start fighting authority of the then political church and the Reformers starts translating the scripture from Latin/Greek to English, German for general access. Thank the Reformers like Calvin, Martin Luther, etc, this was the beginning of light that began to spread gospel in its true form and mandate and Europe began to war against monarchical rule which had used Catholicism to control people, to kill people for blasphemy, to champion inquisition and crusaders. This was the work of the Whites that that merged religion and the state (monarchy) to perpetuate their interest......
.
When Europe began to war against monarchical rule during the period of Renaissance/Reformation period, of course missionary work started by private individuals who have seen the light and caught the call of the Gospel. Of course Catholicism was already a giant, however Reformers who cut away from Catholicism began spreading the Gospel to Europe, America, Africa.. Catholics also join, and at this point was when Europe began slave trade.

It is very important to understand that Europe that began slave trade were merchants and political Europe. Not the reformers or missionaries, though some unscrupulous missionaries were complicit and aligned with the traders. So once again, the new proliferation of the religion was seen as a tool that could be used in their colonization agenda. Remember it's the reformers that fought racism and ended slave trade in America.

The coincidence of missionary work and slave trade into Africa can make you think the religion came because of need for slaves, but that's not the truth, the religion was only used by the slave merchants against the grain of the Gospel. (Coincidence) Just as Constantine used it to consolidate power, and the dark ages used it for control against the intent of Christ or the Apostles that founded it without the input of the whites
.
Up till today, the fusion of religion and state is always a tool not for salvation but for exploitation. So, any form where you see religion, pastors, fusing with the state it's always an attempt to use religion to further political and personal interest... That is what man is capable of, corrupting the intent of scripture. That's the problem of religion all over the world. The problem is man using it for exploitation, not the letter of the scripture being the problem....
This is why Christian spirituality is different from Christian religion
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Re: This topic has been removed by zabimaru: 11:10pm On Oct 02, 2025
A nice breakaway from the norm. Whew.

what I have come to realize is, people with more spiritual aura have more dedicated and powerful demons and angels contending for their conscious allegiance.

If you want information in a constructive and edifying manner, you have to go through the door and not the window. Knock and it shall be opened, seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be given.

The devil only seeks to kill, steal and destroy. Even if he gives you the so called knowledge that has been hidden intentionally (like what happened in the days of Enoch down to Noah) he'll ensure it is perverted enough to guarantee destruction.

A lot of things the OP has been ranting about is actually true.
However, the higher you go up the ladder of influence, the more you realize that those at the helm of powers do not take spirituality for granted the way. They'll promote and actively engage in commonizing the gospel of Christ because of the esoteric knowledge they have acquired.

The devil controls this world as we know it and is actively seeking people to help him destroy it at a price. That price can be power, fame, influence, wealth etc

I read about the CIAs involvement in metaphysical things and even commented on one of OPs threads before he did the expose on it. For those that want to know the truth, do some research yourself and by God's grace you will not be deceived because it can be misleading, especially if you have the wrong intent for seeking the information. CIA has dabbled well into this stuff that average people just push aside.

To the OP, there are reports that a certain top man went to the Epstein Island and his visits were categorically to experiment on altering genetics. You'd probably not find it in any mainstream media but if your sources and tools for research are even better than average, you'll be able to get this information.
It might sound like something far fetched but it has happened before, with the Nephilim, Rephaim and Anakim.

Concerning Jesus... Just lookup non Christian historic evidence of his existence, if you do with an open unprejudiced mind, you'll come to the very realization that Jesus Christ is as real as the air we breathe and he is the only legitimate way to the father. Not only that, he is the truth and the life (life giver).
There is even a CIA document about a revered author who posited that Jesus was carried by a UFO. This is also inline with what experts theorize about Elijahs ascension. I don't have information to prove or disprove it cos it's not of any consequence to me atm, but it goes to show us how invested these guys are in these things.

One thing is very certain though, the op has been exposed to information, a lot of information that is very true! Whether it's to edify or destroy him is another issue as he has also been fed half truths, especially when it comes to Jesus and consciousness.

I'm hopeful that in time, he'll come to that realization because it's not the first time that beings have fed this kind of information to humans. The first aliens that left their abode and came down to dwell amongst us brought this knowledge. The flood was meant to correct that error but reports are that one of Noah's sons found tablets of information somewhere and preserved them, even after being instructed to destroy them.

The civilization of old is way more advanced that what we have today. They had crafts and technologies that we can only hope for today. We think we are doing much? The tower of Babel was being built as a Ziggurat, a portal to another world or another dimension. Humans will not just arrive at this knowledge, technology or means to craft stuff like this up without external influence. Where are we today in terms of this kind of tech? One of our greatest achievements so far is the hadron collider and we are still nowhere with the understanding of dark matter or how it can be utilized.

There was a young man who used to be very interested in these esoteric stuff. Read books he wasnt supposed to and attempted stuff (third eye, astral projection etc) he wasn't supposed to. When it looked like they didn't work, he just classified it as zealous people writing stuff for physical gains. Until he started realizing patterns, he became sort of "aware" in a non physical way. It's not the right time for this discus but just know that there is a way that seems right unto man but the end thereof is destruction. Most of you don't even know you've had metaphysical encounters, you'll just notice you've lost time. You can't account for a very recent period of time. Science and medicine has a name for it and if care is not taken you'll go insane because you've opened up your body to demons and they'll use it while obstructing your own soul.

Think on these things, whatever is good and acceptable unto the edification of the soul and spirit, think on these....

May the peace of the Lord be with y'all and may God's grace use this post to enlighten and nudge us in the right direction.
Re: This topic has been removed by zabimaru: 11:31pm On Oct 02, 2025
One question I would like to ask your audience @op is,

Since we all believe in a higher power... what if as a result of the crude and exponential erosion of values as humans, that same power decides to reset our world today as we know it. What if he (or it as most of y'all would prefer) decides to flood the whole earth and ensure that areas with high concentration of corruptible knowledge and iniquities are completely submerged for months (to ensure all land dwellers die off), what kind of information would likely survive?

Paper information? Information stored on water proof Servers or Information crafted on stone?

If that powers decides to spare some people who have not been tainted with lusts, who have not modified their DNA with GMO foods and who still retain the purest form of human DNA,

which areas would be spared?

The western civilized world or the gross uncivilized people living in some bush still wearing leaves and speaking with sounds too ancient to decipher?

If some of the information survives, would the survivors be able to interpret it and use it? Especially if it is written in using languages (any language at all or even translated in the most common languages) and not human relatable drawings.

Like say, if the manual for creating a pot is to extract iron, melt it using fire, create a mould and then pour the melted iron.

What would the survivors understand? Written text or drawings demonstrating the process?
Re: This topic has been removed by demanuel(m): 11:37am On Oct 03, 2025
Many thanks for your comments,and I also have a question for you.

Based on your own personal study, experience and personal convictions and beliefs-
-Is Christianity (and/or Islam) the "only way" ?.
-Is (in Christian context) the concept of "Heaven & Hell" real?
-Do You agree that the earth is a "prison planet" for man and there are other dimensions in the cosmos and higher level of consciousness that the soul of Man can explore?


@OP please forgive me if we had derailed this thread with these conversations.

However, these conversations are part of what you have touched in your previous threads.
And some of us agree (to a large extent) and learn from your posts, and also look out for your future posts.

I for one follow you here.

Thank You.
zabimaru:
One question I would like to ask your audience @op is,

Since we all believe in a higher power... what if as a result of the crude and exponential erosion of values as humans, that same power decides to reset our world today as we know it. What if he (or it as most of y'all would prefer) decides to flood the whole earth and ensure that areas with high concentration of corruptible knowledge and iniquities are completely submerged for months (to ensure all land dwellers die off), what kind of information would likely survive?

Paper information? Information stored on water proof Servers or Information crafted on stone?

If that powers decides to spare some people who have not been tainted with lusts, who have not modified their DNA with GMO foods and who still retain the purest form of human DNA,

which areas would be spared?

The western civilized world or the gross uncivilized people living in some bush still wearing leaves and speaking with sounds too ancient to decipher?

If some of the information survives, would the survivors be able to interpret it and use it? Especially if it is written in using languages (any language at all or even translated in the most common languages) and not human relatable drawings.

Like say, if the manual for creating a pot is to extract iron, melt it using fire, create a mould and then pour the melted iron.

What would the survivors understand? Written text or drawings demonstrating the process?
Re: This topic has been removed by killsmith(f): 5:12pm On Oct 03, 2025
zabimaru:
A nice breakaway from the norm. Whew.

what I have come to realize is, people with more spiritual aura have more dedicated and powerful demons and angels contending for their conscious allegiance.

If you want information in a constructive and edifying manner, you have to go through the door and not the window. Knock and it shall be opened, seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be given.

The devil only seeks to kill, steal and destroy. Even if he gives you the so called knowledge that has been hidden intentionally (like what happened in the days of Enoch down to Noah) he'll ensure it is perverted enough to guarantee destruction.

A lot of things the OP has been ranting about is actually true.
However, the higher you go up the ladder of influence, the more you realize that those at the helm of powers do not take spirituality for granted the way. They'll promote and actively engage in commonizing the gospel of Christ because of the esoteric knowledge they have acquired.

The devil controls this world as we know it and is actively seeking people to help him destroy it at a price. That price can be power, fame, influence, wealth etc

I read about the CIAs involvement in metaphysical things and even commented on one of OPs threads before he did the expose on it. For those that want to know the truth, do some research yourself and by God's grace you will not be deceived because it can be misleading, especially if you have the wrong intent for seeking the information. CIA has dabbled well into this stuff that average people just push aside.

To the OP, there are reports that a certain top man went to the Epstein Island and his visits were categorically to experiment on altering genetics. You'd probably not find it in any mainstream media but if your sources and tools for research are even better than average, you'll be able to get this information.
It might sound like something far fetched but it has happened before, with the Nephilim, Rephaim and Anakim.

Concerning Jesus... Just lookup non Christian historic evidence of his existence, if you do with an open unprejudiced mind, you'll come to the very realization that Jesus Christ is as real as the air we breathe and he is the only legitimate way to the father. Not only that, he is the truth and the life (life giver).
There is even a CIA document about a revered author who posited that Jesus was carried by a UFO. This is also inline with what experts theorize about Elijahs ascension. I don't have information to prove or disprove it cos it's not of any consequence to me atm, but it goes to show us how invested these guys are in these things.

One thing is very certain though, the op has been exposed to information, a lot of information that is very true! Whether it's to edify or destroy him is another issue as he has also been fed half truths, especially when it comes to Jesus and consciousness.

I'm hopeful that in time, he'll come to that realization because it's not the first time that beings have fed this kind of information to humans. The first aliens that left their abode and came down to dwell amongst us brought this knowledge. The flood was meant to correct that error but reports are that one of Noah's sons found tablets of information somewhere and preserved them, even after being instructed to destroy them.

The civilization of old is way more advanced that what we have today. They had crafts and technologies that we can only hope for today. We think we are doing much? The tower of Babel was being built as a Ziggurat, a portal to another world or another dimension. Humans will not just arrive at this knowledge, technology or means to craft stuff like this up without external influence. Where are we today in terms of this kind of tech? One of our greatest achievements so far is the hadron collider and we are still nowhere with the understanding of dark matter or how it can be utilized.

There was a young man who used to be very interested in these esoteric stuff. Read books he wasnt supposed to and attempted stuff (third eye, astral projection etc) he wasn't supposed to. When it looked like they didn't work, he just classified it as zealous people writing stuff for physical gains. Until he started realizing patterns, he became sort of "aware" in a non physical way. It's not the right time for this discus but just know that there is a way that seems right unto man but the end thereof is destruction. Most of you don't even know you've had metaphysical encounters, you'll just notice you've lost time. You can't account for a very recent period of time. Science and medicine has a name for it and if care is not taken you'll go insane because you've opened up your body to demons and they'll use it while obstructing your own soul.

Think on these things, whatever is good and acceptable unto the edification of the soul and spirit, think on these....

May the peace of the Lord be with y'all and may God's grace use this post to enlighten and nudge us in the right direction.
Same mistake... Duality is a scam. The old testament God is the same as the Devil. Isaiah 45:7 is clear on this. How else could he have offered christ the world if he didn't design it?

Look at the how the old testament God was thirsty for blood sacrifice. Hated cain for offering fruits for sacrifice unlike his brother who offered blood. Slaughtered the children of Egypt. Ordered the Israelites to constantly commit genocide.

What are the promises of yahweh?

I will give you the land of the enemies.
I will make you the father of all nations etc
All earthly promises. But Christ promised you the afterlife. See the difference?

The old testament God never for once promised to take you to heaven where you can dwell with him. Unlike Christ who told you to focus not on things of the world but on the afterlife.

Ask yourself, how did the angry, narcissistic, jealous wicked old testament yahweh become the meek, humble christ?

How did yahweh who constantly ordered genocide become the same person who said love and pray for your enemies?


I still don't believe people can't see the bible God is the actual satan(saturn).
Re: This topic has been removed by killsmith(f): 5:13pm On Oct 03, 2025
Until you leave this satanic realm, you are your own God. Never worship any being who could actually be one of the many names/fabrications of saturn.
Re: This topic has been removed by fredwill1357(m): 6:04pm On Oct 03, 2025
killsmith:
Ask yourself, how did the angry, narcissistic, jealous wicked old testament yahweh become the meek, humble christ?

How did yahweh who constantly ordered genocide become the same person who said love and pray for your enemies?


I still don't believe people can't see the bible God is the actual satan(saturn).
are you vegan?
Re: This topic has been removed by zabimaru:
demanuel:
Many thanks for your comments,and I also have a question for you.

Based on your own personal study, experience and personal convictions and beliefs-
-Is Christianity (and/or Islam) the "only way" ?.
-Is (in Christian context) the concept of "Heaven & Hell" real?
-Do You agree that the earth is a "prison planet" for man and there are other dimensions in the cosmos and higher level of consciousness that the soul of Man can explore?


@OP please forgive me if we had derailed this thread with these conversations.

However, these conversations are part of what you have touched in your previous threads.
And some of us agree (to a large extent) and learn from your posts, and also look out for your future posts.

I for one follow you here.

Thank You.
The simple answers

-Is Christianity (and/or Islam) the "only way" ?.
Jesus Christ is the only way to regain complete rightness (or righteousness). All the other mediums suggest ways of atoning for sin, but a sinner will always be a sinner. It doesn't matter what you atone for, in the end, a sinner is a sinner. Even Abraham and all the other prophets (save Elijah and Enoch) had a special place in what we unanimously refer to as hell.
Only transforming ones nature by being born again, restores that original, excellent and Godly nature that man once had. Where man can access God (of man's own will), bask in his presence and commune with him.

-Is (in Christian context) the concept of "Heaven & Hell" real?

As real as every single construct we can interact with both in this life and in other spiritual dimensions.

Note that Heaven is not even the Goal for man. It's a temporary place to shield those who have accepted Jesus as Lord Saviour from the great 7 years tribulation. It'll be so bad that man would possibly renounce their allegiance if those regarded as faithful are not preserved. Some will still change and make it through, but it's going to be extremely difficult.

Hell was created for disobedient beings, for beings with free will that blatantly refuse to carry out their mandate. Man should ordinarily not be there but it is what it is! Sin is sin.

I will touch on the reason for hell in my next post, so I don't repeat myself unnecessarily. But it is very real.

-Do You agree that the earth is a "prison planet" for man and there are other dimensions in the cosmos and higher level of consciousness that the soul of Man can explore

I don't believe that Earth is a prison planet. However, it is important to note that the Earth has been polluted beyond redemption, hence the need for a new one after the great Judgement. Every created thing has sentience, including the earth. Through Adams sin, it received a curse that has been working against Adam from that very day.

Now, the offsprings of the unholy union were not sanctioned by God so they had nowhere to go after their physical bodies died in the great flood. They have since been condemned to roam this earth, under the supervision and management of the devil who was also cast to this physical plane. The worst part is, they retained all the thirst and hunger they experienced as physical entities. That's why they keep looking for bodies to possess and find respite. For these beings, earth is a prison planet. When their host dies, there is no "RIP" for them. They continue roaming, in perpetual, abject thirst and hunger. They are also extremely rabid and aggressive, that's why it's very easy for a spiritually aware person to spot a possessed body. The nature of the soul manifests in the physical body.There are tell tale signs.
Ps I'm a huge Fan of science, because it's man's own way of acquiring knowledge. Roots and herbs are known to drive away some demons but this is pharmakeia; the more acceptable term for divination of roots and/or sorcery. The acceptable way for the Christian is to cast demons away in the Name of Jesus Christ.

You'll find that both methods work to cure ailments (or wade off certain demons). With Pharmakeia however, it's easy to overdo it and cause other complications, but man has found acceptable doses through scientific research. Even then, some people will willingly overdo it.

Sorry I digressed. Yes, there are other worlds and dimensions, but they were not created for the Man who is on this earth.

People can access those worlds because it is possible to for the soul to project itself and explore but they were not made for men. Certain men in the bible explored certain planes (known to man as different areas of heaven) in form of visions. In actual reality, those men had their spirit and souls projected from this world. It's another discussion but the spirit is what can exist in other planes and interact with the entities there. The Soul keeps the memories so the body can access it. The devil has a physical body, likewise angels. However, Demons (or what we know as demons) don't. They are the ones trapped here. That is the perversion of the truth or half truths that the devil peddles. Man is not in a prison here. Anyone that dies here leaves this physical world.

Yes there are spiritually aware people (if this is what you mean by consciousness. And every single human being can be trained to expose their spirit to these worlds or use certain methods to transcend this physical plane. These are part of the things that the watchers brought to man that wasn't meant for man.
The devil will try to pass this as the norm, it isn't. Man was created as a being with the capacity to do these things, but it is not expedient for man to experience everything. The mandate was thrive here, on earth. Same way angels could decide to assume their physical bodies and mate with humans, it's a new consciousness level for them, to experience carnal pleasure, but it wasn't meant for them.
I think I might have repeated my point but, you get my gist.


I dont want to derail Ops thread more than this please.
I think I have subconsciously done that, and I sincerely apologize to the OP.

But thank you for reaching out. I'm always happy to share more and explore your views as well, maybe on a dedicated thread?
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