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SpencerForbes:
If you have to spin for your next generation to be rich that’s not being poor. Even footballers and crypto traders still work. If we want to follow your definition, that means roughly 60% of humans are poor or more cos everyone is working. Even your musicians are working.

List some “rich jobs” you know that doesn’t involve creativity and working??

There are some people that work because they enjoy what they do

There are some people that work because they have to survive

The vast majority falls under the latter

Kayouzka:
You still don't get it.

He is still at a state of constant deprivation if he has to work to earn an income, back in his mind he knows that if the income stops coming everything runs down.

The system has been crafted in such a way that if you don't have money you'd be poor and if you are poor you'd suffer. It like spinning a wheel to keep balance if you stop spinning you'd fall. True peace is when you don't have to spin and you don't have to fall.

Even Elon musk is working bro, Even Zuckerberg. Everyone must work, hardwork or smartwork. That depends on you. When you’ve build a solid foundation, then you can talk about passive income but you need to lay the foundation either through hardwork or smartwork.

Kayouzka:
There are some people that work because they enjoy what they do

There are some people that work because they have to survive

The vast majority falls under the latter

The latter aren’t rich🤔 that means a lot of people will suffer cos 80% of us are poor😂😂😂

Kayouzka:
There are some people that work because they enjoy what they do

There are some people that work because they have to survive

The vast majority falls under the latter

I’ll agree with you that some people enjoy what they do. But if you’re talking about that, that’s passion and doesn’t guarantee you’ll be rich. So it depends on our definition of being rich. So if we should go by your definition and understanding, you are right but if we should go by the understanding of the op. Then you’re very wrong cos passion can’t equate wealth.

Kayouzka:
Hmmmmmmmm!

This are 100 people in a pool of 1m
Let be realistic the vast majority of the poor remains poor till they die

The problem with you people is that you are too optimistic about life so you don't see the true picture

Look around you, everywhere, the farmers, labourers, the artisans etc how many of them really made it out of there perpetual struggles with money?

Now with this your post, what guarantees that the farmers and artisans aren’t rich according to your “definition”

What if they loved doing it and you’re also telling me a bank manager can be poor cos he wanted to be a politician 🤔

Kayouzka:
If you still earn salary you are still poor
There is a thin line between you and the person on the street

Most of you don't even know what true wealth is

Vast majority struggle with money till they die

Now read this your post, why did you make reference to money if you’re talking about passion🤔

Your definition is wack and the rich we’re talking about here is monetary and I still stand that you can escape poverty by hardwork and smartwork not just passion. Be having passion while your kids steal from others and you’re telling me you’ll be happy🤔

Success is defined as when determination, preparation and hardwork meets oppotunity. That’s the creation of wealth. Not just passion.
Shalom🚶‍♂️

Sirchiboy:
Onyeka Nwelue claims no one born into a poor family can ever escape poverty

This prof talks out of point.

Sirchiboy:
You don't know what you are saying.
How did they make their money?
You can only escape poverty in nigeria through connection or opportunity..
If you like work hard for 100 years.
Without connection or opprtunity nothing dey sup

its thesame everywhere in the world, not just Nigeria

Kaczynski:
money wont make you happy, accumulating lots of funds will make you miserable



there is no reason to be poor because education and internet has widened the economic inequality , theres is knowledge, information at your finger tips. Most people are not making use of this. They are too busy on tiktok , on ig envying other people, on facebook. you dont even need go to school to be educated. you pick a skill like carpentry, welding , acquire tools, learn with internet and build things that people will actually use.


then live frugally and invest if you thinking about having kids. have 1-2 kids, buy land and grow what you eat.


You dont need much in life, no need for petty luxury and fancy bs.

Thanks for your succinct words of advice 🤝

franchasng:
There are exceptions, namely:

1.) As a Nigerian born poor, you can escape family poverty through migrating abroad


2.) Through business and entrepreneurship, especially buying and selling. A lot of Nigerians escaped poverty through trading or buying and selling things

3.) You can escape family poverty through Yahoo too, a lot of Nigerians did escaped poverty through it


4.) You can escape family poverty through good paying jobs, I know a lot that good paying jobs with companies like; NNPC, Mobil, NLNG, Total, Saipem (Eni Group), Hyundai, CBN, etc saved from generational poverty, but you must get in immediately after NYSC through Graduate Trainee recruitment.

5.) Some Nigerians escaped family poverty through government work combined with office corruption like collecting bribes, kickbacks, etc

6.) Some escaped family poverty through lecturing job where they used selling of substandard handouts, collecting sorting money from students with low grade for result upgrade, etc to escape family poverty.

7.) Some escaped family poverty through active politics from grassroots, though it's not rampant but some did.


8.) Some escaped family poverty through marriage, this is very common among Nigerian ladies; many of them escaped family poverty through marriage.


9.) Some escaped family poverty through hookup and high class escort parole, especially ladies

10.) Some escaped family poverty through social media content creation, blogging, vlogging, working online, remote jobs

11.) Some escaped poverty through religious work like being preacher, clergy, etc.

You are a very knowledgeable man!

I have witnessed the bold and can attest to it. So it is possible to exit poverty through those routes, but as with any good thing, a great deal of determination, perseverance and a bit of luck are required. To ensure that they don't fall into it, they should have two children.

Add drug trafficking, too.

Uchenna10:
This prof talks out of point.

Ever since the Oxbridge universities dealt with him and his buddy in Ghana, he has not been okay. He would be worse than Tinubu, e sure me d!e

What I have observed about OP and his thought process is that he believes nothing is possible. OP believes his situation is final.

Every day, I think of why some people fail or fail to progress in life. Government's policies are one major factor. In an African setting, "village people" could also be a reason. But I strongly believe that one's mindset and IQ are the most crucial. Some people don't have the requisite IQ needed for them to leap out of their current situation. They don't think strategically, methodically and rationally. This leads them to make ill-fated decisions. A solution to this will be to become a dutiful worker or partner to someone with a higher IQ who will reward their work and honesty. For instance, why would someone pay a huge amount of money to travel to a faraway land where there are few Black people on a visit visa, yet expect a work visa?

Then mindset: this is equally important because people are their minds and thought processes. What they think and believe is what they act on. If you believe it is not possible, then it is impossible for you. However, because it is impossible for you does not mean it is impossible for others. If you think negatively, then you attract negativity. If you think positively, then you get positive results. Yes, you have to put in the hard work, but the original mindset and thought process are important. You cannot collect what you don't give out. The mind is powerful, just as one's IQ. Both work together.

Lastly, there is also being goal-driven, aka ambitious. This could be attributed to nature vs nurture. However, IQ and the right frame of mind are needed for an ambitious person to excel.

So what about footballers?

[quote author=Gerrard59 post=137125130]Ever since the Oxbridge universities dealt with him and his buddy in Ghana, he has not been okay. He would be worse than Tinubu, e sure me d!e[/quote

He talks about Oxford on twitter,I thought he was joking.

If someone can eat well, pay rent, care for their health, and meet daily needs , that person is not poor, even if they don’t buy luxury things.