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At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 9:51am On Nov 23, 2025

So there is the talk of heaven or hell after death but then the book of revelations talks about all rising from the dead to face judgement. Which is true?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:54am On Nov 23, 2025

Revelations shows that death vomits us up out int God's Court for judgement.

So, the death is exactly like DSS and police custody where all accused are first held and detained before being taken to court

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Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 10:19am On Nov 23, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelations shows that death vomits us up out int God's Court for judgement.

So, the death is exactly like DSS and police custody where all accused are first held and detained before being taken to court

But it is written that at death, the spirit goes back to God is God's présence the DSS and police custody?

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Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:25am On Nov 23, 2025*

tctrills:
But it is written that at death, the spirit goes back to God is God's présence the DSS and police custody?

Did you not see that there are 2 spirits?

One that is Emmanuel, Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 which is God and goes back to Him?

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 10:35am On Nov 23, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that there are 2 spirits?

One that is Emmanuel, Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 which is God and goes back to Him

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

You are not getting my question.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
So my question is, when you mentioned imprisonment, are you calling the return to God imprisonment?

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Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 2:52pm On Nov 23, 2025

tctrills:
You are not getting my question.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
So my question is, when you mentioned imprisonment, are you calling the return to God imprisonment?

This is the exact same question I asked BlueAgent, and he has not answered. Now he is saying I should go to another thread to find out.
Don't mind them, man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust of the earth. When the spirit enters the body it becomes a living soul.
So Body + spirit= living soul(man).
At death the soul is split, the body is buried for it to become one with the earth and the spirit returns to God who owns it. (FYI: the spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything). Most times when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger.
BUT,
My own additional information.
The spirit that God sends to the body (psalm 104:29-31) is the same image and likeness as God, just as the body is the same image and likeness as the earth. Therefore it is safe to say we are God's having a human experience. Or how I love to put it. Man is the form through which God experiences his creation in multiple ways.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 3:29pm On Nov 23, 2025

sonmvayina:
This is the exact same question I asked BlueAgent, and he has not answered. Now he is saying I should go to another thread to find out.
Don't mind them, man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust of the earth. When the spirit enters the body it becomes a living soul.
So Body + spirit= living soul(man).
At death the soul is split, the body is buried for it to become one with the earth and the spirit returns to God who owns it. (FYI: the spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything). Most times when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger.
BUT,
My own additional information.
The spirit that God sends to the body (psalm 104:29-31) is the same image and likeness as God, just as the body is the same image and likeness as the earth. Therefore it is safe to say we are God's having a human experience. Or how I love to put it. Man is the form through which God experiences his creation in multiple ways.

I don't see why I disagree with you

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Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by sonmvayina(m): 3:54pm On Nov 23, 2025

tctrills:
I don't see why I disagree with you

Say something.or ask questions for clarification.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:50pm On Nov 23, 2025

tctrills:
You are not getting my question.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
So my question is, when you mentioned imprisonment, are you calling the return to God imprisonment?

Does John Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 not show which Spirit is God and goes back to Him?

And does 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show you that the spirit of man is also in us also therefore we can count that there are 2 spirits in man?

And does Revelations 20 not tell you that man remains captured in death until death releases him into God's Court?

Or did the bible say that the spirit that goes back to God was also swallowed and trapped by death?

Or did the bible say that the spirit which returneth to God cometh back again from Him to be judged?

These things are clear, you are just fuelled by your wish and hope that you are joined with God, therefore God would not be able to judge you. So you do not want to see that when you die, God separates from you. Or to put it another way, dying means that God has separated from you which is what Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 is saying.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 10:34pm On Nov 23, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Does John Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 not show which Spirit is God and goes back to Him?

And does 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show you that the spirit of man is also in us also therefore we can count that there are 2 spirits in man?

And does Revelations 20 not tell you that man remains captured in death until death releases him into God's Court?

Or did the bible say that the spirit that goes back to God was also swallowed and trapped by death?

Or did the bible say that the spirit which returneth to God cometh back again from Him to be judged?

These things are clear, you are just fuelled by your wish and hope that you are joined with God, therefore God would not be able to judge you. So you do not want to see that when you die, God separates from you. Or to put it another way, dying means that God has separated from you which is what Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 is saying.

Wait oh, are you saying that man has 2 spirits, one goes back to God at death and the other goes to jail as you say. This is the first time I am hearing this please throw more light

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:55am On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
Wait oh, are you saying that man has 2 spirits, one goes back to God at death and the other goes to jail as you say. This is the first time I am hearing this please throw more light

It is even 3 spirits that is in man, but let me start with this 2 clear ones.

Take your time to consider the scriptures that I have pointed out.

Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows a Spirit given by God to man for man to live on earth which goes back to God and we "die".

Revelations 20 shows that man is taken by Mr death, hell and water when he dies and is imprisoned there.

And 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show us that the spirit of man is also in us also.

So, is the the same spirit that has gone back to God that is still in death, hell and water?

Definitely it is not the same spirit.

The spirit cannot be both in God and still be in death, hell and water, only to end up going back to face God, like an accused taken to court to face the Judge.

If the spirit is with God, then it cannot and will not be facing God.

So, man has these 2 spirits, even though it is actually 3 but go and check and see if you would not see these 2 spirits.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 9:45am On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
It is even 3 spirits that is in man, but let me start with this 2 clear ones.

Take your time to consider the scriptures that I have pointed out.

Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows a Spirit given by God to man for man to live on earth which goes back to God and we "die".

Revelations 20 shows that man is taken by Mr death, hell and water when he dies and is imprisoned there.

And 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show us that the spirit of man is also in us also.

So, is the the same spirit that has gone back to God that is still in death, hell and water?

Definitely it is not the same spirit.

The spirit cannot be both in God and still be in death, hell and water, only to end up going back to face God, like an accused taken to court to face the Judge.

If the spirit is with God, then it cannot and will not be facing God.

So, man has these 2 spirits, even though it is actually 3 but go and check and see if you would not see these 2 spirits.

So according to you, at death, one of your spirits goes to God, one goes to jail and where does the 3rd one go?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39am On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
So according to you, at death, one of your spirits goes to God, one goes to jail and where does the 3rd one go?

Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows Emmanuel leaves us and goes back to God that is why we die and when we die.

Have you figured out who the 3rd one is?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 11:28am On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows Emmanuel leaves us and goes back to God that is why we die and when we die.

Have you figured out who the 3rd one is?

I don't even understand anything you wrote. As for your third spirit, it is your doctrine so teach. I am listening.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:30am On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
I don't even understand anything you wrote. As for your third spirit, it is your doctrine so teach. I am listening.

You do not know Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 Who "Emmanuel" is? (Matthew 1:23/ Isaiah 7:14)

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 11:35am On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
You do not know Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 Who "Emmanuel" is? (Matthew 1:23/ Isaiah 7:14)

First, Genesis 6:3 did not mention Emmanuel. Also, are you saying that Jesus Christ is your spirit?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:51am On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
First, Genesis 6:3 did not mention Emmanuel. Also, are you saying that Jesus Christ is your spirit?

😳What kind of person are you? Is Genesis 6:3 not about God being with us?
And does Emmanuel not mean God with us? Even in primary school we were taught this! Ahan!

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 1:32pm On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
😳What kind of person are you? Is Genesis 6:3 not about God being with us?
And does Emmanuel not mean God with us? Even in primary school we were taught this! Ahan!

Two different things, you claim that Christ is one of your spirits. Genesis 6:3 says nothing about that. Zero link no matter how hard you force it. Now tell us your 3rd spirit please.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:14pm On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
Two different things, you claim that Christ is one of your spirits. Genesis 6:3 says nothing about that. Zero link no matter how hard you force it. Now tell us your 3rd spirit please.

So, do you say that Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 are not the same?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Truthseeker10: 2:24pm On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that there are 2 spirits?

One that is Emmanuel, Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 which is God and goes back to Him?

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

So every human being has Emmanuel which Is God in them?

So you're saying that there are three locations where the soul can go to after death?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Truthseeker10: 2:26pm On Nov 24, 2025

sonmvayina:
This is the exact same question I asked BlueAgent, and he has not answered. Now he is saying I should go to another thread to find out.
Don't mind them, man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust of the earth. When the spirit enters the body it becomes a living soul.
So Body + spirit= living soul(man).
At death the soul is split, the body is buried for it to become one with the earth and the spirit returns to God who owns it. (FYI: the spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything). Most times when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger.
BUT,
My own additional information.
The spirit that God sends to the body (psalm 104:29-31) is the same image and likeness as God, just as the body is the same image and likeness as the earth. Therefore it is safe to say we are God's having a human experience. Or how I love to put it. Man is the form through which God experiences his creation in multiple ways.

Explain Genesis 3:19....Did God say that Adam was God's spirit dwelling in a physical body or that Adam was dust?

Is the image of God the same as the breath of life in Genesis 2:4?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:28pm On Nov 24, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So every human being has Emmanuel which Is God in them?

Is that not what Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 says?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Truthseeker10: 2:34pm On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Is that not what Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 says?

So Emmanuel which is God is in all men including terrorists and kidnappers?

Below in bold is your statement.

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

So you're saying that there are three locations where the soul can go to after death?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 2:36pm On Nov 24, 2025

Judgement comes after resurrection.

Ponder on this verses.

Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 2:37pm On Nov 24, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Explain Genesis 3:19....Did God say that Adam was God's spirit dwelling in a physical body or that Adam was dust?

Adam was dust.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 2:37pm On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
So, do you say that Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 are not the same?

There is zero link between the two.
One says,
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

And the other
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Oga are you sure you read these before posting.
Please calm down take your time and read.
How does the first verse explain that Jesus Christ is one of the 3 spirits of man?

And again, what is the 3rd spirit you are talking about?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 2:39pm On Nov 24, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Explain Genesis 3:19....Did God say that Adam was God's spirit dwelling in a physical body or that Adam was dust?

Is the image of God the same as the breath of life in Genesis 2:4?

https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection

https://www.nairaland.com/5704487/what-goes-heaven-hell-it

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 2:40pm On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
I don't see why I disagree with you

https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection

https://www.nairaland.com/5704487/what-goes-heaven-hell-it

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:40pm On Nov 24, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So Emmanuel which is God is in all men including terrorists and kidnappers?

Does Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 says only some men?

And are men born kidnappers and territories?

So I have answered your question, answer mine.

Does Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 say every human being has Emmanuel which Is God in them? Yes or No!

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that there are three locations where the soul can go to after death?

Thank God the post you quoted does not say so.

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by tctrills(op): 2:46pm On Nov 24, 2025

blueAgent:
https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection

https://www.nairaland.com/5704487/what-goes-heaven-hell-it

I only read the first and I agree

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Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Truthseeker10: 2:48pm On Nov 24, 2025

Dtruthspeaker:
Does Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 says only some men?

And are men born kidnappers and territories?

So I have answered your question, answer mine.

So when they are not born terrorists and kidnappers, how come they become terrorists and kidnappers when Emmanuel which is God is in them?

Thank God the post you quoted does not say so.

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

You clearly mentioned place of "damnation", "heaven" and "earth".....are these not three locations?

Re: At Death, Are We Judged Immediately Or Will Judgement Come After Resurrection? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:49pm On Nov 24, 2025

tctrills:
There is zero link between the two.
One says,
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

And the other
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Oga are you sure you read these before posting.
Please calm down take your time and read.
How does the first verse explain that Jesus Christ is one of the 3 spirits of man?

And again, what is the 3rd spirit you are talking about?

Let's sort out the entanglement since you want to pretend as if you do not see that they are the same.

So, first do you say that Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 are not the same?

Please answer, specifically whether yes, they are the same or no, they are not the same.

Then, I would know what to do

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