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jaephoenix:
It cannot.
Now answer this. Can you prove that there is no spider on top of your head?

can you prove that there is a spider?

jaephoenix:
Science cannot disprove the supernatural. The question is HOW DO WE KNOW THE SUPERNATURAL EXISTS?

Don't you think that is why people believe that the supernatural exists because Even science cannot disprove it?

jaephoenix:
Wait oh. You're saying that all doctors admit the supernatural? So what am I? Do I admit the supernatural? You well so?
So what if I tell you many doctors that DONT PRAY have higher chances of successful surgeries? What do you say? I'm sure you'll ignore this question and run like you have been doing.
Oga which doctors have lower surgical outcomes? Name the hospitals. At least I have my data. I don't pray and I have better outcomes in my procedures. So your god works with or without surgery. Now answer this question.... WHAT IF ONE DOESN'T BELIEVE OR PRAY,DOES HE GET WELL AFTER TREATMENT? Please don't dodge.
Christian doctors pray out of habit. I have seen several Christian doctors pray and end up with mortalities. I have seen an obs and gyne pray during resuscitate of a woman with post partum hemorrhage and she didn't make it. I have seen the same obs and gyne try to resuscitate a woman that had pulmonary embolism after surgery and she still died. In all instances, he prayed and he's a Winner pastor. He is now in Bayelsa. He did his residency in UPTH. I have seen 2 doctors who are pediatricians pray and lose babies. What are you talking about? You're just an outsider that know nothing in medical practice.
So spiritual controls physical? Eeeh. So which spiritual powers are controlling Nigeria?
So you walk in the spiritual realm? Awesome. LordReed cuman see something oh
We have spirit walker amongst us
So tell me,Mr Spirit Walker, what did the spirits tell you today? Are you getting the spirit from a bottle?

I have sent you a mail request. Respond so I can send my telegram handle

I know you'll lie over many things. All you said above cannot be believed. God is the one who works when we pray. Prayer does not force God to work. But it can make Him work. If God decides for a person to die, no prayer can stop it. But if it's the devil that is taking the person's life, then prayers can stop the devil.

I never said all doctors believe in the supernatural. You can choose not to believe it, your ignorance of the truth does not make the truth less a reality. The spiritual controls the physical.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Thanks for your time.

Please send your telegram contact to m

Truthseeker10:
can you prove that there is a spider?

I can't. Its spiritual. And it's controlling all you do in this life

Truthseeker10:
Don't you think that is why people believe that the supernatural exists because Even science cannot disprove it?

When you answer my question about the spider and dragon,then I'll explain why it's foolish to believe the supernatural. Shall we?

jaephoenix:
I can't. Its spiritual. And it's controlling all you do in this life

you mean a spider is spiritual?

jaephoenix:
When you answer my question about the spider and dragon,then I'll explain why it's foolish to believe the supernatural. Shall we?

You mean a spider is spiritual and supernatural?

FxMasterz:
I know you'll lie over many things. All you said above cannot be believed. God is the one who works when we pray. Prayer does not force God to work. But it can make Him work. If God decides for a person to die, no prayer can stop it. But if it's the devil that is taking the person's life, then prayers can stop the devil.

I never said all doctors believe in the supernatural. You can choose not to believe it, your ignorance of the truth does not make the truth less a reality. The spiritual controls the physical.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Thanks for your time.

Please send your telegram contact to maindev20@gmail.com.

You keep on lying and when you are caught, you change tact. You boldly said all doctors believe in the supernatural. Your lying is getting outta hand. I remember you now in my previous threads. You lie without compuction.
So you don't want to believe anything I post here even when I quote scientific articles? And you don't want to research the articles to conclude. You just want to believe whatever your mind tells you. And then add a sprinkling of lies when you're caught. Tomorrow you'll tell me you're christian
I have sent my telegram

Truthseeker10:
you mean a spider is spiritual?

Yes the spider I said that's in your head is spiritual. And it's controlling your actions. Do you believe me? Yes or no?

jaephoenix:
You keep on lying and when you are caught, you change tact. You boldly said all doctors believe in the supernatural. Your lying is getting outta hand. I remember you now in my previous threads. You lie without compuction.
So you don't want to believe anything I post here even when I quote scientific articles? And you don't want to research the articles to conclude. You just want to believe whatever your mind tells you. And then add a sprinkling of lies when you're caught. Tomorrow you'll tell me you're christian
I have sent my telegram

I don't need to read everything you said. Please screenshot where I said All doctors believe in the supernatural. You claimed I said that, and I corrected you. If you insist, please screenshot it and let me see.

I have gone back to read all you said. You you tag me a liar like yourself? I will prove you as the liar today. Just screenshot where I said all doxtors believe in the supernatural.

jaephoenix:
Yes the spider I said that's in your head is spiritual. And it's controlling your actions. Do you believe me? Yes or no?

If you are referring to a spiritual spider, I don't believe you. Do you have any issues with my disbelief?

FxMasterz:
I don't need to read everything you said. Please screenshot where I said All doctors believe in the supernatural. You claimed I said that, and I corrected you. If you insist, please screenshot it and let me see.

I have gone back to read all you said. You you tag me a liar like yourself? I will prove you as the liar today. Just screenshot where I said all doxtors believe in the supernatural.

Mr Lie lie,look at the highlighted text

Truthseeker10:
If you are referring to a spiritual spider, I don't believe you. Do you have any issues with my disbelief?

Why dont you believe my spiritual spider?

jaephoenix:
Mr Lie lie,look at the highlighted text

So, by your own understanding of English All doctors admit the supernatural when the unexplainable happens is the same as "all doctors admit the supernatural"? You've seen your lies but you still want to run it on my face?

I've gotten your telegram. Will reach you by tomorrow.

Kindly remove my email from your mention. Thank you.

jaephoenix:
Why dont you believe my spiritual spider?

because I choose not to believe? Why should I believe?

FxMasterz:
So, by your own understanding of English All doctors admit the supernatural when the unexplainable happens is the same as "all doctors admit the supernatural"? You've seen your lies but you still want to run it on my face?

I've gotten your telegram. Will reach you by tomorrow.

Anyhow you twist it, it's the same thing
And correction,not all doctors believe the supernatural when unexplainable stuff happens. As a doctor,that is malpractice. It's only in backward countries like Nigeria that a doctor can tell a patient that their god has healed them and get away with that. Tell that to a patient in the UK. GMC would have your license in an instant. US state boards would descend on you

jaephoenix:
Anyhow you twist it, it's the same thing
And correction,not all doctors believe the supernatural when unexplainable stuff happens. As a doctor,that is malpractice. It's only in backward countries like Nigeria that a doctor can tell a patient that their god has healed them and get away with that. Tell that to a patient in the UK. GMC would have your license in an instant. US state boards would descend on you

So, I am the one twisting it because I told you exactly what I said and asked you if it meant the same thing as what you accused me of?

It is not the job of a doctor to tell a patient a miracle happened. But when the unexplainable happens and the patient asks for explanations from the doctor to no avail, the patient would insinuate it, and the doctor could answer "probably". He will go about asking his senior colleges for answers and when no one can offer him an explanation, he admits it within himself that a miracle just occured.

No one said he'll say it to a parent. I have seen doctors awed at the turn out of events. They cannot explain what happened. They know a miracle occurred.

Truthseeker10:
because I choose not to believe? Why should I believe?

Good. Now you get my drift about the spiritual.
The fact that folks mention some stuff that cannot be interfaced with doesn't mean I should believe. And you are right in your own not to believe cos it doesn't make sense.
The spiritual can be anything and can be twisted to mean anything, and since we cannot ascertain the properties of those stuff,it can be used to manipulate us. For example, I can yell you this spider holds your destiny and you should gimme money so I can bribe it to brighten your destiny
Thus that is why science and myself don't believe in the spiritual realm.
Any questions sire?

jaephoenix:
Good. Now you get my drift about the spiritual.
The fact that folks mention some stuff that cannot be interfaced with doesn't mean I should believe. And you are right in your own not to believe cos it doesn't make sense.
The spiritual can be anything and can be twisted to mean anything, and since we cannot ascertain the properties of those stuff,it can be used to manipulate us. For example, I can yell you this spider holds your destiny and you should gimme money so I can bribe it to brighten your destiny
Thus that is why science and myself don't believe in the spiritual realm.
Any questions sire?

Lol...so anything that i don't believe and I cannot interface does not make sense in general to any other person?

Can you disprove that a spiritual spider can actually control a person's actions?

FxMasterz:
So, I am the one twisting it because I told you exactly what I said and asked you if it meant the same thing as what you accused me of?

It is not the job of a doctor to tell a patient a miracle happened. But when the unexplainable happens and the patient asks for explanations from the doctor to no avail, the patient would insinuate it, and the doctor could answer "probably". He will go about asking his senior colleges for answers and when no one can offer him an explanation, he admits it within himself that a miracle just occured.

No one said he'll say it to a parent. I have seen doctors awed at the turn out of events. They cannot explain what happened. They know a miracle occurred.

Read what you said. Or are you also grammatically challenged? You said all doctors believe in the supernatural when an unexplainable event occurs. Now u r denying it.
So if it's not the place of a doctor to say a miracle occurred, why do doctors pray? Isn't it for a miracle to happen? You see how you're twisting yourself into pretzels? A doctor not knowing how a particular event happens doesn't mean that event is supernatural. It could mean the specialists know about it. That's how the referral system in healthcare works. You send to consultants who know more. And if the consultants dont know,they research

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so anything that i don't believe and I cannot interface does not make sense in general to any other person?

Can you disprove that a spiritual spider can actually control a person's actions?

But you just you don't believe the spiritual spider exists. How can I disprove something I tell you? I am the one telling you a spiritual spider exists and controls you but you disbelieve me. Of course I can't explain it to you cos there's no evidence

jaephoenix:
But you just you don't believe the spiritual spider exists.

Lol....so because I don't believe proves that spiritual spiders do not exist?

How can I disprove something I tell you? I am the one telling you a spiritual spider exists and controls you but you disbelieve me. Of course I can't explain it to you cos there's no evidence

Me disbelieving you does not prove that spiritual spiders do not exist. I never claimed that spiritual spiders do not exist or cannot control a person's actions or that they don't make sense in General to other people. I simply said that I do not believe you.

Now can you prove that spiritual spiders do not exist and cannot control a person's actions since you claimed that you are right for saying that anything that you don't believe and you cannot interface doesn't make sense?

jaephoenix:
Read what you said. Or are you also grammatically challenged? You said all doctors believe in the supernatural when an unexplainable event occurs. Now u r denying it.
So if it's not the place of a doctor to say a miracle occurred, why do doctors pray? Isn't it for a miracle to happen? You see how you're twisting yourself into pretzels? A doctor not knowing how a particular event happens doesn't mean that event is supernatural. It could mean the specialists know about it. That's how the referral system in healthcare works. You send to consultants who know more. And if the consultants dont know,they research

Jae, your lies are reaching unprecedented new heights. I can't believe you even lie this much. I said "all doctors admit..." But you're saying I said "all doctors believe. " Why can't you just hold on to truth and stay by it?

I don't have any further arguments to make with you. Just keep lying and deceiving yourself thinking you're deceiving others.

Or, were you not the very person who highlighted my words below? Even if you don't have the fear of God, where is your civility and courtesy?

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so because I don't believe proves that spiritual spiders do not exist?


Me disbelieving you does not prove that spiritual spiders do not exist. I never claimed that spiritual spiders do not exist or cannot control a person's actions or that they don't make sense in General to other people. I simply said that I do not believe you.

Now can you prove that spiritual spiders do not exist and cannot control a person's actions since you claimed that you are right for saying that anything that you don't believe and you cannot interface doesn't make sense?

No,I cannot prove they exist or control destinies. Neither can I disprove they don't exist or control destinies. Since I cannot do neither, I chose not to believe til sufficient evidence exists. And I see that you did the same,which is logical
This is also how law courts and other logical systems work. If there is no evidence to prove any action eg murder,then the court strikes out the lawsuit
Savvy?!

FxMasterz:
Jae, your lies are reaching unprecedented new heights. I can't believe you even lie this much. I said "all doctors admit..." But you're saying I said "all doctors believe. " Why can't you just hold on to truth and stay by it?

I don't have any further arguments to make with you. Just keep lying and deceiving yourself thinking you're deceiving others.

Or, were you not the very person who highlighted my words below? Even if you don't have the fear of God, where is your civility and courtesy?

So tell me,what's the difference between admit and believe, in this context? Mr. Lienus?
I also asked you a question which I said you'll dodge and indeed you dodged it lol 😆
Lemme repeat that question. If a christian doctor prays and a botches a procedure leading to a mortality, who should be blamed? The doctor, Yhwh or the patient

jaephoenix:
So tell me,what's the difference between admit and believe, in this context? Mr. Lienus?
I also asked you a question which I said you'll dodge and indeed you dodged it lol 😆
Lemme repeat that question. If a christian doctor prays and a botches a procedure leading to a mortality, who should be blamed? The doctor, Yhwh or the patient

It's alright. You would have made a more honorable person if only you can admit your mistakes. You need to first show me a dictionary where admit is same as believe.

I think I already had enough of you. I always like it when individuals can be truthful and honest in their dealings. I always know you be one who lies. But today, I can see that you lie without remorse.

And for your question which you lied that I dodged, I already answered you that prayed don't force God to do anything against His will. All Christians acknowledge that. If God wants someone's to die and you pray, the person will still die anyway, but, if the person's issue is from the devil, prayers can stop the person from dying.

Your own compass ion and your faith will help your prayers gain value before God. If it's missing, you have a great void to fill for your answers to come.

Let me add that prayers are answered dependent on God's will, a person's relationship with God and/or God's mercy. And all are connected through Love and Faith. Prayer is not a game of blaming anybody.

Thanks for your time actually. I'll get in touch with you on telegramn latest by tomorrow.

jaephoenix:
No,I cannot prove they exist or control destinies. Neither can I disprove they don't exist or control destinies. Since I cannot do neither, I chose not to believe til sufficient evidence exists. And I see that you did the same,which is logical
This is also how law courts and other logical systems work. If there is no evidence to prove any action eg murder,then the court strikes out the lawsuit
Savvy?!

Lol.......so why did you claim that I was right that the idea of a spiritual spider controlling my actions does not make sense since you cannot disprove it?

Now kindly prove how you are right to say that the above idea of a spiritual spider does not make sense?

FxMasterz:
It's alright. You would have made a more honorable person if only you can admit your mistakes. You need to first show me a dictionary where admit is same as believe.

I think I already had enough of you. I always like it when individuals can be truthful and honest in their dealings. I always know you be one who lies. But today, I can see that you lie without remorse.

And for your question which you lied that I dodged, I already answered you that prayed don't force God to do anything against His will. All Christians acknowledge that. If God wants someone's to die and you pray, the person will still die anyway, but, if the person's issue is from the devil, prayers can stop the person from dying.

Your own compass ion and your faith will help your prayers gain value before God. If it's missing, you have a great void to fill for your answers to come.

Let me add that prayers are answered dependent on God's will, a person's relationship with God and/or God's mercy. And all are connected through Love and Faith. Prayer is not a game of blaming anybody.

Thanks for your time actually. I'll get in touch with you on telegramn latest by tomorrow.

One has to believe before admitting,oga. No how can someone admit what he or she doesn't believe. All these dodgery no go help you.
So you admit your god wants some folks to die? Thank God(pun intended ) u have admitted this one. Make I take snapshot cos u go deny next time.
So u also agree your god does his things irrespective of prayers. Cool. So why do we pray then if your god has already made up his mind about us? I mean we can just say 'abeg god do wetin dey ur mind' no need for all these fasting and prayers.
And then the same bible says pray without ceasing? Dey confuse yourself
I thought u said god does his thing irrespective of our prayers and then the next sentence u say our prayers gain weight from our compassion and faith? Who are you trying to confuse?

Truthseeker10:
Lol.......so why did you claim that I was right that the idea of a spiritual spider controlling my actions does not make sense since you cannot disprove it?

Now kindly prove how you are right to say that the above idea of a spiritual spider does not make sense?

You have every right not to believe it cos you can't interface with it,bro. It's that simple.
I am right because none of us can interface with it and so it's within our rights to logically disbelieve

jaephoenix:
You have every right not to believe it cos you can't interface with it,bro. It's that simple.
I am right because none of us can interface with it and so it's within our rights to logically disbelieve

🤣🤣🤣Oga there you are making another claim that you've not proven.....are you saying that no one can interface with a spiritual spider and that a spiritual spider doesn't make sense to anyone?

jaephoenix:
One has to believe before admitting,oga. No how can someone admit what he or she doesn't believe. All these dodgery no go help you.
So you admit your god wants some folks to die? Thank God(pun intended ) u have admitted this one. Make I take snapshot cos u go deny next time.
So u also agree your god does his things irrespective of prayers. Cool. So why do we pray then if your god has already made up his mind about us? I mean we can just say 'abeg god do wetin dey ur mind' no need for all these fasting and prayers.
And then the same bible says pray without ceasing? Dey confuse yourself
I thought u said god does his thing irrespective of our prayers and then the next sentence u say our prayers gain weight from our compassion and faith? Who are you trying to confuse?

God's will cannot be changed. Whatever is then changeable depends on your faith, love and compassion to make God take actions on your behalf.

If admitting equals believing, leave that for the subject. I said, admit and not believe. Those are two different things.

I have seen someone , a Muslim who admitted that indeed Jesus cured his wife of insanity but yet never believed in Jesus. He only said his wife and children are free to follow us to church if they want.

FxMasterz:
Muslim who admitted that indeed Jesus cured his wife of insanity but yet never believed in Jesus. He only said his wife and children are free to follow us to church if they want.

Are you saying anyone who doesn't follow others to the church doesn't believe in Jesus?
Because if someone agreed that Jesus cured his wife it means such a person believes in Jesus just as demons believe in God but will never do any works that goes along with their beliefs!😟