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Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:03pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
In business, you cannot force a buyer to buy or force a seller to sell. Dangote's refinery is a private business.
Its only in a drug cartel with monopoly, that you can dictate 100% who is the seller and who is the buyer.
Dangote trying to force Nigeria to buy petrol from him or sell crude to him is slowly taking the shape of a cartel.
If his prices are low and remain low, he does need to beg for buyers....But if he plans to sell at high prices then he needs a buyer that will keep buying regardless.
That is what he is doing now. He is trying to force Nigerians to be his 100% customers by eliminating all other sellers, after he is successful doing that he will now raise the prices.
Same thing was done when he started selling cement. The government has to make sure he has competition,
Has he stopped them from building a Refinery? That's how we killed the Textile industry.
You obviously want us to go back to those era when we are dependent on importation for energy security. The stability we have today in our fx market is as a result of Dangote's effort.
I can't see monopoly here
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Willie2015: 2:05pm On Dec 17, 2025
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malali:
No third party speaking we are just tired as Nigerians, giving all our wealth to one person (Dangote) , now he is trying to monopolize the energy sector.
Dangote is not the only one in cement Lafarge and Bua... are competitors. Same will go for refinery...BUA is coming up soon ..others will follow.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:06pm On Dec 17, 2025
STEWpid:
C h a i..The writer is biased!!
A suspected paid agent by Farouk Ahmed!!

You said Dangote is angry that Farouk opposed the 15% import tax duty on importation of refined products just because he wants to monopolize the petroleum industry?

Our refineries have refused to work because of corrupt people like Farouk who wants soft landings for fuel importers than making local refineries work so that we will even forget about importation of fuel.

Na we get this crude oil for God's sake!!!

So Farouk wants a lower tax on importation of refined petroleum products so that Nigeria, a country that is richly blessed in the same petroleum resources, will be solely dependent on imported petroleum?

Farouk is against that high import tax because he is also part and parcel of those importing the fuel to the country at the expense of the masses as against the drive for functionality of our refineries that has been a monumental disgrace, gulping billions of dollars quarterly in the name of turnaround maintenance that hasn't yielded anything other than embezzlement/corruption.

Chai.. NaijArea..
When you fight corruption, the same corruption will fight you back,,

Farouk is not the problem. How many years has farouk been in that position ? How many years have our refineries not been working. Farouk was still in school when our refineries stopped working.
Dangote wants to monopolize the whole energy sector of Nigeria, or at least have everybody answerable to him. This from a security standpoint is not a wise idea. There should be open channels for petrol imports. These channels cant be kept corruption free. But there should still be open channels. There is no country in the world that buys its petrol from one private business man !! The minute you hand over the power in the energy sector to Dangote, he will raise the prizes of petrol and look the other way. If Dangote is producing Petrol at a good price, why is he
worried about levying the importers. Its a free market.....all goat sellers should bring their goat to the market and the buyers will decide who is selling at a better price. But dont tell us to levy some goat sellers,so your own goats can appear cheaper. Thats doesnt make sense.
He is just using Farouk as an excuse.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Druss(m): 2:06pm On Dec 17, 2025
66uvie:
"Mr Ahmed publicly explained that funds used for his children’s education came from long-term savings, including a scholarship scheme and personal investments, not public resource"

Nonsense talk, a Man that have been a civil servant most of his adult life in a third world country was able to save millions of dollars from his employment, how is that possible ?
I am waiting to see what details come out. It is possible dude may have been an investor from the beginning of his career. You never know.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by miracle002(m): 2:07pm On Dec 17, 2025
Op this your post has vindicated me. I created a post early this morning about this friction between Dangote and Farouk and I was labeled with all sorts of names.

Let me say it again Dangote is not fighting for the masses, he is only fighting for his selfish ambition.

He wants to have absolute monopoly in the petroleum industry. He does not want competition at all

But he will fail. The petition he has done against Farouk will be thrashed and importation of petrol will not stop. There is nothing he can do about it
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Darkjudge24: 2:07pm On Dec 17, 2025
While i concur with the write-up, i believe in the saying that he who wants to come to equity must come with clean hands, i believe that mr farouk lawan has the backing of this oil importers because from the onset of dangote refinery's operation this man has been a clog, it got to an extent this same man accused dangote of refining sub standard fuel, after that statement i know that he's been bankroll by the oil cabals, he is ready to do dirty for the oil cabals at the detriment of dangote refinery's and @dangote will not sit idly and watch a civil servant staining his babariga
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:09pm On Dec 17, 2025
Willie2015:
i Dangote is not the only one in cement Lafarge and Bua... are competitors. Same will go for refinery...BUA is coming up soon ..others will follow.

Thats the only ones you know.....lol
Go and research how many cement companies killed e,g Ibeto cement,benue cement to mention a few
You must be Gen Z.
Then go and research how much percentage of the market Dangote holds
Then go and research the meaning of monopoly
when you come back we can discuss.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by bestman09(m): 2:10pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lifestone:
Let them come together and build a refinery. Bua build cement company, nobody is complaining, Lefarage is inthe Cement sector, but they are all having cement plants in Nigeria.
To be using importation to compete with a local producer is evil.
Farouk issues import license
Bua is already building his own refinery. This is good for the country. Monopoly is bad.

And for your information, the said Farouk doesn't have the power to issue an import licence unilaterally. There may be some corruption underneath anyway but it didn't start today and I pray it'll end with this fight. However, like I said before, Dangote should fight for his business. When he was importing Rice, he made sure that local rice farmers and fellow importers closed their businesses
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:12pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lifestone:
Has he stopped them from building a Refinery? That's how we killed the Textile industry.
You obviously want us to go back to those era when we are dependent on importation for energy security. The stability we have today in our fx market is as a result of Dangote's effort.
I can't see monopoly here
Tell me why he is worried about their petrol imports.
Why does he need levy to stay competitive.
Why doesn't he just sell his petrol cheaper than their imports ?
He is producing locally, he doesn't pay transport to ship it back from Europe, so his own should be cheaper.
So why not just use pricing to eliminate the competitors ?
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:16pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
Tell me why he is worried about their petrol imports.
Why does he need levy to stay competitive.
Why doesn't he just sell his petrol cheaper than their imports ?
He is producing locally, he doesn't pay transport to ship it back from Europe, so his own should be cheaper.
So why not just use pricing to eliminate the competitors ?
Because we are all Nigerian and we know that the so call importers comes from Togo, and some blended. These are individuals who import only documents as fuel in the time past.
My question to you why these individuals can't build a refinery for themselves and compete?
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:16pm On Dec 17, 2025
ViceGovernor:
Lol 😂😆 wait till Aliko drops further revelations about the man's corruption, na him go sack himself last last.

Dangote will end importation of fuel 💯 percent next year by God's grace, all he has to do is to crash the price and all these saboteurs like Faruk and Co. Will find their square root.

Enough of importing fuel and selling to us in dollar rate.

He can end importation not by monopolizing the the sector but by dropping the price he sells.
Dangote wants to operate like a drug cartel. You can only buy petrol from me and you can only sell crude to me.
Its a free market, lower your prices and Nigeria will buy from you
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:18pm On Dec 17, 2025
bestman09:
Bua is already building his own refinery. This is good for the country. Monopoly is bad.

And for your information, the said Farouk doesn't have the power to issue an import licence unilaterally. There may be some corruption underneath anyway but it didn't start today and I pray it'll end with this fight. However, like I said before, Dangote should fight for his business. When he was importing Rice, he made sure that local rice farmers and fellow importers closed their businesses
Is he still the one blocking them today? No. Let others build Refinery and compete. That means more jobs and bigger economy
We should stay away from the rent seeking approach to our national life
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:20pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lifestone:
Because we are all Nigerian and we know that the so call importers comes from Togo, and some blended. These are individuals who import only documents as fuel in the time past.
My question to you why these individuals can't build a refinery for themselves and compete?
There has been refineries built, there are privately owned modular refineries in Nigeria asides Dangote's.
They are not complaining.
The risk of buying from only Dangote outweighs the problems we might have from corrupt import process
They can fix the import process and make it more transparent.
But Nigeria should never hand over all its petrol supply to Dangote.
Thats the worst decision any government can make.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:20pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:

He can end importation not by monopolizing the the sector but by dropping the price he sells.
Dangote wants to operate like a drug cartel. You can only buy petrol from me and you can only sell crude to me.
Its a free market, lower your prices and Nigeria will buy from you
Let these importers come together and build a refinery, simple. It's create more jobs and a bigger economy
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:22pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lifestone:
Go and build Refinery and compete. This your argument is stale

Its not by just building refinery
Run it for 3 years problem free.
Show us its a thriving business with or without government patronage.
Anybody can build a refinery and then seek to monopolize the petrol sector
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:22pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
There has been refineries built, there are privately owned modular refineries in Nigeria asides Dangote's.
They are not complaining.
The risk of buying from only Dangote outweighs the problems we might have from corrupt import process
They can fix the import process and make it more transparent.
But Nigeria should never hand over all its petrol supply to Dangote.
Thats the worst decision any government can make.
You missing the big picture. How does importation solve our energy problems? I thought what those wailers should be doing is developing and seeking support to build a Refinery or buy out NNPC Refinery and compete. These your argument does not hold water
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lifestone(m): 2:23pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:

Its not by just building refinery
Run it for 3 years problem free.
Show us its a thriving business with or without government patronage.
Anybody can build a refinery and then seek to monopolize the petrol sector
Dangote has finally cracked the code. These guys should not drag us back to Egypt
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:26pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lifestone:
You missing the big picture. How does importation solve our energy problems? I thought what those wailers should be doing is developing and seeking support to build a Refinery or buy out NNPC Refinery and compete. These your argument does not hold water
Building a refinery that only runs on government patronage is not a business
You are seeking to establish a cartel.
Know the difference between the 2.
If Dangote really built a functional and profitable refinery
He wont be so bothered about the government
He will buy his crude oil and sell his petrol with out without Nigerians
But he hunger and insistence on having the Nigerian government buy from him alone, will leave room for monopolistic practices, price fixing etc.
You might not see it now but that's surely his plan down the road.
When has he ever cared about corruption in Nigeria.
When he was getting subsidized dollars from Emefiele, did he expose Emefiele's corruption ?
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Lukuluku69(m): 2:29pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
Thats not true, USA imports Petrol, imports crude oil. This has not killed local production.
That argument is moot, we import a lot of stuff in Nigeria. Dangote should produce cheaper fuel and he will exterminate the competition, but not by trying to Levy the importers.
The US pay for those imports with the currency they printed, they are in control of and have the power of supply over. Is this the same with Nigeria?

We have been told severally (unless it is a lie) that importation put a strain on the value of our own Naira which in this case is what will happen if we cam produce locally but choose to buy from abroad.

Every Nation protect her local industries reason why the US under Trump have been imposing Tariffs on almost everything entering the US.

I am not siding with Dangote here but rather with Nigerians and Nigerian Economy.

Tens of Modular Refineries are coming on board soon. Continued importation will stifle them all.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:37pm On Dec 17, 2025
Lukuluku69:
The US pay for those imports with the currency they printed, they are in control of and have the power of supply over. Is this the same with Nigeria?

We have been told severally (unless it is a lie) that importation put a strain on the value of our own Naira which in this case is what will happen if we cam produce locally but choose to buy from abroad.

Every Nation protect her local industries reason why the US under Trump have been imposing Tariffs on almost everything entering the US.

I am not siding with Dangote here but rather with Nigerians and Nigerian Economy.

Tens of Modular Refineries are coming on board soon. Continued importation will stifle them all.

Dangote is seeking to establish a petrol "cartel" not run a business. When he is done getting rid of the importers, you think he will accept Naira from the government ? Forget all the jingoism and catch phrases they are selling Nigerians. Crude oil is an international commodity. Its dollars all over the world. Petrol too is the same.
If Dangote can produce at cheaper prices, why is he worried about the government. He can sell to Europe or even other African countries. But he wants to establish a cartel and make Nigerian Government his only customer. After he has succeeded in doing that. Then he will start playing with the prices. Depending on whether he likes the government or not. If he decides to raises prices 1 month to election. Whoever is in power might lose elections and if he lowers the price for one month only he would get votes for whoever is in power. THAT'S TOO MUCH POWER FOR ONE BUSINESS MAN. Energy has to be independent.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by 66uvie: 2:39pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
He walked for Apple, when it started, Do you know if you had invested 10k USD in apple at that time you will have a return of 80 million dollars today.
Not everyone is as poor as you think
......He worked for Apple is not the same thing as investing in Apple shares, and another wrong assumption is we are not saying he's poor but extremely Rich considering he's been a civil servant most of his life. And myself writing this, I'm not poor either for your information, I have a roof over my head and pay my bills without borrowing.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Willie2015: 2:41pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:

Thats the only ones you know.....lol
Go and research how many cement companies killed e,g Ibeto cement,benue cement to mention a few
You must be Gen Z.
Then go and research how much percentage of the market Dangote holds
Then go and research the meaning of monopoly
when you come back we can discuss.
Huaxin just completed a take over of Lafarge...that is a global brand that's way bigger than Dangote Cement. The US govt sued Microsoft for monopoly practices in the 90s. FG can control Dangote if they suspect monopoly practices., that's the global practice. BUA refinery is coming up to compete with Dangote in that sector. That's what they called healthy competition, we expect other refineries to come up with time.. Apart from the above.. we still have modular outfit coming up... It simply bad economics to grant several import licenses to kill local production in the name of competition ..that's a dumb strategy if you have good knowledge of basic economics. Lastly, What you have failed to explain how you intend to control those cabals thats milking Nigerians from those import licenses that's adding no value.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 2:46pm On Dec 17, 2025
Willie2015:
Huaxin just completed a take over of Lafarge...that is a global brand that's way bigger than Dangote Cement. The US govt sued Microsoft for monopoly practices in the 90s. FG can control Dangote if they suspect monopoly practices., that's the global practice. BUA refinery is coming up to compete with Dangote in that sector. That's what they called healthy competition, we expect other refineries to come up with time.. It simply bad economics to grant several import licenses to kill local production in the name of competition ..that's a dumb strategy if you have good knowledge of basic economics. Lastly, What you have failed to explain how you intend to control those cabals thats milking Nigerians from those import licenses that's adding no value.

At the end of the day, the price and consumer preference should determine the market. Unless Dangote is trying to establish a monopolistic cartel. Which is what he is doing. After he is done chasing all of them away.....guess what ? He will raise the prices.
Dangote shouldn't be worried by the import licenses, he should bring his petrol to the market cheaper. If he is able to do that....Farouk and co can go and buy the expensive imported petrol if they like.
But Dangote wants to kill all competition form the jump. In a country as large as Nigeria, energy is like security. You cannot let one single man sell petrol to 250 million Nigerians. Thats a dangerous precedence.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Willie2015: 2:50pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:

At the end of the day, the price and consumer preference should determine the market. Unless Dangote is trying to establish a monopolistic cartel. Which is what he is doing. After he is done chasing all of them away.....guess what ? He will raise the prices.
Dangote shouldn't be worried by the import licenses, he should bring his petrol to the market cheaper. If he is able to do that....Farouk and co can go and buy the expensive imported petrol if they like.
But Dangote wants to kill all competition form the jump. In a country as large as Nigeria, energy is like security. You cannot let one single man sell petrol to 250 million Nigerians. Thats a dangerous precedence.
Dangote did not chase Lafarge and BUA.. it will get better with time with entrance of other competitors. Let's hope for better FG to come up with policies to challenge monopoly practices. This is the best way to go... we have no business with import licenses.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by VanuatuWycombe: 3:06pm On Dec 17, 2025
Willie2015:
Is the corruption level in the US same as Nigeria.?? Textile industry completely collapsed cos of imports by Hausa elites.. Make una try dey reason properly now...i
You dey mind malali. What’s Nigerian population of vehicle owners, compared to that of the US? How many Nigerian vehicle owners fill up their tanks each time they go for refueling?
Is Nigeria industrialized the way the US is?
Su..egbe is comparing a country as wealthy, big as that with a poor Nigeria. Daily fuel consumption of US vehicles alone can match Nigeria’s average of 12 days’ consumption. It means what Nigeria will consume in 49 days, America will consume it an average of one day.

Why won’t the US import more crude?

Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by STEWpid(f): 3:20pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:

Farouk is not the problem. How many years has farouk been in that position ? How many years have our refineries not been working. Farouk was still in school when our refineries stopped working.
Dangote wants to monopolize the whole energy sector of Nigeria, or at least have everybody answerable to him. This from a security standpoint is not a wise idea. There should be open channels for petrol imports. These channels cant be kept corruption free. But there should still be open channels. There is no country in the world that buys its petrol from one private business man !! The minute you hand over the power in the energy sector to Dangote, he will raise the prizes of petrol and look the other way. If Dangote is producing Petrol at a good price, why is he
worried about levying the importers. Its a free market.....all goat sellers should bring their goat to the market and the buyers will decide who is selling at a better price. But dont tell us to levy some goat sellers,so your own goats can appear cheaper. Thats doesnt make sense.
He is just using Farouk as an excuse.
Your manner of reasoning lacks any form of trueness and objectivity,,

Is your reasons above the reason why Farouk must loot too?

Must we buy from Dangote if our refineries are working?

Are you a paid agent sent to defend theis particular topic/rubbish on naiyayand?

What about others that are also coming to build refineries?

Do you think Farouk & co don't own refineries or been major stakeholders in Malta and elsewhere, a strong reason why Nigerian refineries will never work?

Please, I am more enlightened to be deceived by the monopolistic card play on Dangote because he has never stopped anyone from establishing the same business.

Dangote has been the only private business man to tackle the cabals in the petroleum sector by establishing the business in Nigeria instead of establishing it elsewhere and work with Farouk to support importation.



When you fight corruption, the same corruption will fight you back!!




Chai..
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 3:49pm On Dec 17, 2025
STEWpid:
Your manner of reasoning lacks any form of trueness and objectivity,,
Is your reasons above the reason why Farouk must loot too?
Must we buy from Dangote if our refineries are working?
Are you a paid agent sent to defend theis particular topic/rubbish on naiyayand?
What about others that are also coming to build refineries?
Do you think Farouk & co don't own refineries or been major stakeholders in Malta and elsewhere, a strong reason why Nigerian refineries will never work?
Please, I am more enlightened to be deceived by the monopolistic card play on Dangote because he has never stopped anyone from establishing the same business.
Dangote has been the only private business man to tackle the cabals in the petroleum sector by establishing the business in Nigeria instead of establishing it elsewhere and work with Farouk to support importation.
When you fight corruption, the same corruption will fight you back!!

Chai..

Why is Farouk, Dangote's problem all of a sudden ? Have you asked yourself this ?
Farouk has not denied Dangote from selling his petrol in Nigeria.
If Dangote brings his products to the market at a better price. No one will buy from the importers. So why is Dangote worried about the importers?
Unless he has an ulterior motive, which is chase away all the importers and jack up the prices, later.
A country the size of Nigeria cannot hand over its energy needs to 1 single private businessman. We have to have open options.
The same way a house has NEPA and Solar and generator. If we eliminate Solar and Generator, then we are 100% at the mercy of NEPA.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by vanchi(m): 4:16pm On Dec 17, 2025
malali:
Business vs. Cartel

A business is built by competing. It creates value by offering better products, prices, or services, and it survives only as long as customers freely choose it. Regulation is accepted as part of the social contract, and failure is always possible.

A cartel is built by eliminating competition. It seeks profit through control, collusion, intimidation, regulatory capture, or barriers that prevent others from entering the market. Regulation is treated as an enemy, not a safeguard.


The line between them is crossed the moment success depends not on winning customers, but on silencing competitors and bending the rules.

#NIGERIANS STAND WITH FAROUK AHMED.
which Nigerian are you referring to?
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by malali: 4:19pm On Dec 17, 2025
vanchi:
which Nigerian are you referring to?
Sorry only the sensible ones.
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by jordyspices: 4:55pm On Dec 17, 2025
Dangote and expose this year na wah na him still tell us say the cabals get blending plant for malt now this again
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by Adee247(m): 8:03pm On Dec 17, 2025
My own question to this writer is this: are you saying that we can't question a public servant who spent over 5 million dollers on his children education because the accuser is the richest man in Africa?
Re: NMDPRA: Wealth, Power, And The Peril Of Public Outbursts - Festus Okunola by ViceGovernor: 10:57pm On Dec 17, 2025
Have you heard the latest or should I drop it for you sir?

The man has been sacked some minutes ago.....you think the Nigerian president is a phoool or some dumbo who doesn't recognize sabotage when he sees it?
malali:

He can end importation not by monopolizing the the sector but by dropping the price he sells.
Dangote wants to operate like a drug cartel. You can only buy petrol from me and you can only sell crude to me.
Its a free market, lower your prices and Nigeria will buy from you
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