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Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 10:22pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Tell me what your perverted bible said in
Colossians 2:9
Greek Theoites @ Colossians 2:9 meaning divine nature /quality.

Oga,stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 10:31pm On Dec 27, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Baba learn from the screenshot below.
Where does your reference above show that these bibles are perverted bibles?
John 5:37, Jesus says God is a Spirit invisible to humans.
Baba Kings want the bible to say what at he wants & conflict John 5:37.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 11:10pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
GOD told me he sent a strong delusion to you to never understand who jesus is because you are not permitted to have eternal life
Oga,Which GOD told you Jesus is Himself?
Oga,your claim conflicts against Jesus teaching of John 17:3.
Kingsnairaland:
Since u can't see where Bible said God purchased us with his own blood
John 3:16 & John 5:37,Jesus teaching is in your Bible.
You can't deceive Jesus.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 11:27pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Let me mock you with this question below
because God told me he sent you a strong delusion

So the almighty God why did he chose to live inside jesus since you claim jesus is not almighty
@John 17:21,Why did Jesus teach you that the disciples live inside God & Jesus his son?

Jesus teaching of John 17:21 refutes your claim.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 11:36pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Any place jesus speak it with red ink in most Bible just like below

So let me show you who is the first and the last speaking again

Revelation 1

17, And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me,
saying
to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
18, I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.......


Note
Jesus said I am the first and last
Many times in revelation so it him speaking all this while
Revelation 1:1,did Jesus teach you he was given the Revelation message to pass on to John?
@ Rev 1:1, Jesus is a Messenger ,you see hierarchy there. Pls study your Bible with clarity.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 11:53pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Read this until you see that Jesus is almighty

Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come
the Almighty
Rev 1:1, Jesus is the Messenger of Revelation reading it to John the apostle just as you read your Father's letter to his workers.

Therefore , Almighty in verse 8 is God his Father (meaning SENIOR) is the Author of the Revelation.
Simple and easy.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 11:55pm On Dec 27, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Yes or do you find it hard to read the Bible


Because the holy spirit of God told me he sent a strong delusion to you to believe lies about jesus since you refuse to believe the truth

And Paul said the same thing that really woke me up...
Paul said
That God will send strong delusion upon them, Because they did not love the truth, about who jesus is

I show you where jesus said he is the almighty

Yet you are still confused
Revelation 1:1,8 & Revelation 3:12, Jesus did not teach your claim.
God his Father is the Almighty.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 12:01am On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
The meaning of revelations book in Bible is actually mean

The revelation of jesus

It means God wants to reveal who jesus is

Every thing in revelation is about jesus

Just like every thing on the Bible is about jesus
So in revelation jesus is saying I am the almighty
grin grin grin grin
Rev 1:1 ,Jesus is a Messenger.
Rev 1:5-6 Jesus is a worshipper.
Rev 3:12 in heaven Jesus is a worshipper in the spirit realm.
Unu Trinitarians zukwanike
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Janosky: 12:04am On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Janos you Don come

You don't know I am a pastor
You don't know I speak in tongues
I am flilled with the holy spirit

That why I say what I say out of experience

Sorry you have not gotten this physical evidence in you in jw
Oga, study your Bible more & pray for understanding.
You don't seem that understand Revelation 1:1 let alone verse 8.
grin grin grin
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op):
MaxInDHouse:
So you don't have God inside you?🤔
GOD in me or in the believer is inside the believer according to the power that works in that person

But in jesus the complete fullness of God lives inside jesus

Glory

Just continue to be blind you won't have eternal life that Jesus gives

And for your information we don't have two gods since you think jesus is might God and God the almighty God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:35am On Dec 28, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain na
I notice jw don't like to write down the complete verse in bible

Are you ashamed your holes will be seen

You can't even write it down because you know your bible is perverted
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 12:29pm On Dec 28, 2025
saved from what if I may asked.

you Christian lot, seems to be missing the most important point in all these discussion.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by gohf: 12:34pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
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You can not obey God laws you don't even have what it takes to accomplish this task only one man did it and still surrendered his life because of it

Let break it down

why would Jesus tell the rich young ruler he had to sell everything to attain eternal life many people teach this to lead you to believe that you gotta surrender your entire life to attain salvation

but Jesus didn't tell the rich young ruler how to be saved he showed him why he couldn't save himself Jesus gave him an impossible command on purpose Jesus was showing him and everyone that was watching that salvation cannot be earned by good works.

the young ruler asked the wrong question he said what must I do to inherit eternal life so Jesus answered him according to the logic of his own question Jesus took him down the path of works to show him where that would ends he said keep the commandments so the rich young ruler said I've done this since my youth

so Jesus said okay then sell everything and that final command wasn't a set of salvation it was the final blow to his works based mindset it exposed the one thing he could never do the thing his heart trusted more than God and Jesus did that intentionally because Jesus always raises the law to an impossible level when someone thinks salvation comes through their good behavior

just like the other examples in scripture when Jesus said cut off your hand if it causes you to sin be perfect as your father's perfect forgive others or your father won't forgive you

But notice those things jesus list are actually not new covenant salvation requirements those are the hammer of impossibility for anyone still trying to earn eternal life by good performance

the rich young ruler is one of Jesus's clearest demonstrations that if salvation depends on what you do the standard becomes so high that no one can survive it

and right after the man walks away Jesus proves the point he says with man this is impossible (.... which means using man's holiness to get salvation it actually impossible......)

but with God all things are possible (which means putting your faith in jesus then holiness of God is possible)

that's Matthew nineteen twenty-six that line is just Jesus's summary of the entire encounter what's impossible is earning eternal life through human efforts.....

. what is possible is actually seeing it as a gift of God..

Then that is how you get saved forever.....

Glory
bro this your fake Jesus na wa o, anyway THE REAL JESUS DID NOT DO THE NONSENSE you wrote here
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34pm On Dec 28, 2025
The question is do you have God in you?

YES or NO!🙂

Kingsnairaland:
GOD in me or in the believer is inside the believer according to the power that works in that person
But in jesus the complete fullness of God lives inside jesus
Glory
Just continue to be blind you won't have eternal life that Jesus gives
And for your information we don't have two gods since you think jesus is might God and God the real God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:19pm On Dec 28, 2025
sonmvayina:
saved from what if I may asked.

you Christian lot, seems to be missing the most important point in all these discussion.
You probably don't understand what saved mean in Bible

It means to be given eternal life and that is the kind of life God possess it means to be chosen by God and be loved by God to be his child forever
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:20pm On Dec 28, 2025
gohf:
bro this your fake Jesus na wa o, anyway THE REAL JESUS DID NOT DO THE NONSENSE you wrote here
Clap for your self since you don't know jesus or even like him
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:21pm On Dec 28, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The question is do you have God in you?

YES or NO!🙂
You have to tell me if you have two God since you accept God is almighty and jesus is mighty
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:34pm On Dec 28, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, study your Bible more & pray for understanding.
You don't seem that understand Revelation 1:1 let alone verse 8.
grin grin grin
Let say you can live for infinite years and in the first one thousand years every one knows you as calling your self I am the first and the last

Now you gave the whole earth a book to know you and after six thousand years you come physically and you say I am the first and the last

But those that live after you refuse to see you as that first being that said it the first time because you hide yourself in human form

That is exactly what you are doing here

In the whole bible all God title jesus have used it or others have used it on jesus

But God chose to blind you from seeing it because you are not meant to get eternity
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op):
Janosky:
Rev 1:1 ,Jesus is a Messenger.
Rev 1:5-6 Jesus is a worshipper.
Rev 3:12 in heaven Jesus is a worshipper in the spirit realm.
Unu Trinitarians zukwanike
Yes all you said is true

It because you don't know God chose to be all in all

GOD chose to do every thing by himself and for himself

So that no man can boast in the presence of God

God chose to be all powerful

And for you to call yourself all powerful you must show you can pass through all types of things and come out on top

Glory

We worship a God that have proven nothing can break him and he can be alll in all

GOD CHOSE TO BE ALMIGHTY AND ALSO A SERVENT
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:41pm On Dec 28, 2025
Janosky:
Revelation 1:1,8 & Revelation 3:12, Jesus did not teach your claim.
God his Father is the Almighty.
GOD the father calls jesus the everlasting father grin grin grin
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:44pm On Dec 28, 2025
Janosky:
Revelation 1:1,did Jesus teach you he was given the Revelation message to pass on to John?
@ Rev 1:1, Jesus is a Messenger ,you see hierarchy there. Pls study your Bible with clarity.
Jesus is both the almighty and the servant he is all in all all titles jesus have handled it he has entered the pit the grave to do all things by himself.

GOD wants to do everything by himself so that no one can say he helped God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:45pm On Dec 28, 2025
Janosky:
@John 17:21,Why did Jesus teach you that the disciples live inside God & Jesus his son?

Jesus teaching of John 17:21 refutes your claim.
Write down the verse
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:46pm On Dec 28, 2025
Janosky:
Oga,Which GOD told you Jesus is Himself?
Oga,your claim conflicts against Jesus teaching of John 17:3.

John 3:16 & John 5:37,Jesus teaching is in your Bible.
You can't deceive Jesus.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
One question

WHO RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
You have to tell me if you have two God since you accept God is almighty and jesus is mighty
You don't know what you are saying?🤣
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
One question
WHO RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD
Simple question!

Read Act 5:30 and Romans 10:9
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 8:49pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is both the almighty and the servant he is all in all all titles jesus have handled it he has entered the pit the grave to do all things by himself.

GOD wants to do everything by himself so that no one can say he helped God
🤣🤣🤣So Jesus raised himself from the dead?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:06pm On Dec 28, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what you are saying?🤣
You are the one that told me God or the father is almighty God
And jesus is mighty God

Or are you ashamed to accept you said it grin grin
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is both the almighty and the servant.
You'll surely fit in perfectly into the stand up comedy Nigeria show!🤣
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Dec 28, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
You are the one that told me God or the father is almighty God
And jesus is mighty God
Or are you ashamed to accept you said it grin grin
So you want to add lies again?🤣

Can you quote where i said that on this thread?🤣
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:32pm On Dec 28, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Simple question!

Read Act 5:30 and Romans 10:9
If I you can't write the Bible verse and explain it then stop acting like you know bible you don't know bible and you don't know God since you quote nonsense

Imagine Paul quote torah instead of writing it in letter to explain what is in the torah
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:33pm On Dec 28, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣So Jesus raised himself from the dead?
Should I show you where jesus raised himself
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