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| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:38pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Show me |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:54pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You don't know the meaning of almighty or God It actually means everything in one.... GOD came to Abraham in human form you don't know God. . A servant is one who builds a garden for a person and provide food for that person That is what God did for Adam |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:56pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Every one knows your Truthseeker10 But no problem when he comes I will ask him that question |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Before i thought you are just a misinformed churchgoer but now it's clear something is really funny about you surely you are a joke!🤣 Farewell!🤣 |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:20pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Yes, the Bible shows God serving His people in the Old Testament through His provision, guidance, rescue, and equipping them with gifts and leadership (like priests and prophets Ways God Served His People: Provision & Protection: God fed Israel with manna in the wilderness, provided water, and protected them from enemies, as seen in their Exodus journey. Jesus famously stated in the Bible, "the Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:28, also Mark 10:45), |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:26pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Oga I'm still waiting oo |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:28pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:notably in John 2:19, saying, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up," referring to His own body Jesus words I will raise it up the same thing jesus do is the same thing God almighty do that why we say jesus is God almighty John 10:18 where He declared, "I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again," Jesus said I have power to raise my life up again showing His power over His own life and death, John 11:25 (Resurrection and Life): Jesus famously declared, "I am the resurrection and the life.. Which means he can die and raise himself since he is resurrection himself..... |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:28pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:I did |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:46pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Explain Galatians 1:1 below. King James Bible Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead ![]() Who raised Christ up from the dead according to the verse above? The Father or the son? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:15pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:I like this since God blind you from understanding trinity Let see what Bible also said You also forgot that Paul also told you that it is the spirit of God aka the holy spirit that raised jesus from the dead Romans 8:11 ► And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. New Living Translation The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. So three persons have been shown to raise jesus from the dead What is God trying to teach you |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:24pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Janosky:Write down what your bible said.... They teach you in jw to not write bible because you guys act like Muslims |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:29pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Janosky:Lol invisible yet God appeared to Abraham physically Genesis 18 And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 11:32pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Does the verse above claim that the spirit is God or that the spirit is that of God? You claimed earlier that it was Jesus that raised himself. So are you now saying that it was the Trinity that raised Jesus from the dead? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MotiVVaTTi: 2:34am On Dec 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:It is those that are raptured that will reign with Christ for 1000 years. |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:30am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Janosky:Yes but God appears to Abraham in human form ![]() |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:32am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Janosky:So the Messenger is the first and the last |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:43am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Since you are blind to understand trinity that why you ask this You refuse to understand trinity you refuse to access accept that you are even trinity That why you ask this And as long as you refuse it you can't understand God and you can't understand jesus That why Bible said it the mystery of God it is the mystery of Godliness which God eventually revealed to us that believes in him GOD did not reveal this mystery to everyone in the past he kept it for those he loves Until God opens your eyes to this mystery You will continue to be blind Bible mentions the "mystery of godliness" in 1 Timothy 3:16, describing God's great, once-hidden plan revealed through Jesus Christ: His manifestation in flesh, vindication by the Spirit, appearance to angels, proclamation to nations, belief in the world, and ascension to glory, all pointing to salvation and a godly life through Christ. |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51am On Dec 29, 2025 |
MotiVVaTTi:The word RAPTURE is nowhere in God's word but i think i can relate with what you are trying to say because the Bible confirmed that a limited number of humans will be taken to heaven with Jesus as his corulers {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} Jesus said these people are no longer coming back because they will be there forever as spirit creatures {Luke 20:34-36} and he will go and prepare a place for them {John 14:1-3} because God never purposed for humans to live in heaven! Psalms 115:16 So while this limited number are taken to heaven Jesus will make sure his other disciples {John 10:16} who are not part of his corulers are safe on planet earth {Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:7-11} the reason why God's word refer to those taken to heaven as SAVED is later revealed in the Bible book of Revelation 20:5-6 and it's because after the 1,000 years reign of Christ Jesus and his 144,000 corulers Satan who has been locked up will be released as he claimed that no human can remain faithful to God under test {Job 1:9-11} at that time all inhabitants of planet earth would have become perfect just like Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden with no lacking that is when Satan will be let loosed to come and test them and whatever anyone chooses to do at that time will serve as judgement because all those who followed Satan will be destroyed along with Satan! Revelation 20:15 |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 8:35am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:🤣🤣🤣so all what you've written above shows that it was Jesus that raised himself before you later changed mouth to trinity? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Before he uses three accounts: 1. Kingsnairaland 2. BishopKingsley 3. GardenOfGod One to insult whoever doesn't agree with him and the third to play like a referee so after insulting people with one account the other he uses to pretend like peace maker that is why he thinks he's been discussing with the same person!🙂 |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 10:35am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:what is God saving you from? that is my question... |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:10pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Dude because you don't understand trinity That why you don't understand that any time I say jesus did so and so It is the same thing as saying God the Father did that same thing And it is the same thing as saying the holy spirit did that same thing That why you see the Bible continue to interchange three of them as doing the same thing Glory Bible is showing you this three are one Yet you can't decode it |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:13pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
sonmvayina:Many things but the main thing is God is saving you from death Because the soul that sin must die and since all have sinned death is the end of all mankind But there are two kinds of death physical death and spiritual death So God is saving you from spiritual death so you can have eternal life and live with God for eternity |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:42pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Lol....na wa.....see your logic. So when Jesus died, it was the Trinity that died including the Father and holy spirit? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 3:11pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
v Kingsnairaland:what is death?? what is physical death? what is spiritual death? please educate me. I want to learn. |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 5:52pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:You can never understand trinity even though I have explained it to you many times How is it hard for you to get this mystery that Is plane open Nothing will make you understand it because God blind you to it your heart refuses to accept it You even refuse to accept how God made you that you have a spirit and a soul that live in your body As long as you refuse to accept how God made you how then can you understand the higher one about how God exists |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:00pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
sonmvayina:Death is when some thing stops to exist Now since man is trinity he is a soul a body a spirit The body is made of or from clay soil The spirit is from God made of or from fire equivalent to God's spirit The Soul it just like a software it your thinking part of the human being The body can die and perish but the spirit can't stop to exist because it is spirit... so physical death can happen to body and it stops to exist But spiritual death when it happens to the spirit it takes place when the soul and spirit or the new body is put in hell or lake of fire That is eternal separation from God |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 7:14pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Na wa....when Jesus died, did the Trinity die, yes or no? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:00pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:When your physical body die did your spirit and soul die with it |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:13pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Did you not claim that anything Jesus does is also done to the father and holy spirit? |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:35pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Listen Any thing jesus do is the same thing the father do and it is the same thing holy spirit do.. Yet each of them still have special things they do individually But the question is you don't know who jesus is Jesus is both God almighty and a man While the father is only God almighty And the spirit is only God almighty Now you see the advantage and disadvantage jesus have He is both God almighty plus he is a man As a man what ever happened to Adam can happen to him and what ever God almighty can do he can do So as a man he can die if he wants So the only way a sinless jesus can bring humans back to God almighty is for jesus as a man to die So he accepted it and died Because only God the son have the ability to be both God almighty and be a man God the Father and God the holy spirit don't have that ability to be a man They have their own special ability One day I will tell you the job of the Father Son Holy spirit They have special specific job in the universe I explained jesus own up up |
| Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:43pm On Dec 29, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:Lol...na wa....so they have special things that they do individually after you claimed that they do the same thing? So Jesus who is an Almighty God has disadvantages? Na wa oo Where does the Bible teach that the Holy Spirit is God Almighty? |
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