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Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op):
MaxInDHouse:
Your personal opinion.
Adam is the father of all humans but he chose death the second Adam chose life that's why he became a life giving spirit who bore children by faith {1Corinthans 15:45} he will live forever after using his perfect human life to pay for the sin of his faithful children that's what makes him the everlasting father. Isaiah 9:6

The word "BORN" means the person in question is a "CREATED" being! Isaiah 9:6
Born doesn't mean you did not live before that why jesus told them that even before Abraham was created I have been God almighty.. (I AM)

God almighty prepared a body for jesus

GOD prepared a body For himself that is what Bible say it did not say God made that body

I told you as a man he has to be born not made.... Because born means to come legally like a man that why jesus is both man and God almighty

Which is hard for you to understand
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:47pm On Dec 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So Why are we asking the Father for the Holy Spirit if the Holy Spirit is Almighty God on his own?
Because God wants to make it easy for everyone to be saved

The holy spirit is actually for you to receive power and begin to do mighty work for God or for God to use the power in your to show juju people that they can't kill you

The thief on the cross believed in jesus but did not receive the holy spirit

So you can receive jesus and still go to paradise you can receive jesus and still have eternal life many Christians only stop at receiving jesus in them

Another reason God wants us to acknowledge the presence of the holy spirit by asking God to give us the holy spirit
God wants us to recognise the holy spirit work

His work is to give you power
So you can do the work of God which is a very dangerous work because you will encounter battles
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 3:50pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Because God wants to make it easy for everyone to be saved

The holy spirit is actually for you to receive power and begin to do mighty work for God or for God to use the power in your to show juju people that they can't kill you

The thief on the cross believed in jesus but did not receive the holy spirit

So you can receive jesus and still go to paradise you can receive jesus and still have eternal life many Christians only stop at receiving jesus in them

Another reason God wants us to acknowledge the presence of the holy spirit by asking God to give us the holy spirit
God wants us to recognise the holy spirit work

His work is to give you power
So you can do the work of God which is a very dangerous work because you will encounter battles
Oga did you not say that the Holy Spirit is an Almighty God on his own, so why is the Father in Control of the Holy Spirit?
Why is the Holy Spirit not controlling himself?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:53pm On Dec 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣This man.....where does the Bible teach that the Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
When i say powerful I actually mean the part of the man that rules more than the other part

Example Adam soul which is his brain rules more that why Bible even said he became a living soul

While in jesus he became a life giver life giving spirit so that what I meant by powerful

Examples
just as Adam brought sin and death to humanity through disobedience,
Jesus, the "life-giving Spirit" from heaven, brings righteousness, spiritual life, and resurrection to believers through His obedience and sacrifice.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 3:54pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
When i say powerful I actually mean the part of the man that rules more than the other part

Example Adam soul which is his brain rules more that why Bible even said he became a living soul

While in jesus he became a life giver live giving spirit so that what I meant by powerful

Examples
just as Adam brought sin and death to humanity through disobedience,
Jesus, the "life-giving Spirit" from heaven, brings righteousness, spiritual life, and resurrection to believers through His obedience and sacrifice.
🤣🤣🤣🤣so the brain of Adam is the soul? Is the brain not part of the body?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12pm On Dec 31, 2025
Born doesn't literally mean Jesus was a human born by Mary rather he existed as one of the angels in heaven before his earthly mission.
All angels exist before Adam not to talk of Abraham who is great grandson of Adam.

Angels are all God's children {Job 38:7} and Jesus is one of them Revelation 22:16} but he's the first among them that's why the Bible called him first born of all creation! Colossians 1:15-16

Kingsnairaland:
Born doesn't mean you did not live before that why jesus told them that even before Abraham was created I have been God almighty.. (I AM)
God almighty prepared a body for jesus
GOD prepared a body For himself that is what Bible say it did not say God made that body. I told you as a man he has to be born not made.... Because born means to come legally like a man that why jesus is both man and God almighty
Which is hard for you to understand.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:17pm On Dec 31, 2025
This is why you are ignorant because lots of translators investigated the KJV to find out what is wrong that's why they discovered it was mistranslated.

Do you know how many people were killed by trinitarians because they wanted to know the truth about God's word?

Well the correct rendering is "the word was a god" that's what makes perfect sense with the rest of that chapter!🙂

Kingsnairaland:
The founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, and the subsequent translators of their Bible, the New World Translation (NWT), rendered John 1:1 as "the Word was a god " (rather than "the Word was God " ) to align the verse with their non-trinitarian doctrine that Jesus is a divine, mighty being but not the Almighty God.
Your founder in jw actually accept that he changed it to a god
Claiming there should be an
indefinite article
The founder also hate hell fire and lake of fire and he teach them those things don't exist lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:33pm On Dec 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Oga did you not say that the Holy Spirit is an Almighty God on his own, so why is the Father in Control of the Holy Spirit?
Why is the Holy Spirit not controlling himself?
You are still not understanding trinity they three do things together as one

Your soul tell your brain what to do and automatically your body's do it
Your spirit gives life to your soul and your body

The job of God the Father is mainly to speak
The job of jesus mainly is to act and do physical work
While the job of the holy spirit is to give life

So your questioning don't add up since you you don't understand that they all act together as one the same way your body act together with your soul and spirit
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:38pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Born doesn't literally mean Jesus was a human born by Mary rather he existed as one of the angels in heaven before his earthly mission.
All angels exist before Adam not to talk of Abraham who is great grandson of Adam.

Angels are all God's children {Job 38:7} and Jesus is one of them Revelation 22:16} but he's the first among them that's why the Bible called him first born of all creation! Colossians 1:15-16
That is devil doctrine that is what those who so much hate jesus preach because they find it hard to understand how a man can be God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:41pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is why you are ignorant because lots of translators investigated the KJV to find out what is wrong that's why they discovered it was mistranslated.

Do you know how many people were killed by trinitarians because they wanted to know the truth about God's word?

Well the correct rendering is "the word was a god" that's what makes perfect sense with the rest of that chapter!🙂
The reason you don't have holy spirit living in you is because you believe that nonsense lies

And that is why you can't speak in tongues yet

If you want to speak in tongues and to get the holy spirit
Then you have to drop those evil teachings

So you have to decide
Do you want to experience God
And to see all this things he write in the Bible happen in your life... You can't get eternal life until you accept jesus as your lord God almighty

Then stop following jw they are a cult
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:45pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
That is devil doctrine that is what those who so much hate jesus preach because they find it hard to understand how a man can be God
Guy Moses was God jàre! Exodus 7:1

Heaven did not fall. wink
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:45pm On Dec 31, 2025
I WANT YOU TO Pray THIS PRAYER

SAY GOD ALMIGHTY

IF JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY PLEASE GOD LET HIM APPEAR TO ME IN MY DREAM OR IN VISIONS

PRAY IT FOR MINUMUM OF SIX MONTHS

AND YOU WILL SEE JESUS AS GOD ALMIGHTY
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:46pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Guy Moses was God jàre! Exodus 7:1

Heaven did not fall. wink
GOD made him god there is a difference even we are gods we are created gods
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Dec 31, 2025
Speaking that failed to make peace reign among its speakers!🤣

Kingsnairaland:
The reason you don't have holy spirit living in you is because you believe that nonsense lies. And that is why you can't speak in tongues yet. If you want to speak in tongues and to get the holy spirit. Then you have to drop those evil teachings. So you have to decide
Do you want to experience God
And to see all this things he write in the Bible happen in your life... You can't get eternal life until you accept jesus as your lord God almighty . Then stop following jw they are a cult
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Dec 31, 2025
That's what Jesus claimed, he said we are Gods! John 10:34
So stop deceiving yourself Jesus is a god like others created that's why he called us his brothers {John 20:17} God never called His worshipers "brothers"

Kingsnairaland:
GOD made him god there is a difference even we are gods we are created gods
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 5:38pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
That's what Jesus claimed, he said we are Gods! John 10:34
So stop deceiving yourself Jesus is a god like others created that's why he called us his brothers {John 20:17} God never called His worshipers "brothers"
Bible called Abraham friend of God

There is no difference lol

GOD called David a man after my heart that almost like saying my best brother after my heart lol

As long as you accept that fake bible John 1

You will continually be blind

I have experience God I have experience holy spirit in me my stomach has boiled river of living water I have seen jesus on the throne

If you say that it did not bring one line of thought.. Then you decide if you want one line of thoughts or eternal life with jesus

You can chose one line of thoughts I chose jesus and eternal life and holy spirit
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Bible called Abraham friend of God

There is no difference lol
A father can call his son "friend" due to their closeness but no father ever calls his son "brother" because he caused his birth! wink
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:50pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
A father can call his son "friend" due to their closeness but no father ever calls his son "brother" because he caused his birth! wink
You are only confused because you don't understand how God can become a man

You don't think or you don't have respect for God to decide to be a man

Let me tell you.. it not possible for man to become God almighty...

But it is not the same as

GOD almighty to become a man

There is a difference between the two

GOD can even decide to be a lion it is his choice

He is God almighty

Any thing powerful can decide to become lower that why Bible praise God so much and said he took up the flesh of a servant to save us he took up the level that is even lower angel level to save us.. that why we cry in our heart

My father my father each day

We love God so much because he first loved us
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:03pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Guy Moses was God jàre! Exodus 7:1

Heaven did not fall. wink
Both angels and Satan and all the host of heaven watch how God bend so low become a man and bleed and cry and die and come back to live

That why they so much fear respect God

And they even hand him the same authority and power he gave them

GOD swallowed death and killed death
God swallowed grave and overcome it

GOD is so powerful and awesome that he tries his word he put his word to the test


GOD test his word in fire to see if it is truly powerful
And he did it openly all the universe saw him die and devil in his heart must have thought yes I have won until the third day when he saw God dealing with him in the grave and talking all principality in bondage and coming out alive

Glory
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10:
Kingsnairaland:
You are still not understanding trinity they three do things together as one

Your soul tell your brain what to do and automatically your body's do it
Your spirit gives life to your soul and your body

The job of God the Father is mainly to speak
The job of jesus mainly is to act and do physical work
While the job of the holy spirit is to give life

So your questioning don't add up since you you don't understand that they all act together as one the same way your body act together with your soul and spirit
Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
You are only confused because you don't understand how God can become a man.
Like Moses shey? smiley
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:34pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Both angels and Satan and all the host of heaven watch how God bend so low become a man and bleed and cry and die and come back to live.
And was begging himself to save himself shey?
Ọmọ you funny pass Mr Ibu! cheesy
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:53pm On Dec 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
If I show you this things will that make you believe that Jesus is God almighty

Or will you continue to fight again jesus
Knowing it hard to kick against the stone
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:55pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
And was begging himself to save himself shey?
Ọmọ you funny pass Mr Ibu! cheesy
Dj

Because you don't know bible that why you don't know your self even if I explained it to you something will blind you from seeing it
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:57pm On Dec 31, 2025
God told us that when someone has wrong foundations in the Bible it very hard for us that are righteous to do any things to help that person

The wrong foundations is the Bible you use as long as you use that evil bible you can't understand God and jesus
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58pm On Dec 31, 2025
Continue deceiving and lying to yourself!🤣

Kingsnairaland:
Dj
Because you don't know bible that why you don't know your self even if I explained it to you something will blind you from seeing it
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 11:11pm On Dec 31, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
If I show you this things will that make you believe that Jesus is God almighty

Or will you continue to fight again jesus
Knowing it hard to kick against the stone
Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:41pm On Dec 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
If I show you this things will that make you believe that Jesus is God almighty
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:43pm On Dec 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving and lying to yourself!🤣
They refused to listen to jesus and jesus told them they will die in their sins if they refuse to believe

I now tell u you and jw will bow and kneel to jesus and call him and say jesus is indeed God almighty at the last day by then it will be too late
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 2:02am On Jan 01
Kingsnairaland:
If I show you this things will that make you believe that Jesus is God almighty
Oga simply answer the questions of your teachings below. If you can't just rest.

Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:37am On Jan 01
Kingsnairaland:
They refused to listen to jesus and jesus told them they will die in their sins if they refuse to believe. I now tell u you and jw will bow and kneel to jesus and call him and say jesus is indeed God almighty at the last day by then it will be too late.
In your delusional thoughts shey?🤣

Did anyone call Jesus "Almighty God" ?🤣
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:50am On Jan 01
Truthseeker10:
Oga simply answer the questions of your teachings below. If you can't just rest.

Where does the Bible teach that the soul tells the brain what to do? Did you not tell me here that Adam's brain is his soul? Is the brain not part of the body again?

In the example of the human body that you gave, Who is the Holy spirit giving life, is it the father or the son?

Where does the Bible teach that Adam Soul is Powerful than his spirit?

Where does the Bible also teach that Jesus spirit is powerful than his soul?
I will use Bible to explain it soon
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