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Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 8:08am On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
You are funny because you still don't understand this mystery

Jesus is the life giving spirit because jesus spirit is called the holy spirit

Just like the Bible said God the Father made the universe Bible also said jesus made it Bible also said the holy spirit made it
but
We now know who actually made it
now because we differentiate their works we know because we now have the wisdom of God in us through what we see in the Bible
so who actually made it
We
Now discovered it is jesus work to make things....

. Now
That the same thing here too
God the Father gives life and he is also life giving spirit and has the capacity too.

Jesus gives gives life and he is also life giving spirit

But we now discover it the personal work of the holy spirit to give life and to be a life giving spirit

Hope you now understand it..
What is the meaning of Jesus spirit is the holy spirit, What kind of logic is this?

So who is Jesus according to 1 Corinthians 15:45?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:31am On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
So Jesus is the Almighty God and cannot command the father?
You are so funny you want to see command before you accept right let me show you one tip

Look at the command jesus spoke to the father

John 17:5 ►
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

New Living Translation
Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.


Now I want you to find out the response God almighty gave to jesus our God

Let me see if you can now believe
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:34am On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
Lol...so "ego eimi" only means "I AM" and nothing else?
Funny question

Please tell me what I am
Is in Hebrew and Greek
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op):
MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant correlation.
When i told you only two people was said to have their own personal angels as followers Jesus {Matthew 25:31} and Satan {Revelations 12:7} afterwards Michael is called the archangel {Jude 9} whose voice will raise the dead {Daniel 12:1-3} Jesus said he will raise the dead {John 5:28-29} Paul said Jesus comes in the voice of archangel {1Thessalonians 4:16} and there is one angel who used to represent God during times when God's people needs help {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} Nebuchadnezzar saw this angel as "Son of God" {Daniel 3:25} Jesus called himself God's Son {John 3:16} Moses said angels are God's sons and they are all morning stars {Job 38:7} Isaiah said Satan is also a morning star {Isaiah 14:12} Jesus said he is also a morning star but brighter than the rest! Revelation 22:16

Now i conclude that Jesus is Michael the archangel you disagreed claiming it does not make sense but saying Jesus is the same person praying to himself to save himself from himself.

If you don't agree with me that Jesus is an angel and the greatest of them all i also disagree with you that Jesus can't be the Almighty God who is worshiping himself.

So ọmọ it's better to stick to what Jesus called himself "Son of God" John 3:16🙂
You are confused

The father is not jesus and not the holy spirit
Jesus is not the father and not Holy spirit

But God almighty is
The father
The son
The holy spirit

When it comes to us

Just like your soul is not your physical body and is not your spirit


But man
Is
Soul
Body
Spirit

Continue to be confused since it hard for you to get it
That why Bible calls it mystery for people like you
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:42am On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
What is the meaning of Jesus spirit is the holy spirit, What kind of logic is this?

So who is Jesus according to 1 Corinthians 15:45?
Write down any Bible place you mentioned because they force you people to not write it down so that you will not understand Bible

For the first question

Let say your name is Truthseeker10
Your spirit name will be the spirit of Truthseeker10

So am telling you that the spirit of jesus
Is also called Holy spirit

How is it hard for you to understand

The spirit of the father is as also called
Holy spirit
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:47am On Jan 03
Story for the gods.

What Jesus said is i should believe him as God's only begotten Son! John 3:16

If i do salvation is SURE.

Period. smiley

Kingsnairaland:
You are confused

The father is not jesus and not the holy spirit
Jesus is not the father and not Holy spirit

But God almighty is
The father
The son
The holy spirit

When it comes to us

Just like your soul is not your physical body and is not your spirit


But man
Is
Soul
Body
Spirit

Continue to be confused since it hard for you to get it
That why Bible calls or mystery
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:05am On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
Story for the gods.

What Jesus said is i should believe him as God's only begotten Son! John 3:16

If i do salvation is SURE.

Period. smiley
Yes but that is not only what jesus said

Jesus said many deep things

Like
Look I am he... That he means I am God almighty... But jesus did not want people who eyes are closed to understand it easily..

Jesus also said I am the saviour .. Which means I am God almighty... Because Only God can save

Bible said we should follow those who follow jesus

And Thomas follow jesus and called jesus
My God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:05pm On Jan 03
Deep things can't stop people from being saved it's not accepting Jesus as teacher and doing what he teaches that matters. smiley

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus said many deep things.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:44pm On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
Deep things can't stop people from being saved it's not accepting Jesus as teacher and doing what he teaches that matters. smiley
The day you accept jesus into your life or begin to see him as God almighty

Remember today that I told you

You will understand God almighty better and you will begin to see jesus in vision and when you ask God to give you the holy spirit

You will begin to speak in tongues

Then you will experience God and all he wrote in the Bible

But if you refuse to accept jesus in your heart then you will not have everlasting life
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
The day you accept jesus.
As God's only begotten Son just as Jesus himself said! John 3:16 smiley
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 5:12pm On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
As God's only begotten Son just as Jesus himself said! John 3:16 smiley
It is an abomination for God almighty to give birth to angel

If God wanted to born he will only born a child that is also an Almighty child God

We human can never born animals

That why saying jesus is Micheal is wrong lol

Jesus came with the voice of Michael to do things which shows both are different lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 5:20pm On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant correlation.
When i told you only two people was said to have their own personal angels as followers Jesus {Matthew 25:31} and Satan {Revelations 12:7} afterwards Michael is called the archangel {Jude 9} whose voice will raise the dead {Daniel 12:1-3} Jesus said he will raise the dead {John 5:28-29} Paul said Jesus comes in the voice of archangel {1Thessalonians 4:16} and there is one angel who used to represent God during times when God's people needs help {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} Nebuchadnezzar saw this angel as "Son of God" {Daniel 3:25} Jesus called himself God's Son {John 3:16} Moses said angels are God's sons and they are all morning stars {Job 38:7} Isaiah said Satan is also a morning star {Isaiah 14:12} Jesus said he is also a morning star but brighter than the rest! Revelation 22:16

Now i conclude that Jesus is Michael the archangel you disagreed claiming it does not make sense but saying Jesus is the same person praying to himself to save himself from himself.

If you don't agree with me that Jesus is an angel and the greatest of them all i also disagree with you that Jesus can't be the Almighty God who is worshiping himself.

So ọmọ it's better to stick to what Jesus called himself "Son of God" John 3:16🙂
Lol
At least I have clear your mind

Jesus is not the father and not the holy spirit

I explained it up because it looks like before you thought jesus is God the Father

No wonder you were confused lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:32pm On Jan 03
Do you accept Jesus as God's only begotten Son? John 3:16 smiley

Kingsnairaland:
It is an abomination for God almighty to give birth to angel. If God wanted to born he will only born a child that is also an Almighty child God. We human can never born animals. That why saying jesus is Micheal is wrong lol. Jesus came with the voice of Michael to do things which shows both are different lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:33pm On Jan 03
Until you accept Jesus as God's only begotten Son! John 3:16 smiley

Kingsnairaland:
Lol
At least I have clear your mind. Jesus is not the father and not the holy spirit. I explained it up because it looks like before you thought jesus is God the Father. No wonder you were confused lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 8:36pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
Write down any Bible place you mentioned because they force you people to not write it down so that you will not understand Bible

For the first question

Let say your name is Truthseeker10
Your spirit name will be the spirit of Truthseeker10

So am telling you that the spirit of jesus
Is also called Holy spirit

How is it hard for you to understand

The spirit of the father is as also called
Holy spirit
🤣🤣🤣na wa for this guy....what does 1 Corinthians 15:45 call Jesus if the spirit of Jesus is the holy spirit?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 8:37pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
Funny question

Please tell me what I am
Is in Hebrew and Greek
Oga does the Greek word "ego eimi" in John 8:58 can only be translated as "I am"?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:23pm On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
Oga does the Greek word "ego eimi" in John 8:58 can only be translated as "I am"?
Translation is not the issue

Bible is showing you jesus used the same thing God used yet you so much hate jesus
That you want to twist it that he said the other meaning lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:25pm On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣na wa for this guy....what does 1 Corinthians 15:45 call Jesus if the spirit of Jesus is the holy spirit?
You did not say what
Corinthians 15:45
Said
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:28pm On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
Until you accept Jesus as God's only begotten Son! John 3:16 smiley
Bible shows the whole bible is written because of jesus .... Not because of the father lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:37pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
You did not say what
Corinthians 15:45
Said
You don't have it in your bible? I've I not posted it for you before?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:37pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
Translation is not the issue

Bible is showing you jesus used the same thing God used yet you so much hate jesus
That you want to twist it that he said the other meaning lol
Oga does the Greek word "ego eimi" in John 8:58 can only be translated as "I am"? Yes or no?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 9:41pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
You are so funny you want to see command before you accept right let me show you one tip

Look at the command jesus spoke to the father

John 17:5 ►
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

New Living Translation
Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.


Now I want you to find out the response God almighty gave to jesus our God

Let me see if you can now believe
Your fellow Trinitarians do not agree with you as shown below.

Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08pm On Jan 03
Kingsnairaland:
Bible shows the whole bible is written because of jesus .... Not because of the father lol
Of course the Bible was written because of the first Adam and the last Adam since the two characters had so much to do about how suffering, crime and death started and how all these things will end! smiley
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:38pm On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
You don't have it in your bible? I've I not posted it for you before?
GOD said write it down make it plain for the one who wants to read it to use it in his life

So if you can't write it down as God said then you don't know the meaning of the place you claim
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:40pm On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
Oga does the Greek word "ego eimi" in John 8:58 can only be translated as "I am"? Yes or no?
I list all the three meaning and told you the original one jesus said in English
yet you continue to ask hopping that I will change my answer

It shows you don't know I don't have power to change the ultimate word of God
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:45pm On Jan 03
Truthseeker10:
Your fellow Trinitarians do not agree with you as shown below.
Funny man

Meta ai

Does not have a relationship with God almighty

And meta ai makes mistakes

Ask meta ai who won the crimea war it will tell you UK France allied nation won it

Then ask meta ai if they won it why did Russia continue to occupy crimea after the war

It will apologise to you and say Russia won it

Lol
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:52pm On Jan 03
MaxInDHouse:
Of course the Bible was written because of the first Adam and the last Adam since the two characters had so much to do about how suffering, crime and death started and how all these things will end! smiley
It about jesus not Adam
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:01am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
It about jesus not Adam
It's about two persons who are God's Sons:

Jesus and Adam! Luke 3:23, 38 compare to 1Corinthans 15:45🙂
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:03am On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
It's about two persons who are God's Sons:

Jesus and Adam! Luke 3:23, 38 compare to 1Corinthans 15:45🙂
Nothing to compare the places you name has nothing important that why you can't write it

Jesus word said Bible is written because of me
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:53am On Jan 04
You just love lying and deceiving yourself!🤣

Much wasn't said about Adam because he was cut off and later died while Jesus lived on and on even though he died God raised him back to life so regarding what led to the writing of Bible they are equals! 1Corinthans 15:45

Where is the highlighted written in Bible?🤣

Kingsnairaland:
Nothing to compare the places you name has nothing important that why you can't write it. Jesus word said Bible is written because of me
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:25am On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
You just love lying and deceiving yourself!🤣

Much wasn't said about Adam because he was cut off and later died while Jesus lived on and on even though he died God raised him back to life so regarding what led to the writing of Bible they are equals! 1Corinthans 15:45

Where is the highlighted written in Bible?🤣
Max jesus is directly talking to you...

Yes, in the Bible

John 5:39 KJV,
, Jesus said, "You search the (Bible) Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and they are they which testify of Me"


Jesus told people like (max) they were diligently studying the Old Testament scriptures, expecting eternal life from them, but failing to see that those same writings pointed directly to jesus as the source of that eternal life, which they refused to accept.

Lol
I told you I will show you many things in the Bible

John 5:39 ►
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,

New Living Translation
“You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!
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