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Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:29am On Jan 04
John 5:39 ►
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,

New Living Translation
“You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:36am On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Your fellow Trinitarians do not agree with you as shown below.
When I show you the command jesus said

I also told you what did God almighty say next

If you had seen the response that God gave you would have known it is a command

But because you don't really know bible that is why you can't locate God response
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59am On Jan 04
Of course i believe what he said about himself:

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am" John 14:28

Not as you and your Trinitarian mentors are saying Jesus is the Almighty. cheesy

Kingsnairaland:
Max jesus is directly talking to you...
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:12am On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
Of course i believe what he said about himself:

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am" John 14:28

Not as you and your Trinitarian mentors are saying Jesus is the Almighty. cheesy
I am only showing you this things because I love you and because I know you are taught the wrong things growing up and that when God opens your eye you will be like Paul

Now let see what Paul called jesus he said he is our Great God and saviour

Glory

Titus 2:13 ►
while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

New Living Translation
while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:18am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
When I show you the command jesus said

I also told you what did God almighty say next

If you had seen the response that God gave you would have known it is a command

But because you don't really know bible that is why you can't locate God response
Oga your fellow Trinitarians do not agree with you. Just rest.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:19am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
Funny man

Meta ai

Does not have a relationship with God almighty

And meta ai makes mistakes

Ask meta ai who won the crimea war it will tell you UK France allied nation won it

Then ask meta ai if they won it why did Russia continue to occupy crimea after the war

It will apologise to you and say Russia won it

Lol
To prove that meta ai made a mistake, show me another Trinitarian reliable source that Claim that Jesus commanded the father in John 17:5
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19am On Jan 04
Love yourself Mr Trinity.

Paul talked about two different persons in that verse:

While we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13

Paul has the knowledge of two persons just as Jesus himself said we need to have for our salvation:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." John 17:3

Jesus expatiate saying his father is the only true God while he is the messenger SENT!🙂
Kingsnairaland:
I am only showing you this things because I love you and because I know you are taught the wrong things growing up and that when God opens your eye you will be like Paul
Now let see what Paul called jesus he said he is our Great God and saviour

Glory
Titus 2:13 ►
while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

New Living Translation
while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:21am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
I list all the three meaning and told you the original one jesus said in English
yet you continue to ask hopping that I will change my answer

It shows you don't know I don't have power to change the ultimate word of God
Oga the meaning you listed were in Exodus 3:14. Is 'ego eimi" in Hebrew? I have been asking you for the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in the Greek septuagint but you've been running away.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:21am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
GOD said write it down make it plain for the one who wants to read it to use it in his life

So if you can't write it down as God said then you don't know the meaning of the place you claim
I've written it down before. Go and look for it
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:23am On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Oga your fellow Trinitarians do not agree with you. Just rest.
...

You are free to rest
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:27am On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
To prove that meta ai made a mistake, show me another Trinitarian reliable source that Claim that Jesus commanded the father in John 17:5
Why should I show you another source when God said use only bible to interpret bible

First you don't know rules of the Bible that is why you are going about looking for another source outside Bible

Jesus already told us his words are spirit and they are life... Jesus told us his words carry power and authority...

So he exercised his authority and told the father what he wants the father to do to prove he is almighty God before the universe was created

And God gave him a response which you can not see in the Bible
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:28am On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
I've written it down before. Go and look for it
I can write the words of God in Bible one million times because the more I write it the more powerful things from God enters me so

Write it again if to prove you wrote it before
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:30am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
Why should I show you another source when God said use only bible to interpret bible

First you don't know rules of the Bible that is why you are going about looking for another source outside Bible

Jesus already told us his words are spirit and they are life... Jesus told us his words carry power and authority...

So he exercised his authority and told the father what he wants the father to do to prove he is almighty God before the universe was created

And God gave him a response which you can not see in the Bible
Stories....find me a reliable Trinitarian source that claim that Jesus commanded instead of making a request to the the father in John 17:5.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:30am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
I can write the words of God in Bible one million times because the more I write it the more powerful things from God enters me so

Write it again if to prove you wrote it before
Oya rest.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:31am On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Oga the meaning you listed were in Exodus 3:14. Is 'ego eimi" in Hebrew? I have been asking you for the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in the Greek septuagint but you've been running away.
I told you many times you don't need
the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in the Greek septuagint...

Yet you don't want to listen
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 10:37am On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
I told you many times you don't need
the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in the Greek septuagint...

Yet you don't want to listen
Lol...I don't need the Greek septuagint.....so people who understood Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 and also read the Greek of John 8:58 did not know that they mean the same thing?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:06pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Lol...I don't need the Greek septuagint.....so people who understood Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 and also read the Greek of John 8:58 did not know that they mean the same thing?
You should be ashamed of trying to translate Bible from another translated version when every scholar prefers to translate Bible from the original manuscript

This shows your not happy that the original says in English
I am

This is why you want to follow men that re- write bible because jesus refuses to come at the time they lied to their members

This shows you can do anything to destroy who jesus actually is.
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:12pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Oya rest.
It better you rest since you don't know bible
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:18pm On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
Love yourself Mr Trinity.

Paul talked about two different persons in that verse:

While we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13

Paul has the knowledge of two persons just as Jesus himself said we need to have for our salvation:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." John 17:3

Jesus expatiate saying his father is the only true God while he is the messenger SENT!🙂
Paul is talking about only Jesus that why he said jesus will be revealed as great God and saviour.

You can't reveal the father because the whole world already knows him as God almighty

while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.

And God the Father is not coming on the wonderful last day

It Jesus that is coming on the last day

So read the context
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:24pm On Jan 04
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni quote the verse for everyone to read stop turning it upside down!🤣

Kingsnairaland:
Paul is talking about only Jesus that why he said jesus will be revealed as great God and saviour.

You can't reveal the father because the whole world already knows him as God almighty

while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.

And God the Father is not coming on the wonderful last day

It Jesus that is coming on the last day

So read the context
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:26pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
You should be ashamed of trying to translate Bible from another translated version when every scholar prefers to translate Bible from the original manuscript

This shows your not happy that the original says in English
I am

This is why you want to follow men that re- write bible because jesus refuses to come at the time they lied to their members

This shows you can do anything to destroy who jesus actually is.
So the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 lied about who Jesus actually is?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:29pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
It better you rest since you don't know bible
Ok.

Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:40pm On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni quote the verse for everyone to read stop turning it upside down!🤣
What is Ọ̀gbẹ́ni
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:45pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
So the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 lied about who Jesus actually is?
It is you that I should ask are you saying that you are not happy with the English Exodus translation
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:45pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
What is Ọ̀gbẹ́ni
Google is your friend joo!🤣
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:47pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
It is you that I should ask are you saying that you are not happy with the English Exodus translation
So the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 lied about who Jesus actually is? Yes or no?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:47pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Ok.
the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:48pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Does the verse that you quoted say that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Jesus?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:52pm On Jan 04
MaxInDHouse:
Google is your friend joo!🤣
OK Mzee
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 12:54pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
Does the verse that you quoted say that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Jesus?
The meta picture you uploaded does it show it is better than the Bible
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Truthseeker10: 12:54pm On Jan 04
Kingsnairaland:
The meta picture you uploaded does it show it is better than the Bible
The meta ai gave trinitarian view. Are you no longer a trinitarian?
Does the verse that you quoted say that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Jesus?
Re: Can You Be Saved By Obeying God Laws Or By Believing In Jesus by Kingsnairaland(op): 2:11pm On Jan 04
Truthseeker10:
The meta ai gave trinitarian view. Are you no longer a trinitarian?
Does the verse that you quoted say that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Jesus?
It is saying many things like jesus words are spirit and spirit always commands it says the holy spirit is the one that that gives life many things loading in that verse
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