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Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by callmetade: 9:40am On Feb 06
Make I sit down for this side, learn small...

Let's have it
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by henrysam(m): 9:41am On Feb 06
Why won't men be afraid. The one you keep under your roof that is getting everything from you do misbehave. Talk less of the one that has more than you. Pls fear women
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by owobokiri(m): 9:42am On Feb 06
"Independent women" come with a lot of frustrating habits. Not all. But a reasonable quantity.
The toxicity, the arrogance, the blatant disrespect and the self-centered mentality is what a lot of "traditional men" are "scared" of.
Not their professional achievements
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by biremi(m): 9:42am On Feb 06
Hhh4444:
you have said it all...no pray make woman feed you oooo.
E be like say you talk from experience
Me self I be dbn feelam one time like that.
And e go shock you say na one of my shops she been dey manage ooo
That experience lack taste at all at all
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Pootle: 9:44am On Feb 06
nope my woman is more successful than me, we have the best relationship am not worried about her success because am enjoying it as well
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by DJperdurabo: 9:50am On Feb 06
Host78:
A whole lot of rűbbïsh you wrote there.

First off, successful women are single because they are successful.

They are single because like every woman out there, they want to "date up".

Let's imagine this, when a man is successful, he doesn't look for a girl that is "on his level" or "higher" than him to start a relationship with her.

He can go to a filling station and see a girl there and start dating her.

Ronaldo was very successful and would have gotten to date any high value actress or model from anywhere in the world.

But he at the same time is flexible enough to go to a clothing store and pick one of the sales girl there and date her.

Women lack this flexibility. No matter how successful a woman is, she still wants to date a man who is "more successful" than her.

She'll never go to the gutter to pick any kind of man, even the one that will worship the ground she walks on.

Now this severely limits her options. For a woman who has N10million in her account, she's looking for a man with almost N50-100million in liquid cash.

She's looking up and there are only such a few of such men in the dating pool. It's like saying I as a guy will only date a girl who is earning N5m per month.

There are only such few girls in this country. If I put that as my mindset, anyone wise person will know that I'm ready to be single for a long time or for life.

Now, to the second part of this equation, and this is the usual problem with these women which they don't admit to themselves: the very "more successful" men that they want don't usually want them. .

There are many successful actresses in Nigeria, but do you think someone as successful as Davido wants to date them for their success?

If I'm a man and I'm earning N10m a month on this country, why should I care what my woman is earning when I want to pick a wife?

I can comfortably take care of any woman I want. Emphasise here is on "the woman I want".

No man in history has ever listed "success" or a specific naira figure when they are looking for a wife.

To most men, all you hear is "she must be beautiful, respectful, love me, submissive, does not cheat and speak softly"

And if any man ever mentions that his wife must be hardworking, it is usually in the area of keeping his house clean.

The reason why success is never a criteria for men looking for wives is very simple: a successful woman always wants a more successful man who will still pay for everything

Take for instance, regardless of how successful these actresses are, Davido understands that "spending" in the relationship will still fall on him because he's higher than them.

So, here's a dilemma, these women are hugely successful, they have bigger appetites, they want him to impress them. What exactly does he gain in return from dating such "successful" women?

Absolutely nothing.

The success of a woman does not benefit the more successful man she wants in any meaningful way.

So why should he date her when he could find someone prettier, someone who will be more grateful for his love?

The only way a successful woman can ascertain if men are intimidated by her is her going into the village and pickin a lowlife man or an Okada man or a cab man or a salesman and changing his life.

Let her pick such a man up, brush him up and give him the world and treat him like a king just as Ronaldo or Davido is treating their "poor" spouses like they are queens.

But then this almost will never happen.

Look at someone like DJ cuppy, everyday there are men in her comment section who will marry her and treat her like a queen.

Look at tiwa savage there are men who will willingly be her 'house' husband.

But regardless of success and the money these women have, they still want a bigger fish.

Cuppy always following Anthony Joshua up and down.

Now is Anthony Joshua intimidated by DJ cuppy? Of course not.

He's just not interested because she has nothing to offer him. Not virginity, not youth, nothing.

So, single successful women are not single because men are intimidated by them. They are single because of 4 simple things:

1. They lack flexibility in that they don't want to date downward

2. The men that are higher than them, don't desire them

3. They don't really know what men want because they chase success and once they get success, they think they have higher marketplace values.

4. And so they raise their standards, meanwhile men who meet such standards, don't want them back.

And so, they are at the top, with high standards and no one to chase after them instead of them doing the chasing.

When they are supposed to chase after Okada men, pick such Okada men and turn them to "house" husbands that they can provide for, just as Ronaldo picked a salesgirl and turn her into a wife.

These successful women are still looking to be chased by men who are richer. It's a joke.
This is a seminal piece.
Real critical thinking at play here.
Bravo!
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Nobody: 9:52am On Feb 06
Hypergamy laughs at this post!

Truth be told, finding a lady who is wealthy, respectful, and loyal is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Experience has shown that very few women can support a family without seeking the sympathy of the entire community. If she pays the kids' school fees, just get ready—the whole church will hear about it via megaphone.

No man should be intimidated by a woman, but let’s be real: if she out-earns you, you are either at her mercy or you’ve already been phased out of the equation. Even the "successful" ladies the OP mentioned all married up.

I saw a tweet recently: "Manage that your broke girlfriend, because rich ladies rarely fall in love." If your wife earns more and you think it’s "our money," you better wake up and start planning your own separate budget.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Bahamas95(m): 9:54am On Feb 06
CosmoGlitch:
People ignore the fact that money amplifies character
Ya, if you see any wealthy person with good character check the person's background. Most of them came from wealthy families. They regard most things as nothing.


But you see those ones from poverty stricken families who later became rich, avoid them.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by pocohantas(f): 9:55am On Feb 06
Cc: Brastislava

Remember what we discussed the other day?

Come and read comments from same men bashing unskilled and unemployed ladies.

😂😂😂😂
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Savvy19: 9:58am On Feb 06
I don't think men are afraid of successful women. men are just avoiding trouble. men stay where they find peace.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by DJperdurabo: 9:59am On Feb 06
GRACEGLORY:
First of all, men aren't 'afraid' of successful women. And high time we understood what real success is.

Men are allergic to the 'I make my own money so I don't need to respect you' energy, the weaponized independence that excuses zero accountability or basic femininity.

How can men be afraid of successful women, Men were raised and grew up around queens who built empires and still knew how to build a home. Men celebrate capable women. What they dodge is the arrogant ones who think a fat bank account buys them a free pass to act like men with worse attitudes.

Same reason high-value women ghost insecure broke boys who can't handle her shine. It's not success scaring anybody, it's garbage character hiding behind a fat bank account..

Secure men want partners, not competitors with chips on their shoulders. If that's 'intimidating,' stay single and keep telling yourself it's the men’s fear. The mirror doesn't lie."

"Men don't fear successful women.
They fear the bitter, contemptuous divas who think success = license to treat men like doormats.
You weaponize wins and wonder why winners keep walking.
It's not intimidation,it's standards.
weaponize wins, demand worship, then wonder why real men vanish.
It's not intimidation, it's nausea.
The mirror's brutal."

No man wants character defects packaged in designers.


These are successful women below
Hear ye! Hear ye!!
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Jayboiii: 9:59am On Feb 06
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
I love successful women whose mind dey ground.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by IbileIfe: 10:00am On Feb 06
No.
My woman is the CEO of an online fashion and lifestyle store.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Successlane: 10:00am On Feb 06
A very successful man will love, pamper, and handle his woman with care, like an egg.

However, a successful woman often looks down on her man and treats him with disdain.

No man worth his salt would actively seek a successful woman, except those who want to enjoy her wealth while being willing to endure the

accompanying embarrassment.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by zuby4real10(m): 10:01am On Feb 06
Host78:
A whole lot of rűbbïsh you wrote there.

First off, successful women are single because they are successful.

They are single because like every woman out there, they want to "date up".

Let's imagine this, when a man is successful, he doesn't look for a girl that is "on his level" or "higher" than him to start a relationship with her.

He can go to a filling station and see a girl there and start dating her.

Ronaldo was very successful and would have gotten to date any high value actress or model from anywhere in the world.

But he at the same time is flexible enough to go to a clothing store and pick one of the sales girl there and date her.

Women lack this flexibility. No matter how successful a woman is, she still wants to date a man who is "more successful" than her.

She'll never go to the gutter to pick any kind of man, even the one that will worship the ground she walks on.

Now this severely limits her options. For a woman who has N10million in her account, she's looking for a man with almost N50-100million in liquid cash.

She's looking up and there are only such a few of such men in the dating pool. It's like saying I as a guy will only date a girl who is earning N5m per month.

There are only such few girls in this country. If I put that as my mindset, anyone wise person will know that I'm ready to be single for a long time or for life.

Now, to the second part of this equation, and this is the usual problem with these women which they don't admit to themselves: the very "more successful" men that they want don't usually want them. .

There are many successful actresses in Nigeria, but do you think someone as successful as Davido wants to date them for their success?

If I'm a man and I'm earning N10m a month on this country, why should I care what my woman is earning when I want to pick a wife?

I can comfortably take care of any woman I want. Emphasise here is on "the woman I want".

No man in history has ever listed "success" or a specific naira figure when they are looking for a wife.

To most men, all you hear is "she must be beautiful, respectful, love me, submissive, does not cheat and speak softly"

And if any man ever mentions that his wife must be hardworking, it is usually in the area of keeping his house clean.

The reason why success is never a criteria for men looking for wives is very simple: a successful woman always wants a more successful man who will still pay for everything

Take for instance, regardless of how successful these actresses are, Davido understands that "spending" in the relationship will still fall on him because he's higher than them.

So, here's a dilemma, these women are hugely successful, they have bigger appetites, they want him to impress them. What exactly does he gain in return from dating such "successful" women?

Absolutely nothing.

The success of a woman does not benefit the more successful man she wants in any meaningful way.

So why should he date her when he could find someone prettier, someone who will be more grateful for his love?

The only way a successful woman can ascertain if men are intimidated by her is her going into the village and pickin a lowlife man or an Okada man or a cab man or a salesman and changing his life.

Let her pick such a man up, brush him up and give him the world and treat him like a king just as Ronaldo or Davido is treating their "poor" spouses like they are queens.

But then this almost will never happen.

Look at someone like DJ cuppy, everyday there are men in her comment section who will marry her and treat her like a queen.

Look at tiwa savage there are men who will willingly be her 'house' husband.

But regardless of success and the money these women have, they still want a bigger fish.

Cuppy always following Anthony Joshua up and down.

Now is Anthony Joshua intimidated by DJ cuppy? Of course not.

He's just not interested because she has nothing to offer him. Not virginity, not youth, nothing.

So, single successful women are not single because men are intimidated by them. They are single because of 4 simple things:

1. They lack flexibility in that they don't want to date downward

2. The men that are higher than them, don't desire them

3. They don't really know what men want because they chase success and once they get success, they think they have higher marketplace values.

4. And so they raise their standards, meanwhile men who meet such standards, don't want them back.

And so, they are at the top, with high standards and no one to chase after them instead of them doing the chasing.

When they are supposed to chase after Okada men, pick such Okada men and turn them to "house" husbands that they can provide for, just as Ronaldo picked a salesgirl and turn her into a wife.

These successful women are still looking to be chased by men who are richer. It's a joke.
You have said it all. How i wish i can like this post 1000 times. There is a a question i always ask my self "what is that one advantage of dating or marrying those so called successful women?
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by kiddaz: 10:10am On Feb 06
Bahamas95:
Ya, if you see any wealthy person with good character check the person's background. Most of them came from wealthy families. They regard most things as nothing.


But you see those ones from poverty stricken families who later became rich, avoid them.
Lol this is soo correct cheesy
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by ezewealth(m): 10:11am On Feb 06
Host78:
A whole lot of rűbbïsh you wrote there.

First off, successful women are single because they are successful.

They are single because like every woman out there, they want to "date up".

Let's imagine this, when a man is successful, he doesn't look for a girl that is "on his level" or "higher" than him to start a relationship with her.

He can go to a filling station and see a girl there and start dating her.

Ronaldo was very successful and would have gotten to date any high value actress or model from anywhere in the world.

But he at the same time is flexible enough to go to a clothing store and pick one of the sales girl there and date her.

Women lack this flexibility. No matter how successful a woman is, she still wants to date a man who is "more successful" than her.

She'll never go to the gutter to pick any kind of man, even the one that will worship the ground she walks on.

Now this severely limits her options. For a woman who has N10million in her account, she's looking for a man with almost N50-100million in liquid cash.

She's looking up and there are only such a few of such men in the dating pool. It's like saying I as a guy will only date a girl who is earning N5m per month.

There are only such few girls in this country. If I put that as my mindset, anyone wise person will know that I'm ready to be single for a long time or for life.

Now, to the second part of this equation, and this is the usual problem with these women which they don't admit to themselves: the very "more successful" men that they want don't usually want them. .

There are many successful actresses in Nigeria, but do you think someone as successful as Davido wants to date them for their success?

If I'm a man and I'm earning N10m a month on this country, why should I care what my woman is earning when I want to pick a wife?

I can comfortably take care of any woman I want. Emphasise here is on "the woman I want".

No man in history has ever listed "success" or a specific naira figure when they are looking for a wife.

To most men, all you hear is "she must be beautiful, respectful, love me, submissive, does not cheat and speak softly"

And if any man ever mentions that his wife must be hardworking, it is usually in the area of keeping his house clean.

The reason why success is never a criteria for men looking for wives is very simple: a successful woman always wants a more successful man who will still pay for everything

Take for instance, regardless of how successful these actresses are, Davido understands that "spending" in the relationship will still fall on him because he's higher than them.

So, here's a dilemma, these women are hugely successful, they have bigger appetites, they want him to impress them. What exactly does he gain in return from dating such "successful" women?

Absolutely nothing.

The success of a woman does not benefit the more successful man she wants in any meaningful way.

So why should he date her when he could find someone prettier, someone who will be more grateful for his love?

The only way a successful woman can ascertain if men are intimidated by her is her going into the village and pickin a lowlife man or an Okada man or a cab man or a salesman and changing his life.

Let her pick such a man up, brush him up and give him the world and treat him like a king just as Ronaldo or Davido is treating their "poor" spouses like they are queens.

But then this almost will never happen.

Look at someone like DJ cuppy, everyday there are men in her comment section who will marry her and treat her like a queen.

Look at tiwa savage there are men who will willingly be her 'house' husband.

But regardless of success and the money these women have, they still want a bigger fish.

Cuppy always following Anthony Joshua up and down.

Now is Anthony Joshua intimidated by DJ cuppy? Of course not.

He's just not interested because she has nothing to offer him. Not virginity, not youth, nothing.

So, single successful women are not single because men are intimidated by them. They are single because of 4 simple things:

1. They lack flexibility in that they don't want to date downward

2. The men that are higher than them, don't desire them

3. They don't really know what men want because they chase success and once they get success, they think they have higher marketplace values.

4. And so they raise their standards, meanwhile men who meet such standards, don't want them back.

And so, they are at the top, with high standards and no one to chase after them instead of them doing the chasing.

When they are supposed to chase after Okada men, pick such Okada men and turn them to "house" husbands that they can provide for, just as Ronaldo picked a salesgirl and turn her into a wife.

These successful women are still looking to be chased by men who are richer. It's a joke.
Who am I to write again, u just did my job for me
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Jman06(m): 10:20am On Feb 06
Men are not afraid of the so called successful women, instead it is the 'successful' women who think that the world owes them everything for being successful, hence they reject genuine lovers and accept the jerks . When the playboys get tired of them and bounce they'll start generalising all men!
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by michoim(m): 10:43am On Feb 06
Is not a matter of being afraid. Apart from money, most of them(NOT ALL), won't have quality time with you in the long run...there ego will be always out for 'business'
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Blazebond(m): 10:59am On Feb 06
The question should be " why are so-called successful women afraid of men?",men ain't afraid of una so-called successful women at all because those women will always be women and can never think of act like men,the two genders are very opposite in reasoning and behavior so don't think that some numbers in a bank account or achievements in whatever fields the women find themselves in will automatically make them think themselves superior to Men,naaaah,the real matter is that the women who call themselves successful women only want men who are docile and submissive as partner's,but the truth is that,such men hardly exist,a man might claim to be submissive and docile in the beginning,but soon his real colors will show and that's when the infighting in that relationship of theirs will begin.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by ismodiwa(m): 11:09am On Feb 06
No man is afraid of any successful woman 👠
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Ten06(m): 11:12am On Feb 06
Why will men be afraid of successful women? The problem is that whether they are successful or not they are always troublesome. The rich ones are worse off
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by elmagnifico411(m): 11:14am On Feb 06
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
men are not scared of successful women, it is the devil that gets unleashed with the success that’s the main problem. A woman’s real character comes out when she’s successful. That’s when you’d realize that none is submissive in anyway. But then again, it’s still cool for them to be successful, cos those almajiris/urgent 2k babes are worse off.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by deebrain(m): 11:18am On Feb 06
When you say successful women, you are speaking generally. There are many great women I've had privilege of working with. God go bless them for me.

I've worked with most of the people you put their pictures on your opening thread. About half of these people are not good people. I no drag anybody.

You are probably suggesting that they are single because men no dey step up to them?
To even work with some of them, you must be ready for issues in for example, payment for your work and bad attitude - on top your money.

I don't pray for even my enemy to work with some of them.

I no drag anybody but law of karma dey.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by OvertheTop(m): 11:18am On Feb 06
EmperorIsaac:
No man wants to marry a fellow man in the true sense of the word! Besides, who their money epp? Let them feed you for a month, and you'd see that they are not designed to be providers.
Spot on...
one month is too much.

have you ever work with a Lady Boss in the office?
you go see FIRE
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by OvertheTop(m): 11:23am On Feb 06
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
But there is a popular saying:
When a Woman has Money, She needs no Man....

Do you know why ?
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Luvisdgr8test: 11:30am On Feb 06
99% of successful women don't want a man less successful than them. They only pretend to want one just to win the race against time them offload all their baggage on the poor male.
He may never survive it. But gehgeh advice is already prolonging men's life.
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by OvertheTop(m): 11:30am On Feb 06
Host78:
A whole lot of rűbbïsh you wrote there.

First off, successful women are single because they are successful.

They are single because like every woman out there, they want to "date up".

Let's imagine this, when a man is successful, he doesn't look for a girl that is "on his level" or "higher" than him to start a relationship with her.

He can go to a filling station and see a girl there and start dating her.

Ronaldo was very successful and would have gotten to date any high value actress or model from anywhere in the world.

But he at the same time is flexible enough to go to a clothing store and pick one of the sales girl there and date her.

Women lack this flexibility. No matter how successful a woman is, she still wants to date a man who is "more successful" than her.

She'll never go to the gutter to pick any kind of man, even the one that will worship the ground she walks on.

Now this severely limits her options. For a woman who has N10million in her account, she's looking for a man with almost N50-100million in liquid cash.

She's looking up and there are only such a few of such men in the dating pool. It's like saying I as a guy will only date a girl who is earning N5m per month.

There are only such few girls in this country. If I put that as my mindset, anyone wise person will know that I'm ready to be single for a long time or for life.

Now, to the second part of this equation, and this is the usual problem with these women which they don't admit to themselves: the very "more successful" men that they want don't usually want them. .

There are many successful actresses in Nigeria, but do you think someone as successful as Davido wants to date them for their success?

If I'm a man and I'm earning N10m a month on this country, why should I care what my woman is earning when I want to pick a wife?

I can comfortably take care of any woman I want. Emphasise here is on "the woman I want".

No man in history has ever listed "success" or a specific naira figure when they are looking for a wife.

To most men, all you hear is "she must be beautiful, respectful, love me, submissive, does not cheat and speak softly"

And if any man ever mentions that his wife must be hardworking, it is usually in the area of keeping his house clean.

The reason why success is never a criteria for men looking for wives is very simple: a successful woman always wants a more successful man who will still pay for everything

Take for instance, regardless of how successful these actresses are, Davido understands that "spending" in the relationship will still fall on him because he's higher than them.

So, here's a dilemma, these women are hugely successful, they have bigger appetites, they want him to impress them. What exactly does he gain in return from dating such "successful" women?

Absolutely nothing.

The success of a woman does not benefit the more successful man she wants in any meaningful way.

So why should he date her when he could find someone prettier, someone who will be more grateful for his love?

The only way a successful woman can ascertain if men are intimidated by her is her going into the village and pickin a lowlife man or an Okada man or a cab man or a salesman and changing his life.

Let her pick such a man up, brush him up and give him the world and treat him like a king just as Ronaldo or Davido is treating their "poor" spouses like they are queens.

But then this almost will never happen.

Look at someone like DJ cuppy, everyday there are men in her comment section who will marry her and treat her like a queen.

Look at tiwa savage there are men who will willingly be her 'house' husband.

But regardless of success and the money these women have, they still want a bigger fish.

Cuppy always following Anthony Joshua up and down.

Now is Anthony Joshua intimidated by DJ cuppy? Of course not.

He's just not interested because she has nothing to offer him. Not virginity, not youth, nothing.

So, single successful women are not single because men are intimidated by them. They are single because of 4 simple things:

1. They lack flexibility in that they don't want to date downward

2. The men that are higher than them, don't desire them

3. They don't really know what men want because they chase success and once they get success, they think they have higher marketplace values.

4. And so they raise their standards, meanwhile men who meet such standards, don't want them back.

And so, they are at the top, with high standards and no one to chase after them instead of them doing the chasing.

When they are supposed to chase after Okada men, pick such Okada men and turn them to "house" husbands that they can provide for, just as Ronaldo picked a salesgirl and turn her into a wife.

These successful women are still looking to be chased by men who are richer. It's a joke.
You have said it All.
100%
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Kdon2: 11:43am On Feb 06
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
Successful women are bad for the home. They become unreasonable and overtly self centered. They become less careful and detached from their reality. Success for women is not bad on its own, however there is a price to pay for everything in life.
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Idaytesj29(m): 11:51am On Feb 06
bigpicture001:
Plz can someone help me with their names... I know Genevieve, I know omotola, I know Funke Akindele,I also know Assist Oshiola and Tiwa savage, but I dnt know the rest...
Assisat Oshoala will still get married, I Believe her football career is what's delaying marriage
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Spatta: 12:19pm On Feb 06
If the pictures posted by you is your definition of successful women then you are indeed miserable. What success is far exceed these queen of central castle
Have you really men successful women?
We have them at home not feminist
Re: Are Men Afraid Of Successful Women Or We Are Avoiding The Real Conversation ? by Marc3500: 12:30pm On Feb 06
Dpsychologist:
This argument keeps trending because people keep missing the point.

Some say men are afraid of successful women.
Others say that’s rubbish and an excuse.

The truth sits uncomfortably in the middle, and that’s why nobody wants to stay there.

Let’s clear one thing first and like the tweet in the image below says: Modern men are not strangers to capable women. We were raised by working mothers, taught by female teachers, managed by female bosses, and went to school with ambitious girls. Female success is not a shock. It is normal life.

So no, success alone is not what scares most men.

But let’s not lie to ourselves either. Some men are intimidated by successful women. Not all men and not most men. But enough to make the conversation valid. If men can feel threatened by another man’s success, why should a woman’s success be magically different? Ego has no gender.

Now here is the part both sides tend to avoid talking about much.

What many men react to is not success, but what sometimes follows it. A change in attitude. Respect quietly leaving the room. Confidence crossing the line into contempt. Independence being used as an excuse to avoid accountability.

At the same time, number of women are actually exhausted. Tired of shrinking themselves. Tired of being told to be less loud, less confident, less visible. Tired of their confidence being labelled arrogance simply because it comes from a woman.

Both experiences are real.

The problem starts when people turn personal experiences into universal laws.
“All men are intimidated” is false.
“No man is intimidated” is also false.

The real issue is insecurity, poor emotional maturity, and lack of balance.

A secure man is not threatened by a woman’s growth. He is inspired by it.
A grounded woman does not use success as a weapon. She carries it with grace.

Confidence is not arrogance.
Independence is not disrespect.
Success is not superiority.

Marriage is not boxing. It is not power play. It is not a battle for who earns more or talks louder. It is partnership.

Ideal 'Equality' is not about using history as leverage. It is about shared standards today. Empowerment is not exemption from accountability. It is responsibility with power.

If your success makes someone uncomfortable, it might be their insecurity.
If your success turns you into someone difficult to live with, it might be your character.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Until we learn to talk about this honestly, without shouting “men” or “women” like war slogans, this debate will keep recycling itself.

Now, who is ready for that uncomfortable honesty?
u go dey deceive urself dey call urself psychologist with this ur mumu analysis
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