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Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:08pm On Feb 23
MaxInDHouse:
Answer the question or just accept that you are a programmed religionists.

Is it a woman that was with God in the beginning? John 1:2🤔
LOL...

On a serious note, you better change because this is not good for you as a person.

Okay, can we at least agree that the Wisdom in proverbs is a woman speaking?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m):
MetalJigsaw:
LOL...
On a serious note, you better change because this is not good for you as a person. Okay, can we at least agree that the Wisdom in proverbs is a woman speaking?
There is no reason to agree since your God differ from mine and as for the wisdom speaking in the Bible book of Proverbs of course it's a man.
It's either Solomon, Agur or Lemuel that penned it down as inspired by Jesus who is the greater Solomon! Luke 11:31
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25pm On Feb 23
Guy don chop ban as he no get control.

Just calm down and type respectfully not with aggression. If Jesus is your god then stop calling me your brother and don't think we are on the same page.

Jesus is my fellow worshiper according to himself while we all have the same father and God! John 20:17😟
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky:
MetalJigsaw:
preacher of the word of God and the word of God are two different things.

ONLY Christ is identified as the word of God, no other person.



*The preacher of Gods word is a mere human
*The word of God is of God's essence and it is eternal.
*Jesus is identified as THE word of God itself, which means he's eternal and from the same essence as the father.
* He is also THE son of man in the revelation from Daniel 7. (are you aware? let me know)

When he said him and his father are one, was he lying? No.

At your last paragraph, I already showed you the context that its a proverb where "Lady wisdom" is speaking as a person. It is even a women not a man.

Go and look it up.
Jesus is the Word of God, Rev 19:13, John 1:1.
Jesus is the Wisdom of God, 1 Corinthians 1:24

Preacher ,speaker of the word of God his Father, John 14:24.
Both expressions refer to Jesus Christ .
Your Bible said so .
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 7:14pm On Feb 23
MetalJigsaw:
Answer the question or just accept that you're a very intellectually dishonest and arrogant individual...

I ask again,

Is the Wisdom in that context a man or a woman?
MetalJigsaw:
LOL...

On a serious note, you better change because this is not good for you as a person.

Okay, can we at least agree that the Wisdom in proverbs is a woman speaking?
The Hebrew language (as well as Greek, French , German, Romanian, Spanish) assign feminine or masculine nouns or pronouns to all things.
This the nuance of the Hebrew language differing from English.
Oga, verify for yourself and confirm .
grin
In Hebrew , Wisdom is feminine (same as Greek)
Hebrews will tell you ,"I have a door in my house,she swings open."
It doesn't mean the door is a woman, likewise Proverbs 8:1-3 doesn't mean a woman is wisdom.
The point is Proverbs 8:22-30 specifically refers to the creative process of God, shedding more light on Genesis account.

@Proverbs 8:22-30, is Wisdom referenced as "she?"
Definitely not.
Rather as "I".
Your bible says the Wisdom was made,Created by God as the beginning of God's creative works & the Wisdom is the Craftsman who worked @ God's side to create other things.
The Craftsman was never referenced to any woman in your Bible.
From Verses 22-30, the pronoun is always " I" (personal pronoun ,personal reporting) not feminine pronoun ("she" or 2nd person narrative).
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 7:55pm On Feb 23
MaxInDHouse:
There is no reason to agree since your God differ from mine and as for the wisdom speaking in the Bible book of Proverbs of course it's a man.
It's either Solomon, Agur or Lemuel that penned it down as inspired by Jesus who is the greater Solomon! Luke 11:31
Hebrew word for Wisdom is feminine .
Pls just verify it & confirm.
grin
Therefore , Wisdom is a "she" (feminine pronoun at Proverbs 8:1-3, just as house door is a she in Hebrew).

For the same reason ,Advocate, Paracletos is a "he" in all bibles.
But ,to set the bible's record straight without ambiguity,these points are irrevocable;
*1) Jesus,a being ,is the Wisdom of God at God's side".
1 Corin 1:24, John 1:18, Proverbs 8:22-30.

*2)
Proverbs 8:30,Craftsman is strictly for men,in all Bible record.
" Jehovah made me as the Beginning of his creative way" in Proverbs 8:22 & Revelation 3:14 refer to Start of the creation work of our God.
Even trinitarians wrote this screenshot.
Them know too.
grin

Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:04am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Guy don chop ban as he no get control.

Just calm down and type respectfully not with aggression. If Jesus is your god then stop calling me your brother and don't think we are on the same page.
Jesus is my fellow worshiper according to himself while we all have the same father and God! John 20:17😟
Show me where Jesus is firstborn from the dead because he was created.

I want to see it.
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Show me where Jesus says he's not God or don't worship him.
Show me where Jesus said he is God or where he told people to worship him!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:14am On Feb 24
Janosky:
The Hebrew language (as well as Greek, French , German, Romanian, Spanish) assign feminine or masculine nouns or pronouns to all things.
This the nuance of the Hebrew language differing from English.
Oga, verify for yourself and confirm .
grin
In Hebrew , Wisdom is feminine (same as Greek)
Hebrews will tell you ,"I have a door in my house,she swings open."
It doesn't mean the door is a woman, likewise Proverbs 8:1-3 doesn't mean a woman is wisdom.
The point is Proverbs 8:22-30 specifically refers to the creative process of God, shedding more light on Genesis account.

@Proverbs 8:22-30, is Wisdom referenced as "she?"
Definitely not.
Rather as "I".
Your bible says the Wisdom was made,Created by God as the beginning of God's creative works & the Wisdom is the Craftsman who worked @ God's side to create other things.
The Craftsman was never referenced to any woman in your Bible.
From Verses 22-30, the pronoun is always " I" (personal pronoun ,personal reporting) not feminine pronoun ("she" or 2nd person narrative).
*Show me where Jesus was created in the Bible.
* And show me where he is said to be a woman.
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:14am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Show me where Jesus is firstborn from the dead because he was created.
I want to see it.
So you don't even know the question to ask again! 😟
Surely you are confused but since you won't welcome simple reasoning there is no need to worry yourself you can continue with your fellow worshipers my global family of peace loving worshipers are brothers and sisters of Jesus in the faith {John 20:17} he is not our God!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:16am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Show me where Jesus said he is God or where he told people to worship him!🙂
If I show you will you be honest enough to admit what is shown to face? That's the thing
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
*Show me where Jesus was created in the Bible.
* And show me where he is said to be a woman.
Guy we are Jehovah's Witnesses as you can see we know the verses of scriptures and it's interpretations better than your people but since you don't want to accept simple teaching of the Bible stick to your fellow worshipers but don't forget that you and your fellow worshipers needs to be active and dedicated preachers and teachers of God's word! Matthew 10:1-13
Enjoy your day!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
If I show you will you be honest enough to admit what is shown to face? That's the thing
Just a verse where Jesus said:

"I am God"

Or

"Worship me"

Please i don't want any explanation o just as you also requested that's exactly what i'm waiting for!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:25am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
So you don't even know the question to ask again! 😟
Surely you are confused but since you won't welcome simple reasoning there is no need to worry yourself you can continue with your fellow worshipers my global family of peace loving worshipers are brothers and sisters of Jesus in the faith {John 20:17} he is not our God!🙂
This verse destroys you Jehovah witness

Titus 2 v 11-13

"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ"

Its over for you. Antichrist!
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:28am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Just a verse where Jesus said:

"I am God"

Or

"Worship me"

Please i don't want any explanation o just as you also requested that's exactly what i'm waiting for!🙂
Can you show where he said the reverse?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Titus 2 v 11-13

"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ"

Its over for you. Antichrist!
Programmed religionist!😀

Jesus himself said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

So if you don't understand a verse ask for clarification.

while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13

Study God's word to know the context not just picking out a verse.

So you are an AntiChrist shey?

No wonder you quickly take offense instead of waiting for God to be the judge! Matthew 7:1
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:34am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Just a verse where Jesus said:

"I am God"

Or

"Worship me"

Please i don't want any explanation o just as you also requested that's exactly what i'm waiting for!🙂
You see how you dodging every question and playing games because you know I am armed with scriptures😁 that destroys Antichrist like you?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Can you show where he said the reverse?
It's clear that Jesus said it through his actions as he always pray to his God and cry to his God for help. wink
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
You see how you dodging every question and playing games because you know I am armed with scriptures😁 that destroys Antichrist like you?
Funny programmed Churchian!😀
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:37am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Guy we are Jehovah's Witnesses as you can see we know the verses of scriptures and it's interpretations better than your people but since you don't want to accept simple teaching of the Bible stick to your fellow worshipers but don't forget that you and your fellow worshipers needs to be active and dedicated preachers and teachers of God's word! Matthew 10:1-13
Enjoy your day!🙂
Since you can't give the scriptures to backup your false belief, how are you still a "Jehovah witness" huh
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:38am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Since you can't give the scriptures to backup your false belief, how are you still a "Jehovah witness" huh
You call it false nah just as Pharisees also called Jesus false but wisdom is justified by her children! Luke 7:35🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:42am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Programmed religionist!😀

Jesus himself said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

So if you don't understand a verse ask for clarification.

while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13

Study God's word to know the context not just picking out a verse.

So you are an AntiChrist shey?

No wonder you quickly take offense instead of waiting for God to be the judge! Matthew 7:1
Who is your God and savior according to the verse??🥱
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:45am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Who is your God and savior according to the verse??🥱
Jehovah is the God Jesus was crying to so that is my God but since Jesus is the price paid to redeem me he is my savior.
Do you understand now?

Hope you're not a RCCG member or pastor because that your baba G.O has taught you people how to lay curses on others:
https://www.nairaland.com/8623950/rccg-pastor-abiodun-curses-woman
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:46am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
It's clear that Jesus said it through his actions as he always pray to his God and cry to his God for help. wink
His actions like forgiving sins, accepting worahip and telling you he's the Lord of the Sabbath right?😂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
His actions like forgiving sins and claiming to be the Lord of the Sabbath right?😂
If someone is sent to pay your debt can he ask for your release instantly?
Think over it!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:50am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
If someone is sent to pay your debt can he ask for your release instantly?
Think over it!🙂
Can a creature forgive sins?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:53am On Feb 24
Janosky:
Jesus is the Word of God, Rev 19:13, John 1:1.
Jesus is the Wisdom of God, 1 Corinthians 1:24

Preacher ,speaker of the word of God his Father, John 14:24.
Both expressions refer to Jesus Christ .
Your Bible said so .[/b]
Is the wisdom of God a woman?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m):
MetalJigsaw:
Can a creature forgive sins?
When he is sent to pay for it?
YES!🙂

Imagine a Nigerian arrested in England for a debt that all his generations can't clear but then a very wealthy man in Nigeria gave the money to his servant to come and clear the debt.
Do you think such a servant can say:
"Please release him for me"🤔
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:52am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
When he is sent to pay for it?
YES!🙂

Imagine a Nigerian arrested in England for a debt that all his generations can't clear but then a very wealthy man in Nigeria gave the money to his servant to come and clear the debt.
Do you think such a servant can say:
"Please release him for me"🤔
Show me in your Bible where a creature forgives your sins.
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:57am On Feb 24
MaxInDHouse:
Programmed religionist!😀

Jesus himself said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

So if you don't understand a verse ask for clarification.

while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13

Study God's word to know the context not just picking out a verse.

So you are an AntiChrist shey?

No wonder you quickly take offense instead of waiting for God to be the judge! Matthew 7:1
Who is your our God and savior according to the verse? I'm still waiting
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16am On Feb 24
MetalJigsaw:
Show me in your Bible where a creature forgives your sins.
MetalJigsaw:
Who is your our God and savior according to the verse? I'm still waiting
Choose what you want to believe there is no need for pointless arguments! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9
Do enjoy your day!🙂
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