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Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 11:06am On Sep 27, 2012 |
Is Jesus God? The Bible is the Word of God. It tells us about the life and death — and resurrected life — of the greatest man who ever lived. His name is Jesus Christ. For centuries men have debated the identity of this unique man. Was he God? Was he a “mere” man? How did he do the things he did? |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 11:11am On Sep 27, 2012 |
Question #4: If God cannot be tempted by evil, yet Jesus was tempted in every way we are, how can he be God? |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Enigma(m): 11:21am On Sep 27, 2012 |
frosbel: 2 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 11:31am On Sep 27, 2012 |
[quote author=Enigma][/quote] What a most deceptive fellow, I really am beginning to wonder what calibre of Christians we have on this forum. This comment I posted earlier in February when I was still researching into the Trinity dogma and have now realised what a farce it is. Yet even after repeating this to you in another thread you repost it here in a bid to slander my most honourable character, This is what desperation has turned you guys into. Please this thread should not be a meeting point for my 'enemies'. [size=13pt]JESUS IS NOT JEHOVAH [/size] 4 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Enigma(m): 11:36am On Sep 27, 2012 |
Nah, it is just an attempt to make you -------------- think!!!!!! It is not a scandal to think for oneself, you know. In any event, the other point is that your own words are answering your "new" posers on this thread ------ at least to some extent. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by hadbak: 11:38am On Sep 27, 2012 |
Simple! Jesus(pbuh) isn't God buh man inspiredd by God. HIS BIRTH...God demonstrates His power to create in every way. God created everyone we knw from a man and a woman. But how about Adam,(pbuh)? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, without a woman. And finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus(pbuh) from a woman, without a man. MIRACLES...What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God's leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said: ‘I can do nothing of my own authority' (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God's authority.HIS TEACHINGS... What did Jesus teach? The Qur'an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God – that we must shun every false god and worship only the One True God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of the One True God, the God of Abraham. These Qur'anic teachings can be compared with the Bible (Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as ‘Servant of God’.. Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from God. He is honored in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to God. Jesus was a MAN who spoke the truth which he heard from God. According to John where Jesus says to the Israelites: ‘You are determined to kill me, A MAN who has told you the truth that I heard from God’ (John 8:40). Hope you fine this clear. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Enigma(m): 11:48am On Sep 27, 2012 |
@frosbel Oh, one more thing. If you were wrong when you wrote that "Jesus is God" ---- do you remember that the same way you were going about that fervently is the way you are going about your new "revelation" fervently. If you were misleading people then, what makes you think you are not misleading people now? If you were shipwrecking people's faith then , what makes you think you are not shipwrecking people's faith now? If you were teaching people pagan doctrines then, what makes you think you are not teaching people pagan doctrines now? You need to check yourself ------ above all things, I think for ignorance and pride. Two more things for you to think about and I hope you will really think! He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him. 1 Timothy 6 3 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5 and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. A word is enough for the wise. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Enigma(m): 11:54am On Sep 27, 2012 |
@ frosbel Let us go back to that 1 Timothy 6; it says If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching he is conceited . . . . Well, here is some sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and godly teaching ----- do you agree to them? Revelation 22
12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 12:02pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Enigma: @frosbel I would like to think of this forum as a classroom. We are all learning on a daily basis , and the more knowledge we acquire the more truths we learn. From a 3-god God , to a 3-function God and now to a ONE God, I think is a good achievement and is the end of my study. If you were misleading people then, what makes you think you are not misleading people now? Which is why I have done an extensive, investigative and honest research into the whole Pagan doctrine which you hold on to as an idol and found out that it is a farce , a concoction and the invention of a church that was polluted with platonic philosophy. Besides this the Trinity is not a salvation issue. You need to check yourself ------ above all things, I think for ignorance and pride. I think we should redirect this sentence back at you, maybe your pride is what stands between you and the absolute truth. Two more things for you to think about and I hope you will really think! Don't worry about me, worry about your coattail hangers-on who seem to struggle with personal study and rely on others for the interpretation of logic. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Enigma(m): 12:06pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
^^^^ I worry more about the people you are misleading. I think you should consider maybe your actions and flip-flopping every other month are shipwrecking some other people's faith. Hey, you are not accountable to me for it ----- you are accountable to God and to our Lord Jesus Christ. Think about it. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 12:10pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Enigma: ^^^^ I worry more about the people you are misleading. On the contrary, the True GOD and the true Gospel is being revealed, the more light we have , which was obviously darkened by your catholic heresies, the more knowledge we acquire and help lead others out of this bondage of false doctrine such as the Trinity, immortal soul, eternal torment and a host of other I am here to stay , trust me and many will be delivered from false teachers who parade on this forum as so called learned theologians. One advice to you, do not take away the personal responsibility of others to study the bible for themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by aletheia(m): 5:48pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
frosbel:^^ So you have "done an extensive, investigative and honest research" into the matter. Really? Why have we not seen evidence of such then. . .instead what is seen are the common sort of debating tricks. You deceive yourself for nothing in the multiplicity of threads that you generate suggests a well thought out and reasoned thesis. I remind you of this quote once again: A fanatic is a man who, when he's lost sight of his purpose, redoubles his effort. 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 9:59am On Sep 28, 2012 |
aletheia: actually the only time I have ever been called a fanatic was during my days at deeper life |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by mikeeze(m): 10:26am On Sep 28, 2012 |
I have noticed you"ve being saying a lot of heresy lately and when people correct you,you don"t want to learn.if you want to learn,you"ve to be open minded. 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:21am On Sep 28, 2012 |
mikeeze: Do you think he will ever learn? This is Paul's prophesy coming to pass: "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (2 Timothy 3:7). 2 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Image123(m): 2:48pm On Sep 28, 2012 |
frosbel:you were just called and defined as a fanatic, doesn't this guy think? 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 9:46am On Sep 29, 2012 |
Image123: Fanatics who believe in Pagan Trinity , eternal torment for trillions of souls for eternity without end, immortal soul, hell fire or heaven after death , tithes, slain in the spirit, weird manifestations, crazy prophecies , supporting the murder and masscare of tens of thousands worldwide by backing right wing zionist ideologies , and you have to Gall to call me a fanatic. You GUYS are in the same group as those who will not let anyone enter into the kingdom and will not enter in either. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by naijapatriot: 10:29am On Sep 29, 2012 |
Nice replies here....especially this quote: aletheia: Rom 10:2 readily comes to mind. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Image123(m): 12:14pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
frosbel:are you born again? if yes, was it after you left deeper life? |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 12:35pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Image123: Definitely not your kind of born again ! btw , don't change topic like the other confused fellow. Address this article. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by vedaxcool(m): 1:01pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Lol the Qur'an was right after all, see another reason why you should read the Qur'an and experience the truth. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 1:58pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
vedaxcool: Lol the Qur'an was right after all, see another reason why you should read the Qur'an and experience the truth. I guess we are talking about the same plagiarised book, no ? |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by vedaxcool(m): 2:28pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
frosbel: Lol! yet the "plagiarizing book" seems to miss out the numerous stupidities found in the book it suposedly plagiarized, no? What I will give for you to reason once in your life, atleast common sense should tell you the Qur'an can never be used in justiying the divinity of Jesus, which the ever double speaking bible does every now and then, NO? Buhaha thank Allah we have the Qur'an. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Image123(m): 4:53pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
frosbel:please answer the questions. Are you born again? if yes, was it after you left deeper or when you were there? |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by TheOP1(m): 6:15pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Frosbel, Don't you consider your recent vigorous effort at challenging widely accepted beliefs blasphemous? And when the Quran and muslims make similar observations about the gravity of such beliefs, you call it blasphemy. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 7:04pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
The OP: Frosbel, On the contrary , not blasphemous at all. The Trinity has nothing to do with the core truths of the bible, it is a pagan philosophy. The core message of the gospel is that God sent his only Son to not only act as an atonement for the sins of mankind but to taste death for all men, so that all who die henceforth in Christ will have a hope of resurrection into life. Jesus Christ also came as an exact representation of God, his likeness and mirror image, the reflection of everything that Man ought to know about the character and nature of God. Islam rejects these core truths and instead projects another so called last messenger who came to complete the work that Christ started. The blasphemy goes even further to reject the truth that Christ was crucified and therefore did not rise from the dead. If this is true then mankind has no hope whatsoever and death is the victor. Therefore Islam is anti-christ in their rejection of the messiah and is a religion opposed to the purposes and intents of God. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by flourishG(m): 7:40pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Frosbel I have never seen any man as confusing as you are in my lifetime. You sourced and referenced articles in the past right on this same forum to justify the deity of Christ as God. Today, you come up with another lifeless article to the body of Christ fighting the deity of Christ. You are a confused Christian (If at all you are one). Back to the opening question, IS JESUS GOD THE SIMPLE BIBLE ANSWER IS YES!. If you like keep fighting a defeated battle. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Nobody: 7:47pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
flourishG: Frosbel Jesus Christ is not GOD. I have recently learnt this truth. Food for thought ; 19 So Jesus explained, “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the Father doing. Whatever the Father does, the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he is doing. In fact, the Father will show him how to do even greater works than healing this man. Then you will truly be astonished. 21 For just as the Father gives life to those he raises from the dead, so the Son gives life to anyone he wants. 22 In addition, the Father judges no one. Instead, he has given the Son absolute authority to judge - John 5:19-22 Read your bible, remember the way to life is narrow, just because you are in the majority does not mean you are right. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Image123(m): 10:48pm On Sep 29, 2012 |
Image123:in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was Jesus, and the Word was God. go and sit down frosb. |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by plappville(f): 1:21am On Sep 30, 2012 |
flourishG: Frosbel Wrong !! He has known the truth, and this truth shall set him Free (so say the bible) it is best to Come out of the false doctrine as said in Revelation (come out from the Mother Halot) Whats the use of the scripture if not to correct past errors? 2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Pretend as if you know not about How emperior Constantine invented the socalled Trinity dogma. Keeping a blind eyes on hundreds of verses and holding and twisting 2 or 4 verse to suit ur aim. God is one, trinity is false. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by plappville(f): 1:27am On Sep 30, 2012 |
Image123: Jesus was the word. He brought the word of God to us. God was revealed through Jesus. God was not "Born" Like the Catholic will say, "Mary is the Mother of God" If you Say Jesus is God, then you wear same shoe as them. You are Saying that God was born by a woman. Watch it out !! 3 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus God? – Logical Questions That Need Answers by Image123(m): 5:29pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
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