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Re: Is Jesus God? by Truthseeker10: 1:12pm On Mar 13
MetalJigsaw:
You should have understood that I meant the WORD itself is a title. And it has different meanings depending on the context its being used in.

However, identifying God Almighty requires a capital "G" while other contexts are addressed using the small letter "g".

At this point If you still don't get it, I can't help you bro. I've done my bit.
What else do you want me to understand after telling me that Capital G for God is just a title that is Even used by false gods.

I have been asking you the difference in meaning between "god" and "God" in Greek. Up till now no difference.

So why do you think that using capital letter G for Jesus automatically makes him the Almighty God?

Or are you saying that anywhere I see Capital Letter "God" in the bible, then that is the Almighty God?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:57pm On Mar 14
Truthseeker10:
What else do you want me to understand after telling me that Capital G for God is just a title that is Even used by false gods.

I have been asking you the difference in meaning between "god" and "God" in Greek. Up till now no difference.

So why do you think that using capital letter G for Jesus automatically makes him the Almighty God?

Or are you saying that anywhere I see Capital Letter "God" in the bible, then that is the Almighty God?
Yes, capital letter G is only used for Yahweh, even in the Bible. That's another indication that Jesus is Yahweh / God.

You can go and look it up.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Truthseeker10: 5:27pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
Yes, capital letter G is only used for Yahweh, even in the Bible. That's another indication that Jesus is Yahweh / God.

You can go and look it up.
Who is the God that is reffered to in Philippians 3:19 with capital letter G below in the screenshot?

Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m):
Truthseeker10:
Who is the God that is reffered to in Philippians 3:19 with capital letter G below in the screenshot?
Did you read the context? And moreover, other versions actually used "god".

No god is being referred to, but almighty God is mentioned in the context, and that's clearly why capital G is used in that version.

"Their God is their belly and desires" is a kind of metaphorical statement where Paul describes people who end up with a life driven by self-gratification, sensual pleasure, and greedy appetites, rather than serving God.

In other words, Paul isn't saying their belly is actually a god in any way. He's saying they're pleasing their worldly and carnal desires in place of actually pleasing God.

That's the context.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Truthseeker10: 7:28pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
Did you read the context? And moreover, other versions actually used "god".

No god is being referred to, but almighty God is mentioned in the context, and that's clearly why capital G is used in that version.

"Their God is their belly and desires" is a kind of metaphorical statement where Paul describes people who end up with a life driven by self-gratification, sensual pleasure, and greedy appetites, rather than serving God.

In other words, Paul isn't saying their belly is actually a god in any way. He's saying they're pleasing their worldly and carnal desires in place of actually pleasing God.

That's the context.
Look at this man🤣. So Almighty God is the one that is is being reffered to as "god" in other versions?

So Almighty God is now "god" in the New King James Version of the bible? Wonderful 🤣🤣🤣

Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 8:39pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
Angels are God's sons and Jesus is one of them that is what the Bible teaches consistently!
Yes . Very true.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 8:44pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
In other words, no answer.
There is nowhere in the Bible that states that, correct? You're just adding your own monologue.

If we claim to be a Christian We need to be as honest as we can when it comes to God's word. The truth should always come first.

Jesus is our great God!. Titus 2:13
Oga,the older English bible translations did not make that false claims you are assuming.
See the evidence listed here.
These Bibles are older than the KJV .
cheesy

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God, and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Early Modern
Geneva Bible of 1587
Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glorie of that mightie God, and of our Sauiour Iesus Christ,

Bishops' Bible of 1568
Lokyng for that blessed hope and appearyng of the glorie of the great God, and our sauiour Iesus Christe,

Coverdale Bible of 1535
lokynge for that blessed hope and appearynge of the glory of ye greate God and of oure Sauioure Iesu Christ:

Tyndale Bible of 1526
lokinge for that blessed hope and glorious apperenge of ye myghty god and of oure savioure Iesu Christ."

Other bible versions (including the Catholic bible versions (core trinitarians,do not support your claim.)


Smith's Literal Translation
Expecting the blessed hope, and appearance of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,

Catholic Public Domain Version
looking forward to the blessed hope and the advent of the glory of the great God and of our Savior Jesus Christ.

New American Bible
as we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ,

New Revised Standard Version
while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:49pm On Mar 14
Janosky:
Yes . Very true.
Whether he likes it or not!🙂
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 9:09pm On Mar 14
MetalJigsaw:
In the same passage, Jesus said he's the Lord of David who is the ancestor of the scibes questioning him.

How Can David Call His Descendant Lord?

#35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David?

#36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’

#37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

Jesus is God along with the Father John 17 v 5

John 17:5 reads: "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.


This verse marks the end of Jesus' earthly ministry, as He prays for the restoration of His pre-incarnate, eternal glory and divine fellowship with the Father.


Key Details About John 17:5:
Context: This is part of Jesus' "High Priestly Prayer" in the Upper Room Discourse, just before His crucifixion.

Significance: It highlights Christ's divinity, pre-existence, and the Trinity, as He existed before creation.

Jesus is obviously not asking for new glory, but rather the full
The glory in John 17:5,7 is shared by the disciple, God and Jesus at John 17:22.
Jesus said "I have given them (disciples) the glory you have given me " (in John 17:5,7).
Oga, your claim is not true.
According to John 17:22,Jesus , the disciples and God are one" sharing the same glory.
Or
Do you have more knowledge than Jesus Christ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:12pm On Mar 14
Truthseeker10:
Look at this man🤣. So Almighty God is the one that is is being reffered to as "god" in other versions?

So Almighty God is now "god" in the New King James Version of the bible? Wonderful 🤣🤣🤣
What is your point though?

But I hope you see that the context isn't addressing any god.
Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:43pm On Mar 14
Janosky:
Oga,the older English bible translations did not make that false claims you are assuming.
See the evidence listed here.
These Bibles are older than the KJV .
cheesy

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God, and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Early Modern
Geneva Bible of 1587
Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glorie of that mightie God, and of our Sauiour Iesus Christ,

Bishops' Bible of 1568
Lokyng for that blessed hope and appearyng of the glorie of the great God, and our sauiour Iesus Christe,

Coverdale Bible of 1535
lokynge for that blessed hope and appearynge of the glory of ye greate God and of oure Sauioure Iesu Christ:

Tyndale Bible of 1526
lokinge for that blessed hope and glorious apperenge of ye myghty god and of oure savioure Iesu Christ."

Other bible versions (including the Catholic bible versions (core trinitarians,do not support your claim.)


Smith's Literal Translation
Expecting the blessed hope, and appearance of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,

Catholic Public Domain Version
looking forward to the blessed hope and the advent of the glory of the great God and of our Savior Jesus Christ.

New American Bible
as we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ,

New Revised Standard Version
while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ
Keep lieing to suit your master.

Who is your savior .again??
Re: Is Jesus God? by Truthseeker10:
MetalJigsaw:
What is your point though?

But I hope you see that the context isn't addressing any god.
Cunning man. You have suddenly forgotten the point after you claimed that Almighty God was mentioned in the context that was why capital G was used. Meaning according to you, the New King James Version uses small letter "g" for Almighty God.

Your explanation is actually crap by virtue of the screenshot below. You need to read and be humble to learn.

Re: Is Jesus God? by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:51am On Mar 15
Jesus is Lord!

*The supremacy of Christ

‭Colossians 1:15-17 NIV‬

[15] The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

[16] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

[17] He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Truthseeker10: 8:41am On Mar 15
MetalJigsaw:
Jesus is Lord!

*The supremacy of Christ

‭Colossians 1:15-17 NIV‬

[15] The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

[16] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

[17] He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Funny man.....you claim Christ is supreme....but you also claimed that the father has more Authorities than him. You need help oo.
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