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Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 2:31pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
That is exactly what changed because the law that states blood must be poured out is no longer binding on Christians.
So since it's still my own blood i can use it for my own treatment.
Since when did you realize that the law is no longer binding on Christians??

This was the same message we preach every day that the law no longer binding today, and you guys have been calling us names for it! So, why is it now you realize the law no longer hold waters and you are free to use your own Bible conscious mind to decide if you would take it or not?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 2:33pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK Sir.
I will prefer the experience of my own Creator who knows every damn thing about the components that makes up each person's blood than the less than a century experience of humans who knows practically nothing when compared to the experience of my Maker! 🙂
We have the 10 commandments in the Bible that basically says what is not acceptable. Can you show in the Bible where blood was given to someone medically?

At least, that will be used as a case study for why it was written that the procedure is wrong and should not be done.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 2:33pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK Sir.
I will prefer the experience of my own Creator who knows every damn thing about the components that makes up each person's blood than the less than a decade experience of humans who knows practically nothing when compared to the experience of my Maker! 🙂
The book your creator gave you is not a science textbook on blood transfusion. Your creator don't need to come down and tell you that.

That your creator gave humans brains and abilities to find the knowledge about the universe of which blood transfusion is part of and all sorts of bloodless medical procedures out there.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 2:36pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Somebody carry himself to the hospital and told the doctor
"I don't want to be treated with blood"

That makes the person a mumu shey?

Funny people!🙂
Yes the person is mumu, because that's what he was told to say or rather that was what he was made to believe!

He or she is just following the doctrine he or she was born into.. some makes those decisions base on what my fellow congregation will say when they found out what I have done!.

See, there is a great difference from what I personally believed in and what I was made to believe.

I rest my case
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 2:37pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Since when did you realize that the law is no longer binding on Christians??

This was the same message we preach every day that the law no longer binding today, and you guys have been calling us names for it! So, why is it now you realize the law no longer hold waters and you are free to use your own Bible conscious mind to decide if you would take it or not?
When you read his post and his penchant to go back and for on issues we all know he is lying and manipulating, you will just be laughing. cheesy grin grin


So moasic law on pouring the blood on the ground no longer applicable. Woooooow, that's new to my eyes hear on nairaland.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 2:40pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Yes the person is mumu, because that's what he was told to say or rather that was what he was made to believe!

He or she is just following the doctrine he or she was born into.. some makes those decisions base on what my fellow congregation will say when they found out what I have done!.

See, there is a great difference from what I personally believed in and what I was made to believe.

I rest my case
That publication you referenced yesterday, I think I need to screenshot that aspect. In the nearest future they will change whatever was written there based on the latest development about members being free to store and accept their own blood after being stored cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 2:44pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
When you read his post and his penchant to go back and for on issues we all know he is lying and manipulating, you will just be laughing. cheesy grin grin


So moasic law on pouring the blood on the ground no longer applicable. Woooooow, that's new to my eyes hear on nairaland.
I swear... all of a sudden now is no longer applicable! Like just like that ?? This people funny sha.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 2:46pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
That publication you referenced yesterday, I think I need to screenshot that aspect. In the nearest future they will change whatever was written there based on the latest development about members being free to store and accept their own blood after being stored cheesy grin cheesy grin
Store their blood where??
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 2:46pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
That publication you referenced yesterday, I think I need to screenshot that aspect. In the nearest future they will change whatever was written there based on the latest development about members being free to store and accept their own blood after being stored cheesy grin cheesy grin
Na their way na grin grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 2:47pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Store their blood where??
Inside gallon grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 2:50pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Inside gallon grin
Dont be wicked…. grin
Its a serious issue….
These cult just like to play card with the lives of their members… they just create bunch if rules to make themselves appear different from others …
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 2:53pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Store their blood where??
I don't know for them ooo. I know Nigeria too get blood bank but I don't know if the systems are well developed, maybe Jehovah's witnesses want to venture into bloodbank business. I don't know.

The latest development from their Governing Body is that members are now free to store their blood for future use which is practically against what they teach in their Bible study publication cited by Eldeedon yesterday.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 2:56pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Dont be wicked…. grin
Its a serious issue….
These cult just like to play card with the lives of their members… they just create bunch if rules to make themselves appear different from others …
Their religious leaders dem dem be Agba Pharisees. They can create rules on top anything just to make members believe they are the only channel God is using to dispense truth like ATM in the last days cheesy grin grin grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey: 3:03pm On Mar 22
From their bible study publication


What about the medical use of blood? Some procedures clearly violate God’s law. These include the transfusion of whole blood or any of its main components​—red cells, white cells, platelets, and plasma.
The question becomes what scripture is there to support the quoted and bold part above?

Answer none, zero scriptures because the bible never ever talked about transfusion of whole blood or transfusion of different components of blood.


Other medical procedures may not be a clear-cut violation of God’s law. For example, some procedures involve the use of fractions of one of the main components of blood.
Again where is the scripture to back this up? Zero scripture, none available.


Other procedures involve the use of a person’s own blood. When weighing these options, each of us must make a personal decision.
Yet again no biblical scripture.

It boils down to what Pharisees do, make rules and regulations upon what God never did and ascribe to God.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by angelboy01(m): 3:11pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
I don't understand you.

Are we talking of condemning medical treatment or medical approach?

Guy if JWs don't go to hospitals you won't hear of this issue at all.

So please get things straight before commenting.
God will see us through bro. Just continue praying and you will see the wonders of God.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Arostar2023: 3:22pm On Mar 22
Man made doctrines will always fail. This was you guys some years ago...https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2000767

Soon, una go flip on some other doctrines too. Na person wey no know una de take una serious.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why you should be convinced that you are worshiping with the one and only true church of Christ!🙂
b
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 3:25pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
Jesus is not asking for total blind control, submission and obedience to him like your GODS of men housed in USA.
How can someone Interprete that verse as total control and submission without questioning? undecided

You've posted verses where Jesus was questioned and he never reprimanded them

Yet still trying to box you again?

I even posted where Thomas questioned Jesus, yet Thomas is among his apostle who denied himself and followed Jesus.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by DMCA: 3:37pm On Mar 22
OneCandleAway:
Very soon they'll change it to you can collect blood only from born witness or how do they call it lol.

It's a gradually change. I believe one of Those 11 men in US that control the witness destiny worldwide must have suffered a painful loss of loved one due to this blood issue and decided to change the doctrine.

I once knew a friend who couldn't marry the girl he loved because she wasn't a witness, even when she said she can convert, seems his family wanted him to marry a born witness.
Make that girl praise God.
she no know wetin God do for her cool
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by chimex38(op): 3:38pm On Mar 22
maasoap:
What is the adjustment because it wasn't explained, only mention blood transfusion? Are we supposed to use our imagination?
Thanks to @Eldeedon
The first paragraph of this document shows clearly there "an adjustment" from previously held notion to what you just read.

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by achorladey:
chimex38:
How can someone Interprete that verse as total control and submission without questioning? undecided

You've posted verses where Jesus was questioned and he never reprimanded them

Yet still trying to box you again?

I even posted where Thomas questioned Jesus, yet Thomas is among his apostle who denied himself and followed Jesus.
Max is looking for who to hold in contempt and beat his chest that they are lying about Jesus and the bible. cheesy grin grin

Even his religious publications knows that account is not about total, blind submission and control to Jesus. That's the extent Max will go to drag others into his lying and manipulating ways on Nairaland.


After answering his question earlier, he is looking for every means to trap me in his terrible practice of lying and manipulations by asking a question I answered already.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by 2mch(m): 4:39pm On Mar 22
It’s today I realize a lot of these people who belong to these strange churches either can’t read, so the pastor reads and interprets rubbish for them either based on his IQ or his bad intentions. This group are the biggest victims of such doctrine. My pastor said group is how the church survive financially, by faith and by blood. Na only them believe.

Then there is the group that are aspiring pastors or leaders of the cult who are already being trained in lies, so, to them they willfully confuse and cherry pick passages hoping you are impressed by their knowledge. But they never want to understand the whole passage, they are just taught to pull hot points and use it to justify anything. Even murder.

Then there are those who desperately want to belong to any group. They know a practice is wrong and are intelligent enough to see through the deception, but they keep silent so they can continue to belong. Such people do get the blood transfusion but are the greatest supporter of Pastor and church doctrine.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Mar 22
Don't change the subject nah.

Who told you that treatment involving blood transfusion is 100% safe?🙂
advanceDNA:
. no need to be desperate to prove a point by dropping propaganda statement.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Emusan(m): 4:47pm On Mar 22
achorladey:
It's more embarrassing now to respond than years back. They thought their GODS of men housed in USA have figured it all out. They thought there were doctrines that were off limit. Here we are, there illusion shattered.
This particular 'New Light' will do a deadly blow to that organization in few months to come more than their failed 1914 prophecy, then they'll realize it's actually New Darkness.

The news is almost on all social media and see people's comment under it, forget what the fake elder and Janosky are saying here.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
You guys have been calling us names for it!
Are you here for a revenge or facts involving the faith of JWs?🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
We have the 10 commandments in the Bible that basically says what is not acceptable.
You people just want to argue yet you don't know your Bible.

There is well over 600 laws given to the Israelites God wrote 10 in tablets to show the Israelites that it's not just what Moses fabricated.
So ask your pastors where they got the law of tithe perhaps it's among the ten commandments!🤔
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52pm On Mar 22
OK Sir!🤣

Eldeedon:
Yes the person is mumu, because that's what he was told to say or rather that was what he was made to believe!
He or she is just following the doctrine he or she was born into.. some makes those decisions base on what my fellow congregation will say when they found out what I have done!.
See, there is a great difference from what I personally believed in and what I was made to believe.
I rest my case
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tctrills: 4:54pm On Mar 22
Emusan:
Where you people are getting it wrong is making God a liar with man made rules.

For instance, when Kumuyi claimed TV is a devil's tools I don't think he attributed it or God or something Bible rejected.

Watchtower on the other hands always making God a liar.

Pre-2026 rejection of Blood Transfusion has been hung upon WHAT GOD REJECT THROUGH BIBLE or simply put God's law rejected Blood Transfusion.

So, if God rejected Blood Transfusion with various scripture used to support it, does that mean those scripture suddenly vanished or rewriting by God?

Even looking at the broadcast of this new light, it was said "After much PRAYER and study of the scripture...."

Tell me, is this how God works through the history?
I can still give them the grace, they wouldn't be the first religion to make a mistake but my anger is that this mistake has cost thousands of lives. It was very reckless and no one will ever be held responsible.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:54pm On Mar 22
angelboy01:
God will see us through bro. Just continue praying and you will see the wonders of God.
I'm not your bro o i'm just a neighbor to you i know my own brothers!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:55pm On Mar 22
OK Sir!🤣
Arostar2023:
Man made doctrines will always fail. This was you guys some years ago...https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2000767

Soon, una go flip on some other doctrines too. Na person wey no know una de take una serious.

b
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 4:56pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Don't change the subject nah.

Who told you that treatment involving blood transfusion is 100% safe?🙂
Who told you traveling by bus is 100% safe? Does that mean because its not 100% safe you will not travel by bus again?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 4:58pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Are you here for a revenge or facts involving the faith of JWs?🙂
Revenge ke! Lol... I'm only stating the obvious.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:02pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Who told you traveling by bus is 100% safe? Does that mean because its not 100% safe you will not travel by bus again?
Eldeedon:
Revenge ke! Lol... I'm only stating the obvious.
Eldeedon:
I rest my case
I thought you have REST YOUR CASE O!😟
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