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PulaPower:
Stop mentioning Pa Awolowo in this kind of contest, ion care about Azikwe..

Pa Awolowo never chased shadows jumping from one party to another like your Obi is doing today..

Pa Awo was never desperate in his entire life to become a president. He never begged any body to step down and support him… This because it was the then people of the old western region that wanted Pa Awo..

Pa Awo has always been more of a regionalism and a secessionist person. He never believed in federalism… Till today, his believe is still valid cuz federalism is not working at all for Nigeria!

Only regionalism can work !

Ignorance on full display. Awo wanted to become PM. He was Minister under Gowon and ran for Presidency twice.
The fact you don't know how the elections of the 70s and 80s went shows you know nothing. You want to defend Awo when you don't know in what context I'm referring to both men. Your own is tribalism

A very confused man he has lost already see as kwakaso play out of ADC

Lordhanzo:
It was atiku hope to trap obi inside adc. Just like he trapped Wike and rendered him mad 😂

Obi repeatedly said there should be direct primary. Atiku did not have the numbers for that. He ran to Ibadan to recruit makinde, insisting on selection.

Why is atiku running away from direct primaries ? He owns adc ? Did Buhari build apc ? Did obj build pdp ? Atiku is not statesman. His last outing will end in disgrace

For all the Apc sycophants talking about obi. You do this out of frustration. Obi will run. !!!!!

You are just here attacking Atiku, Obj, and others, even the late Buhari you didn't spare. How's Obi's decision to leave the ADC in furtherance of his political aspirations the concerns of all those you mentioned there? Is it now their responsibilities to make decisions for him or tell him what and how to plan himself?

Obi went to join a party he was clearly told before joining that zoning was not on the table, yet he chose to join and now complaining that they refused to zone. No be juju be that? You join a party only to tell them the kind of primaries you want! What exactly is your value that you now have to start dictating to them what you want? What value have you even brought to the table?

It's a party and joining or leaving is within your rights as guaranteed in the Nigerian Constitution.

There's nothing as basic as paying your dues and building people as you move up the ladder of politics.

Paying your dues is the support you give several other politicians in ensuring their victory at the polls while building people is putting people in position and ensuring their growth and while prospering on your wings as you maintain the leadership while your reign in political position lasts.

Failure to do any of these will result in you standing alone in the cold when you need viable support and when it matters most. The organic support you gain from the masses is merely sympathetic and as such, can not get you where you want politically.

So, I suggest that he sits back, reflect and do a self-audit, to see if he actually stands a chance or not before proceeding. Except, of course, he just enjoys the cheering by his obidients or just want to remain in the limelight.

reddingtonblack:
one can be really sure with Politicians, However i think Kwankwaso is in that place of understanding is biggiest chance to Aso rock is as Vice and 2027 is one more term for the south
The only Person that is blind & selfish is Atiku ... peter have seen Atiku is the same old Atiku, and he knows he can't out spend Atiku

Its just on unfortunate Atiku never learns, they wil split the vote again nd give Tinubu another win

actually kwankwaso is going for primary

As it is now he knows opposition is already in split mode with atiku gunning

So rather than take obi risk he would split it again and allow tinubu 4 years

Then he has eliminated both tinubu obi and atiku with one stone in 2031

He has a plan going to ndc but obi that is blind is still following him there, so what happens when deadline meets obi there without option

Kwankwaso has so many options, tinubu can still cut deal with him there for 2031 support to pin obi there

helinues:
Chai. It's confirmed, Peter Obi has been working for president Tinubu secretly for quite some time

The thread below is as far back as 2025. As long as Obi and Atiku won't be in the same party, the thread below is justified

https://www.nairaland.com/8368644/peter-obi-might-join-apc

It is a crime for Atiku to step down for him and allow the south finish their term

fergie001:
Regrettably, like I did in May 2022

I congratulate President Bola Tinubu on his re-election as President of World's most populous black nation.

We will continue to put you on your toes and ensure that democracy will not die. Whilst I congratulate you, I believe that you have sunk this country far low, hopefully you have time to write your name in the history books, I wish you well.

Thiefnibuu will not win. You wan bet. Even Atiku won't get more than 2m votes again. He's a desperate thief.

[quote author=reddingtonblack post=139290790][/quote]And only a limited mind doesn't understand the fact that building men is one of the signs of a great leader
Only a limited mind will respect the opinion of others, criticize them and not throw insults
And only a limited mind with little understanding will not understand that a vote for obi is a vote for Tinubu as long as Tinubu, Atiku and Obi are on the ballot.
I love the simplicity of Obi's life. But you guys make him look like the messiah. I'm sorry to say, he is not

He's free to run nobody is holding him, but he'll always come a distant Third.

Lordhanzo:
It was atiku hope to trap obi inside adc. Just like he trapped Wike and rendered him mad 😂

Obi repeatedly said there should be direct primary. Atiku did not have the numbers for that. He ran to Ibadan to recruit makinde, insisting on selection.

Why is atiku running away from direct primaries ? He owns adc ? Did Buhari build apc ? Did obj build pdp ? Atiku is not statesman. His last outing will end in disgrace

For all the Apc sycophants talking about obi. You do this out of frustration. Obi will run. !!!!!

geoworldedu:
Politicians are like fishes. They love to swim out of problems to a more convenient place. If na you nko, what will you do?

Whatsoever it is, sha no vote for Tinubu in the upcoming election. It is better to replace your bad electronic gadget with a fairly used rather than leaving the bad, non functional gadget still on your desk because you don't have money to get a new one

Look around, there are many fairly used tested and non tested gadgets we can try out, rather than leaving a damaged one there forever.

VOTE OUT APC, VOTE OUT TINUBU, LET'S TRY A FAIRLY USED ONE.

Your assertion is not relevant in this case. Obi is simply not a leader, never exhibit a single leadership qualities. I blamed OBJ that has been projecting him since the time of Yar'Adua vice ( not working) to Atiku vice and in 2023 as labour presidential candidate and now trying to pair him with Kwankwaso.
Maybe it's true they are related, they know the truth.

No quality. He is decamping again? Why going to ADC before? Meaning if Obi accidentally become president and national assembly show him shege or NLC strike or protest against insecurity or against his government , he will just run go UK and never come back. Small boy!

phemray:
Your assertion is not relevant in this case. Obi is simply not a leader, never exhibit a single leadership qualities. I blamed OBJ that has been projecting him since the time of Yar'Adua vice ( not working) to Atiku vice and in 2023 as labour presidential candidate and now trying to pair him with Kwankwaso.
Maybe it's true they are related, they know the truth.

No quality. He is decamping again? Why going to ADC before? Meaning if Obi accidentally become president and national assembly show him she or NLC strike or protest against insecurity or against his government , he will just run go UK and never come back. Small boy!

I didn't mention Obi in my writeup, so why did you make everything to counter me about Obi? Sowore is there, Kwankwaso is there, why is it Obi you are mentioning? All I said was, Don't vote Tinubu again. He is a damaged dead gadget, datsall. You can vote anybody else.

geoworldedu:
I didn't mention Obi in my writeup, so why did you make everything to counter me about Obi? Sowore is there, Kwankwaso is there, why is it Obi you are mentioning? All I said was, Don't vote Tinubu again. He is a damaged dead gadget, datsall. You can vote anybody else.

Yes u didn't, but the Topic is for Obi defection reason for my points. Yes, Sowore and Kwankwaso is there true but I find it difficult to support anyone with no capacity to take harder and needed decisions. All of them have history.

helinues:
Chai. It's confirmed, Peter Obi has been working for president Tinubu secretly for quite some time

The thread below is as far back as 2025. As long as Obi and Atiku won't be in the same party, the thread below is justified

https://www.nairaland.com/8368644/peter-obi-might-join-apc

This should make you happy but you are crying. Why?

Attention @ Seun Nlfpmod Mynd44

I created a thread on politics section but got removed/deleted without stating wether it violated any rule.

Why is this happening?

the best decision for Obi but he dump Datti big time
the best decision for Obi but he dump Datti big time
the best decision for Obi but he dump Datti big time

Yemmysworld91:
And only a limited mind doesn't understand the fact that building men is one of the signs of a great leader
Only a limited mind will respect the opinion of others, criticize them and not throw insults
And only a limited mind with little understanding will not understand that a vote for obi is a vote for Tinubu as long as Tinubu, Atiku and Obi are on the ballot.
I love the simplicity of Obi's life. But you guys make him look like the messiah. I'm sorry to say, he is not

Na english i write o ! I didnt dispute leaders build men But that doesnt we dont have other qualities that suffices

Mandela is one great leader bigger and better than most leader of our time sef ... Mandela didnt build men or do Baba sopeé that as enchanted you

Mandela lived by example, he was a role model even when South africa was handed to him he did one .. He didnt behave like agbero shouting emilokan , he didnt say i am a stubborn politician i wont leave power

Another classic example is Obama, did obama build men ?? Its myopic for Tinubu supporters to roundup leadership to Tinubu politics

Not every leader will build But ALL leaders must have capital investment in humans .. Peter obi donations and penchant for education is human investment

Peter obi followership is organic 99%, so you can't write him off

In the books, It's said that Nigeria isn't deploying A 'One Party System '

But sadly, In reality Nigeria has only one functioning Political party, The APC.

Tinubu really did his assignment properly before declaring the Nigerian seat as his Personal belonging.. He is the Chief executor of Mischief, Man has successfully planted his moles in on the Political parties ...

At this point, Only God can save us from the hands of the APC men.

reddingtonblack:
Na english i write o ! I didnt dispute leaders build men But that doesnt we dont have other qualities that suffices

Mandela is one great leader bigger and better than most leader of our time sef ... Mandela didnt build men or do Baba sopeé that as enchanted you

Mandela lived by example, he was a role model even when South africa was handed to him he did one .. He didnt behave like agbero shouting emilokan , he didnt say i am a stubborn politician i wont leave power

Another classic example is Obama, did obama build men ?? Its myopic for Tinubu supporters to roundup leadership to Tinubu politics

Not every leader will build But ALL leaders must have capital investment in humans .. Peter obi donations and penchant for education is human investment

Peter obi followership is organic 99%, so you can't write him off

Baba, Mandela boys ruled south Africa after him. Mandela groomed Mbeki. Though he wasn't involved in South Africa politics that much after his presidency
Even the present is one of them.

You are focusing too much on this mentorship thing.

I repeat, Obi on the ballot is a victory for Tinubu. You guys are emotionally blind to that fact. He isn't even grounded in the core north.
Only God can stop Tinubu's second term if we have a three or four man race.

Una carry this Obi for head. Nothing special about him. Absolutely nothing!

Jo

Legitiscool:
actually kwankwaso is going for primary

As it is now he knows opposition is already in split mode with atiku gunning

So rather than take obi risk he would split it again and allow tinubu 4 years

Then he has eliminated both tinubu obi and atiku with one stone in 2031

He has a plan going to ndc but obi that is blind is still following him there, so what happens when deadline meets obi there without option

Kwankwaso has so many options, tinubu can still cut deal with him there for 2031 support to pin obi there

your thoughts sounds like off point to me, it doesnt resonate with reality

1st, we have seen more collaboration between Peter & kwankwaso than any other candidates, thats alone depicts mutual understanding
Politicians are like weather things can change but the rhetoric question is if between Peter obi and kwankwaso nobody one step down then its unreasonable for both to defect into one party again, makes no sense

If there is no mutual agreement, leaving ADC both will defect into different party that is only what makes sense

tishbite41:
We have one VP and 36 governors. So, who's more important?
The Atiku I know won't leave a big thing for a small stuff. OBJ promoted him to compensate Shehu Yar'Adua's PDM clique.

We all know how he humiliated OBJ.
It is common knowledge that OBJ knelt down to beg Atiku for a second term.

We all know what happened in PDP circa 2018 to 2023. So, your tales by moonlight doesn't make sense.

I don't want to talk about what he did to Goodluck Jonathan

Even the third term agenda war wasn't out of a pure heart. He wanted to be President then.

Thank you my brother, he fought obj third term because he belief he's the next in line to be president and he deputize obj because he knew after obj it will be the turn of the North

J

Yemmysworld91:
Baba, Mandela boys ruled south Africa after him. Mandela groomed Mbeki. Though he wasn't involved in South Africa politics that much after his presidency
Even the present is one of them.

You are focusing too much on this mentorship thing.

I repeat, Obi on the ballot is a victory for Tinubu. You guys are emotionally blind to that fact. He isn't even grounded in the core north.
Only God can stop Tinubu's second term if we have a three or four man race.

Una carry this Obi for head. Nothing special about him. Absolutely nothing!

Oga ma gbe mi ni handicap, mandela no get boiz mandela get dignity mandela did not play baba sope politics in south africa

He did one term nd left, despite his people pleaded he do more ... He didnt play do or die politics in SA so he no get agberos

See dont just argue for argue sake, Mandela and your Tinubu have nothing in common, thats why Tinubu will never get to the hall of fame of mandela ..mandela did not build instead he lived as a role model. Full stop

Oga i am reasonable, sometimes i think outside the Box ... All those we consider special and voted for what good have they delivered, nobody shout Tinubu built lagos pass me .. where as it taken us.

i am tired of high hopes, over rated & special ones .. For the 1st time i want to vote for someone i under rate ...yes

@least i wont live in shock & disappointment for another 4yrs

JuanDeDios:
Well, I guess that's a possibility.

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Yes .. even Peter Obi said Tinubu does not want him to be on the ballot in 2027 election..

reddingtonblack:
J

Oga ma gbe mi ni handicap, mandela no get boiz mandela get dignity mandela did not play baba sope politics in south africa

He did one term nd left, despite his people pleaded he do more ... He didnt play do or die politics in SA so he no get agberos

See dont just argue for argue sake, Mandela and your Tinubu have nothing in common, thats why Tinubu will never get to the hall of fame of mandela ..mandela did not build instead he lived as a role model. Full stop

Oga i am reasonable, sometimes i think outside the Box ... All those we consider special and voted for what good have they delivered, nobody shout Tinubu built lagos pass me .. where as it taken us.

i am tired of high hopes, over rated & special ones .. For the 1st time i want to vote for someone i under rate ...yes

@least i wont live in shock & disappointment for another 4yrs

Do you know the funny thing and I know you won't believe me. I'm not even a supporter of Tinubu. I'm just a political analyst. My first and second degree projects were on Nigeria politics and structure and I know what I'm saying. But you emotional ones are quick to conclude when people don't support your claim.
I can discuss every election we've had in this country, even the one held before I was born or politically conscious. So I'm just analyzing and being obvious. Funny thing I won't and can't vote for Tinubu. I wish you know me in person.

The core north politicians within age 50 to early 60s will prefer a Tinubu second term and then negotiate their way to power in 2031. Even kwankwanso is negotiating and making himself politically relevant for 2031 and not for this 2027. The game is the game. And kwankwanso has been weakened even in his stronghold.
Unfortunately, the masses will bear the brunt. The whole politicking isn't for the good of the country but for their egos.
I repeat, a vote for Obi is a vote for Tinubu. That was what happened in 2023 and that's what will happen in 2027

Google is your friend. Mbeki and Ramaphosa are Mandela boys. Fact check

tishbite41:
Or Justice Liman
Or Inyang Okoro

I even forgot those

k2money:
Thank you my brother, he fought obj third term because he belief he's the next in line to be president and he deputize obj because he knew after obj it will be the turn of the North

Thanks Sir
These guys think Nigerians are fools

Felabrity:
I hope he knows what he is doing and not just moving upandan because of "what will my supporters say" or because Kwankwaso wants to be his VP (Kwankwaso also has his own agenda)


I personally want him on the ballot, but we shouldn't be making the same mistakes of 2023.

Moving from One party to another isn’t sending a good signal. Let’s be honest with ourselves here!

adams123:
What has this man done while he was a governor for good 8years?

Those of you who keep asking this stupid question need to have your brains checked. Very annoying set of people.

Hussein035:
Imagine if Obi is the iranian leader Hayatollah

He would have been running to beg USA and Europe. Obi self esteem is just too poor

I have better self esteem than this irresponsible Messiah

Obi should have formed his party and build on it. Nawa

Kukutente23:
Obi go Obi come barrack remain

He seems to have a problem with accepting reality. I think he has a lot of bad advisers around him
Him and Atiku are fast becoming the Awolowo and Azikiwe of the 70s. They just can't find common ground on their own

He said he takes advice from mad men. So that's that about his advisers.

Saladdin:
I second this too. It seems these people do not know simple BODMAS at all. Stay united and defeat the president or stay scattered and he wins again. They seem to underestimate how dangerously cunning Tinubu is.

I mean 2023 was an eye-opener, Ah! Everybody cannot be president at once. Come to a gentleman agreement: this one president, you vice, this one Senate President, you go back to the House, you choose any Ministerial slot that you want etc. This is how Wike retained his power and milked it to the fullest.

I don't know what they're trying to prove that has not been proven in 2023. In all of these though, Kwankwaso will be the biggest winner if he plays his cards right by deputizing Obi. His eyes should be on 2031 and he is primed to be the most formidable Northern candidate.

And you think and Egoistic Kwankwaso will deputize Obi ? Lol
Kwankwaso too wants to become president!

Legitiscool:
atiku has been clamouring for primary whether direct or indirect he had it covered

The leadership was all his people, obi was too naive to not see it from the start, he was expecting a pity coalition that can make atiku give him concesus.

Ibadan summit was the last straw for obi, atiku actually rallied all opposition under the summit to support whoever emerged as flagbearer, the issue of zoning or open contest further showed obi that atiku had no just boxed them in ADC but was boxing the larger coalition in the game of no zoning which always puts him in picture.

Right now obidients can now allow atiku rest and go put their new blames on kwankwaso because guyman is going to ndc because ndc has refused to do zoning stance

He just clarified today that he has always contested primary even when buhari and atiku dey his party.

So obi is an even small fish to fry with his pedigree in primary, obi is making another mistake of hoping on pity and propaganda blackmail to go meet kwankwaso in ndc

Kwankwaso has not affirmed anything to do with vp ticket but naive obi wants to go box himself in ndc thinking blackmail will force kwankwaso hand

You’re right. Kwankwaso speech yesterday shows he wasn’t ready to deputize anybody. We know Kwankwaso is a very egoistic politician with his kwankwasiya movement that doesn’t go beyond Kano.