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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 5:11pm On Jun 06
ppogba:
I always maintain that any semblance of sanity in the Nigerian economy will only begin with serious cleansing in the banking sector and the CBN itself. That the setting was rotten even from the head (CBN ) before now may be debatable but not in doubt. At least we have a Governor with IZAL and scrubbing brush for now.
lol....No be small IZAL treatment grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ppogba: 5:23pm On Jun 06
megawealth01:
I'm just looking at CBN as they are doing oju aye
If the Oju aye brings sanity, sanitizer and sanitization, it would not be an effort in vain.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by thebargainhunte: 5:29pm On Jun 06
GeneralDae:
The current market under Tinubu beats the naira devaluation from anytime in Buhari’s era no matter how you look at it. If you bought shares in 2016, you have made gains now in dollars for most stocks.
Anybody that bought Caverton plc at N3.26 in 2019 is still at loss. grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jckgroup1(m): 5:48pm On Jun 06
grin
Agbalowomeri:
You want to short at this very strong support? You go reach village before Loco grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 5:49pm On Jun 06
Abi na
ppogba:
If the Oju aye brings sanity, sanitizer and sanitization, it would not be an effort in vain.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 5:55pm On Jun 06
Bitisi is another mystery of the 🌍

Make altcoins season begin make I travel the world in luxuries grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jckgroup1(m): 5:59pm On Jun 06
Are you sure? One investor was promoting the PO as the next TIP, with the sentiment of huge discount to market price cool
isaacosas01:
The PO will fail
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by isaacosas01(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06
jckgroup1:
Are you sure? One investor was promoting the PO as the next TIP, with the sentiment of huge discount to market price cool
Lol - next TIP with their balance sheet.
TIP is doing well because of its very good financials, it has recorded over 200% growth.

IEI balance sheet is beyond horrible. They are declining and getting worst like a cancer.
IEI is loss making and their Q1 shows even more losses.
It’s better u set ur money on fire than invest their PO.
IEI book value is less than 50kobo… imagine paying 3.2 naira for loss making company with less than 50kobo book value.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 6:55pm On Jun 06
isaacosas01:
Lol - next TIP with their balance sheet.
TIP is doing well because of its very good financials, it has recorded over 200% growth.

IEI balance sheet is beyond horrible. They are declining and getting worst like a cancer.
IEI is loss making and their Q1 shows even more losses.
It’s better u set ur money on fire than invest their PO.
IEI book value is less than 50kobo… imagine paying 3.2 naira for loss making company with less than 50kobo book value.
It is a lie
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeneralDae: 9:51pm On Jun 06
ppogba:
Oga, maybe you need to enlighten me. I am yet to get the logic in bringing the issue of the Naira to the Dollar rate eons ago when people are talking about prices of Shares.
They are talking about how they have lost value in real terms (usually in hard currency). You get it now?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 9:51pm On Jun 06
Dangote refinery
$0.35 per share in the private placement
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by isaacosas01(m): 10:03pm On Jun 06
Sunrisepebble:
Dangote refinery
$0.35 per share in the private placement
Wow! Except this is locked for atleast 1 year, i won’t be participating in the IPO.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by handsomebolanle: 10:04pm On Jun 06
Sunrisepebble:
Dangote refinery
$0.35 per share in the private placement
Thanks… that’s circa 490.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 10:05pm On Jun 06
handsomebolanle:
Thanks… that’s circa 490.
But not available to the ordinary investor
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by essentialone(m): 11:22pm On Jun 06
If since January till now, your total Portfolio has not gained more than 57%, then you chose wrong stocks, and you need a complete Portfolio Reshuffling...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 11:30pm On Jun 06
Yes. There is a holding period of 1 year.
Valuation $39.1bn
isaacosas01:
Wow! Except this is locked for atleast 1 year, i won’t be participating in the IPO.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Shalom428: 11:33pm On Jun 06
Thanks bro for passing the sweet whisper. Potential IPO investors can now use this as a guide. Its now easy to tell if the IPO price is super inflated or reasonable.
Sunrisepebble:
Dangote refinery
$0.35 per share in the private placement
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 11:51pm On Jun 06
I think IPO will be $50bn
Shalom428:
Thanks bro for passing the sweet whisper. Potential IPO investors can now use this as a guide. Its now easy to tell if the IPO price is super inflated or reasonable.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Shalom428: 12:06am On Jun 07
Yes, I think so too. You are solid!
Sunrisepebble:
I think IPO will be $50bn
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 1:21am On Jun 07
💕
Sunrisepebble:
Dangote refinery
$0.35 per share in the private placement
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 1:28am On Jun 07
WOW
Sunrisepebble:
Yes. There is a holding period of 1 year.
Valuation $39.1bn
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by unite4real: 5:49am On Jun 07
Sunrisepebble:
I think IPO will be $50bn
We are looking at a possibility of over 100 billion units of outstanding shares
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by handsomebolanle: 6:03am On Jun 07
Sunrisepebble:
I think IPO will be $50bn
Over 15Trillion naira margin.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by isaacosas01(m):
Shalom428:
Thanks bro for passing the sweet whisper. Potential IPO investors can now use this as a guide. Its now easy to tell if the IPO price is super inflated or reasonable.
Bro this private placement valuation is inflated. When i was hearing valuation of $40B i thought it was a joke. So they are really going to value it at $40b.

This is a circular valuation — you’re paying a future price to fund the future you’re paying for.

$39.1B is a 2028 - 2030 valuation when the refinery is doing 1.4 million bpb, not a 2026 one.
The valuation of the refinery today is $18B to $25B.

You can do the math yourself using the largest refinery in the world - Jamnagar. Dangote is currently priced higher than it at $39.1B which makes no sense.

Lastly for retail investor this is clearly not a growth stock. It’s already priced in future growth.

Returns come from buying below intrinsic value, not from buying a great asset.
Dangote Refinery is a great asset. But a great asset at the wrong price is a bad investment.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeneralDae: 7:46am On Jun 07
Sunrisepebble:
Yes. There is a holding period of 1 year.
Valuation $39.1bn
$39.1 Billion is reasonable given the fact that they are expanding
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Laolballs: 7:54am On Jun 07
Have someone checked out mtn stocks latetly , any thoughts on it neartime price

https://ngxmarketcap.com/stocks/MTNN

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by isaacosas01(m): 8:27am On Jun 07
Laolballs:
Have someone checked out mtn stocks latetly , any thoughts on it neartime price

https://ngxmarketcap.com/stocks/MTNN
MTN will trade over #1,000 this year
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by isaacosas01(m): 8:29am On Jun 07
GeneralDae:
$39.1 Billion is reasonable given the fact that they are expanding
This is exactly my problem. Why are they pricing expansion that has not happen into its valuation?

If you now add that Nigeria is still a frontier market that should discount it by 30%
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by unite4real:
isaacosas01:
This is exactly my problem. Why are they pricing expansion that has not happen into its valuation?

If you now add that Nigeria is still a frontier market that should discount it by 30%
Even the frontier is still awaiting confirmation. I will not join the hype surrounding this IPO. If it retraces by significant discount after the listing, then I can consider. I will just be watching those stocks that will be depressed when people are taking out fund to go and tie down in the IPO. I will be on the opposite direction.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 8:48am On Jun 07
But should one be paying for perfect execution ahead of time?

By the way I don’t agree with one of my mentions here that the refinery is overvalued. DR is the most modern and efficient refinery in the world, average age of European refineries are 70+. It’s also not just a local supplier, but a continental one which adds to the premium. I wish I could share financials but from going to the site myself I’ve heard that they’re making something like $1bn in EBITDA every month since the start of the Middle East crisis. Their margins are also far healthier than any refinery out there

I will be participating in the private placement.
GeneralDae:
$39.1 Billion is reasonable given the fact that they are expanding
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 8:59am On Jun 07
isaacosas01:
This is exactly my problem. Why are they pricing expansion that has not happen into its valuation?

If you now add that Nigeria is still a frontier market that should discount it by 30%
Are they not raising FRESH capital that will take them to the NEW VALUATION? It's not as if they are just listing shares based on current valuation. It is an IPO
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 9:09am On Jun 07
Sunrisepebble:
But should one be paying for perfect execution ahead of time?

By the way I don’t agree with one of my mentions here that the refinery is overvalued. DR is the most modern and efficient refinery in the world, average age of European refineries are 70+. It’s also not just a local supplier, but a continental one which adds to the premium. I wish I could share financials but from going to the site myself I’ve heard that they’re making something like $1bn in EBITDA every month since the start of the Middle East crisis. Their margins are also far healthier than any refinery out there

I will be participating in the private placement.
What’s the minimum entry barrier they are setting for private investors to get an allocation?
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