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Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by ceejayluv(m): 6:47am On Jun 09
Lamanii22:
I don't know why some people need maid if it isn't laziness or show off, I don't like the idea at all, my neighbor has a small girl working as a maid, I don't even know the last time that girl went to school, they'd send her on errand even at night, maybe I should even report this to the authority set....
Please do
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by damoobaba: 6:47am On Jun 09
MarketDispatch:
Good one...maid cooks for husband, wash for husband, cleans the house for husband, arranges house for husband, goes to the market for husband, whilst wife is just to seat down, press phone and browse Instagram. Husband will soon promote maid and demote wife
Wife only knows how to spend money and wait for pr!ck. Some of them, the husband pr!ck will not do them, they still go and doke outside. Man wey no get sense go suffer.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Kemadealadire(f): 6:50am On Jun 09
Harddiskng:
“What is important to us as a family”, like what? undecided

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Most women that I have seen use a maid for almost everything, just use them to converse their energy so they can grow fat and round lipsrsealed




Like you don’t know a man would rather have a clean, hardworking uneducated woman as a wife than an educated lazy, can’t-take-care-of-home working class lady.
Then, the man should go ahead and marry the hardworking uneducated lady and rest. You lots come online to say all kinds. You think it's easy taking care of children esp. little ones, feeding, cleaning etc. on a day-to-day basis and still combining that with working a full-time job and/or running a business for money that would still go back to taking care of the family.

If you can afford to outsource some, why not??. How many men can do all these successfully, most can't even tend to their children for 2hrs. How many men can provide everything their family needs 100% without their women supportinghuh Whereas it's the man's curse to provide for his family.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by ariesbull(op): 7:29am On Jun 09
Are you done ? You can shift
QuinQ:
An old, old write-up.
This is in theory. Practice is quite different
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by ariesbull(op): 7:29am On Jun 09
So na Igbo be that
thatigboman:
is Niger Delta a tribe? Over 60% of indigenous Niger Deltans are igbos
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Skj13777: 7:32am On Jun 09
With that kind of salary you can employ a graduate . So house help cost you N200,000 a month and your saying your still looking for house help? Your story does not add up.
pocohantas:
Slavery: Slavery is the condition in which one human being is legally owned by another and forced to work without compensation.



My house assistants work conditions;

1) My two house assistants were adults.

2) They signed a formal contract to work for/with me.

3) Work hours are 9am to 5pm, Mon-Fri, and on days where they worked beyond 6pm, they were paid for extra hours. Mostly days we bulk cooked or had a lot of deep cleaning to do.

4) They were entitled to breakfast and lunch.

5) They handled everything but cooking and caregiving. Errands, sweep, mop, market pickup (I have a shopper, they only pickup from her), iron clothes, clean general areas. They never washed or ironed adult clothes.

6) They were paid above minimum wage. 100k/month to be very specific. N40,000 biweekly. N20,000 was kept aside as their pension, payable with its accumulated interest upon resignation.

7) They both lived within walkable distance. Like a 15mins walk, so they didn't incur transportation cost.


What part of this arrangement was slavery? I am open to learning because this seems like a day job to me and legal domestic staffing have existed in different forms under different names.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Teymanhenry(f): 7:34am On Jun 09
This is exactly what I was telling my female colleague. Story story

I introduced her to one of my closest friends, but from the start, all she seemed interested in was what she could get from him. It was one outing, bar, or hangout after another. I warned her that no serious man takes a woman he values for marriage everywhere she wants to go just to fund her lifestyle. Unfortunately, her appetite for constant spending wouldn't allow her to heed that advice.

She would often claim she hadn't eaten at home just so he would buy her food. Before long, my friend met another lady, and the contrast was striking.

For three straight weeks, this new lady cooked meals, brought them to his house, and returned to her shop afterward. They spent time together without any pressure for intimacy. According to him, she was ticking almost every box he looks for in a wife.

The sad reality is that he now sees my colleague as nothing more than a casual fling. These days, he doesn't even invite her to his house anymore; it's mostly hotels and nothing beyond that.

Ironically, she has become desperate and keeps asking him to meet her parents, but he always finds an excuse. He openly told me that she is the last woman he would consider marrying because he sees her as a financial burden. Meanwhile, he has already started saving towards marriage with the woman he met much later. He believes that if things continue the way they are, he could begin marriage preparations with her by this time next year.

A lesson many people overlook is that while attraction may start a relationship, character, selflessness, and value often determine who gets chosen for commitment.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by BRATISLAVA: 7:39am On Jun 09
chatinent:
Suitors prefer a wife (maid, mango seller, hair dresser, classic girl, literate, illiterate..etc). It has nothing to do with being a maid. It's about being able to be a wife.
Oh, so it has nothing to do with sharing bills with women who bring something to the table and you all are married to these people who serve you, or does the goal post shift so much that it's apparent Nigerian men don't know what they want except that it's convenient to shame or preach at women all the time?

It's an investment banker telling us he prefers his maid to his wife. grin
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by pocohantas(f): 7:41am On Jun 09
Skj13777:
With that kind of salary you can employ a graduate . So house help cost you N200,000 a month and your saying your still looking for house help? Your story does not add up.
English shouldn't be that hard. "I have had two house assistants". No part of my post said they worked at the same time. It is also clear that it is past tense. If at all they still work with us, you should understand that you do not know our income range and nothing is out of place for 200k a month.

Thank you

oroje1:
If you don't use harsh or unspeakable words on them when they make mistakes,then kudos to you and may God bless u abundantly.. Amen!!!
I have very strict rules and I have even suspended where necessary. No need to make up extra conditions before asking God to bless me. If He hasn't been blessing me/us, we won't see such money to pay them.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by BRATISLAVA: 7:43am On Jun 09
Skj13777:
With that kind of salary you can employ a graduate . So house help cost you N200,000 a month and your saying your still looking for house help? Your story does not add up.
It adds up. When the need arises, one will find a way to make it work.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by BRATISLAVA: 7:45am On Jun 09
Kemadealadire:
Then, the man should go ahead and marry the hardworking uneducated lady and rest. You lots come online to say all kinds. You think it's easy taking care of children esp. little ones, feeding, cleaning etc. on a day-to-day basis and still combining that with working a full-time job and/or running a business for money that would still go back to taking care of the family.

If you can afford to outsource some, why not??. How many men can do all these successfully, most can't even tend to their children for 2hrs. How many men can provide everything their family needs 100% without their women supportinghuh Whereas it's the man's curse to provide for his family.
cheesy grin cheesy grin

You will have to quote that Bible passage, because they're always preaching and conveniently ignoring this part. This part they want women to share with them. Don't let them get away with it.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by BRATISLAVA: 7:47am On Jun 09
gabbytabby:
We are all at different stages of life and paying for some of the domestic services if you can afford to is an issue frowned on by people with a poverty mindset.

I can do it all ends up shortening peoples life especially in patriarchal societies with a it’s a women job mentality. Get and pay for help if you want to.

Don’t let essentially lazy and poor men gaslight you into an early grave.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Jman06(m): 7:50am On Jun 09
Not only are the maids trained to be better wife materials and great home managers, they're equally better equipped to survive in the face of difficult situations, while their overpampered "precious" daughters can't even survive the slightest life challenges.

Honestly, most maids who endured the harsh conditions of living with some madams turn out to be better women not only for marriage but us also for life generally.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Kaczynski: 8:03am On Jun 09
UnknownQueen:
If house helps = modern day slavery, what then do you call office assistants and cleanershuh??

Or even care givers in developed country...

Everybody cant be rich, even the poor the bible says will be amongst us.....tell me what the poor do, if not one of the above...
You’re peddling the same neoliberal tripe that tech bros use to justify exploitation of labor. You’re not a slave if you can quit at any time.

Office assistants? Cleaners? Caregivers? They’re the backbone of your precious developed economy and what do they get? shmitty wage, no benefits and the condescending pat on the head from people like you who think poverty is just a lifestyle choice. The poor aren’t entrepreneurs of their own means. they’re trapped in a system designed to keep them trapped.

The Bible also says women should submit to their husbands and gays should be stoned. If you’re going to cherry pick ancient texts to justify modern inequality, at least have the decency to admit you’re a beguiler.

The poor don’t choose to be poor. They’re the collateral damage of a system that rewards the rich while pretending the rest of us are just lazy or unmotivated.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by giacomogiovanni: 8:41am On Jun 09
Lamanii22:
I don't know why some people need maid if it isn't laziness or show off, I don't like the idea at all, my neighbor has a small girl working as a maid, I don't even know the last time that girl went to school, they'd send her on errand even at night, maybe I should even report this to the authority set....
You should.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by weedfada(m): 8:42am On Jun 09
Some women no send your papa o (referring to their daughters). During my nysc, I briefly stayed with one of my uncles (they're effing wealthy, man works with total, wife with shell then).
The woman had three house helps and two daughters. Them no born any of the daughters not to be involved and be around the kitchen while cooking was going on (they're always cooking one thing or the other in that house sha, Kai!) plus engaging in other house chores was a must cos it was a gaddam big house.
Me sef wey come for nysc collect, the woman told me to be washing one of the bathrooms upstairs. One day while she was leaving for work, she told them to inform me to wash the bathroom assigned to me again, that it wasn't clean enough. Omo! After a while I japa sha cheesy
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Youngqueen(f): 8:58am On Jun 09
Men would prefer maid cos they lack the sophistication of a learned wife. Maid will take their excesses but an educated wife would require accountability from them...men hates that. Maid will thank her man for cheating and blame herself...an wife will stir trouble and leave. Men tho!
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Onegai(f): 9:26am On Jun 09
MightySparrow:
Agreed. In our society man marries down ( hypogamy) ; girl marries up( hypergamy). Any parents going against such philosophy is wasting the marriage of the daughters from under his roof.
A man can marry that doctor, lawyer, banker, engineer, pharmacist that lacks the training to manage her man.
She would be a Vashti in the palace while the other woman outside is the confidant, the 'real wife'. The delicately, sophisticated one is just a social status woma who would soon become a single mother, divorcee, separated and a career woman. Such woman is a ' strong woman' outwardly but crumbling inside.

Train the girl - child. Sex is no longer a thing to tie any man down. intimacy gadgets are now taking over.
In my entire life, and it has been a long one

I have never seen this happen ever.

That's like Mr Eazi saying he left Temi Otedola for a GTB marketer because she doesn't enter the kitchen, but GTB marketer made ogbono soup from scratch for him. In 5 years' time, he will be telling GTB marketer angrily "what do you bring to the table??" and NL boys will be supporting him.

Even in Nollywood, these stories are obsolete.

Gbloriousgbola is right: the men that marry downwards are looking for who to control and it ends badly. That's what half of UK and US marriages are: someone left the women who were his equals, went to his village to marry a 20 yr old "virgin", carried her abroad and saw signs and wonders.

In the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s your ancestors were married to dutiful not-so-educated women who cherished their small shops, farms and tended to their homes. Those same men screamed "we don't want HOUSEWIFE, we want GRADUATE!" and we're always running off with a Secretary back then to make that one a 2nd wife.

Now, they're screaming "We don't want GRADUATE, we want HOUSEWIFE!". And running away to village for "peace of mind"

May the spirit of confusion and discontentment depart from us all. Amen
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by epainos: 9:31am On Jun 09
pocohantas:
I have had two house assistants (I rather not call them maid) and I ENJOYED it. I don't encourage using minors for domestic labour, but I employ adults. I also do not do live-in, and my decision to employ one had nothing to do with laziness or show-off. I simply conserved my time and energy for what is most important to us as a family. I would get another once I see a lady I connect with.
Well done ma. Thats the way to go.

Let me jhuat be frank, the original writer of that article is among those who will relocate abroad and have serious crisis in their marriages. Lol.

The truth is that when a man is solid and busy, he wont even have time to push his wife to the kitchen. The woman is meant to supervise. I am not advocating for girls not to know how to cook, but Nigeria has a long history of seeing women as kitchen utensils. When that same women get abroad and they are empowered, the men cant cope and there will be crisis.

A man who goes after the maid juat because she can cook will have wahala too. That same maid will only be submissive in Nigeria. Let her get to an environment she is properly empowered and then realises her value.

So, let the men keep going for maids or girls who can cook only. Lol. Dem go soon understand that things have changed.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by kpankpangolo: 9:53am On Jun 09
Another write-up from a wild imagination. Nothing to see here but an eye-catching headline.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Lamanii22(f): 10:11am On Jun 09
tollyboy5:
If they’re not physically abusing her. Just let them be, but the aspect of her not going to school is something else.
Do their own children go to school?
The girl looks at me like she wants me to help her...
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by pocohantas(f): 10:23am On Jun 09
epainos:
Well done ma. Thats the way to go.

Let me jhuat be frank, the original writer of that article is among those who will relocate abroad and have serious crisis in their marriages. Lol.

The truth is that when a man is solid and busy, he wont even have time to push his wife to the kitchen. The woman is meant to supervise. I am not advocating for girls not to know how to cook, but Nigeria has a long history of seeing women as kitchen utensils. When that same women get abroad and they are empowered, the men cant cope and there will be crisis.

A man who goes after the maid juat because she can cook will have wahala too. That same maid will only be submissive in Nigeria. Let her get to an environment she is properly empowered and then realises her value.

So, let the men keep going for maids or girls who can cook only. Lol. Dem go soon understand that things have changed.
I agree with you because this hasn't been a problem in my circle. He was even the one that suggested we get one to clear out my schedule. The most important thing is accountability. I hire, onboard, and ensure they carry out their duties well. I cannot be running around to go buy fish and ponmo in addition to other duties.

I really enjoyed my house assistants, especially the second one. Before I enter the kitchen, she has washed and blended every. It was a win win relationship for all of us.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by MightySparrow:
Onegai:
In my entire life, and it has been a long one

I have never seen this happen ever.

That's like Mr Eazi saying he left Temi Otedola for a GTB marketer because she doesn't enter the kitchen, but GTB marketer made ogbono soup from scratch for him. In 5 years' time, he will be telling GTB marketer angrily "what do you bring to the table??" and NL boys will be supporting him.

Even in Nollywood, these stories are obsolete.

Gbloriousgbola is right: the men that marry downwards are looking for who to control and it ends badly. That's what half of UK and US marriages are: someone left the women who were his equals, went to his village to marry a 20 yr old "virgin", carried her abroad and saw signs and wonders.

In the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s your ancestors were married to dutiful not-so-educated women who cherished their small shops, farms and tended to their homes. Those same men screamed "we don't want HOUSEWIFE, we want GRADUATE!" and we're always running off with a Secretary back then to make that one a 2nd wife.

Now, they're screaming "We don't want GRADUATE, we want HOUSEWIFE!". And running away to village for "peace of mind"

May the spirit of confusion and discontentment depart from us all. Amen
Your problem my dear is the common confusion being experienced in our communities. People living abroad want to emulate the natives and bring upon themselves woes never bargained for. The Indians, Chinese living in the same western world have better marriages and family bond than African people, many of whom their women are single parents, children living wild because they lost their culture.

Blacks are never respected for their werey. You people are bringing same home. There are certain values that must be kept and respected. No man would want to marry up, no not in our culture. I, as father, will not bless such marriage for my son. He is raised as a man, a man in the African culture. If a woman is misbehaving, marry another. Don't divorce her. Leave her to take her decision.
I have seen many girls raised with arrogance regret in later life.

This stupidity touted by this unrealistic generation only thrive in the early days of marriage. Ask any couple who have been married for twenty five or thirty years if those things matter?

Many high profile girls from rich backgrounds, good or fearsome careers like medicals, military, pilots, if they cannot marry within their circle. They suffer.

Men be men, women be women within your culture.
The world is a structured society. Fighting against the structure is like punching a bag of thorns.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by ultraviolet27(f): 11:08am On Jun 09
pocohantas:
Lol! You are simply delusional.
Adults took a job as a domestic staff. They go home to their families everyday and you say I am exploiting them? Which labour rule was flouted? Their future is in their hands now, they are not working with me anymore.😂
You get time sha
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by ultraviolet27(f): 11:10am On Jun 09
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Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by emynike2001(m): 11:58am On Jun 09
Teymanhenry:
This is exactly what I was telling my female colleague. Story story

I introduced her to one of my closest friends, but from the start, all she seemed interested in was what she could get from him. It was one outing, bar, or hangout after another. I warned her that no serious man takes a woman he values for marriage everywhere she wants to go just to fund her lifestyle. Unfortunately, her appetite for constant spending wouldn't allow her to heed that advice.

She would often claim she hadn't eaten at home just so he would buy her food. Before long, my friend met another lady, and the contrast was striking.

For three straight weeks, this new lady cooked meals, brought them to his house, and returned to her shop afterward. They spent time together without any pressure for intimacy. According to him, she was ticking almost every box he looks for in a wife.

The sad reality is that he now sees my colleague as nothing more than a casual fling. These days, he doesn't even invite her to his house anymore; it's mostly hotels and nothing beyond that.

Ironically, she has become desperate and keeps asking him to meet her parents, but he always finds an excuse. He openly told me that she is the last woman he would consider marrying because he sees her as a financial burden. Meanwhile, he has already started saving towards marriage with the woman he met much later. He believes that if things continue the way they are, he could begin marriage preparations with her by this time next year.

A lesson many people overlook is that while attraction may start a relationship, character, selflessness, and value often determine who gets chosen for commitment.
Straight on point...let them who have ears hear. Period. End of discussion.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Dalohad: 1:28pm On Jun 09
Kaczynski:
That's slavery in the 90s. Modern day slavery is utterly different.

You’re overcompensating to mask the fact that you’re treating them like indentured servants basically dangling their future like a carrot on a stick. You’re ensuring they’re always within arm’s reach like a well-trained pet.

You’re the one dictating their every move. They don’t get to choose their tasks, you assign them like a prison warden.


Slavery isn’t just chains and whips, It’s about control. It’s about making someone dependent on you for their livelihood. It’s about treating human beings like resources to be exploited.

This isn’t a job. This is wage slavery with a side of paternalistic bs. You’re not their boss, you’re their warden.
You are a proper evidence that dumbery and delusions cannot be successfully masked with highfalutin lexical wordery and blowing 'big grammar'.

Have you ever employed and paid anyone a living wage? I doubt it.

Hypocrisy stinks too bad.
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Dukeolumidemans(m): 2:26pm On Jun 09
MarketDispatch:
Good one...maid cooks for husband, wash for husband, cleans the house for husband, arranges house for husband, goes to the market for husband, whilst wife is just to seat down, press phone and browse Instagram. Husband will soon promote maid and demote wife
💯% correct!!!
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Dukeolumidemans(m): 2:26pm On Jun 09
chatinent:
Suitors prefer a wife (maid, mango seller, hair dresser, classic girl, literate, illiterate..etc). It has nothing to do with being a maid. It's about being able to be a wife.
💯% correct!!!
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by SeriouslySense(m): 4:59pm On Jun 09
you are like wealthy in Thunder strikes grin grin
Apcshit:
0.00
Thunder fire you
Re: Suitors Now Prefer Our Maids To Our Daughters For Marriage by Nefort: 5:19pm On Jun 09
pocohantas:
I have had two house assistants (I rather not call them maid) and I ENJOYED it. I don't encourage using minors for domestic labour, but I employ adults. I also do not do live-in, and my decision to employ one had nothing to do with laziness or show-off. I simply conserved my time and energy for what is most important to us as a family. I would get another once I see a lady I connect with.
Which is what?
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