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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 10:09am On Jul 01 |
4willer:Market is sick today |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:19am On Jul 01 |
isaacosas01:You mean you would rather have the CSCS match you with a buyer that they're not sure has the funds to pay you? I think you and your Russell people should shift. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 10:21am On Jul 01 |
Oasisblue:This is not as beautiful as it looks. The entirety of the “turnaround” is from disposal of assets, that is not a turnaround, but a one-off, which can even signal more problems as those assets are no longer available to generate income. When normalized, for the core operations of the business, the result is largely flat. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:25am On Jul 01 |
isaacosas01:Since when has naira become scarce in our FX market ?buying naira is the easiest side of the fx transaction ain't it?? I mean almost every bank in nigeria would gladly buy your dollars for naira in 2 seconds, no form, no paperwork, super swift, it's to buy dollars with naira that's hard. I don't understand your point. Plus there's an inconsistency if you say T+2 gives them 2 days while T+1 requires same day. it's either you say T+2 gives them 2 days while T+1 gives them one day, or if you insist the later requires same day, then the former only gave them 1 day not 2. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 10:27am On Jul 01 |
awesomeJ:Are you aware of an instance where a matched transaction was not consummated? Let’s not imagine problems, and base a system on our imaginations, where data exist. Even if we were to admit your imagination into the review, t+1, does not solve that problem. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:30am On Jul 01 |
Meerahbel:Exactly!!!! My only confusion is why are you like Isaac also making it sound like selling dollars to get naira is so hard am i missing something? isn't it the other conversion that's been hard since i've known this country![]() I reckon even if $10bn came in today, N15trn will appear to buy it, abi e pass for CBN to just type in N15trn and adjust balance sheet with the dollars they buy?? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:32am On Jul 01 |
mikeapollo:I tire o. Like I should be confident to sell my shares to a buyer that doesn't have the cash to pay me?? why would anyone paint prefunding in such bad light? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by starpower(m): 10:38am On Jul 01 |
Oasisblue:nothing beautiful about it, expenses are growing more that revenue, the abnormal gains just drive up the earnings, they aren't recurrent income but better look into cash flow statement properly. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 10:39am On Jul 01 |
awesomeJ:Firstly, the funds in question are institutional funds not retail dollars. Secondly, have you considered the turnaround time for nigerian banks to receive large fx funds, convert the funds and then credit the naira equivalent? Are you considering time zones? Some problems are better understood when you have first hand knowledge and experience them. Please note that your expectation is not the problem, but the versatility and limitations of the financial market infrastructure is the problem. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 10:40am On Jul 01 |
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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:41am On Jul 01 |
guyzgirl:Matched transaction not consummated in which market, provide the data you refer to and stop making cheap attempts at sounding informed. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 10:43am On Jul 01 |
guyzgirl:You make a point. However, earnings and Eps doubled if you take that asset disposal out. Still a plus. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 10:47am On Jul 01 |
awesomeJ:Sir, you are the one who brought up trust issues around being matched by cscs and not being able to consummate, hence the onus is one you to justify your worry. Try to stay in the realm of civility. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:49am On Jul 01 |
guyzgirl:What infrastructure?? Do you just enjoy sounding unnecessarily complicated? Are you saying we do not already have FX infrasture in place or you mean FMDQ systems would crash if they attempeted processing $10bn? By the way you should realize that as far as systems are concerned, the computer uses thesame processing power to move $1m as it does moving $500bn. please state with clarity where you think the problems exists so we can see if you have any genuine points, or if it's AI that's feeding you confusion. Also mention one time when FX inflows came into the country and between the primary dealers on the FMDQ and the CBN, nobody could get them liquidity. some of you try to regurgitate AI garbage without context. We had a similar complaints about this FX conversion regarding prefunding in our debt market 1 or 2 years ago, but LISTEN CLOSELY: The FPIs concerns WERE NEVER IF THEY WOULD GET NAIRA, IT WAS 10000000% ABOUT THEM NOT WANTING TO PRE FUND IF THEY WEREN'T YET SURE THEIR BIDS WOULD SAIL!!! THAT'S BIDS IN ALL THE DEBT INSTRUMENTS INCLUDING OMO. So learn small context, and rely less on irrelevant theories. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 10:50am On Jul 01 |
chimex38:You are correct. But that is also as a result of the reduction of a previous one-off (fx losses). There is still some work to be done in the company. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Oasisblue: 10:52am On Jul 01 |
For a company that was on the verge of closing shop and leaving Nigeria, this is a very good step forward. Quite promising. guyzgirl: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 10:53am On Jul 01 |
guyzgirl:then you obviously didn't read my post well. let me rephrase: as a market partcipant who sells shares, it's in my interest that the CSCS requires potential buyers to prefund their accounts before attempting to buy my shares. that's not a statement that requires me to prove anything, just an explanation on why prefunding is the ideal requirement. Your Russel people want the CSCS to match me to a buyer who will then start looking for naira to pay me after the sale haba na. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Pete002: 11:06am On Jul 01 |
Ocallen:You forgot to add '-' ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ginalex(f): 11:07am On Jul 01 |
Transcorp trading at below 38 naira is crazy... But then again, Elumelu and paying poor dividend is 5 and 6. If not, I would have considered buying it |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Olaide1295: 11:09am On Jul 01 |
awesomeJ:But that has always been the case before the T+1 change. The foreign guys give instruction to their brokers, the broker buys and then the foreign investor moves in money same day which settles next day. The problem with this T+1 is it doesn't allow them enough time. They also don't want to prefund and take on currency risk etc. The solution is either for us to return to T+2 or if the CBN/FMDQ can make Naira convertible (this is a long term thing, can't be rushed). |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Oasisblue: 11:10am On Jul 01 |
Wow. NGX suffered highest monthly loss in recent history in June 2026. In percentage terms, June’s 8.28% decline is not Nigeria’s worst monthly market correction. However, the size of today’s market makes June 2026 unprecedented in value terms. Back in March 2020, the entire Nigerian stock market was worth only about N13.6 trillion, meaning the whole exchange was roughly the size of the wealth destroyed in June alone.- Niarametrics Will this continue in July? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ocallen: 11:13am On Jul 01 |
Pete002: Bargain hunters, where at thou? Aradel on full offer. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by thebargainhunte: 11:19am On Jul 01 |
Ocallen:Ndi fundamentalist, no body wants to come close again. I remember when Zichis was mocked being on full offer. ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Olaide1295: 11:22am On Jul 01 |
Oasisblue:How down is the market from ATH? In percentage terms. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 11:27am On Jul 01 |
Oasisblue:Actual loss was over 10.5%, it was moderated with airtel finally surging back to life in June. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 11:28am On Jul 01 |
Olaide1295:252k -228k is about 24k points off ATH, that's about 9.5% |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 11:33am On Jul 01 |
Olaide1295:Maybe the missing link here is the settlement time on the FMDQ, I assume spot trades there are instantly settled, someone with actual knowledge should please confirm the actual settlement timeline. You're the one who has given the clearest explanation to this. Other posters made it seem like CSCS was wrong for requiring prefunding or that there was no naira liquidity. If the actual case is that FMDQ settles in T+1, like Tbills are also settled in T+1, then FPIs will need to prefund a day before which makes the concern understandable but not significant enough for us to roll back our T+1 |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by guyzgirl(m): 11:35am On Jul 01 |
awesomeJ:Again, try to stay civil, no one is dragging chair with you!! Leveraging your example, you assume a person bringing such volumes would rely on generic rates? You assume the buyer would not need to ALM/ treasury approval to purchase volume? You ignore the time zones? You ignore that FMDQ itself has a settlement period. You ignore that your market is not liquid enough to guarantee that a large trades would be executed after finishing the exchange process. You expect the foreign investor to inadvertently take a long position on the naira, pending when his trade is concluded? Like you said, they don't want to pre-fund, and thats because there are greater risks associated with the position, compared to other markets. Remember that investors still suffer PTSD from recently not being able to repatriate their naira earning? Don’t trivialize by equating systems to computers running large $ volumes, i know we both know it goes beyond that. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by PETERiCHY(m): 11:35am On Jul 01 |
Ocallen:ARADEL SWEET-SPOT is @t Circa #500 BARGAIN HUNTERS TAKE NOTE! |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 11:36am On Jul 01 |
Ocallen:It must bow to sub 1000 |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ayfuntua(m): 11:38am On Jul 01 |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 11:41am On Jul 01 |
guyzgirl:The only point i see here is the FMDQ settlement period you mentioned, all else are assumotions you made on my behalf and are not diffrent whether T+1 or T+2 abi timezone in new york has suddenly chnaged because CSCS transitioned to T+1? so now, what's the timeline for settling spot trades on the FMDq? If you had simply said "FMDQ doesn't do same day settlement even for spot trades", that would have conveyed your point far better than this unnecessary complications and irrelevant points about timezones. |
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