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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 4willer: 1:13pm On Sep 09 |
If this bloodbath continues throughout the one month that the DR IPO will run its course, what will become of the market thereafter? Is this a good omen for the market? Some stocks might run under water for all you know....or even disappear sef...especially the insurance stocks. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 1:18pm On Sep 09 |
iskalamong:Possibly |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 1:19pm On Sep 09 |
aj8:It is absolutely madness for ipo to be 124 billion units. So if he decides to come for PO in future what happens. Even space x na how many units be the OS.Even a sign of greed he still took 84% of this OS to himself. Then releasing balablu statement that the Refinery is national asset or him creating wealth for Nigerians. How now.He just need Nigerians that will make his voice loud anytime his business is threatened by government action. If he so loved Nigerians.He should have made the business ownership 50/50 for himself and Nigerians / government/PP guys |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jonnysessy(m): 1:20pm On Sep 09 |
4willer:The insurance stocks are already down, he that is down needs fear no fall........ |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by sconp: 1:23pm On Sep 09 |
SonofElElyonRet:The heading of this says proposed statement. Also, I can't seem to find where he stated he'll be retiring in 5years online. Could you kindly provide a link to this speech. Thanks |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 1:24pm On Sep 09 |
4willer: mikeapollo:OK.. I see your angle now. Yes, you guyz have a point. it will reduce duplicates. Though there's no ceiling on maximum quantity an individual can buy.. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 1:26pm On Sep 09 |
jonnysessy:Wickedness is that you? ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Pennystockwarri(m): 1:30pm On Sep 09 |
Here is a snapshot of trading so far today on the NGX. https://open.spotify.com/episode/4kUyrcc0smIvIJBIbZWqcj?si=gWWHd6AcRyGY7S5qa_rRiw https://rumble.com/v7fa2fq-ngx-midday-update-wednesday-september-9-2026.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeJAmh4SpYA |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 1:32pm On Sep 09 |
A year after this Ipo.when some people hear I they won't wait to hear P..lol Watin concern me na politics dey sweet me now |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jonnysessy(m): 1:33pm On Sep 09 |
chimex38:This is not wickedness. Just stating the obvious, with the way the market is tanking, insurance stocks has little or nothing to lose. But, the big cap stocks with high prices will be sliding down daily until the IPO is done. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 1:42pm On Sep 09 |
yMcy56:You are perfectly right to stick to your opinion. And I cannot fault you. It is rather curious, that you have been very bullish and supportive of virtually every stock that listed, both old and new, including FTGInsure, Zichis etc. But you now describe Dangote refinery IPO as ''hyped''. The largest refinery in Africa owned by one of the largest conglomerates in Nigeria!. Interesting! |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ghm: 1:56pm On Sep 09 |
Streetinvestor2:The last time I checked, the IPO is not compulsory. We don't have any legitimate reason to criticise it – we didn't raise any part of the $20B that cooked the meal. We were just invited to eat. We can either take whatever they say is on the menu or quietly pass. In things like this, there's no monopoly of thought. If your concerns are valid, others will see it that way too. And ultimately, the performance of the IPO and the stock after listing will make the statement for itself. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:08pm On Sep 09 |
The massive fall in prices at this time is adding to potential investors' frustration with Dangote's refinery IPO. A lot of investors had probably planned to sell some of their shares to buy the IPO. But with this intense price losses, it becomes like a double whammy - selling at a loss (or reduced price) and buying at an expensive price |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ppogba: 2:08pm On Sep 09 |
ghm:It is because you don't know that some have the monopoly of knowledge on every mattter on this investment side of Nairaland. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:09pm On Sep 09 |
ppogba:Sarcasm! |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ghm: 2:13pm On Sep 09 |
📌 Why the NGX Sell-Off Is NOT Solely About the Dangote IPO 1. Profit-Taking Was Inevitable: The NGX had already delivered a 60%+ year-to-date return by May 2026. Investors who bought early had locked in massive gains and were naturally inclined to take profits. 2. Fixed-Income Rotation Is a Structural Force: Treasury bill yields remained above 18%, and a CBN OMO auction in June attracted N3.27 trillion in bids against a N600 billion offer at rates as high as 21.54%. Investors are moving capital to near-risk-free assets, not just to the IPO. 3. The FTSE Reclassification Is a Powerful Catalyst: Nigeria returns to Frontier Market status in FTSE Russell indexes on September 21, 2026—which is expected to trigger passive foreign inflows. On September 7, the NGX market cap actually crossed N160 trillion again, driven by large-cap names positioning for this event. 5. Selling Is a Reallocation, Not an Exit: Analysts confirm the 15:1 sell/buy ratio reflects portfolio repositioning—investors raising cash for the IPO, not abandoning equities. The IPO is a liquidity event, but it's a transfer of capital, not a collapse of confidence. 6. Multiple Catalysts at Once: The market was already volatile due to profit-taking, FTSE positioning, and fixed-income competition. The IPO accelerated the correction—it did not cause it. 💡 Bottom Line The sell-off was the intersection of multiple forces: 📉 A natural correction after a historic rally 🏦 A structural rotation toward high-yield fixed income 🌍 Positioning ahead of the FTSE reclassification 🏗️ Portfolio reallocation for the Dangote IPO The IPO was the most visible catalyst, but not the sole cause. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Monibabakan(m): 2:14pm On Sep 09*. Modified: 2:32pm On Sep 09 |
yMcy56:Let me share some information having gone through the propectus (draft): Pre-IPO Outstanding Shares -120,128,915,901 2026 H1 EPS - N20.87 2026 H1 Annualized EPS - N41.74 Annualized P/E ratio based on IPO Price of N525 - 12.58 BVPS - 122.19 PBVPS - 4.30 The experts in the house can also share theirs. The above not to be take as a financial advice, due diligence advised. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by deathwing(m): 2:15pm On Sep 09 |
Been selling off a position to accumulate more GTCO/MTN/TIP since Monday but my position just entered loss today after I managed to offload only about 70%. Trying to decide if I should just let go of everything like that since I see more upside in the aforementioned stocks mikeapollo: |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:17pm On Sep 09 |
Monibabakan:Please confirm: The 125.480769b shares. Is it pre-IPO or post-IPO |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 2:19pm On Sep 09 |
ghm:Just like u said it is not compulsory for anyone to participate. I have neither asked anyone not participate It is not equally compulsory for you to comment on my personal opinion. You could read and pass and make your own opinions separately. Now u are sounding like my opinion is your concern too |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 2:25pm On Sep 09 |
Monibabakan:How accurate are u with this figures. How did the OS go above 124 billion and some fraction How did the Annualised eps get to 41.74. It should be around #38 by my calculation Can the refinery grow it profits like 30-40% annually for the next 5 yrs.Is dividend payment achievable in the next one or two yr as the refinery needs fund for its next line of expansion to 1.4 million barrel target .They equally have huge debt to service or pay back Just making my on contribution |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Monibabakan(m): 2:26pm On Sep 09 |
mikeapollo:It is Pre-IPO as I stated in the post. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:28pm On Sep 09 |
Monibabakan:That means the post-IPO shares will be 129.5b+? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Monibabakan(m): 2:34pm On Sep 09 |
[quote author=mikeapollo post=140587426]Please confirm: It is 120,128,915,901 (modified in the post) |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:34pm On Sep 09 |
[quote author=Monibabakan post=140587580][/quote]okay |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ghm: 2:35pm On Sep 09 |
Streetinvestor2:To confess, I actually took your post as a personal concern and the reason for not letting it pass. Not letting it pass is not necessarily against you but to help those who are looking for genuine balanced information like myself. Your post is an emotionally charged rant disguised as financial critique. It demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of capital markets, makes unsupported claims about Dangote's character, and relies on logical fallacies rather than evidence. First, the criticism of the share volume ("124 billion units is madness" is baseless—share count alone is meaningless without context of pricing, market capitalization, and the company's capital structure. Many successful companies issue large volumes to ensure liquidity and broad retail participation. The speculation about a future public offering ("PO" is just that—speculation—and not a valid basis for criticism.Second, the comparison to Space X is flawed because Space X is an american company listed in America with it's capitalization and sturcture, making any comparison of share structure irrelevant and misleading. Third, the accusation of greed for retaining 84% ownership ignores that founder-led IPOs typically retain majority control to maintain strategic direction and governance stability. This is standard practice globally, not evidence of bad faith. Fourth, the dismissal of Dangote's "national asset" statement misrepresents his point—calling the refinery a national asset refers to its strategic economic importance, not its ownership structure. There is no contradiction between private ownership and national significance. Fifth, the claim that Dangote "just needs Nigerians to make his voice loud" is an unsubstantiated accusation with no evidence. It assumes bad faith and political manipulation without proof. Sixth, the demand for 50/50 ownership is arbitrary and unrealistic. It disregards the billions of dollars Dangote and his partners invested, the lenders who took risk, and the basic principle that equity belongs to those who funded and built the project. No one who did not contribute capital has a legitimate claim to dictate ownership terms. Finally, structurally, the post is a disorganized block of text with poor grammar, run-on sentences, and unclear arguments. It jumps from topic to topic without a coherent thread, making it difficult to follow or take seriously. In short: the post is emotionally driven, factually weak, logically inconsistent, and structurally poor. It offers no data, no market analysis, and no credible alternative—just outrage dressed up as critique. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jonnysessy(m): 2:37pm On Sep 09 |
ppogba: ; |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:43pm On Sep 09 |
ghm:Eiii...see grammar and construction! This why I always blame Kabiru at Ayetoro village for always taking me along to hunt for rabbits in the bush instead of allowing me go to school to learn the English language very well. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 2:50pm On Sep 09 |
ghm:Now I get your position. Your position is personally based on the moniker so I didn't bother reading the remaining trash you wrote. Your type is never in any position and will never be in any position to educate me on the business of stock market..go and verify. Next time you see my post concerning stocks or any company it will be st.upid of you to quote it.Now get lost from my mention You can come over to political thread whr your useless opinion will be a waste of time too.As it is obvious whr your anger developed.and linked On a brighter part of me.Which is my political stand.Obi will make ngx a better place for Nigerians and check mate the corruption by some of the ceo of this listed company. I am happy he equally worked at SEC at a time |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Krisuba: 2:54pm On Sep 09 |
Agbalowomeri:Nawaooooo... Oga Agba u forgot to tell JANET to Call before coming now see wetin u don cause!! Blood every corner |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ghm: 3:03pm On Sep 09 |
Streetinvestor2:Good. Next time, please post like the pro that you are. I was referring to the actual content of the post – I really don't check who posts what. I just read and respond to the content. I appreciate you! |
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is baseless—share count alone is meaningless without context of pricing, market capitalization, and the company's capital structure. Many successful companies issue large volumes to ensure liquidity and broad retail participation. The speculation about a future public offering ("PO"