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9jatriot:
Always lying while doing your twists and turns.
You’ve shifted from your original lie—that the man claimed there was no engineering design for the project—to now talking about the national budget. What’s the correlation? That was your first post on this subject, and you clearly lied that he said there was no engineering design for the project. Now that you’ve been caught with your hand in the cookie jar of misinformation, you’re trying to wriggle out with your leg.
Mr. Mike Conjunctivitis, you lie too much.

mikeapollo:
There is no single engineering design for the project. It is a FACT!
You don't know the correlation?
A comprehensive[b]engineering design[/b] should have captured the full scope of the project; and the costing. The costing determines the total amount to be be spent, which will then be split into what can be accommodated annually in the national budget over the lifetime of the project.
Any amount to be spent in a year should have been captured in the national budget.
That is the correlation between engineering design, costing and the national budget (as far as the project is concerned)
There is no lie in what I said.

This is not the first time a major road is being built in Nigeria, for God's sakke

mikeapollo:
There is no single engineering design for the project. It is a FACT!
You don't know the correlation?
A comprehensive[b]engineering design[/b] should have captured the full scope of the project; and the costing. The costing determines the total amount to be be spent, which will then be split into what can be accommodated annually in the national budget over the lifetime of the project.
Any amount to be spent in a year should have been captured in the national budget.
That is the correlation between engineering design, costing and the national budget (as far as the project is concerned)
There is no lie in what I said.

This is not the first time a major road is being built in Nigeria, for God's sakke

mikeapollo:
There is no single engineering design for the project. It is a FACT!
You don't know the correlation?
A comprehensive[b]engineering design[/b] should have captured the full scope of the project; and the costing. The costing determines the total amount to be be spent, which will then be split into what can be accommodated annually in the national budget over the lifetime of the project.
Any amount to be spent in a year should have been captured in the national budget.
That is the correlation between engineering design, costing and the national budget (as far as the project is concerned)
There is no lie in what I said.

This is not the first time a major road is being built in Nigeria, for God's sake

mikeapollo:
There is no single engineering design for the project. It is a FACT!
You don't know the correlation?
A comprehensive[b]engineering design[/b] should have captured the full scope of the project; and the costing. The costing determines the total amount to be be spent, which will then be split into what can be accommodated annually in the national budget over the lifetime of the project.
Any amount to be spent in a year should have been captured in the national budget.
That is the correlation between engineering design, costing and the national budget (as far as the project is concerned)
There is no lie in what I said.

This is not the first time a major road is being built in Nigeria, for God's sake

GeneralDae:
There is no single engineering design simply means: We don’t have a single design encompassing the entire project at once but we present the designs by sections. This was my first understanding when I read even just the headline, I don’t know how you are interpreting it.
If you want to get design for the entire project at the beginning, you may spend a lot of time on design when you could easily begin and close off m the Lagos to Ondo axis which are less challenging.

Agbalowomeri:
The honourable thing to do is to accept that you misunderstood him. There are even road projects with different sections that are awarded to different contractors. Do you expect to have one single design and costings?

mikeapollo:
As usual! Defending the indefensible!
So you think different contractors can just go to the site to build whatever they like? There is an overall engineering design from the beginning so that the total costs, scope, etc is known before each contractor is asked to do their section(s).
The overall engineering design is the Master plan design that guides how the project should proceed. Not just anyhow

faoogoke:
It is simple. They want to see everything and everyone there and listen to every conversation there.

That is why they are building a Consolate there.

mikeapollo:
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Theoretically speaking, you may sound correct. But that is where the problem is coming from.
It is better to do the design for the entire project first; and have a complete picture of all the potential issues, challenges, requirements, costs etc.
There is no need to rush if the goal is to serve the nation because any other govt can also come and continue even if this govt is unable to finish it.

The absence of a comprehensive design (before the award of the project), is why they are now trying to adjust the route as a result of difficult terrain. This would have been discovered and addressed at the the design stage.
Now, what they doing is to get onto the site, do a design for 45-50km and build. Then they do another design for the next section 40-50km and build. So they are doing piecemeal design and build. This creates huge problems and makes the project cost, timeline, etc. unpredictable.

mikeapollo:
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Theoretically speaking, you may sound correct. But that is where the problem is coming from.
It is better to do the design for the entire project first; and have a complete picture of all the potential issues, challenges, requirements, costs etc.
There is no need to rush if the goal is to serve the nation because any other govt can also come and continue even if this govt is unable to finish it.

The absence of a comprehensive design (before the award of the project), is why they are now trying to adjust the route as a result of difficult terrain. This would have been discovered and addressed at the the design stage.
Now, what they doing is to get onto the site, do a design for 45-50km and build. Then they do another design for the next section 40-50km and build. So they are doing piecemeal design and build. This creates huge problems and makes the project cost, timeline, etc. unpredictable.

Agbalowomeri:
So na the government go give the contractors designs and costs?

Streetinvestor2:
I hate him as a person because he lacks integrity and will do same for anyone in the same class
The most important is I hate him because he has failed Nigerians.

It was posted by nairametrics as unverified news.If it becomes verified will your position change. Or as long as it has to do with BAT is will always be right and someone else fault

GeneralDae:
We all know the biggest problem with the coastal road is not at the South West terrain but that Bayelsa Delta Edo Ondo axis. You do the design for the Lagos axis and you start. The Lagos - Ogun axis is afterall the most economically important.

9jatriot:
I don’t know why you’re all allowing him to twist and turn away from his original argument. The question remains simple: why did he watch a video of what a man clearly said, and then lie that he said something else?

All these new arguments are completely detached from where he started. This is his established pattern. I remember one time how he once told a lie about tax; the moment he was caught, he immediately pivoted to filtering appointees from one particular tribe and shifted the entire argument to that, simply because his first lie had been exposed.
When dealing with that guy, the rule is this: once you catch him in a lie, press him hard on it—and never let him change the topic to an adjacent one.

vacanci:
It has nothing to do with BAT. You only just brought him into the narrative.
If the economy improves, BAT is manipulating it. If it goes down, BAT is responsible.
Even US stocks that has been bleeding, BAT is responsible
The protest in France is also caused by BAT.
The global crude oil price uptick was caused by BAT.
BAT here and there. Even in dreams, BAT

No just go develop high blood pressure because he will remain in all your narratives till 2031

9jatriot:
I don’t know why you’re all allowing him to twist and turn away from his original argument. The question remains simple: why did he watch a video of what a man clearly said, and then lie that he said something else?

All these new arguments are completely detached from where he started. This is his established pattern. I remember one time how he once told a lie about tax; the moment he was caught, he immediately pivoted to filtering appointees from one particular tribe and shifted the entire argument to that, simply because his first lie had been exposed.
When dealing with that guy, the rule is this: once you catch him in a lie, press him hard on it—and never let him change the topic to an adjacent one.

Itzlinda:
APC National youth leader casually shares 7 number 2026 prado jeep worth over 1 billion naira now to his friends like it's souvenirs.

For the first time I'll have to agree with streetinvestor2 that the kind of looting going on under this government is unprecedented

ayobama1:
If you are not seated in your preferred stocks this week, na you know wetin you find come here. You will be better off being on the streets shouting hunger.

9jatriot:
I don’t know why you’re all allowing him to twist and turn away from his original argument. The question remains simple: why did he watch a video of what a man clearly said, and then lie that he said something else?

All these new arguments are completely detached from where he started. This is his established pattern. I remember one time how he once told a lie about tax; the moment he was caught, he immediately pivoted to filtering appointees from one particular tribe and shifted the entire argument to that, simply because his first lie had been exposed.
When dealing with that guy, the rule is this: once you catch him in a lie, press him hard on it—and never let him change the topic to an adjacent one.

Agbalowomeri:
MikeApollo s'ongbon? No dey lie again
Or accept that you misfired

ayobama1:
Your criticism is mostly born out of ignorance and your unyielding belief that you are always right, even in conversations where you have no single evidence different from what the opposition disseminate on social media.

I watched the interview when the anchor mentioned the absence of the EIA Report and when the Minister responded that Arise TV has a copy of the report, the anchor couldn't controvert him. This shows that even the media is not diligent due to their partisanship.

The gazette is a publicly available document. The EIA report is publicly available. The coastal highway is not hidden. The media would rather feed into the mischievous narratives of the opposition rather than educating the public with the right information.

And I ask again, why is the scrutiny only about the Lagos Calabar Coastal Highway, why not Lagos Sokoto highway 😑

mikeapollo:
There Is No Single Engineering Design for Lagos- Calabar Expressway - Umahi

https://www.nairaland.com/8770843/lagos-calabar-highway-no-single-engineering


Where are the people arguing when I said this a few days ago?

mikeapollo:
Which lie? And which 'tax'' story are you talking about?
I challenge you now: pull out the story or post where you claimed I lied about tax!
And also pull out the story or post where you claimed I lied that Lagos-Calabar Expressway has no single engineering design!
I challenge you now!

How can you accuse me of lying when I provided the link to a story carried by Arise TV and published by Punch Newspapers?
Once again, Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway Ha No Single Engineering Design - Umahi-----is this what makes you angry and sad?