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@blendy am sorry I have to be direct here, between olive branch and georges which wld u refer ppl to, I mean which of thses two can u vouch for anyday? I have been doing a whole lot of googling wanting to knw where to go, pls I need a response to this questn..thank u

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Thank u. Please do you know their prize and success rate for ICSI. God bls u.

DIFF is good though the cost is on the higher side compared to other clinics I ve heard of,I don't know the cost of ICSI,but IVF registration,investigation,drugs,procedure etc is between 1.7m and 1.9m depending on the age,investigation for both couples and donor eggs if need be are all inclusive.from my findings of other centre through pple that have gone round I found out that Diff goes extra mile to get their success rate of up to 60%. For example we were 101 client in the Dec batch,58 clients got bfp with about 53 successful deliveries including quadruplets and triplets, everyone in the batch had since delivered including me who had my baby at 34 weeks in July

They are both good as they use same building, procedures, embryologists etc. But personally, I'll recommend olive branch any day. Olive branch is just into ivf alone while Georges is a full functional hospital so there's divided attention as in u may see a Dr today and ur next visit might be MD as in Dr Iketubosun and the other visit a medical officer unlike Dr Emeka who deals with all his patients alone on a one on one basis. and if u chose to use Georges for antenatal and delivery, Dr Emeka will still assist u cos he still sees u as his patient. In my own case he was even the one who delivered my babies and I remembered a nairalander was with him the day I delivered. He told her to hang on that he needs to go and deliver his twins upstairs and when she heard I delivered same day, she sent me an email asking if I was the one Emeka was refering to. That is the kind of interest he has in all his patients. Those who have used him before can agree with me that am not just over hyping his genuine concern for all his patients.

Prettyrose when u desperately need somethg, u won't see money as a barrier at all. If I was very broke n needed to sell our house to have a child, my Sister I for gladly do am without looking back. Nothing can be compared to the joy of motherhood. No amount is too much to purchase the cry of ur baby most especially when u can afford it. What is heavy gold and tear rubber cars to a woman whose heart is broken from inability to conceive? Leave gist abeg. As my boys dey represent so, I no even wan remember how much I spend to bring pikin com this world.

@blendy dats sooooooo true,if one can afford to travel on vacation to diffrent countries,den wat wont u spend ur life savin to get a child,in ur case u where xceptionally lucky,two boys,wow nice,a lil question here,r ivf twinnies compulsorily identical?can u hv diffrent sex?

@prettyrose,i dnt understand plz,u mean d baby had no stomach?hw cud dat be?well some medications r a no no durin pregnancy such medications r called teratogens,dey cause birth defect n deformities,druds lik isotretinoin,vitamin A,asprin nd some antibiotics,even clomid,bt in a bid to get d best for lo we over do finz,once ur doctor starts to huddle up strange named drugs,be careful,most come frm new drug companies who r trin out deir production,pls dnt object,or else ur doc wil see u as a difficult patient,jus go home n read up reviews bout d drug,write down ur point n discuss very politely wit ur doc,say ur views on it nd wait 4 him to explain,u r nt a doc so u may nt knw or rada understand bt make sure b4 u liv his office u r completely satisfied wit his xplanation n remind him wit a smile dat if u hv further questions u'd stil get bk to him.he wil b more dan ready n happi to assist wit wateva b ur questions

@blendy thank u so much for ur prompt response and for always being dere for virtually every1 on dis forum,may God reward u and watch over ur children ijmn,u wld nt sorrow ova dem,u have known dere beginings u wld neva knw dere end ijmn..am very grateful,may we all have the cause to be celebrate jst like u,one more thing,what abt d price plss,I mean which of these two is less expensive?

Honestly I dont know the price of Georges o, maybe you'll ask Lify on the IVF forum as she used them recently but Dr Emeka charges N950k for procedure and drugs and N50k extra for tests and investigations. Depending on ur bargaining power, u could get a discount of 5-10% especially if u mention nairaland and beg him very well. Meanwhile u cod also go with ur recent test results so you dont have to repeat them and save ur 50k. He is kind enough to accept tests from other labs/clinic so far they are recent. All the best.

I think the cost with Dr Emeka also depends on individual case,I say this bicos I've sent client there from Benin due to my interaction with him through mail and what I've read of Him on this forum she paid not less than 1.2m at first attempt in April 2013 she is on 2nd attempt now I don't know how much she is paying. But just as Blendy said no amount is too much to spend if one can raise the money afterall many of us spend money on non essentials like gold,etc,these are things that add little or no value to our lives compared to children. But for those who can not afford the money pls don't give up,it is not the end of life,God is faithful He sees your plight and in due time He will gladden your heart.But I will not buy someone else child in the name of herbal pregnancy which is the order of the day in some towns like Enugu and Portharcourt these are done out of despiracy. I pray God will answer everyone in Jesus name

His price is actually 950k except ur friend used donor eggs which she might not want to disclose to u. I've also sent a friend who he charged 1.2m and she called me on fon to complain about the price and when I called him in anger that shey his price is 950k, why is he looking at faces and giving some people high price. He just kept saying her case was different and refused to tell what was different about her case. When I started asking my friend plenty questions as to why her case was different from others, she then opened up that she will be using donor eggs. Luckily for the lady she got pregnant at first attempt and didn't have to go there again. On a good day his normal ivf/icsi is 950k, registration/consultation 25k or so (not too sure cos during our time na free consultation), invstigation/tests 50-70k.

Faith2012, one lesson I've learnt in life is that , its not too cool for a woman who has given birth to advise another woman who is still waiting to consider adoption. Cos it will be like u have ur own so its easy for u to say. Someone posted somethg on adoption on the ivf thread and that statement caused a lot of tension and throwing of e-insults last yr. From experience, most waiting couples know about adoption as an option already. So my sister, since we didn't adopt, the best we can do is to encourage others to try for their own and let those who adopted com and advise them on adoption. One love!

Honestly I look forward to reading one thing or the other frm blendy, more grease to ur elbow my sista, I have been able to talk to dr emeka infact he called bak nt quite long to tell me he sent me a questionnaire that I shd check ma box, wish all drs wld be like him, the world wld have been a better place, I bless d day I stumbled on dis forum, and many thanks to kinnd hearted ppl who ainint tired of answeing questns...

Blendy77: Honestly I dont know the price of Georges o, maybe you'll ask Lify on the IVF forum as she used them recently but Dr Emeka charges N950k for procedure and drugs and N50k extra for tests and investigations. Depending on ur bargaining power, u could get a discount of 5-10% especially if u mention nairaland and beg him very well. Meanwhile u cod also go with ur recent test results so you dont have to repeat them and save ur 50k. He is kind enough to accept tests from other labs/clinic so far they are recent. All the best.

Madam, is Dr Emeka into TESE/ICSI for men with sperms issue. thanks

Yes he is. Icsi is normal pricing wt ivf but Tese might be more expensive. You can call and ask him all ur questions directly. Dr Emeka 08032011536

Honeypie24, just seeing ur post. Most ivf twins are hardly identical becos different eggs are transferred with its own xteristics. So they are like any other babies you would have at seperate births (in normal conception) except of course an embryo splits into 2 babies and the twins share same placenta then they can be identical. In my own case my first boy is my photocopy while his brother is my hubby's photocopy but they both hav my colour as am light skinned and hubby is dark.
Its very common to have boy/girl and boy/boy combination at birth but girl/girl is not as common as these other mixtures cos during selection of embies after fertilization, the embryologists ensures the best embies are transfered and these best embies turn out to be the fastest embies which are able to divided with less fragments and in most cases, these turn out to be boys. I also discovered iui produce more of girls than ivf since u just inject the man's fluid into the woman with no option of seperating very active embies from the rest and because the xx chromosomes stays longer in the woman's body than the xy, it most likely will wait and fertilize any egg in sight especially if fertilization does not take place after the first 2days of insemination.

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I can't categorically say grade A means boy o! But the less fragments embies have during cell division, the better the grade. Dr Emeka and 800k? Well, call him and use ur woman power, e fit work. U know women and wayo forming of tears when we want something. Just try ur luck, u never can tell. Another good clinic u cod use if u're trying to cut costs is regenesis since its just 350 for ivf excluding drugs. Only when the guy mention donor sperm, do like say u nor hear.

Hello blessed mommies and papas in the house.am wishing us all a blessed day. Blenddy, how r the blessed children. God continues to keep and uphold them o.@ everyone thinking of doing one procedure or the other, may God direct us to the right place o.

Thanks Blendy

Hello everyone and I hope we are all enjoying the weekend,@blendy am glad to let u kbow that I would be meeting up wit Dr Emeka after I completed the questionnaire he sent to me, I am asked to come with the results of the tests my hubby and I did at omni which came out all perfect,as I would be registering wit Olivebranch during the wk, but there is a queation I wld like to ask am 27, I wld be 28 in few months, does olivebranch accept egg donation as that could reduce the cost of my procedure, I intend doing ivf after 4dose of clomid and hcg injection, I do nt want to wait till am older bfore seeking for solutns as my hubby is in his early 40s....thanks

I think they do. Its called egg sharing. Ur eggs will be given to someone who needs donor eggs and the person pays part of the cost of your procedure. Discuss wt Dr Emeka and he will tell u the total amount u're likely to save from it. From experience sha, it might not be much. These fertility Drs are all very greedy in naija so even when they charge like 250-300k for using donor eggs on a patient, the donator is never given more than 150k so don't expect much. Atimes a donor's eggs are even shared amongst 2-3 different patients yet they still pay the donators peanuts. Discuss with him sha and hear him out. It is well.

@ Blendy77 Is there a difference btw egg donor and egg sharing? In egg donor, does the recipient owns all the eggs retrieved from the egg donor or only the once that will be transferred?

The difference btw egg donor and egg sharing is that in egg donors, a donor is paid for the sole purpose of producing eggs just for those who need it without partaking in the transfer of embies into her womb while egg sharing, a woman is also partaking in the transfer of embryos back into her womb. That is to say, egg donors do not want pregnancy, they just want to sell their eggs but egg sharing means the woman also want to get pregnant but also want to give out part of the eggs that will be retrieved due to one reason or the other. The commonest reason is reduction of ivf cost. In sharing, the eggs are shared immediately after retrieval and both women's husband's sperm is used to inject the shared eggs allocated to both of them after which everyone will go home to await the news of number of eggs that got fertilized.
In the case of egg donor, its not all the time a recipient gets all the eggs except of course its the recipient that brought the donor herself. Most times, a donor's eggs is shared amongst 2-3 recipients to maximize profit. I got to know this when one of my senior friends did ivf in one popular ivf clinic inside Dolphin estate. She claimed the owner left Bridge to Rodding and opened her own place. The lady paid extra 350k to use donor eggs and just before transfer she insisted on seeing the embies and discovered they were going to transfer just one embie that was not even a grade A. Their explaination was that the donor didn't produce much eggs and she made lots of trouble wt them so they pleaded with her to be patient, that another retrieval from another donor will be done same day, that she will be given 3 eggs from whatever the donor produced. she then called me to to seek my opinion of the whole story. I told her to cancel the procedure n request for a refund afterall, a donor is supposed to be young and they must have done amH to be sure of her reserve before the process so they are not being honest with her cos they obviously would have shared the eggs with other people tht is why they want her to wait for another retrieval. I then called all the fert Drs I've worked with and they confirmed my suspicions. The woman and her husband decided to wait for the new donor and 3 embies were gotten and later transfered to her but then she got a bfn. Don't know if it was the plenty wahala and agitation and quarreling that gave her a bfn cos most recipients of donors tend to have higher bfps than those whose eggs were used. Maybe because the body of the recipient has not been subjected to all the rigors of many injection and egg collection so the womb is actually relaxed compared to you that went through all that stress and might even still be bleeding or discharging fluid from egg collection as at the time of embryo transfer. All these Drs sha, profit maximization is their major aim b4 protecting the interest of the patient. That is why those who get pregnant naturally without going thru all these stress we face should just be thanking God everyday because they don't know the stress He has saved them from passing thru to bring a child into this world..

Pls in your endevours for ivf,pls do not try to stop at MIDLAND hospital at ilorin Dr jimoh ,i as once duped by him on ivf... He ll only add salt to your wound[color=#770077][/color]

Motolank: Pls in your endevours for ivf,pls do not try to stop at MIDLAND hospital at ilorin Dr jimoh ,i as once duped by him on ivf... He ll only add salt to your wound[color=#770077][/color]

What's his first name? Is he tall and light skinned? What really happened?

Pls wat is bfn?jst curious

BFN - big fat negative ( referring to the result of a pregnancy test)

BFP - big fat positive

AF - aunty flow - menstrual flow

Do you know?

If you and your partner are having trouble conceiving, and his conventional sperm parameters — sperm count, motility (speed) and morphology (shape) — are normal, the problem could still be because of sperm. Talk to your us about screening the sperm for sperm DNA fragmentation, and this may give you more insight into why you are not getting pregnant. A high level of DNA fragmentation may compromise the possibility of a successful pregnancy no matter what fertility treatment is used. DNA fragmentation occurs when there is an alteration to the bases or a physical break in one or both of the DNA strands."Sperm DNA fragmentation is the physical breaking of one or both DNA strands in sperm chromosomes, if this occurs within a gene in a sperm that fertilized the egg, the consequence may be the death of the resulting embryo or miscarriage."
Do you know?
That sperm DNA fragmentation levels are on the rise due to increased reproductive toxicants in our environment .Dramatic cases are those working with pesticides and heavy metals like lead.In cities with high levels of air and water pollution caused by oil or industrial sources, a documentation of infertility and miscarriages shows that the levels of sperm DNA fragmentation have been very high."
A 2008 report practice committee for the American Society for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM) states that while currently routine DNA integrity testing in the evaluation of infertility is not done, sperm DNA damage is more common in infertile men and may affect reproductive outcomes in selected couples, including those with recurrent spontaneous miscarriage or idiopathic (unexplained) infertility.
Can you test for sperm DNA fragmentation in Nigeria?
Yes.
Testing for sperm DNA fragmentation is similar to the regular method of semen analysis at a fertility clinic. A semen sample can be obtained and sent to Androcare laboratories and Cryobank for sperm DNA fragmentation test. The test measures the presence of DNA strand breaks and the percentage of sperm with abnormal proteins that inhibit pregnancy success. The test determines the percentage of sperm with fragmented DNA and the degree of DNA damage and provides a DNA Fragmentation Index (DFI) score to indicate the likelihood of sperm contributing to infertility problems. The following scores indicate fertility potential for natural conception and intrauterine insemination:
Less than or equal to 15 percent DFI: Excellent to Good fertility potential
15 percent to 25 percent DFI: Good to Fair fertility potential
Greater than 25 percent DFI: Fair to Poor fertility potential
High DFI values have been shown to reduce the efficacy of intra-uterine insemination (IUI) from 16% to 4%, When facing an DFI above the 30% threshold, it is therefore recommended that clinicians avoid unnecessary IUI cycles

Can You Treat Sperm DNA Fragmentation?
Keep the testes cool — no hot tubs or long hot baths, and wear boxer shorts Stop smoking. Eat a diet rich in antioxidants because oxidative stress is the primary culprit for breaking DNA. Avoid some medications such as cortisone and SSRIs. Get examined for urogenital infections. Eat a healthy diet full of colorful fruits and vegetables. Ask your doctor about supplementary vitamins and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E, co-enzyme Q-10 and supplements containing carnitine.

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please people can anybody help me with details on hcg trigger shots and egg collection? I need to know from people who have experienced them. I might be having my trigger shot tommorrow evening and i heard it can be very painful. Bt right now i think i will welcome it cos i want to be done with this daily injection ish.
What about egg collection? How is it after the procedure? Did you feel any discomfort after it? I am just overly concerned and scared. I know i will be knocked out and dts what scares me the most. Please answers will be most welcome.

mrsraiy: please people can anybody help me with details on hcg trigger shots and egg collection? I need to know from people who have experienced them. I might be having my trigger shot tommorrow evening and i heard it can be very painful. Bt right now i think i will welcome it cos i want to be done with this daily injection ish.
What about egg collection? How is it after the procedure? Did you feel any discomfort after it? I am just overly concerned and scared. I know i will be knocked out and dts what scares me the most. Please answers will be most welcome.

There's absolutely no difference between the normal fsh injection you've been taking and hcg trigger injection. Its the same thg my Sister. About egg collection, u shouldn't feel much discomfort if u're not hyperstimulated. The truth is u'll feel cramps which might get a little worse after transfer. The good news is that the thought of ur babies trying to settle 'in there' will make the pains bearable.

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I'm new here, pls is anybody in d house aware of ivf centre in Ilesha?

Pls what does Tese mean