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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Eden007(m): 3:30pm On Oct 04, 2014
I read people comment that keshi has provided results. Please what results are we talking about here? Football is rated on current form. In the last 10games keshi has coached, how many victories has the super eagles recorded??

I should also remind us that SIA1 was not the reason super eagles failed to qualify for afcon2012, it was eguavon! He lost to guinea in a crucial qualifying match. SIA1 even managed to cut that gap to same points, but we lost out on head to head rule.

Let me also remind you guys that nff couldn't inform the super eagles bench that at 2-1 with Libya playing goalless in their match, we would've qualified as best losers. Nff didn't even know that, SIA1 had to push the boys forward for the 'unwanted' 3rd goal which made us vulnerable to counter attack.
I said it to whoever cared to hear, keshi never overcame a though opposition apart from overrated ivory-coast. We won a nations cup that was less-competitive with a very average performance, yet we keep living in that 2yrs after.

Keshi failed at confederation's cup, failed at word cup! Please don't tell me qualifying in a group of Iran,Bosnia as second is an achievement worth mentioning. Those two teams were debutant at the world cup just after a first world cup win.
Keshi showed his tactical ineptitude in our game against France.

Congo brazaville with non-pro footballers disgraced us here in Nigeria not because the players were better but because their coach outshined ours.

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by hunter21(m): 3:36pm On Oct 04, 2014
a combo of keshi and siasia as technical adviser would yield wonderfull results
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Nobody: 3:36pm On Oct 04, 2014
Both keshi and siasia are failures !!!!!!
Nigerians has 4gotten so soon aw we prayed Siasia from our national team.

NFF should sort for some one technically sound.

A foreign coach is not a bad idea.
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by bdchange(m): 3:37pm On Oct 04, 2014
As lovely as you think ur stats is, so also is d flaw. The difference between keshi and siasia is the word 'success'. Which apparently one has and the other did not.

If you tag what keshi has achieved so far btw 2 yrs as a failure. that means u av to find or search for a worst word to describe siasia.

pls stop comparing both. Even if keshi shud be sack today, NFF wont be so foolish to bring back siasia..

Note: Siasia is good no doubt but half bread is better than puff - puff. if u understand d lyrics. lolz
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by sholaybest44(m): 3:39pm On Oct 04, 2014
If Keshi wish to work harder let him stay, otherwise let Siasia in.
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by ola20ng(m): 3:43pm On Oct 04, 2014
those who depend mainly on luck will go for keshi, but those who want good and attractive football will go for siasia. I go for siasia

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Punstar: 3:43pm On Oct 04, 2014
Both of them got Ego issues
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by viczing(m): 3:45pm On Oct 04, 2014
chucky234:
Siasia's team to the U20 World cup in Egypt was the worst U20 team Nigeria ever put together, Samson is overrated.

Nigga shushhh ur talking gibberish
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by bdchange(m): 3:46pm On Oct 04, 2014
Eden007:
I read people comment that keshi has provided results. Please what results are we talking about here? Football is rated on current form. In the last 10games keshi has coached, how many victories has the super eagles recorded??

I should also remind us that SIA1 was not the reason super eagles failed to qualify for afcon2012, it was eguavon! He lost to guinea in a crucial qualifying match. SIA1 even managed to cut that gap to same points, but we lost out on head to head rule.

Let me also remind you guys that nff couldn't inform the super eagles bench that at 2-1 with Libya playing goalless in their match, we would've qualified as best losers. Nff didn't even know that, SIA1 had to push the boys forward for the 'unwanted' 3rd goal which made us vulnerable to counter attack.
I said it to whoever cared to hear, keshi never overcame a though opposition apart from overrated ivory-coast. We won a nations cup that was less-competitive with a very average performance, yet we keep living in that 2yrs after.

Keshi failed at confederation's cup, failed at word cup! Please don't tell me qualifying in a group of Iran,Bosnia as second is an achievement worth mentioning. Those two teams were debutant at the world cup just after a first world cup win.
Keshi showed his tactical ineptitude in our game against France.

Congo brazaville with non-pro footballers disgraced us here in Nigeria not because the players were better but because their coach outshined ours.


Pls can u tell me ur basis of success within the time frame keshi has worked? or u expect keshi to av won d world cup then u can say he is successfull.
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by HIPROFILE(m): 3:49pm On Oct 04, 2014
megacity:
The best news I have heard for sometime concerning Nigerian football is the report that Sampson Siasia is on the line to replace Keshi. Anyone that watched Siasia's teams to the U-20 world cup in 2005 and the Olympics in 2008 will understand how technically and tactically savvy he is as a coach. Siasia's Super Eagles also played with flair, created plenty scoring chances, scored plenty goals and infact never lost to any African opposition. Siasia's critics will say that he failed to quality Nigeria for the 2012 AFCON, the truth about that failure however is that it was not solely Siasia's doing. Ever before he became Super Eagles coach, a certain Austin Eguavoen already played and lost a crucial qualifying game in Guinea!

On the other hand, Keshi's Super Eagles has often looked bereft of any sound technical input from the bench. His team has found it difficult scoring goals and even clear-cut scoring chances have been hard to come by. To Keshi's credit, he did win the AFCON but even in that competition, his team as usual found it difficult to score goals even against the lowest teams. Keshi too has been fortunate with the fixtures. In the last round of the world cup qualifiers, his team was paired against the lowest ranked team that qualified for that round. Since qualifying for the world cup, Keshi's team has only managed to win one game in no less than ten games!



What is this @OP..... When would Nigerians learn to be patient? Kai I tire for unaoo


Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by gillz(m): 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2014
Amodu shuiabu is a bette manager for a senior national team than any Nigerian coach. A combination of Amodu and manu Garba, Amunike, ben iroha n Aloy Agu wld do better
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by karkel(m): 4:06pm On Oct 04, 2014
Emmysteve:
Why is Siasia still jobless? Not even coaching a NPFL side. Please don't compare Siasia with Keshi abeg.
was it not some few seconds ago people like nlanderZ were singing this man keshi as a God,blasphemy this same man that won afcon.lets watch out for the next drama
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Duru009(m): 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2014
I stil prefer keshi. If notkeshi. Pls get us a foreign coach. Sasia is gud but very corrupt. Click like now......
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by brixton: 4:20pm On Oct 04, 2014
Larow:
brazil recalled Dunga who was presumed to be a failure to replace scolari who once upon a time won for them the world cup. Why didn't u call that disrespect?


Dunga won 2007 copa America, 2009 confederations cup as well as led Brazil to 2010 quarter final

What is your definition of failure?
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Edmomd(m): 4:23pm On Oct 04, 2014
RoyalRoy:
Very nice write-up from the Op.


Technical ability of Siasia is way ahead of Keshi.
Only sentimental Nigerians will rate Keshi ahead of Sia-1
cool cool cool
What has the techncal ability of Arsene Got to do, compare to wining ability of Fergusson.

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by mrvictor: 4:23pm On Oct 04, 2014
SiaOne all the way!
Siasia much much better than Keshi and Amodu Shuaibu put together!
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Raiders: 4:26pm On Oct 04, 2014
obum88:

so, to make round of 16 is now an achievement? how mediocrity could eat up an average Nigeria!
yes. Kechi is the first and only African to ever reach the round of 16. Do you think its easy to coach a world cup team. Much less qualifying for the round of 16.
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by andyanders: 4:27pm On Oct 04, 2014
Keshi is the worst Coach EVER . Sisia is far more better and has more managerial skill over Keshi. Keshi has no managerial skills hence he is always having problems with his team.

Why must a coach have problems and cannot resolve it. Balatoli has been a very bad boy in his club team and country but his coaches has ever manged him.

I prefer Siasia to Keshi as Eagles Team Handler. Siasia is more disciplined than Keshi

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Oct 04, 2014
Emmysteve:
Why is Siasia still jobless? Not even coaching a NPFL side. Please don't compare Siasia with Keshi abeg.
if u were siasia, wud u stoop so low to coach a npl team Let's be realistic here, beside I rmbr siasia say he's taking a break from football, jst because keshi came in and won d nations cup doesn't mean he's d best, and am not saying siasia is d best eida nuffsaid
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by BabaO2: 4:31pm On Oct 04, 2014
Raiders:
you are the one with sentiments. What did Siasia achieved with super eagles. Can you compare Kechi achievements with Siasia? How many tournaments have Siasia won? How many teams have Siasia qualify to the world cup? Has Siasia taken a team to the round of 16 in a world cup? Has Siasia won the best coach in Africa award? Let the records speak for themselves

I disagree with you. Siasia got that job on merit and with the clamor of the people for him, but the power that be as usual in Nigeria was against him from day one, they were waiting for any slight slip/mistake to cut off his head, and it did happen.
Put the two statistics side by side and cancel out how many matches won/lost/drew by both, then you will ask questions by yourself why was Siasia got sacked.
We saw the brand of football Siasia played in 2005 in Holland, it was this brand that sold the likes of Mikel, Taiwo,Obasi etc,,,we were pleased in defeat against Argentina of Messi, just because of the brand of football played. Why cant we develop/have patience with this kind of tutor.
If we are not gullible, Keshi with due respect to him won the AFCON by luck. As a Nigerian with full of hope, I think Keshi should be given Technical Director postion, and Siasia as a Coach, it might be the winning magic for Nigeria. Siasia is far better than him when it comes to pattern of play, right substitution, timing etc...

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by Eden007(m): 4:35pm On Oct 04, 2014
bdchange:

Pls can u tell me ur basis of success within the time frame keshi has worked? or u expect keshi to av won d world cup then u can say he is successfull.
I won't argue that winning the nations cup trophy was a great relief to Nigerian football, but here in Nigeria we love football so much that we always ask for more.

To answer your question, these are the things I'd call success within the past 2years.
1. Qualifying to the semi-final of confederation's cup. Yes! We should've defeated Uruguay if we went to that tournaments with a good 23 players not just good 11players.

2. Integration of Nigerian players across the world in friendly games and giving everybody equal opportunity to fight for his shirt.

3. Increased Fifa ranking! Doesn't it baffle you that even the fact that we are African champions we find ourselves down the perking order?? It's simply because we've failed to win so many games under keshi! Too many draws.

4. Attacking fast flowing football! Yes! That's the trademark of Nigerian teams, that's why we are often the neutral's team. Unfortunately, under keshi this hasn't been the case. We've played boring and stiff football. Football is about scoring goals, if you don't create chances you don't score! We do appear clueless in matches with so many sideways passes between our defenders.

5. Selection of players based on current form as long as the person is eligible to play for Nigeria! Not because your wife slept with his brother you shouldn't call him into the team. The fact that he is not your friend does not mean he is not a professional. Under-keshi this hasn't been the case, he has completely ignored Nigerians that do very well with their teams.

6. Quarter-final ticket at worldcup! Yes! France was beatable!! Qualifying from that group was a sure-bet given the fact that we were gona play Argentina as the last game hopefully then we'd both qualify. Beating Iran or Bosnia was not to be a problem as African champions, yet we drew with Iran and narrowly won Bosnia. We had the best chance for Africa to reach semi-final. How I wish Algeria was in our group in place of us!!!

I can go on and on. Even at this moment, there's no cohesion on the field of play. It makes me sad that SIA1 took the super-eagles job when eguavon had fumbled. I wish he is given a fresh opportunity because in my opinion, he is miles better than keshi tactically.

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by MadCow1: 4:41pm On Oct 04, 2014
[b]I honestly prefer Siasia's style of play to that of Stephen Keshi. Unfortunately, Siasia's experince or lack thereof is the one reason Keshi would always stay ahead of him in the perking order. Whilst Keshi has qualified 2 African teams for the World Cup and led one to it where he even made the second round, Siasia has only ever managed 1 African team in his entire career and most of his time with the that country was spent managing the junior side.

I would However love to see a coaching crew for the National team that consists of;

1. Siasia as the Head Coach..

2. Oliseh as his Technical Adviser...

3. Ike Shorunmu as Goal Keeper Coach..


Keshi in my opinion is just one really lucky coach. His performance at the Nations Cup that he won was never convincing all the way to the very finals. Infact, the only match he played at that tournament that was worthy of mention was the game against the Ivorians.

I wish him more of that Nations Cup luck in his next matches as his job truly depends on how well he performs. His selections so far have been very questionable. He can no longer rely on the old excuse of re-building the team as he has been at this job for over 2 years and has had atleast 3 tournaments (Nations Cup, Confed Cup and the World Cup) with which to experiment and consolidate his team..



At this point, all I can be is a Fan and support the team no matter what.. [/b]
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by AspDrone(m): 4:41pm On Oct 04, 2014
I prefeR a GoAt to both of them....mtchewww
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by sarutobie(m): 4:41pm On Oct 04, 2014
BabaO2:


I disagree with you. Siasia got that job on merit and with the clamor of the people for him, but the power that be as usual in Nigeria was against him from day one, they were waiting for any slight slip/mistake to cut off his head, and it did happen.
Put the two statistics side by side and cancel out how many matches won/lost/drew by both, then you will ask questions by yourself why was Siasia got sacked.
We saw the brand of football Siasia played in 2005 in Holland, it was this brand that sold the likes of Mikel, Taiwo,Obasi etc,,,we were pleased in defeat against Argentina of Messi, just because of the brand of football played. Why cant we develop/have patience with this kind of tutor.
If we are not gullible, Keshi with due respect to him won the AFCON by luck. As a Nigerian with full of hope, I think Keshi should be given Technical Director postion, and Siasia as a Coach, it might be the winning magic for Nigeria. Siasia is far better than him when it comes to pattern of play, right substitution, timing etc...
keshi qualified togo to the world cup final for the first time in their history..won the nations cup for Nigeria in under two years as the coach and took us to the round of 16( after 16 years!!) when countries like italy, England, spain and to a lesser extent Cameroon, ivory coast and Ghana all failed to do so..oh! keshi was lucky and these "more qualified coaches" were unlucky right? you guys are an ungrateful bunch! for saying keshi accomplished all these by luck.

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by phreakabit(m): 4:42pm On Oct 04, 2014
[size=18pt]Sunday Oliseh![/size]
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by bayulll01(m): 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2014
the two are colossal failure

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by FANE4Naija: 4:49pm On Oct 04, 2014
Aystormz:


True that. Another thing working in Sia's favour here, I must say is his humility - The Bayelsa sweat merchant listens to constructive criticisms and gives room to change.
Somehow, I feel bad for how he's seen by the average pro-Keshi supporters. If only he hadn't allowed Osaze in to ruin that 2012 qualifications for him, perhaps Keshi wouldn't have been here in the first place....perhaps his career would've made him the toast of Nigerians today.
Exactly! You just got it head on. Osaze was the saboteur that cost Nigeria that Guinea match. And painfully, it was Nigerians that pushed Sia1 into re calling him when He didn't want to

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Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by skyeboy98(m): 5:01pm On Oct 04, 2014
Siasia E warrior at work,u go fear write up na
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by phreakabit(m): 5:03pm On Oct 04, 2014
bayulll01:
the two are colossal failure
That's what I am trying to say. Let's move forward Sunday Oliseh and Manu Garba partnership would be more than ideal. Let's play modern football founded on technicality and tactical brilliance. Keshi no get formation, Siasia was not serious about his job. Imagine a head coach saying him no no say na only draw we need to qualify.
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by ladodo: 5:06pm On Oct 04, 2014
Siasia is far beta
Re: Siasia Or Keshi: Who Do You Prefer? by bayulll01(m): 5:08pm On Oct 04, 2014
phreakabit:

That's what I am trying to say. Let's move forward Sunday Oliseh and Manu Garba partnership would be more than ideal. Let's play modern football founded on technicality and tactical brilliance. Keshi no get formation, Siasia was not serious about his job. Imagine a head coach saying him no no say na only draw we need to qualify.
and u think that one will happen in a country where majority are foolls,dont get ur expectation high bro,just take it the way its play,for me av learnt to .......

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