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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:32pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
Ozil naturally has the advantage of playing from the middle(forget wengers buffonery)

He decided some matches when he was at madrid and the earlier parts of last season.

Forget the fact that ozil tends to get tired easily the guy is a better player overall cmpared to nasri!
Last season, Ozil was Arsenal number 10 for the greater part while Nasril is a winger. So Ozil ought to have performed better if you want to use position as an excuse.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:36pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
Ohun wale ni mo'ngbo oooooo

Wale wale....ni mo fi gbera dede...
cheesy ......naso.com
u know how it is now, it is like......................
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 4:49pm On Oct 08, 2014
In what way did nasri perform better than ozil?
elampiro:
Last season, Ozil was Arsenal number 10 for the greater part while Nasril is a winger. So Ozil ought to have performed better if you want to use position as an excuse.
[quote author=elampiro post=26971383]* I am talking about EPL.
* Nasril has not played in Laliga before. The German team and Madrid are a different set up.
Agreed he hasn't played in laliga before..

But he was considered surplus to requirements in a french team that was much easier to break into than the star studded german team..he wasn't even considered as a replacement for ribery!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 4:50pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
one or two good games doesn't determine a player consistency does


I agree its a good price for a gamble buy like khedira.
The fact that those performances took place almost immediately after a lengthy spell on the sidelines, is worthy of mention. Vidal on the other hand hasn't looked his old self ever since chile rushed him back for the worldcup and there are already fears that he might not attain those heights again.

If we buy khedira for 15m and e "Lana", e no go too pain person. cheesy wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 4:51pm On Oct 08, 2014
Dadehmola:
The fact that those performances took place almost immediately after a lengthy spell on the sidelines, is worthy of mention. Vidal on the other hand hasn't looked his old self ever since chile rushed him back for the worldcup and there are already fears that he might not attain those heights again.

If we buy khedira for 15m and e "Lana", e no go too pain person. cheesy wink
All in all I pray we no go buy player wey go LANA...we don't want a torres twin in our team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 5:20pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
In what way did nasri perform better than ozil?

* I am talking about EPL.
* Nasril has not played in Laliga before. The German team and Madrid are a different set up.
Agreed he hasn't played in laliga before..

But he was considered surplus to requirements in a french team that was much easier to break into than the star studded german team..he wasn't even considered as a replacement for ribery!?
Was it strictly due to footballing reasons?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 5:33pm On Oct 08, 2014
Dadehmola:
Was it strictly due to footballing reasons?
But in actual fact the team can survive without him abi?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by igbsam(m): 6:26pm On Oct 08, 2014
Manchester United defender Paddy McNair, 19, has added to the Red Devils injury woes, after picking up a hamstring injury that will rule him out for three weeks.

Daily Mirror
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:32pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
In what way did nasri perform better than ozil?
How did ' passer' Ozil compared to Nasril in chances created? Ukwu!!!



Leave world cup out of this. He was dropped due to indiscipline.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
* At Madrid, Ozil created massive 24 CCC in 2012/13. Last season he created only 4. Club and league influence.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 7:45pm On Oct 08, 2014
elampiro:
How did ' passer' Ozil compared to Nasril in chances created? Ukwu!!!



Leave world cup out of this. He was dropped due to indiscipline.
In qualifiers for the world cup ozil topscored for germany with 11 goals explain that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 7:51pm On Oct 08, 2014
elampiro:
* At Madrid, Ozil created massive 24 CCC in 2012/13. Last season he created only 4. Club and league influence.
Stop being partisan

I know you to be very efficient in generating statistics.

Compare the overall statistics of ozils career with nasri's own.

Am waiting for you elampiro please be meticulate.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:55pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
In qualifiers for the world cup ozil topscored for germany with 11 goals explain that.
Lol. You are not armed.

Ozil is easily defendable but you don't just know how to go about it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 8:03pm On Oct 08, 2014
elampiro:
Lol. You are not armed.

Ozil is easily defendable but you don't just know how to go about it.
And so....

Please defend nasri

For the records in his last season in madrid ozil had


According to statistics ozils key passing is very strong.

Even his short passes are very accurate.

Forget the fact that he's out of form that's the consequence of reccurent injury issues.

Try and watch videos of ozils best moment you will be amazed.


Ozil and nasri are not even on the same wavelenght.

If ozil was a knight,nasri would be a lowly peasant!.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:20pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
And so....

Please defend nasri

For the records in his last season in madrid ozil had


According to statistics ozils key passing is very strong.

Even his short passes are very accurate.

Forget the fact that he's out of form that's the consequence of reccurent injury issues.

Try and watch videos of ozils best moment you will be amazed.


Ozil and nasri are not even on the same wavelenght.

If ozil was a knight,nasri would be a lowly peasant!.
Just forget it. Let's leave.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:03pm On Oct 08, 2014
i no know why una dey compare players up & down grin
this thread sef angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by shooowthem: 10:19pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
All in all I pray we no go buy player wey go LANA...we don't want a torres twin in our team.
Mk Coogar no catch u with did Torres talk ooo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 10:39pm On Oct 08, 2014
Angelo Henriquez called up
to Chile squad after scoring six goals in seven games

he has played thrice for chile and score 2times

chaii,see striker
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 10:55pm On Oct 08, 2014
shooowthem:
Mk Coogar no catch u with did Torres talk ooo
As how?

Torres' name will go down in history as one of the biggest flops of all time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 11:09pm On Oct 08, 2014
Odunharry:
Angelo Henriquez called up
to Chile squad after scoring six goals in seven games

he has played thrice for chile and score 2times

chaii,see striker
I heard one boy recently scored a hatrick for united u21...didn't quite catch his name.

If properly managed this youngs stars might move the club forward in the nearest future
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Brisingr(m): 11:19pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
As how?

Torres' name will go down in history as one of the biggest flops of all time.
biggest chelsea flop
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:28pm On Oct 08, 2014
mcfarlin:
I heard one boy recently scored a hatrick for united u21...didn't quite catch his name.

If properly managed this youngs stars might move the club forward in the nearest future
sure....his name is Will keane
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:36pm On Oct 08, 2014
Januzaj got a hattrick as well not too long ago
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by igbsam(m): 11:39pm On Oct 08, 2014
SailorXY:
i no know why una dey compare players up & down grin
this thread sef angry
The Thing tire me i swear. e don make me loose interest for this thread.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 12:02am On Oct 09, 2014
That's Elamps specialty.. remaining for him to bore us with unwanted stats from Whoscored and eplindex. angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:36am On Oct 09, 2014
Elampiro please compare and contrast Collins Ebitimi and Bright Omokaro cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:11am On Oct 09, 2014
afrodoc2:
Elampiro please compare and contrast Collins Ebitimi and Bright Omokaro cheesy
We were told that chances created is so important. They showed us Silva created every 25 mins while Hazard created every 31 mins.

* I wanted to know why Ozil a number 10 was behind Nasri a winger.

That post was just a trol and a trap for other things.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:25am On Oct 09, 2014
afrodoc2:
Elampiro please compare and contrast Collins Ebitimi and Bright Omokaro cheesy
grin grin grin

Barbed Wired vs 10/10
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tonididdy(m): 9:46am On Oct 09, 2014
BIG utd blow as CR7 return to oldtrafford is ''IMpossible''....says super agent Jorge mendes

cr7 says he's happy at Madrid and is not considering a move back to the old giants any time soon.






sorry UTD I saw this coming after that shameful plane flew over the bernabeau...


ronaldo is a business man and so is lampard and drogba and fabregas.


move on OK...stop the daydreaming and hypocritic support of RM


WE didn't suddenly start watching and supporting the Turkish league since drogba left for galatasarey...we moved on, ''that's what real blue club fans are made of''
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 10:03am On Oct 09, 2014
tonididdy:
BIG utd blow as CR7 return to oldtrafford is ''IMpossible''....says super agent Jorge mendes

cr7 says he's happy at Madrid and is not considering a move back to the old giants any time soon.






sorry UTD I saw this coming after that shameful plane flew over the bernabeau...


ronaldo is a business man and so is lampard and drogba and fabregas.


move on OK...stop the daydreaming and hypocritic support of RM


WE didn't suddenly start watching and supporting the Turkish league since drogba left for galatasarey...we moved on, ''that's what real blue club fans are made of''
Are you done?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:10am On Oct 09, 2014
leggo:
Are you done?
u even read his post? u try cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Chances created is the most screwed and useless stat in football. The real attacking stats should stop at goals, assists, clear cut chances conversion and clear cut chances created.

1. What is the essence of the stat when a player creates 115 chances and only 5 led to a goal? And he got applauded? Or one creates 100 and only 7 led to a goal.


2. Who is more useful? One who creates 100 chances with 5 leading to a goal or one who creates 50 chances with 10 leading to a goal?

3. or between a player who created 100 (useless) chances with only 5 being big chances (CCC) or another who has only 50 chances with 10 big chances (clear cut chances)?

4. The analysts of chances created stats even get confused. In 2012/13 as of January Steve Pienaar was said to be the best in chances creation. At the end Pienaar was not mentioned again, instead we were told in one article it was Baines, in another it was Mata.

5. The worst of this stat is the fact that the stat is highly screwed in terms of the teams the players feature in. For instance:

* Mata is no where near Jesus Navas. Navas is more creative than Mata. Despite Navas being a winger.

* Mata is no longer among the top 5. Man City now has 3 players among the top 5.



In my opinion, I see nothing important in chances created/key pass.
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