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| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Alisha4U(f): 4:29pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
rabimlomo:At the height of the Sharia debate during the Obasanjo administration, Buhari declared that Muslims should vote only for fellow Muslims. This was politically suicidal for a man seeking national office. He became an advocate for implementation of Sharia all over Nigeria. He protested to the Oyo State governor, in the context of a dispute between Fulani herdsmen and indigenous farmers in the state, that “your people are killing my people.” This turned out to be unfounded and perhaps the reverse. His threats during the campaign for the 2011 elections incited widespread violence in the North after he lost. His supporters went on a rampage; looting and killing; in spite of the fact that, by all accounts, the elections were adjudged the most free and fair in the history of Nigeria’s current democratic experiment. By the time the mayhem had subsided, over 1000 people had been slaughtered in cold blood and some 65,000 displaced. Forgetting that a statement made in Hausa would readily be translated into English, Buhari later declared unapologetically in a BBC interview: “If what happened in 2011 should again happen in 2015, by the grace of God, the dog and the baboon would all be soaked in blood.” These are the tokens of an irresponsible politician, whose ambitions for power supersede the national interest. Who then are the dogs and baboons that Buhari has in mind to soak in blood if and when he loses yet again come 2015? Are they his children or are they those of others? With the Boko Haram insurgency in the north, Buhari played to the Northern gallery yet again, calling the Jonathan government “the biggest Boko Haram.” Wole Olaniyi was a fly in the wall at a meeting in Kano Government House designed to persuade PDP rebel governor, Rabiu Kwankwaso, to decamp to the APC. Assuming that only Northerners were present, Buhari declared the Boko Haram was a “strategic plan” by the government of Goodluck Jonathan to “destroy the North.” When Jonathan declared a state of emergency in Yobe, Borno and Adamawa states, Buhari still saw this with Northern goggles, insinuating that the President is waging war on the North. President of the North Without a doubt, Buhari has massive support in the North. Indeed, he is the most popular Northern politician in the North today. But that precisely remains his undoing at the centre. The more he has been identified as a Northern champion, the less attractive he has become as a national choice. Even in the North, his support base is limited to the Muslim population. He does not appeal to Northern Christians. Then there is the added factor of the opposition of his implacable opponents among the Northern elite. Men like Babangida and Atiku would rather die than allow Buhari get to Aso Rock. One thing is certain, the South-South and the South-East will not vote for Buhari in 2015. Not only that; there are no buyers for Buhari’s sectarian politics in the South-West. No matter what Tinubu might be telling him, the people of the South-West will not vote for Buhari in 2015. We already had the template in 2011, when Buhari tried to sell himself, first by balancing his ticket with a Yoruba man; and then by making sure the Yoruba man is a Christian; a pastor no less. But it just did not wash. It will not work in 2015. The worst thing that can happen to Northern presidential aspirations in 2015 is for Buhari to be on the APC ballot. That is a sure guarantee that the North will not be providing the next president. Buhari would be a shoo-in in an election for president of Northern Nigeria. But in an election encompassing the entire country, the best he can envisage is to be a kingmaker. He cannot be king. The nearest Buhari will get to Aso Rock in 2015 is by attending the Council of State meetings. - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/buhari-will-never-president-nigeria/#sthash.JXa1DlN6.dpuf |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Nobody: 6:05pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
EnigmAries:Igbos are predominantly christians hence few mosques in the south east, the ones there have never been burnt or bombed, neither has there been cases of killing of muslims in the south east. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by propertylisting: 6:24pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Although, fashola has tried in lagos but a vp has no voice in this nation. Buhari is a Boko haram. We cannot be decieved with that political disguise. Read: https://www.nairaland.com/1839184/islamisation-nigeria-nigerian-constitution-recognises |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by ELGREF(m): 11:32pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
I don't give a Bleep about religion....I need a leader that will speak on burning issues..someone that will build Nigeria and youth like me. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 11:01am On Oct 23, 2014 |
SamIkenna:My brother, I must profoundly apologise for having not more than 1 like and 1 share to acknowledge this brilliant piece of analysis |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 11:24am On Oct 23, 2014 |
ratiken:I live in lagos and like many resident lagosians, I've got nothing but praise 4 fashola but the issues u raised are pertinent and demands consideration leading me to wonder, is anything ever what it seems? ![]() ratiken:I live in lagos and like many resident lagosians, I've got nothing but praise 4 fashola but the issues u raised are pertinent and demands consideration leading me to wonder, is anything ever what it seems? |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 12:06pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Omimah:Nigeria wasn't so polarised along religous lines back then as it is now, so what applied back then wouldn't and doesn't apply now, not after maitatsine, buhari, religous riots and murders, boko haram among others, am not from the north but have friends from there both christian and muslim, in recent years I have noticed my nothern christian friends getting edgy and defensive, they are also increasingly prone to anger and irritation against muslims in general and southern christians too who they feel have abandoned them in their struggle for survival against an ever encroaching and militant muslim majority in the north and if you've been following the news over the past two decades, you'll understand why. Also, why should the fact that they hold ceremonial positions with little or no effective power like chairmanship of the ACF be celebrated when the real power (presidency) is reserved for the hausa\fulani oligarchy? |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 12:28pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
justhelp:Am trying to resist the temptation not to insult you but am sorry, I must call you very daft indeed (apology included) people from south-south, south-east not well educated, ignorant and illiterate? Don't know about the south-east but are you by some grand mistake reffering to my south-south in those terms? Dude re-enlighten yourself before making such errors again. Re: yes, religion and politics shouldn't mix in an ideal democracy but Nigerian democracy isn't ideal, is it? |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 1:25pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Omimah:Yes, like they embraced my uncle with a knife in his throat at kano during one of those sharia riots in 2003, we never had a body to bury, like they embraced his hausa driver by chopping of his right hand for trying to protect him, like they've been embracing southerners and northern muslims over the years and yet, during any riot in lagos, I can not bring myself to go hausa stalking or hunting because I always see them first and above anything else as human and just like me, despite my grief and I live with a few of them, maybe am more northern than your average hausa. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 1:28pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Omimah:I meant southerners and northern christians |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 1:48pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
SamIkenna:Can't fault your argument or logic............................ Dat's just the ultra rational part of me speaking |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 2:18pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
ratiken:WOOOOOOOOOORD!! |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Dmouthed(m): 4:04pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
oluamid:Thank God you know they are BEREAVED. Its because they allow themselves to be used and the cry for it without learning their lessings |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 5:03pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
ISpiksDaTroof:You and your 40million, then 20million, now 12million votes for buhari and every other -ish you spew from thread to thread sef, don't you ever get tired? What crystal ball do/are you peep/peeping into? It must be getting very very hazy in it because your figures seem to be dropping or maybe the reality of the “anti-buhari (not neccesarily pro-GEJ) vote“ seems to be catching up with you. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 5:20pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
ISpiksDaTroof:Remember the anti-buhari vote I talked about? And you actually think much has changed on that score ![]() |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 5:39pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
ISpiksDaTroof:Because methods are the all important difference, some attempt to win you by love and reasoning and they call themselves christians, others hold a knife to your throat and ask you to accept the decision they choose for you or die and they call themselves muslims (of course you'll claim they are extremists) but the tag muslim still sticks. Do I also need to spell out the different ramifications of both methods vis-a-vis with the former your life and security is guaranteed irrespective of the choice you make while with the latter whether you live or die depends on making the choice which is right by your assailants? And you still wonder why regardless of whether or buhari parades himself as the messiah there will always be many Nigerians like me voting not for manifestos or for reforms but just simply anti- a man that won't vehemently condemn such muslims as I stated above simply because some of the evils they carry out are close to his heart's desire. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by oluamid(m): 5:45pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Dmouthed:I hope you are only trying to play with words and not that you lack the ability to comprehend what I said. I don't abuse people and I won't start with you. But you really tempted me. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 5:51pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
sammy187:Very factual |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 6:27pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Alisha4U:Seriously! Is there anything more to add? Do we want a northern president or a national president? Is a corrupt centrist GEJ truly worse than a nepotic islamist extremist GMB? Can't we see the ticking bomb this is? If uhuru kenyatta can be prosecuted at the ICJ (international court of justice) for inciting post election violence bothering on genocide in kenya, why not buhari or maybe it was just dogs and baboons (southerners and christians) that were killed not people (fulani herdmen) as he thought was the case in oyo in 2003. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Nobody: 9:08pm On Oct 24, 2014 |
Why do some people bristle at mention of GMB presidency? at the moment there is no more eminently qualified Nigerian on the presidential contest of any party or envisage one that can match him. find his antecedents ; (this is borrowed by the way) , I write this because of millions of Nigerians who are below 30 and who constitute a significant chunk of our voting population. This is the ICT generation that is largely ignorant about the events of the Buhari era (1983-85) and so can be misinformed and misled by needless propaganda. I have sat with many in the under-30 bracket and those slightly above who only have faint recollections of the Buhari era and the level of ignorance about that era is amazing. Before being MILITARY Head of State,Buhari had been Governor of one of the Northern States (under Obasanjo’s Military government) as well as Minister for Petroleum. He later served as Chairman of PTF under Abacha. Please consider the following unassailable facts: •He birthed and supervised the establishment of our existing refineries. •There was no religious crisis while he was Head of State. It started under his successor IBB! •In his time as Head of State he reduced inflation from 23% to 4%, by fiscal discipline and a homegrown economic team (not achieved under any other era, even military). •JJ Rawlings of Ghana took over 2yrs before him, and killed all the corrupt leaders, while Buhari only sentenced the corrupt leaders here to prison. •Under his watch as PTF Chairman,what he did in road construction in that short period hasn't been matched by12yrs of the PDP. •Hospitals and universities around the country never witnessed as much benefits as they got from the PTF from any government after or before his time. •Despite serving in senior capacity in the oil sector, first as Minister for Petroleum and then Petroleum Trust Fund, Buhari has no petrol station, much less a rig, refinery or an oil block like so many of our leaders. •He could have retired into nauseating opulence like an IBB or Danjuma or even OBJ but didn't. •Instead of hobnobbing with the high and mighty, he has cast his lot with the ordinary man most of who follow him out of hope and belief in his values. People who know him have said of him... "All I need from Buhari is his word, I can take it to the bank". •He is the only politician in the North today who fills rallies without renting a crowd. The Kaduna rally of 2nd March is eloquent proof! •He refused to collect an allowance while serving as Chairman of the PTF because he said since he was already drawing a pension from government, his conscience would not allow him to draw another salary from the purse of the same government. •He is the only former head of state that does not own property or land in Abuja . •Every attempt to rubbish him through probes in time past eneded up vindicating him! The man who was asked by OBJ to take over the running of PTF before it was scrapped with the aim of probing and indicting Buhari, was the one who ended up being prosecuted for misappropriating $100m of PTF funds! Buhari again, was vindicated •He has OPENLY challenged those who accuse him of religious fundamentalism to come out and show proof. No one has till today, taken up the challenge. His personal driver of many years is a Christian from Plateau State ! •His government initiated the War Against Indiscipline that has made environmental cleanliness, queuing up, not urinating by the roadside etc features of our national life even till today Does it then surprise you why corrupt people would be spreading such heinous rumours about Buhari? He is a threat to them and they know what he is capable of doing to corruption and corrupt people when he comes into office! So shine your eyes and make the right decision. If honesty, trust, integrity, sincerity, dedication and probity are the things you want forNigeria ,now is the time to choose |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by 5thNOTE: 3:08pm On Oct 27, 2014 |
But what is wrong with Buhari vs Oshiomole ticket? We cant allow muslim/muslim ticket in nigeria. And must they always take governors or former polictical holders. Cant i who have not held any post stand up and be elected as president? Say no to Islamisation of nigeria, rather it must be equity, as in the north so in the south. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by PenSniper: 9:36pm On Nov 02, 2014 |
bayulll01:Political bigots like you operate in a blindfold so cannot reason objectively. Blind people like you will always hail one-eyed men like Fashola. I dont belong to your type because am not tied to the apron springs of political jobbers and parties that have infested Nigeria so i can see better. We are gradually but steadily approaching the hour of reckoning when we shall see what stench they all represent. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by BraniacX(m): 11:58am On Nov 17, 2014 |
jossi994:Are you done ranting? ![]() Methinks you like the sound of your own voice irrespective of how ugly it sounds... Anyway, since you claim to be educating us, how about we spoonfeed you your own medicine? As agreed, its "back to school" for you, so where is proffesor datole? Because i'll honestly admit my inability at being able to re-educate an ignoramus of your calibre [I]proffesor datole! Proffesor datole!![/i] we have another Nigerian sufferer of logical and ideological myopism, please leave your sabbatical and come help him out. Hopefully you've or should have or be able to at least learn/learned a few things to correct your misconceptions afterall, there is no cure for ignorance like truth and facts and next time don't come spewing falsehoods hoping that ppl are too gullible to know better and/or too lazy to try to find out the truth. |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Nobody: 7:10am On Nov 18, 2014 |
BraniacX:Did you brush your mouth this morning? ![]() |
| Re: Buhari/fashola Ticket: Opinion Of A SW Christian by Occurstaem(m): 4:52pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Mogidi:Please calm down. Okay let start with this. In 2003 in The State of Osun, PDP choose Olagunsoye Oyinlola(christian) and Erelu Obada(christian) as governor and deputy respectively even when Muslims population is more than christians population in the State. Muslims did not complain. Someone even created a thread about the governors of the South West since the return of democrazy as from 1999 till date. Can someone please remember me or show 'Mogidi' the link to that thread. |
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