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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 10:33am On Oct 30, 2014
Sophyrocks:


Chop knuckle please!!

Empty vessels will always make the loudest noise. Beating chest and talk talk with nothing to show for it. Taking credit for what they have no hand in to create ridiculous points for senseless arguments!! What has africa invented? Nothing!! Other than to use the D1CK to boast and over populate the earth!!! if they were not so engrossed in using the D1CK to reason all the time, they could have invented something. You see the west? They talk less and do more. They uuse their brains often!! Africa own na talk and talk and talk, nothing to show for it. The same west they criticise is the same place they all rushed to stay. Hypocrites!!
One is trying to save a chick from the jaws of death, it says its being prevented from eating from the litter. What is so special about a pair of swollen flesh with milk glands and a pair of bùttocks, with a deformed pènis dangling in between, that you can't cover with clothes?
I really think there is nothing to argue about, except you want to argue about something. I blame testösterone for the unwarranted worth attached to the body of these deformed men. angry
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 10:54am On Oct 30, 2014
Misogynist2014:
One is trying to save a chick from the jaws of death, it says its being prevented from eating from the litter. What is so special about a pair of swollen flesh with milk glands and a pair of bùttocks, with a deformed pènis dangling in between, that you can't cover with clothes?
I really think there is nothing to argue about, except you want to argue about something. I blame testösterone for the unwarranted worth attached to the body of these deformed men. angry

Blaming it on the west is pointless, hypocritical and has no grrounds. Even men here in nigeria who wanna take a piss can be so mannerless as to bring out their genitals in the full glare of others outside!! Is that not indecent exposure? Is the west to blame for that too? As pure africans devoid of any form of civilisation, we never wore clothes. Even the traditional attire depicted in nollywood movies shows a lot of skin and its equal to wearing of panties and bra. It is the same west that raised our IQ, saved us from full blown barbarism (even though we still do act like barbarians till today) and gave us common sense that we need clothes to cover. So blame it on individuals and not on the west!!! Simple!! STOP BLAMING THE WEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY!! We on our own are naturally morally bankrupt. We have always been wicked, callous and barbaric!! we are just hypocrites, pretenders. Remove the religious fanaticism, we are Nothing!! The west are not religious yet they know what is right and they just do it. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. Indecent exposure of body parts is and as always been a part and parcel of africans!!!

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 11:24am On Oct 30, 2014
Sophyrocks:


Blaming it on the west is pointless, hypocritical and has no grrounds. Even men here in nigeria who wanna take a piss can be so mannerless as to bring out their genitals in the full glare of others outside!! Is that not indecent exposure? Is the west to blame for that too? As pure africans devoid of any form of civilisation, we never wore clothes. Even the traditional attire depicted in nollywood movies shows a lot of skin and its equal to wearing of panties and bra. It is the same west that raised our IQ, save us from full blown barbarism (even though we still do act like barbarians still today) and gave us common sense that we need clothes to cover. So blame on individuals and not the west!!! Simple!! STOP BLAMING THE WEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY!! Indecent exposure of body parts is and as always been a part and parcel of africans!!!
Sometimes I get infuriated when people try to equate the whole of Africa. If you never knew, civilisation started from Africa and Asia. In your Bible, have you ever come across USA and England, if you haven't, then you can never.
Ethiopia was once a great empire, spanning to Saudi Arabia, UAE and a lot of Arab world, until Islam destroyed the christian empire. Egypt, Sudan were also well known. The Benin kingdom and Yoruba kingdom were also highly civilized. So pls, never look down on Africa, we will rise again.
Using the dress code of YOUR ancestors as a reason to dress like a lùnatic is not only pathetic, but silly. Culture is dynamic, if the society that was indifferent about seeing your nìpplès in the public are not comfortable with seeing it again, why not keep it. Does your husband expose his chest or private part in public like HIS ancestors did? Or does he wear skimpy clothes in public? If he can keep to a normal mode of dressing, why can't you? Why do you torment the soul of married men in public? Why?
I actually think mankind is wrong about seeing men and women as same entity, cos we have some similar characteristics and you give birth to us. I really think our difference is gargantuan and can't reason the same way. angry

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 11:44am On Oct 30, 2014
Misogynist2014:
Sometimes I get infuriated when people try to equate the whole of Africa. If you never knew, civilisation started from Africa and Asia. In your Bible, have you ever come across USA and England, if you haven't, then you can never.
Ethiopia was once a great empire, spanning to Saudi Arabia, UAE and a lot of Arab world, until Islam destroyed the christian empire. Egypt, Sudan were also well known. The Benin kingdom and Yoruba kingdom were also highly civilized. So pls, never look down on Africa, we will rise again.
Using the dress code of YOUR ancestors as a reason to dress like a lùnatic is not only pathetic, but silly. Culture is dynamic, if the society that was indifferent about seeing your nìpplès in the public are not comfortable with seeing it again, why not keep it. Does your husband expose his chest or private part in public like HIS ancestors did? Or does he wear skimpy clothes in public? If he can keep to a normal mode of dressing, why can't you? Why do you torment the soul of married men in public? Why?
I actually think mankind is wrong about seeing men and women as same entity, cos we have some similar characteristics and you give birth to us. I really think our difference is gargantuan and can't reason the same way. angry

Nobody is looking down on africa. It is the stinking hypocrisy we africans love to show plus the blame game we love to play because of our problems, as if we are morally better than the west, is what i am pointing at!! I have pointed out where we as africans are not any better than the west when it comes to indecent exposure. Dnt get me wrong, i am against indecent exposure which was i pointed out where you men are also guilty of. It is seen as a normal thing for a man to expose his genitals when taking a piss. And i asked you, is that not indecent exposure? a guy sagging his trousers to the point that we can see his hairy buttocks or dirty boxers, is that not indecent exposure? All of us, male and female are all gulity of it!!!

My point is this: Do not blame the west for our fallen morals. do not blame them for indecent dressing because right from time immemorial , we have never been decently dressed. if you have to go by the standards of what we call 'Decent dressing', our forefathers and mothers were not decently dressed. We ourselves are morally bankrupt!!

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 12:21pm On Oct 30, 2014
Sophyrocks:


Nobody is looking down on africa. It is the stinking hypocrisy we africans love to show plus the blame game we love to play because of our problems, as if we are morally better than the west, is what i am pointing at!! I have pointed out where we as africans are not any better than the west when it comes to indecent exposure. Dnt get me wrong, i am against indecent exposure which was i pointed out where you men are also guilty of. It is seen as a normal thing for a man to expose his genitals when taking a piss. And i asked you, is that not indecent exposure? a guy sagging his trousers to the point that we can see his hairy buttocks or dirty boxers, is that not indecent exposure? All of us, male and female are all gulity of it!!!

My point is this: Do not blame the west for our fallen morals. do not blame them for indecent dressing because right from time immemorial , we have never been decently dressed. if you have to go by the standards of what we call 'Decent dressing', our forefathers and mothers were not decently dressed. We ourselves are morally bankrupt!!
You might just be right afterall. sad
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by TV01(m): 2:10pm On Oct 30, 2014
red101:
please don't try to flatter yourself. You have not built any civilization. the white men and women have.
Not that I was wrong in the first instance, but I believe I have you pretty much sized up.

So what obtained in Africa - specifically Nigeria - prior to the arrival of the white-man was not civilisation. Another one who like Carefreewannabe has a serious self-loathing issue with her heritage and culture.

Remember, very few quality white men get with black girls - especially at your level wink!


TV

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by TV01(m): 2:18pm On Oct 30, 2014
Sophyrocks:
Blaming it on the west is pointless, hypocritical and has no grrounds. Even men here in nigeria who wanna take a piss can be so mannerless as to bring out their genitals in the full glare of others outside!! Is that not indecent exposure? Is the west to blame for that too? As pure africans devoid of any form of civilisation, we never wore clothes. Even the traditional attire depicted in nollywood movies shows a lot of skin and its equal to wearing of panties and bra. It is the same west that raised our IQ, saved us from full blown barbarism (even though we still do act like barbarians till today) and gave us common sense that we need clothes to cover. So blame it on individuals and not on the west!!! Simple!! STOP BLAMING THE WEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILIT Y!! We on our own are naturally morally bankrupt. We have always been wicked, callous and barbaric!! we are just hypocrites, pretenders. Remove the religious fanaticism, we are Nothing!! The west are not religious yet they know what is right and they just do it. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. Indecent exposure of body parts is and as always been a part and parcel of africans !!!

Sophy, Sophy, Sophy,

How on earth can you say Africa was not civilised before the white man came. I’m not even sure I can dignify that with a response. Do you feast from the garbage can at night and then come here to orally defacate in the morning? E jo, e gba mic l’owo e grin!

Miso has already chastised you some, so I'll spare you somewhat, but only because the second bolded is quite true - in a general sense. But that first bolded Have you read any history further back than Ovation?? cheesy

And the third, Exposure does not necessarily mean indecent. Is unclothedness the same of sexualisation and promiscuity in every culture? Have the West not a great deal to do with propagating this of late? And Imperialistically trying to get other nations to toe the line? Sophy, you really need to bone up some. Chai!

And please, what is this obsession with men pee’ing in public – and using that as a basis for female lewdness & sluttery? Is it an act anyone has justified?

This conversation has been going on for 22 pages. For the last few or so, there have been no rebuttal of points by the haddock-brained contingent – just pained outbursts, gifs, emoticon abuse and rent-a-likes…please clear off if you’ve no factual rejoinders to present.

Honestly.


TV

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by pickabeau1: 2:25pm On Oct 30, 2014
It is tellin when the mothers of tomorrow dont even know of the great African Empires

Kanem Bornu
Oyo
Benin
Mali
Ashanti
Zulu
Egypt
Ethiopia


it is doubly sad when they look down on africa and deify everything western
The same west that pillaged the New World and slaughtered millions of Red Indians
The same west that facilitated a system of slaveryacross Africa

Lawdy Lawd.... if you dont know where you are coming from... how can you know your destination - Exodus


Damn... the west has won even before the bell rang

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 2:32pm On Oct 30, 2014
TV01:


Sophy, Sophy, Sophy,

How on earth can you say Africa was not civilised before the white man came. I’m not even sure I can dignify that with a response. Do you feast from the garbage can at night and then come here to orally defacate in the morning? E jo, e gba mic l’owo e grin!

Miso has already chastised you some, so I'll spare you somewhat, but only because the second bolded is quite true - in a general sense. But that first bolded Have you read any history further back than Ovation?? cheesy

And the third, Exposure does not necessarily mean indecent. Is unclothedness the same of sexualisation and promiscuity in every culture? Have the West not a great deal to do with propagating this of late? And Imperialistically trying to get other nations to toe the line? Sophy, you really need to bone up some. Chai!

And please, what is this obsession with men pee’ing in public – and using that as a basis for female lewdness & sluttery? Is it an act anyone has justified?

This conversation has been going on for 22 pages. For the last few or so, there have been no rebuttal of points by the haddock-brained contingent – just pained outbursts, gifs, emoticon abuse and rent-a-likes…please clear off if you’ve no factual rejoinders to present.

Honestly.


TV

You are the one who actually feasts on Garbage 24/7. That is why you could say women do not contribute to civilisation. That is why you wanna take credit for what you have no hand in. Have you invented anything? other than to come to Nairaland and spew rubbish and blow all the grammar wey full dictionary about women!!! You think we get impressed by grammar only? yada yada yada bla bla bla.....

Whether you like it or not, no matter how you wanna deny it, africans have never been decently dressed!! Quit the blame game and improve yourselves instead. We are all hypocrites including you!! How can you say a man deliberately bringing out his genitals in the full glare of the public is not indecent exposure? How

If you also dnt have anything tangible or reasonable points to bring out, or you wanna keep whinning like little girl that you are, then Zip it and quit quoting me!!!

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by TV01(m): 2:47pm On Oct 30, 2014
Sophyrocks:
You are the one who actually feasts on Garbage 24/7. That is why you could say women do not contribute to civilisation. That is why you wanna take credit for what you have no hand in. Have you invented anything? other than to come to Nairaland and spew rubbishhh and blow grammer about women!!! yad yada yada bla bla bla.....
Garbage in trash out...

Sophyrocks:
Whether you like it or not, no matter how you wanna deny it, africans have never been decently dressed!! Quit the blame game and improve yourselves instead. We are all hypocrites including you!! How can you say a man deliberately bringing out his genitals in the full glare of the public is not indecent exposure? How
Can you even define decency? And you are repeating your ignorance? Because body parts are unclad, is that prima facie confirnation of indecency/ Without consideration to the culture, context and setting (if this is sexualised, leads to promiscuity or molest etc.)

Sophyrocks:
If you also dnt have anything tangible or reasonable points to bring out, or you wanna keep whinning like little girl that you are, then Zip it and quit quoting me!!!
I can whine all I want too and I can quote you all I like - the only way to prevent that is to stop posting (and deactivate your account - you have a history of clangers) cool! And as long as you spew ignorant rant filled garbage, I will - if I feel like - post tangible and reasonable rebuttals.

Your forefathers may not have been decent or moral or civilised, but mine were - regardless of the white mans arrival. Another self-loather.


TV

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 3:00pm On Oct 30, 2014
pickabeau1:
It is tellin when the mothers of tomorrow dont even know of the great African Empires

Kanem Bornu
Oyo
Benin
Mali
Ashanti
Zulu
Egypt
Ethiopia


it is doubly sad when they look down on africa and deify everything western
The same west that pillaged the New World and slaughtered millions of Red Indians
The same west that facilitated a system of slaveryacross Africa

Lawdy Lawd.... if you dont know where you are coming from... how can you know your destination - Exodus


Damn... the west has won even before the bell rang

Some people can be so pathetic that you just have to give up on them. embarassed

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 3:08pm On Oct 30, 2014
Lmao...if in 2014 folks on here don't even know what civilisation entails, and that it started in Africa - before spreading to the rest of the world. Then I actually feel sorry for humanity. I think I need to start examining the cerebral prowess of the kind of people I engage on here. Ignorance sometimes can be contagious. European men and women built civilisation - bwahahahahaha - FML!! grin

If we were to remove ancient Greece from the equation, because of its location in the Mediterranean, and the fact that those who built the Greek civilisation weren't of the same racial classification as today's Europeans (they were mixed and there were black Greeks) - then civilisation got to the rest of the world before Europe. The Indo-European migration wave started about 2500-3000 years ago. And world civilisation is more than 10,000 years old.

Furthermore, the genesis of today's western civilisation started after the Battle of Marathon. And it collapsed during the dark ages for 500 years. However, the Moorish (yes, Moors from Africa) and Arab influence in Iberia (Southern Europe), which they ruled for 500 years, with Islam (yes, the same Islam), kick-started the European renaissance with the help of the Christian crusaders. The knowledge of modern mathematics, science, astronomy etc. came from the Moors and the Arabs (yes, the same freaking Arabs we all despise today for being backward lol). Heck, the world map, and atlas Christopher Columbus used for his voyage to the Americas was a Moorish map. Even before the Europeans got to Africa during the slavery and colonisation era, they were loads of Kingdoms/Empires with great civilisations scattered across the continent.

Anyway, they need to start teaching you lot history in Nigeria. The ignorance on this forum sometimes is absolutely shocking. Missy89, you're also lacking in that aspect - hence we do disagree from time to time.

Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft. - Winston Churchill

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by TV01(m): 3:18pm On Oct 30, 2014
shymexx:
Lmao...if in 2014 folks on here don't even know what civilisation entails, and that it started in Africa - before spreading to the rest of the world. Then I actually feel sorry for humanity. I think I need to start examining the cerebral prowess of the kind of people I engage on here. Ignorance sometimes can be contagious. European men and women built civilisation - bwahahahahaha - FML!! grin

If we were to remove ancient Greece from the equation, because of its location in the Mediterranean, and the fact that those who built the Greek civilisation weren't of the same racial classification as today's Europeans (they were mixed and there were black Greeks) - then civilisation got to the rest of the world before Europe. The Indo-European migration wave started about 2500-3000 years ago. And world civilisation is more than 10,000 years old.

Furthermore, the genesis of today's western civilisation started after the Battle of Marathon. And it collapsed during the dark ages for 500 years. However, the Moorish (yes, Moors from Africa) and Arab influence in Iberia (Southern Europe), which they ruled for 500 years, with Islam (yes, the same Islam), kick-started the European renaissance with the help of the Christian crusaders. The knowledge of modern mathematics, science, astronomy etc. came from the Moors and the Arabs (yes, the same freaking Arabs we all despise today for being backward lol). Heck, the world map, and atlas Christopher Columbus used for his voyage to the Americas was a Moorish map. Even before the Europeans got to Africa during the slavery and colonisation era, they were loads of Kingdoms/Empires with great civilisations scattered across the continent.

Anyway, they need to start teaching you lot history in Nigeria. The ignorance on this forum sometimes is absolutely shocking. Missy89, you're also lacking in that aspect - hence we do disagree from time to time.

Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft. - Winston Churchill
You do appreciate this was wasted on about 50% of the posters here? It's a long way from saying "all Africans were barbaric savages before the white men" to what you have above. Anyway, best persevere - some of them will be raising children lipsrsealed!


TV

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 3:25pm On Oct 30, 2014
Feel good about yourself. Nothing wrong with that.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 3:41pm On Oct 30, 2014
[quote author=TV01 post=27582292][/quote] Thanks jawe! Women don't listen at all. Instead of being cogent and reasonable, they allow emotions to get the better of them and then resort to cheap blackmail. After correcting Sophyrocks on the usage of OUR forefathers and the reason why what was acceptable yesterday might not be today, she still manages to repeat the same thing. embarassed She keeps accusing men of flashing their pipes outside, which I find absurd and unbelievable. Except she fixes her gaze on the man, who dutifully faces the bush and covers his pipe, I don't think she can see his pipe, even women bend down in public when they are pressed. Except if she is referring to young children, which I think cuts across both gender.
She talked about men sagging and people seeing their private hair. Is sagging the same as showing excess skin outside? I can assure you that those who you see their hairs outside are either not aware or that they couldn't help it cos they had no belt.
I was once at a party, where I saw a lady of my age bracket dress leaving a good part of her brèäst out. I thought she was either generous or felt sexy in it, so I decided to gaze at her succulent tätas cool . She saw me, but I maintained my gaze, then she started pulling her top and adjusting her skirt. This is the sad story of Nigerian girls. They can wear pänt in beach but try to cover it when dressed.
I think there should be a course called Feminine studies, cos I think there is still a lot to learn about this gender called female- so shallow and unpredictable. sad

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 3:41pm On Oct 30, 2014
TV01:

You do appreciate this was wasted on about 50% of the posters here? It's a long way from saying "all Africans were barbaric savages before the white men" to what you have above. Anyway, best persevere - some of them will be raising children lipsrsealed!


TV

Lol, I have seen folks talk brazenly about, "if the Brits had be allowed to colonise us longer, we would have been better" without knowing that the Brits left out of their own free-will cos the Nigerian project wasn't that profitable to them any longer. And the only reason why they built South Africa was because the plan was to make it another Australia.

Heck, the Brits never even developed Nigeria that much, apart from the rail tracks they built for plundering the resources and shipping them to the coast. And the schools they built were primarily for their own families out here, and for the influence of the missionaries. Some would even argue that the slave returnees contributed more to colonial Nigeria than the Brits ever did.

I have also seen folks alluding to some white woman stopping the killing of twins in Nigeria, in the 20th century. Perhaps because she stopped the practice in one tribe. And credit her for it. When hundreds of tribes in the same country never killed twins at any point in their history.

The ignorance on here is shocking.

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Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:
Feel good about yourself. Nothing wrong with that.

Lol, my e-wife, why do you get emotional whenever I don't agree with you? Just know we are going to disagree on certain topics and it is part of life lol.

Anyway, it is somewhat reminiscent of my ex, and her tears whenever I don't agree with her. And that shiit messed me up for a long time cos I absolutely hate hurting those I care about. I don't like emotional blackmail, trust me lol.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 3:46pm On Oct 30, 2014
coogar:





Bullsh1t!

There are Rothschild banks in Russia and China.

all you have to do is pull up their website
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 3:59pm On Oct 30, 2014
SirShymex:


- Russia will look more like that Soviet Union of yore - that never cared about the domination of the rest of the world, apart from its neighbours.

- And China has never been a colonising power, even at the peak of its empire status of yore, when it was powerful and wealthy country.


How would you explain the Chinese conquest of Tibet in the 50s and relocating han Chinese to the area since the mid 50s?

How about Russia's conquest of the far east? That was achieved by genocide, forced relocation/assimilation and total war waged by the Russian cossacks and explorers like Vassili Poyarkov.

Nikita Khrushchev's speech few days after the US first satellite crashed (FLOPNIK) should tell you about the objectives of the soviet union. If that is not an attempt for world domination then what is?

No great power is innocent when it come to colonization/Domination
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 4:00pm On Oct 30, 2014
shymexx:


Lol, my e-wife, why do you get emotional whenever I don't agree with you? Just know we are going to disagree on certain topics and it is part of life lol.

Anyway, it is somewhat reminiscent of my ex, and her tears whenever I don't agree with her. And that shiit messed me up for a long time cos I absolutely hate hurting those I care about. I don't like emotional blackmail, trust me lol.

I am not showing any emotion at all. nice try
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 4:03pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:
Feel good about yourself. Nothing wrong with that.


Missy89, how was your day? wink
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 4:06pm On Oct 30, 2014
Misogynist2014:
Missy89, how was your day? wink





i am good and u?

why are u a Misogynist by the way?
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:13pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:

How would you explain the Chinese conquest of Tibet in the 50s and relocating han Chinese to the area since the mid 50s?

How about Russia's conquest of the far east? That was achieved by genocide, forced relocation/assimilation and total war waged by the Russian cossacks and explorers like Vassili Poyarkov.

Nikita Khrushchev's speech few days after the US first satellite crashed (FLOPNIK) should tell you about the objectives of the soviet union. If that is not an attempt for world domination then what is?

No great power is innocent when it come to colonization/Domination

Tibet and China have been going at it since forever...with both conquering and annexing part of each other territories. However, that changed after the Huan Chinese defeated the Mongols, who the Tibetans were under, in the 14th century. That's just like Mexico and America, with California, Arizona, Texas etc. which are conquered territories. So, how does that prove anything about my assertion that China never colonised any country? How about tell me why it didn't colonise Vietnam, Korea etc. when it had the opportunity to? Heck, the Chinese traded with Africans in the ancient times - why didn't they come over to the continent to colonise the people?

Note the with Russia, I alluded to: apart from its immediate neighbours. Borders shifted back and forth back then, basically to create buffers against neigbouring empires. Just take a look at the powerful kingdoms and empires at close proximity back then, and you'll understand why. The Soviet Union had so much influence in Africa, Middle East, Asia, and South America when it reigned supreme - but was it imperialistic in its methods?
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:15pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:


I am not showing any emotion at all. nice try

Lol, you know you always get out of character and emotional whenever I don't agree with you - stop it. I tend to bring out the emotional side of you. You're a military chic, and the first rule is about: never wearing your emotions on ya sleeves, and survival. grin
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Misogynist2014(m): 4:23pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:


i am good and u?

why are u a Misogynist by the way?
I'm cool. I'm not a misogynist(at least not the type you think), I don't hate women. I'm only being critical. smiley
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Missy89(f): 4:34pm On Oct 30, 2014
shymexx:


Tibet and China have been going at it since forever...with both conquering and annexing part of each other territories. However, that changed after the Huan Chinese defeated the Mongols, who the Tibetans were under, in the 14th century. That's just like Mexico and America, with California, Arizona, Texas etc. which are conquered territories. So, how does that prove anything about my assertion that China never colonised any country? How about tell me why it didn't colonise Vietnam, Korea etc. when it had the opportunity to? Heck, the Chinese traded with Africans in the ancient times - why didn't they come over to the continent to colonise the people?

Note the with Russia, I alluded to: apart from its immediate neighbours. Borders shifted back and forth back then, basically to create buffers against neigbouring empires. Just take a look at the powerful kingdoms and empires at close proximity back then, and you'll understand why. The Soviet Union had so much influence in Africa, Middle East, Asia, and South America when it reigned supreme - but was it imperialistic in its methods?


China tried in Vietnam, they got their asses handed to them in 1967 when the Vietnamese were killing them like rats. They tried to invade Vietnam in other to save Cambodia but it was a humiliating defeat.
Vietnam Imposed their will on Cambodia and China couldn't do anything to stop that.

I agree that Russia's invasion of the far east was strategic to her defense but when we start giving such excuses for invading your neighbor, isn't that a slippery slope? especially when her methods included genocide and forced relocation and assimilation?

Soviet Union's Methods in Hungary (1956) and Czechoslovakia (1968) isn't imperialistic?.

Influencing proxy conflicts in Mozambique in 1977 and 1964? how about that?
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 30, 2014
shymexx:
Lmao...if in 2014 folks on here don't even know what civilisation entails, and that it started in Africa - before spreading to the rest of the world. Then I actually feel sorry for humanity. I think I need to start examining the cerebral prowess of the kind of people I engage on here. Ignorance sometimes can be contagious. European men and women built civilisation - bwahahahahaha - FML!! grin

If we were to remove ancient Greece from the equation, because of its location in the Mediterranean, and the fact that those who built the Greek civilisation weren't of the same racial classification as today's Europeans (they were mixed and there were black Greeks) - then civilisation got to the rest of the world before Europe. The Indo-European migration wave started about 2500-3000 years ago. And world civilisation is more than 10,000 years old.

Furthermore, the genesis of today's western civilisation started after the Battle of Marathon. And it collapsed during the dark ages for 500 years. However, the Moorish (yes, Moors from Africa) and Arab influence in Iberia (Southern Europe), which they ruled for 500 years, with Islam (yes, the same Islam), kick-started the European renaissance with the help of the Christian crusaders. The knowledge of modern mathematics, science, astronomy etc. came from the Moors and the Arabs (yes, the same freaking Arabs we all despise today for being backward lol). Heck, the world map, and atlas Christopher Columbus used for his voyage to the Americas was a Moorish map. Even before the Europeans got to Africa during the slavery and colonisation era, they were loads of Kingdoms/Empires with great civilisations scattered across the continent.

Anyway, they need to start teaching you lot history in Nigeria. The ignorance on this forum sometimes is absolutely shocking. Missy89, you're also lacking in that aspect - hence we do disagree from time to time.

Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft. - Winston Churchill



Astonishing that you pass yourself off as a History expert.

First define civilization and then tell us which place is considered the cradle of civilization.

Then show me what role sub-Saharan Africa had in all this and how TV01's ancestors spread civilization. grin
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:48pm On Oct 30, 2014
Missy89:

China tried in Vietnam, they got their asses handed to them in 1967 when the Vietnamese were killing them like rats. They tried to invade Vietnam in other to save Cambodia but it was a humiliating defeat.
Vietnam Imposed their will on Cambodia and China couldn't do anything to stop that.

I agree that Russia's invasion of the far east was strategic to her defense but when we start giving such excuses for invading your neighbor, isn't that a slippery slope? especially when her methods included genocide and forced relocation and assimilation?

Soviet Union's Methods in Hungary (1956) and Czechoslovakia (1968) isn't imperialistic?.

Influencing proxy conflicts in Mozambique in 1977 and 1964? how about that?

Lol, so China going to war with Vietnam, in trying to save Cambodia means China is a colonial power, no? I guess the ECOWAS intervention in Sierra Leone and Liberia, with Nigeria playing the lead role, also means Nigeria is a colonial power, yes? That's you logic right there - sentiments beclouds objective judgement, and you need to stop being sentimental.

All is fair in war, and it comes with genocide sometimes. And in this case the Russians were trying to protect themselves and their territorial integrity, not travelling gazillion of miles around the planet killing folks for no reason. Peep the difference.

Were Hungary and Czechoslovakia socialist/communist states at that point in history, and also part of the conquered territories due to the 2nd world war - yes or no?

Also, wasn't Mozambique about the cold war between West and Soviet Union, with the West also playing a big role in the other side of the conflict? The whole Angola/Mozambique/Namibia/Apartheid South Africa thing was about influence, saving Angola who had the Afro-Cubans fighting for its survival - and destroying the shackles of apartheid in South Africa - not anything imperialistic. Nice try, though.

Got more sentimental points? grin
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:51pm On Oct 30, 2014
Stop quoting me, resident shithead - the dumbest human being that ever walked this planet. grin

If you don't know Africa is the cradle of civilisation, with Egypt and Ethiopia, as the foundation, I can't help you. grin
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 30, 2014
shymexx:
Stop quoting me, resident shithead - the dumbest human being that ever walked this planet. grin

If you don't know Africa is the cradle of civilisation, with Egypt and Ethiopia, as the foundation, I can't help you. grin

Weakling, are you running again? grin grin grin

Tell us what civilization is and what is considered the cradle of civilization.
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by Nobody: 4:57pm On Oct 30, 2014
Civilisation started at the Nile Valley (use your map to locate where it's lol) - tutoring for you again today.

Just stop quoting me, ignorance and being utterly dumb is contagious.

Thanks in advance. wink
Re: How The West Corrodes Our Morality by TV01(m): 5:01pm On Oct 30, 2014
carefreewannabe:


Astonishing that you pass yourself off as a History expert.

First define civilization and then tell us which place is considered the cradle of civilization.

Then show me what role sub-Saharan Africa had in all this and how TV01's ancestors spread civilization. grin

Frau Schleppangel how far grin! Craving attention huh? Ok, Imma throw you some.

I'm sure Shymexx will respond to you accordingly, but this discussion centres around appropriate dressing, lewdness and decency. For anyone to claim that, before white men arrived on this continent, Africans were barbaric butt-nekid savages, is worthy of censure for stupidity and ignorance. In fact it should be bannable offence - especially as when it was repeatedly pointed out a recant was not forthcoming.

Can fish swim backwards grin!


Go back to posting bogus threads in romance cool


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