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You're talking nonsense. Did you also calculate tithes and firstfruits? Religious idiots who can't feed their families three square meals given relatively huge donations to "men of god"? Stupididty!

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ikeugbo:
come to think of it, what made you think that its d poor that made them rich, how much do think a jet is worth and how much is spent on running the place: water light, roads, salaries, food and so on. Do you think its surely the poor that makes ministries rich. On the contrary its the rich and wealthy those who can easily give 10k offering in a single sunday if the poor made them rich calculate the offering at an average of N50 x 130k people in a sine sunday that N6.5m then you would need almost 500weeks to buy a jet not to talk of 4 jets. This is exculsive of running costs and other things. I say this because i have seen the offering baskets of churches made,up of N10 and so on this is not chiding those people but letting you know that God makes men rich and not common man. The rich hardly give except yoi offer them something and for them to give him willingly they see what people outside just sit down and gossip about. Moreoever the days of little beginnings yoi dont know what sacrifices were made to get to where they are. So its seriously opposite and 130k people would not be foolish for 30yrs to follow him its only those jealous that would murmur outside seeing they cannot do what people like him do daily

freshness2020:
...just put Ūя̲̅ ears ground and see dat school established there! Unless God did not sign it!

How do we know whether God sign am?
If the skol takes off God sign am if not God did not sign am.
ie
Head u win; Tail u win. U be correct guyman

donmalcolm21:
. I don't think we are on same page here, I'm talking about the way the Brits treats Nigerians and u are taking it to my person. I'm sorry I've got nothing to tell you again, I thought we are arguing objectively. I'm sorry once again I won't reply your post.

What is this one saying sef.abeg go and sleep

BlackTechnology:
BBC insulting Nigeria since we refused to accept gay/lesbian laws

see this one ..lesbian or no lesbian them better pass una in everything ..they have less resources as a country but yet we crave to enter the UK ..their country is in peace while out country is in chaos ..our business man pastor thinks he can use his business strategy to catch em baa?ko le work mehn

izu777:
make i hear word. watch your tongue man!

please is winners chapel into delivernce stuff? I v never heard any of their member speak of it...
The britons are only jealous of nigerians. They cant imagine how Nigerians will also influence their children through school after geting them through church...

God help us

majekdom2:
WHATS THE COMPARISM BTW GAYS AND TERRORIST ..... ARE THEY EVER THE SAME. YOU EXPECT HIM TO CARRY GUNS AND FIGHT BOKO HARAM ... I DONT GET. GAYS ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH A WRONG MINDSET THAT NEEDS COUNSELLING AND PRAYERS. THEY ARE NOT TERRORIST OR INDIVIDUALS WHO COMMIT MURDER. AM HOPING YOU ARE NOT GAY , IF YOU ARE , PRAY WE NEVER MEET BECAUSE I WONT EVEN PRAY AND COUNSEL YOU . I WILL SHOOT YOU.

Lol your mind set has already failed u. To answer your question you bring your gf for me.and then you will. Judge for yourself after burst am..you talk about the gay people.. What do u have to say about the people that will lynch and burn them to death You see a problem we have here is that we are hypocritical and with misplaced priorities. If gay issue is so serious as people paint them.. What abouut the kidnappings. ritual killings, the aluuu boys the women being rapped on a daily basis etc.. Don't they deserve more serious attention.. Instead when its time to score religious points we just jump up.. The earlier people do away with all this man the better

slimmingcare:
God help us

Y should he help

as Jesus Christ holy reach and popular reach ..even despite all the haters who wanted him crucified ..he never carried a body guard or rode on a stallion...this business pastor get body guards and he even get convoy..but what for if na God really call am?who he dey fear if him way pure ?

Chigold101:
please is winners chapel into delivernce stuff? I v never heard any of their member speak of it...
The britons are only jealous of nigerians. They cant imagine how Nigerians will also influence their children through school after geting them through church...

Your head dey there


Spot on bro


exactly what am saying


They are fighting against that influence


Cos they don't want to bring up brainwashed and inferior minded kids. Like what we have manufactured here

PapiWata:
You are a good man, sir - one who cuts his own path, rather than blindly following the dim-witted herd. I have no further comments to make. You have said it all.

Much resepct Sir. The kinda comments I see from some nairalanders makes me believe that some pple can actually read, write, use d internet, use modern gadgets but still remain stark illiterates

Very good for that s.tupid fake bishop - the thief wants to come to the UK with his fake prophecy to deceive dumb Africans (most Europeans are not interested in religion) Good on the brits - keep the fool out by any means necessary, don't let the theieving charlatan and his satanic "church" anywhere near the shores of the UK, let the thief stay in Nigeria where he is free to deceive and rip off dumb Nigerians.

fireforfire:
I tel u. Uk ehh....
if dem mean pesin, na die.
dey dnt give up in fighting soneone.

like U stay there before right,this guys na mad people,when u dealing with them U got to use U head real well

nora544:
You want to be a christian sorry you are not a real christian because you dinot know the word love, that is important for a christian but nigerian christian love the word money.

PLS DONT TRY TO COVER UP SHITS IN THE NAME OF LOVE. WHAT IS LOVE ? YOU EXPECT ME TO SHOW LOVE TO A THIEF WHO BRAGS HE IS ATHIEF AND IS NOT REPETANT..

oboman:
One needs to run away from you because you still believe in witches? You the kind that will join mob and stone a 'witch' to death.... What if the accused witch is your mum?

YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THERE IS NOTHING LIKE BLACK MAGIC ?

I want you guys to watch this true life movie about Warren Jeffs who perpetrated incests, polygamy and child slavery in the name of religion. We really need government intervention to curb the excesses of these wicked men.

http://viooz.ac/movies/25163-outlaw-prophet-warren-jeffs-2014.html

iamord:
Lol your mind set has already failed u. To answer your question you bring your gf for me.and then you will. Judge for yourself after burst am..you talk about the gay people.. What do u have to say about the people that will lynch and burn them to death You see a problem we have here is that we are hypocritical and with misplaced priorities. If gay issue is so serious as people paint them.. What abouut the kidnappings. ritual killings, the aluuu boys the women being rapped on a daily basis etc.. Don't they deserve more serious attention.. Instead when its time to score religious points we just jump up.. The earlier people do away with all this man the better

WHATS YOUR POINT ... DID YOU READ ANYWHERE IN MY POST WHERE I SUPPORTED CRIMES ... HOMOSEXUALITY IS CRIME TO ME . ANYBODY CAN GET ANGRY WITH THAT . AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BASH THEM LIKE OTHER CRIMINALS.

Nonsense,when poverty strikes a man,they begin to beef the rich and wealthy....How daft can people be to compare Oyedepo to Jesus Christ.....Think of how to make your life better,then the World better and you'll find out you don't have time for all this childish banter.......#FindPurpose........the man you're attacking here will NEVER see your post,not to talk of replying it........Help yourselves!!!!

LORDI:
Black black sheep,have you any wool?

Yes sir, Yes sir, 3 bags full...

majekdom2:
WHATS YOUR POINT ... DID YOU READ ANYWHERE IN MY POST WHERE I SUPPORTED CRIMES ... HOMOSEXUALITY IS CRIME TO ME . ANYBODY CAN GET ANGRY WITH THAT . AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BASH THEM LIKE OTHER CRIMINALS.

What. I am saying is that.. You look at the homosexuals as evil..well nigerians are more evil at heart .. A lot of same se people even contribute more to the economy than the people accusing them and being straight. Land of hyprocrities

Posts like this reminds me of my favorite songs from fela, suffering and smiling, coffin for Mr president. Fela has said it all regarding Nigeria but Nigerians never listen. What a pity.

MASTER SCAMMER OYEDEPO THINKS HE IS DEALING WITH POVERTY STRICKEN, IGNORANT NIGERIANS, MY ADVICE TO HIM AND HIS FELLOW CRIMINALS IS COME TO THE UK AND WATCH HOW FAST THAT YOUR £93M FORTUNE WILL MELT AWAY IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES ON COURT CASES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT AGAINST YOU:

Laughing on his private jet - the £93m pastor accused of exploiting British worshippers


By George Arbuthnott


A church run by a controversial multi-millionaire African preacher has been accused of ‘cynical exploitation’ after its British branch received £16.7 million in donations from followers who were told that God would give them riches in return.

Followers are ferried in double-decker shuttle buses to the church, handed slips inviting them to make debit card payments, and are even told obeying the ministry’s teachings will make them immune from illness.

Today’s Mail on Sunday revelations about the Winners’ Chapel movement, which holds charitable status, have prompted the Charity Commission to carry out an assessment of the church – one of the fastest-growing in the UK.

Winners’ Chapel is part of a worldwide empire of evangelical ministries run by Nigeria’s wealthiest preacher David Oyedepo, who has an estimated £93 million fortune, a fleet of private jets and a Rolls-Royce Phantom.

Dubbed ‘The Pastorpreneur’, he was accused earlier this year of slapping the face of a young woman he said was a witch. The assault case was struck out but is being appealed.

Branches of the church have sprung up in major UK cities in a huge recruitment drive centred on Mr Oyedepo’s ‘prosperity gospel’. This claims that congregants who make regular donations and pay tithes – a ten per cent levy on their income – will be rewarded financially by God.

Followers are urged to target vulnerable people such as the lonely, the sick, the homeless and the suicidal as potential candidates for conversion.

Last night, Labour MP Paul Flynn said Winners’ Chapel was cynically exploiting supporters. ‘They [Winners’ Chapel] are making clearly spurious claims and it seems to be a cynical exploitation of the gullible,’ he said.

Referring to the slapping incident, Mr Flynn added: ‘What is also alarming is the reported violence and the lack of respect for the status of women. It’s taking us back to a previous age of ignorance and prejudice that we all thought the church had escaped.’

This newspaper’s investigation can further disclose:
Congregants are handed a payment slip requesting payments using cheque, cash or debit card when they enter London’s Winners’ Chapel.
Donations to the ministry in England almost doubled from £2.21 million to £4.37 million between 2006 and 2010.
Mr Oyedepo’s superchurch in Nigeria received £794,000 or 73 per cent of the charitable donations paid out by the British Winners’ Chapel between 2007 and 2010. This was despite claims in Africa that he is enriching himself at the expense of his devotees.
The registered charity has spent £6.81 million on evangelism and ‘praise, worship and fellowship’.
The church’s ‘Joseph Squad’ preaches in British prisons and has a weekly broadcast named ‘Liberation Hour’ on satellite and cable TV here.

In the past three years, Winners’ Chapel churches have been established in Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds and Bradford, adding to those in London, Manchester, Dublin and Glasgow.

An undercover Mail on Sunday reporter attended Sunday services at Winners’ Chapel’s ‘London HQ’ in Dartford, Kent, which attracts 1,000 congregants – chiefly African and Caribbean immigrants. It is run like ‘a business conference’ by Mr Oyedepo’s son, David Oyedepo Jnr. Packed buses deliver singing worshippers from South-East London, Essex and Kent to the huge auditorium.

The reporter saw a payment slip being given to every person entering the church encouraging them to donate money by cheque or cash or to fill in a form with their debit card details. The slip said tithes should be paid separately using a ‘Kingdom Investment Booklet’ and the reporter was informed that payments could also be made by phone. A pastor told the worshippers: ‘You shall be financially promoted after this service in Jesus’s name if you are ready to honour the Lord therefore with all your givings, your tithes, your offerings, your Kingdom investment, your sacrifices.’

Congregants were told to fill in their slips and hold them above their heads while the donations were blessed


The service was interspersed with testimonies. ‘I received a bill from the bank that I didn’t understand, so I prayed,’ said one congregant. ‘A few days later, the bank wrote to apologise for their mistake – Hallelujah!’ ‘Hallelujah,’ the audience shouted back.

Congregants were told they could gain favour by persuading others to follow Mr Oyedepo’s teachings. His son said: ‘Look around you. Someone is sick and already wishing he or she were dead, that is a fruit ripe to harvest. Someone is confounded and considering suicide as an option, that is another fruit that is ripe to harvest.

‘Someone else is lonely and wondering if there is any future for him, that is another fruit ripe to harvest.

‘Also there are many men and women, young and old that are homeless, these are fruits ripe to harvest.’

The reporter was taken, with 20 other new recruits, to a room where preachers gave sermons claiming acceptance of the Lord would prevent them ever being ill or suffering misfortune.

The Mail on Sunday has seen video footage of Mr Oyedepo striking a woman across the face and condemning her to hell after she said she was a ‘witch for Jesus’. He attacked her in a Winners’ Chapel superchurch, believed to be in Nigeria, in front of worshippers. A separate video shows him saying: ‘I slapped a witch here last year!’

In May, he was sued for £800,000 over the alleged assault. The case was struck out – a decision which is now reported to have been appealed.

The Winners’ Chapel movement, also known as the Living Faith Church, has hundreds of churches in Nigeria and across Africa, the Middle East, the UK and the US.

Mr Oyedepo has received fierce criticism in Africa. One Nigerian journalist accused him of ‘leading a growing list of pastorpreneurs – church founders exploiting the passion and emotion that Christianity commands to feather their nests’.


Catholic Cardinal Anthony Okogie criticised such preachers for placing materialism above Jesus’s message. He reportedly said: ‘They have been skinning the flock, taking out of the milk of the flock.’

Among Mr Oyedepo’s fleet of aircraft are said to be a Gulfstream 1 and Gulfstream 4 private jets. It is also claimed he and his wife, Faith, travel in expensive Jeeps flanked by convoys of siren-blaring vehicles. He is the senior pastor of Faith Tabernacle, a 50,000-seat auditorium in Lagos reputed to be the largest church in the world, and runs a publishing company that distributes books carrying his message across the world.

His other business interests span manufacturing, petrol stations, bakeries, water purification factories, recruitment, a university, restaurants, supermarkets and real estate. The latest addition is a commercial airline named Dominion Airlines.

A Charity Commission spokesman said: ‘The Charity Commission is currently assessing what, if any, regulatory role there is to play with regard to the complaints made against the World Mission Agency. It is important to clarify that this does not constitute an investigation at this stage.’

Winners’ Chapel administrator Tunde Disu declined to comment.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220833/Laughing-private-jet--93m-pastor-accused-exploiting-British-worshippers.html#ixzz3IVfCcMul
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drealstan:
You're talking nonsense. Did you also calculate tithes and firstfruits? Religious idiots who can't feed their families three square meals given relatively huge donations to "men of god"? Stupididty!

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and wise guy like you decide to say that its stupidity well one i have seen is that knowledge aint wisdom its what you do with knowledge that shows wisdom. 130k people aint stupid that i know for sure if you dont have money or work you would not pay tithe its only working people that pay tithe. I dont like dragging such issues and only stated my opinions take it or leave it lets get our heads out of the sand and we would see clearly

Jessewizy:
when the christian missionaries built schools in Nigeria, it was all free!

WHATS THE STATE OF THE MISSIONARY SCHOOLS NOW AND WILL YOU SEND YOUR CHILDREN THERE.

qhiwegh:
The BBC's days are numbered. God will surely pay them back for the insults to this Holy Man of God.

Lol.. U try them and u and any person that puts hand will wreck.. And gold will gladly fold his hands cos u are not thinking

donmalcolm21:
let's always potrays ourselves in good light to the outside world, we have no other Nigeria, You are a Yoruba and I'm ibo but belive me to them Brits we are all piece of shit and good for nothing people.

ONLY IF MAJORITY OF AFRICANS CAN UNDERSTAND THIS ... AFRICA WOULD CHANGE ITS STATE.

tivta:
Posts like this reminds me of my favorite songs from fela, suffering and smiling, coffin for Mr president. Fela has said it all regarding Nigeria but Nigerians never listen. What a pity.

u forgot to add indiscipline

BreezyRita:
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Advice: when it comes, don't go blaming the witches in your village! [/i]

CALABAR WITCH
This confirmed the FACT that you are one of the Calabar witches working for Oyedepo.......YOU ARE EXPOSED!

hardywaltz:
Abeg make I hear word isn't he a greedy fellow? go and threaten the Brits that have given him a persona non garanta status in UK.

see your grammar
my brother please upgrade your self

donmalcolm21:
. If you understand the way the world works. Eg Saudi Arabia discriminates against women seriously but they have a lot of foundations and companies in the UK. The UK turns a blind eye to it

THE WEST NEVER SEES ANYTHINFG WRONG IN THEIR LAWS BUT SEES EVERYTHING WRONG IN EVERY OTHER LAW THAT OPPOSES THEIRS AND THEN THEY START WITH SANCTIONS. IF AFRICANS CAN BE PROUD OF THEIR CULTUREE AND STOP THIS " WORLD IS CHANGING SHIT ".

He be milking his congregation and living large, accumulating wealth and cruising on a private jet. God go catch you one day.

Some naïve ones here will be defending him...continue to be blind.