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elampiro:
Without Di Maria, Blind, Shaw, Rojo, Herrera, our first three matches under Gaal were more horrible to watch than what Moyes served us last season.

Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....

SetrakusRa:
Petty excuse! I see most of you pro-moyes are wishing LvG fails in Utd.. Well, you ain't gonna see that. There's a big difference between Van Gaal's United and Moyes', bar injuries, big name signings, suspensions etc. Moyes is miles away from LvG's level, his CV and youth policy will continue shutting critics.

The fact that the board gave SAF the privilege of appointing his successor, who eventually choose his countryman, shows that he wasn't the right man to lead England's best, also shows that there wasn't a proper review by the club.

SetrakusRa:
Victim of? May I remind you that those few players you listed won the league before Moyes came? Do you know that Van Gaal used few of those players to win the ICC cup?

SetrakusRa:
Those players you label flops who left Utd are all starters in some of the biggest teams in europe. Moyes had players of such calibre and miserably flopped united to 7th.


Pls, stop the d!ckriding.. Moyes put the F in failure!

SetrakusRa:
Petty excuse! I see most of you pro-moyes are wishing LvG fails in Utd.. Well, you ain't gonna see that. There's a big difference between Van Gaal's United and Moyes', bar injuries, big name signings, suspensions etc. Moyes is miles away from LvG's level, his CV and youth policy will continue shutting critics.

The fact that the board gave SAF the privilege of appointing his successor, who eventually choose his countryman, shows that he wasn't the right man to lead England's best, also shows that there wasn't a proper review by the club.



Victim of? May I remind you that those few players you listed won the league before Moyes came? Do you know that Van Gaal used few of those players to win the ICC cup?

Those players you label flops who left Utd are all starters in some of the biggest teams in europe. Moyes had players of such calibre and miserably flopped united to 7th.


Pls, stop the d!ckriding.. Moyes put the F in failure!

elampiro:
Manuel Pellegrini

Who was this man before he won the EPL for Man City?

Is Moyes the only coach who had not won trophies upon trophies before getting a big job?

SIRcumalot:
LVG has his fault we've all chosen to be blinded to this fault if you don't know this browse through his wikipedia entry
[size=32pt]but if we don't start winning after this break no amount of "good football" will save him [/size]

elampiro:
No one has ever argued about CVs here. What we argued is that at this same number of matches, Moyes did better. That argument ended last week. The argument on ground now is Moyes work at Everton. He pulled them out of the gutters into a respectable side. With limited budget.

Coogar and I never argued about Moyes vs Gaal today. You and one other guy brought this up without proper understanding of the argument.

How come Gaal sacked all the supposed SAF players if they were really good?

So why were they sold by Gaal?

Like Ferdinand, Chicharito, Cleverley, Zaha, Vidic etc Abegi

coogar:
see him shooting his own foot!
pellegrini won plenty of titles in south america before his sojourn in europe. moyes hasn't won anything in his life.

there's a big difference!

coogar:
rooney was the only candidate in the preseason. RVP never made the preseason & it would be wrong to hand it over to him without having seen his performance for united.

who else is rooney's senior? only fletcher....and fletcher can't be fit to save a chimp's life in a game reserve. united's lack of senior players handed rooney the captaincy, not van gaal. had evra, rio or vidic stayed on then rooney wouldn't have ever been made the captain.

i repeat, moyes is a monumental failure!

SetrakusRa:
Funny you should say that when you posted:

"Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....

SetrakusRa:
Funny you should say that when you posted:


Confidence! Moyes' crazy man management and silly media comments have reduced player's confidence to nothing. T[b]he team was broken needed an overhaul[/b]. Even with Di Maria, Blind, Rojo, Herrera etc with Moyes now when the league is even more competitive, y'all will be praying for QPR to drop points so Utd can get off the relegation zone.

I never joined the argument, I posted an opinion which you decided to quote.

elampiro:
Now you agreed SAF team needed an overhaul.

elampiro:
We start counting from Europe. Else we could count Amodu, some coaches in Japan and South America, Egypt.

He won nothing in Europe for about 9 years.

RuuDie:
This is like throwing water into a basket and expecting it to stay. Guy, you get brain pass like dis na!

SIRcumalot:
LVG has his faults EVEN NOW BUT we've all chosen to be blinded to this [s]fault if you don't know this browse through his wikipedia entry [/s]
but if we don't start winning after this break no amount of "good football" will save him

RuuDie:
And after 150m+ spent, I can see how our "fantastic" new saviour LVG is steam-rolling everyone with his tactical genius!

Hindsight is a wonderful bi*atch... let me stick my neck out and say; if LVG had come in directly after SAF, UTD would have been relegated!

elampiro:
I can't remember posting this in the afternoon when Coogar and I had a bout.

Now you agreed SAF team needed an overhaul.

mcfarlin:
And moyes was playing good football right?

mcfarlin:
Admit it van gaal is trying to cover up the leaks by SAF and moyes because moyes created his own and failed to clean up the mess left by SAF!
Moyes didn't have the current injury crises lvg has or did he?

RuuDie:
I always cast our minds back to a certain example...
if Moyes had done a sub like Wilson for RVP in a match UTD where we are losing what would have been the response here!?

RuuDie:
Ah, bless you for reminding me... the very same coogar here blamed it on Moyes' GUERILLA-like training methods... LVG must be running an ISIS-like training ground then!

Absolutely amazing!

RuuDie:
I always cast our minds back to a certain example...
if Moyes had done a sub like Wilson for RVP in a match UTD where we are losing what would have been the response here!?

coogar:
why should we start counting from europe? argentine league is not better than most european leagues? in the days of intercontinental cup, south american clubs won it more. they always räpe their european counterparts.

moyes has never left europe to manage & yet his win ratio is 44% - moyes is a disgrace to all scottish managers that have existed. he's a failure, born to fail, living to fail & he would die failing. 18 months contract for a manager you deemed good? 18 months? 1.5 years managerial contract?



what's this supposed to mean?
are you hungry or does your brain lack the required amount of oxygen? stick to the points & quit the psycho-babbling.

RuuDie:
Yeah, we are playing [b] very good vintage football ... yes, very much like Brazil of the 70s[/b]



Ah, bless you for reminding me... the very same coogar here blamed it on Moyes' GUERILLA-like training methods... LVG must be running an ISIS-like training ground then!

Absolutely amazing!

Dadehmola:
I expect LVG to come good in the end but Abeg, make we no deceive ourselves, some of the results we've got under him are totally unacceptable.

We only managed to draw three of these games; Swansea, Sunderland, MK dons, burnley, westbrom..yet we continue to blame injuries.

Nawa oo

coogar:
how can you remember when your fingers type faster than you process information.




SAF team only needed 2 good midfielders last season. scholes re-retired & giggs was ageing badly. all moyes had to do was go to bilbao & sign herrera & m'vila. yet, he còcked it up.

the fool ran after players who cannot be arsëd with moyes. thiago, fabregas, etc were all flirted with & they turned moyes down cos they don't even believe in moyes' philosophy.

bang....van gaal showed up and quality players came from nowhere. let's not forget united had lost their european place at this time but every player still wanted to play for LVG.

moyes as a manager of a seeded team in europe couldn't sign any top class player. his last option was to go sign fellaini. he spent £28m on a £20m midfielder. i don't even know how anyone can rate moyes.

elampiro:
European teams won't do well in intercontinental cups just as big teams don't do well when they drop to Europa or are in the Carling cup. DISTRACTION.

elampiro:
* Moyes wanted to access the team but he didnt know the players were so aged. Ferdinand legs were more tired than Distin who is older.

* Moyes wanted to move Man United in the same direction as Real Madrid. He didnt want to start signing average players. Otherwise he would have spent 200 million in panic.

coogar:
how can you remember when your fingers type faster than you process information.

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elampiro:
Without Di Maria, Blind, Shaw, Rojo, Herrera, our first three matches under Gaal were more horrible to watch than what Moyes served us last season.

Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....