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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by Onuokwu: 7:31pm On Dec 05, 2014
segcymoor:
Block work in progress!

Hello Segcy, Is there any reason why you didn't approach this building like your other projects? I mean finishing with the pillars and concrete slabs before doing the block work?
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by eudoh940(m): 9:03pm On Dec 05, 2014
Nice work sir. I've missed alot. But sch won't allow me stay any longer. Tnx so much sir. I learnt a lot
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by eudoh940(m): 9:06pm On Dec 05, 2014
Am still at ur back sir
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 1:02pm On Dec 06, 2014
Onuokwu:

Hello Segcy, Is there any reason why you didn't approach this building like your other projects? I mean finishing with the pillars and concrete slabs before doing the block work?
Hmmn. I ve been expecting this question. Bros na money o. frame structure is financial involved
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by sako28: 5:54am On Dec 07, 2014
segcymoor:

Hmmn. I ve been expecting this question. Bros na money o. frame structure is financial involved

Please which of these method is cheaper. Is it the pillars and concrete slabs first or this method you are using now.

Thank you and well-done
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 2:43pm On Dec 07, 2014
sako28:

Please which of these method is cheaper. Is it the pillars and concrete slabs first or this method you are using now.
Thank you and well-done
Frame structure is technically and financially involved. You may save some money if you set block first
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by PeoplesArmy: 7:53pm On Dec 07, 2014
segcymoor:

Frame structure is technically and financially involved. You may save some money if you set block first

OK. But ultimately, are there implications for quality differences depending on the type used?
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 1:28pm On Dec 08, 2014
Basically there are some structure you can't compromise on frame structure if good results is to be Achieved. Minimum of 3 floor and some in accordance with structural engineer recommendations

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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 5:46pm On Dec 09, 2014
Work in progress!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by yongnoble(m): 9:09am On Dec 10, 2014
smallsmall:

I dont understand the above?
Are you saying that Bricks was used instead of Blocks ... and this caused the collapse of the building?
Or Blocks was used instead of Bricks .... and this caused the collapse of the building?
There are lots of building highrise projects around Lekki/Ajah/V.I. axis being undertaken by prominent building Construction Companies (Like Pearse Construction Coy) and they use these red bricks in-part, in making their deckings.
Some of these building have been completed without any problem at all. I have been watching this trend of mixing red brick with concrete in making a decking but dont understand the "technology behind it.
Can anyone with adequate knowledge of modern building technique, chip-in their own experience, to shed more light on this method?
I am not questioning your own building here, l am speaking generally.

I have been following this thread from the sidelines, I usually do not comment much on topic, I rather prefer to just sit back and watch. But it seems your question has not been properly answered.

Responding to it, basically the traditional suspended floor of mass concrete usually works on the basic principle of designing the slab to be able to carry its own weight (dead weight) plus live weight (humans/furniture etc) and these loads are transferred to the corresponding beams and then to the columns before finally to the foundation below.

However, this type of floor where hollow clay-pots (red bricks) are used is referred to a Ribbed Floor. Like the name implies, basically its a system of constructing several little "T" like beams to form a rib system. These little "T" combined together forms a flat surface "-"at the top and the rib hangs below "|" .

Lets take 10 "T"s for example and arrange them in an array thus
"TTTTTTTTTT"
you can clearly see that the top of the "T"s forms a flat surface, which is the slab and the bottom parts leaves a rib like structure of with voids(empty space) in between them. What you see with the clay-pots is an attempt to fill up those voids so that it can be properly dressed and plastered but the truth is that those bricks are not structural members (ie they do not carry/transmit any loads). As a matter of fact, the floor would still hold. It would even be stronger because these pots are actually imposed loads on the slabs, apart from bearing it own load and the live load, it still has to carry these bricks (though the self weights of these bricks are considered during the design). So logically, it would mean that if these bricks are ignored during construction, it definitely means there would be lesser load for the slab to carry.

Why engineers continue to use these bricks rather than leaving it void, its basically because of aesthetics and it is also quite cumbersome in preparing the form-work with the all the ribs. I'm actually finding it difficult to explain this in simple terms, maybe a diagram could suffice

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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 7:40pm On Dec 10, 2014
Slab formwork in progress!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by Aventures(m): 8:35pm On Dec 10, 2014
yongnoble:

I have been following this thread from the sidelines, I usually do not comment much on topic, I rather prefer to just sit back and watch. But it seems your question has not been properly answered.
Responding to it, basically the traditional suspended floor of mass concrete usually works on the basic principle of designing the slab to be able to carry its own weight (dead weight) plus live weight (humans/furniture etc) and these loads are transferred to the corresponding beams and then to the columns before finally to the foundation below.
However, this type of floor where hollow clay-pots (red bricks) are used is referred to a Ribbed Floor. Like the name implies, basically its a system of constructing several little "T" like beams to form a rib system. These little "T" combined together forms a flat surface "-"at the top and the rib hangs below "|" .
Lets take 10 "T"s for example and arrange them in an array thus
"TTTTTTTTTT"
you can clearly see that the top of the "T"s forms a flat surface, which is the slab and the bottom parts leaves a rib like structure of with voids(empty space) in between them. What you see with the clay-pots is an attempt to fill up those voids so that it can be properly dressed and plastered but the truth is that those bricks are not structural members (ie they do not carry/transmit any loads). As a matter of fact, the floor would still hold. It would even be stronger because these pots are actually imposed loads on the slabs, apart from bearing it own load and the live load, it still has to carry these bricks (though the self weights of these bricks are considered during the design). So logically, it would mean that if these bricks are ignored during construction, it definitely means there would be lesser load for the slab to carry.
Why engineers continue to use these bricks rather than leaving it void, its basically because of aesthetics and it is also quite cumbersome in preparing the form-work with the all the ribs. I'm actually finding it difficult to explain this in simple terms, maybe a diagram could suffice
very good analysis. when the clay pot is not used then it is called waffle slab I guess!
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 2:53pm On Dec 11, 2014
[quote author=Aventures post=28766932]very good analysis. when the clay pot is not used then it is called waffle slab I guess![/quote
Good indeed!

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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 9:50pm On Dec 11, 2014
Reinforcement work in progress!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 1:15pm On Dec 12, 2014
Suspended slab : intended to be cast on or before 27th
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 7:22pm On Dec 12, 2014
Men at Work!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 7:32am On Dec 13, 2014
segcymoor:
Men at Work!
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 3:54pm On Dec 13, 2014
Formwork in progress!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 3:40pm On Dec 14, 2014
Happy Sunday!
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 12:23pm On Dec 15, 2014
Reinforcement work in progress! Update shortly
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 5:53pm On Dec 15, 2014
Reinforcement work

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 10:16pm On Dec 15, 2014
segcymoor:
Reinforcement work
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by leftone: 9:18am On Dec 16, 2014
segcymoor:
Reinforcement work in progress! Update shortly

OMO,this person mean business ooo...he get money on ground and it has helped the project.
whole thing is taking shape.
great job!!!
whats the entire budget of the project if you would pls share?
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 10:02pm On Dec 16, 2014
leftone:

OMO,this person mean business ooo...he get money on ground and it has helped the project.
whole thing is taking shape.
great job!!!
whats the entire budget of the project if you would pls share?
The Contract sum for Carcass is less than 15m even with Pilling Foundation

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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by mufutau55(m): 10:05pm On Dec 16, 2014
segcymoor:

The Contract sum for Carcass is less than 15m even with Pilling Foundation

Wow! That will be good cost if you can achieve that. Keep up the good work.

Hajji M.
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 10:12pm On Dec 16, 2014
mufutau55:

Wow! That will be good cost if you can achieve that. Keep up the good work.
Hajji M.
mufutau55:

Wow! That will be good cost if you can achieve that. Keep up the good work.
Hajji M.

Hmmn. We shall see in the next few months. But the last things to do is to ask for more.....It has negative effect on Integrity!
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by yongnoble(m): 3:25pm On Dec 17, 2014
Aventures:
very good analysis. when the clay pot is not used then it is called waffle slab I guess!
Not exactly. Ribbed floors usually span in only one direction (along the shorter span) while Waffle Slab spans in both directions.
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 10:14am On Dec 18, 2014
Reinforcement work in progress!

Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 8:34am On Dec 19, 2014
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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by segcymoor(m): 3:57pm On Dec 19, 2014
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Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by pss: 1:33am On Dec 20, 2014
Please you advise the cost of this foundation?
Re: PILE FOUNDATION FOR TERRACE BUILDING AT LEKKI by lyvin: 10:08am On Dec 20, 2014
@Segmoor wht mixture ratio do u use for dpc. Nice job

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