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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by pweetyz(f): 8:38am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:i'm not exactly good at giving Bible quotations but that does not imply that i am wrong in any way if you say that the bible is the only place where the tenets of christendom can be found then what happens to the revelations God makes to people..what happens to the instructions given by God to his faithful servants after the bible was written..should they be rendered void and untrue simply because they are not contained in the bible.. Peter being canonized does not in any way portray him as a demi-god that should be worshipped..it only attaches to him the honour that he fully deserves for living a holy life while on earth saints are to be emulated not worshipped.. saints are people who lived righteous lives while on earth who made tremendous sacrifices for the lord and rendered various services to God they are not in any way worshipped..children are taught about saints in order to correct their erring ways and make them see the beauty of serving the Lord i'd advise you to get a book of saints from a nearby catholic church cos only then can you understand their purpose they are only to he honoured..same way steven was made a matyr cos he died for his faith..thats the same way some saints are killed cos of their faith 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 9:12am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: If you don't accept that there's more meaning to that passage then I don't have anything again to say. You can burn your candle,incense, anything burnable if you want to...It's a matter of personal conviction. But the question I'm still asking is... Why do you burn this incense? If it is to save as a catalyst to your prayers or to make your prayers more pleasing to God...this is where you fall into the trap of mysticism.Cause the Bible says we should approach God with confidence and full assurance of faith. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by safarigirl(f): 9:34am On Dec 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony:that last post he made about Catholics following old 'barbaric' doctrines is laughable coming from a protestant. The tithing that EVERY protestant church has made COMPULSORY is it not an 'old barbaric doctrine'? Is it then sensible to accuse the Catholic church- the most forward-thinking church of following barbaric doctrines? 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Johnnoo(m): 9:34am On Dec 21, 2014 |
... casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ (2Cor. 10:5) 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 9:35am On Dec 21, 2014 |
you lot are just hilarious........ 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 9:36am On Dec 21, 2014 |
safarigirl: really? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by LillyAnne(f): 9:39am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo:Nobody wants to reply this one? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Emmalot121(m): 9:39am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Kelgabriel5(m): 9:45am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:the lord does not change abi, so why should we change worshiping formular .I dnt get all dis 'mr & mrs churches'. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by yomalex(m): 9:46am On Dec 21, 2014 |
All these arguments are caused by mistaking Simon Peter( the disciple) for Simon Magus(the sorcerer who wanted to buy the holy spirit). |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by saymalcolm(m): 9:50am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9: Hope you understand that the language of christianity is not even English. Jesus brought the gospel to men in Aramaic and as a result of the spread of the gospel, it was translated. Your argument based on language is moot. 3 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by major466(m): 9:53am On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 9:53am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: Lolz... don't try to play on our intelligence... The Bible is just a compilation of Scriptures written by Men of God in the olden days...And also a recording of the acts of apostles... words of wisdom and guidance. So even if it was compiled by the Catholic church... It doesn't give them the right to tamper with whatsoever is written therein as it was inspired of the holy spirit. Mind you...The Bible is just a modern name for the 'The Scriptures' which Jesus repeatedly used throughout his stay on earth. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Kelgabriel5(m): 9:55am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:why do u pray,why do u sing wen prayn,insence is a divine mixture containing myrrh, d same myrrh given to Jesus as a child.it is a purifyin smoke which only God can answer why its pleasin 2 him,b careful wit wat u are sayin abeg |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 9:58am On Dec 21, 2014 |
safarigirl: Most forward thinking?.. I laugh in Safari 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Aikon: 9:58am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Where is uboma? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by uduokirika1(m): 10:01am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:Are u aware d catholic church compiled d Bible as a single book today! Do you know d process of its compilation? D church (catholic) had existed close to a thousand years before d bible. What was in place then were series of scriptures and books. So many of these books didn't make it into d bible. Most of d catholic practices u criticise preceeded d bible. My question if u accepted d Bible compiled by d Catholic church as an authority and a divine book how come u turn around calling them occultic? Are u insinuating dat d Bible itself which is a product of Catholicsm is occultic too? 6 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Emyben(m): 10:01am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: Correct Response |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Truman155(m): 10:03am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Men can do anytin 4 relegion .....kill for it, fight for it.... Anything but live for it 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by CMARY(m): 10:03am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:I wonder if you reason with Luke 1vs28 the Hail Mary word of God spoken directly by God to Mary through the Angel. With this word Mary became pregnant without knowing any man. LK 1VS42 Of all women you are the most blessed and blessed is the fruit of your womb. This was a statement made by Elizabeth to Mary under the deep influence of the Holy Spirit. If one has the true and authentic spirit of God one will not be afraid to repeat the word the Angel said to Mary or repeat the words which the Holy Spirit said through Mary. Modified: How come you think if i Say to Mary Holy Mary it is out of place? When Lk1vs48 says that all generations shall call her blessed. She needs to be Holy to merit this title Blessed. And for her to give birth to our spotless saviour Jesus she needs to be spotless that's why she is full of grace and the Immaculate conception. Jesus is God check John 20vs28, philipians 2vs6, Is7vs14, is9vs6 etc. It clearly says that Jesus is God. So Mary the mother of Jesus is the mother me God. Let me ask you again, what is wrong in telling Mary to pray for me or for us? Ok go to 1thes 5vs25 and see where St paul says Brethren Pray for us? MARY IS STRONGER THAN BRETHREN. So you can say Mary pray for us. Go to 1tim2vs1 St paul desired that supplication, intercession be made for all men. Go there and see for yourself. So what is wrong if i ask Mary to intercede for me? You can also go to Jeremiah 42vs 2 and see people praying in a similar fashion to Jeremiah like we pray to Mary. So my brother what is wrong if i say Mary pray for us? 8 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 10:04am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Kelgabriel5: I pray cause Jesus prayed ...I sing cause the disciples sang....and they are all recorded in the Bible. But Jesus didn't use incense while praying...neither his disciples... So if you can't answer my questions... just read along and get wisdom 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Emyben(m): 10:06am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage: On whose authority do you paste the stickers of your Daddy Overseer on your cars, homes, offices etc to the point of adoring him? God or your Pastors? 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 10:06am On Dec 21, 2014 |
I so much love the Catholic Church, every practice has its root from the bible. ... I had so much doubts about some practices but a seminarian cleared them all... Yeah, I'm a staunch Catholic, I will remain a Catholic and I will die a Catholic , so help me God.. AMEN Finally, may God continue to direct our Holy father, may He give him the wisdom to lead us through the right path so that Catholic Church will keep growing from strength to strength and after our journey on earth, may we be rewarded with eternal life in Heaven, AMEN... 5 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by safarigirl(f): 10:10am On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez:lol....in my opinion. I do have a couple of issues with their doctrines, but it's none of what herald9 raised 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 10:11am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9: At the emboldened is where you, like many others show you do not understand religion in relation to humanity. There is only one God served through different channels. The difference in these channels is that different belief system evolved along cultural lines which include the history in the manual (supposed Holy Book), language, dramatist personae in the manuals, style of dressing etc Judaism - Jews, Christianity - Europeans, Bhuddism - Asians, Isese - Yoruba, Islam - Arab, Egyptians had theirs, Romans had theirs, Greeks had theirs and the AmerIndian had theirs too etc. As a result, no religion has a special God but they have special ways of reaching one God and no belief is superior nor guarantees spiritual safety or heaven/hell. Religion, other than filling man's hunger to connect with the creator of him and his environment, also serves as a tool to create and sustain a sain society. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 10:13am On Dec 21, 2014 |
safarigirl: Lol OK....me.....everything about erm doesn't gel with me....well..... I believe one of the greatest gift God gave to Man is FREEWILL... so whatever rocks your boat..... *swallows Malaria pills and squeezes face*...damn I hate drugs!!! |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 10:14am On Dec 21, 2014 |
saymalcolm: Neither is the language of Christianity Latin 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by sparta(f): 10:14am On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:or pastor jemigbon or late kenneth Hagin or Benson idahosa. Hahahaha. Enjoying your discussion. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by soludo93(m): 10:14am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: You misconstrued the meaning of the scriptures. It follows that the incense John saw represents the prayers of the saints (saints are living believers not dead people who served God when they were alive). It wasn't an incense they burnt on earth was represented in heaven. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by tola9ja: 10:16am On Dec 21, 2014 |
the act of dogmatism 1 Like
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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by soludo93(m): 10:16am On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: You misconstrued the meaning of the scriptures. It follows that the incense John saw represents the prayers of the saints (saints are living believers not dead people who served God when they were alive). It wasn't an incense they burnt on earth was represented in heaven. |
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