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malvisguy212:
You want to know about God, you chose wikipedia I see, satan is manipulating you guys, I tell you the truth, the time will come when you will regrets every word coming out from your mou

Ridiculous...smh

malvisguy212:
I advice, we have said enough, it is only God that will free there soul.

Century before athiest even came to
existence satan has been using
the same trick he use for eve to deceive
mankind, you guys shuld realy
consider this:
satan not only rejected God by
attempting to supplant Him, but he
urged humans to do likewise. Satan
urged Eve to choose against God
for her own self-fulfilment: in
genesis3:1-5.
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall
not eat of any
tree in the garden’?” And the woman said
to the serpent, “We may eat
of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but
God said, ‘You shall not eat of
the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of
the garden, neither shall you touch it,
lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the
woman, “You will
not surely die. For God knows that when
you eat of it your eyes will be
opened, and you will be like God,
knowing good and evil.”
NOW, LET US ANALIZE GENESIS1:3-5.
The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict
God’s statements and, finally, urge
rebellion in seeking equality with God.
How dos this relate to athiest?
This manifests in atheists as
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first
place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing
God with the self. This
satanic deception appeals strongly to
atheists as it bolsters two of
their desired delusions: 1) absolute
autonomy—being free to do as
they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate
accountability—there are no
eternal consequences for doing as they
please. THIS IS EXACLTLY THE
TRICK SATAN USE ON EVE THAT IS WHAT
IS HAPPENING TO ATHIEST.

Correct.

malvisguy212:
I advice, we have said enough, it is only God that will free there soul.

Century before athiest even came to
existence satan has been using
the same trick he use for eve to deceive
mankind, you guys shuld realy
consider this:
satan not only rejected God by
attempting to supplant Him, but he
urged humans to do likewise. Satan
urged Eve to choose against God
for her own self-fulfilment: in
genesis3:1-5.
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall
not eat of any
tree in the garden’?” And the woman said
to the serpent, “We may eat
of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but
God said, ‘You shall not eat of
the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of
the garden, neither shall you touch it,
lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the
woman, “You will
not surely die. For God knows that when
you eat of it your eyes will be
opened, and you will be like God,
knowing good and evil.”
NOW, LET US ANALIZE GENESIS1:3-5.
The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict
God’s statements and, finally, urge
rebellion in seeking equality with God.
How dos this relate to athiest?
This manifests in atheists as
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first
place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing
God with the self. This
satanic deception appeals strongly to
atheists as it bolsters two of
their desired delusions: 1) absolute
autonomy—being free to do as
they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate
accountability—there are no
eternal consequences for doing as they
please. THIS IS EXACLTLY THE
TRICK SATAN USE ON EVE THAT IS WHAT
IS HAPPENING TO ATHIEST.

Correct

truthman2012:
How do you know it is God? Which God?

A GOD that cannot be demonstrated by mankind.

Elkewwty:
A GOD that cannot be demonstrated by mankind.

Which God is this? A God that cannot be demonstrated by mankind.

How did you know him/her?

Where does he live and when did he create man?

What does he require from man and where did he say so?

I'm very curious to know your God. Pleas answer the questions as itemised.

truthman2012:
Which God is this? A God that cannot be demonstrated by mankind.

Yes, he cannot be demostrated by mankind the way yahweh/allah/jesus were demostrated. he is an enigma.

He universal creative force greater than that demonstrated by mankind, supported by personal observation of laws and designs in nature and the universe, perpetuated and validated by the innate ability of human reason coupled with the rejection of claims made by individuals and organized religions of having received special divine revelation.

How did you know him/her?

The wonderful structure of the universe, and everything we behold in the system of the creation, prove to us, far better than books (koran and bible) can do, the existence of a God,and at the same time proclaim His attributes."

Where does he live and when did he create man?

What does he require from man and where did he say so?

All these cannot be demostrated.

I'm very curious to know your God. Pleas answer the questions as itemised.

Now kindly do the same by answering my questions on the first page of this thread.

Elkewwty:
Yes, he cannot be demostrated by mankind the way yahweh/allah/jesus were demostrated. he is an enigma.

He universal creative force greater than that demonstrated by mankind, supported by personal observation of laws and designs in nature and the universe, perpetuated and validated by the innate ability of human reason coupled with the rejection of claims made by individuals and organized religions of having received special divine revelation.



The wonderful structure of the universe, and everything we behold in the system of the creation, prove to us, far better than books (koran and bible) can do, the existence of a God,and at the same time proclaim His attributes."



All these cannot be demostrated.



Now kindly do the same by answering my questions on the first page of this thread.

This is wonderful. You look at the wonderful structure of the universe and concluded they must have been made by a God. So, you perceive your God and not know him. No relationship. What a god. No wonder he cannot be demonstrated. An unknown god.

Save me the time to seach for your questions, ask them again.

This is very serious. This is my first time on nairaland seeing muslims silenced by the truth. What is next for you guys now? It is a wise decision to come to Jesus who promised us heaven. Why should you prefer hell that allah promised to heaven Jesus promised.

Don't mind the atheists who have nothing, I mean not under any promise. They are like a sheep without a shepered, wandering in the wilderness.

Some people claimed they believing in God is assurance to heaven, that is a big lie, first, you must accept Jesus as your lord and saviour.


The Bible never states that believing in
God will get you into heaven, and
confirms that such is the case in James
chapter 2, verse 19.
Satan (the Devil) believes God exists. In
fact, he talks with God in Job chapters
1 and 2. Yet, he is not going to heaven
—he is going to be cast into the lake of
fire and brimstone (hell). This is
recorded in Revelation chapter 20,
verse 10.
Angels that sinned were cast into hell
—and they knew God. Read 2 Peter,
chapter 2, verse 4.
Sorry, believing in God is not enough to
allow you to enter heaven.

truthman2012:
This is wonderful. You look at the wonderful structure of the universe and concluded they must have been made by a God. So, you perceive your God and not know him. No relationship. What a god. No wonder he cannot be demonstrated. An unknown god.

Take your time and read about "deism"

Now, after that, take your time and read a book titled "the age of reason" by thomas paine. trust me you will throw that you bible into a trashcan.

Save me the time to seach for your questions, ask them again.

I want you to reply the questions you evade the othwr time

truthman2012:
God has the right to punish His creatures if they sin. And that was what He did in OT.

What sin? and who told you dat he created them? why did he kill d whole of egypt in the first place instead of crossing over the sea to kill the natives of those lands? what sin has those little infant done dat warrant dere head to be smashed to the tree? why would your god order moses to kill every breathing creatures? (60cities were massacred and there lands were taken). is your god dis powerless that he cant find another way in dealing with them? meanwhile, in the bible we see that this god of israel is only of israel amd not of the whole world.

But Jesus suffered that we might not suffer God's anger in this world and in heaven as true believers in Christ.

Was'nt jesus the one commanding all those killings? Why didnt jesus come in the first place b4 moses was ordered to kill people? how about those dat died in tsunami, earthquake and other natural are dey not sufffering from your gods anger (as u believed)?
What he one die without believing your jesus, isnt jesus going to roast unbeliever in hell (as in your delusions)?

Is it a sin to be a non-muslim? If yes, it means you deserve to die from muslims as a freethinker.

tell me the different between the person that think i must die and the one dat think i will roast in fire?

@Elkewwty

I don't think I need the books you recommended because they are writings against my faith.

Your other questions have been answered if you have read my posts well here. What sin? The answer is already in the thread.

It is Jehoval God that created Adam and Eve, from whom we are all procreated. It is left to you to believe it or not.

You cannot appreciate the workings of God if you are not in tune with Him. The more you move far from Him as you are, the less you know about Him. We need him more than He needs us and one day we will be judged by Him.

I will not respond to atheists again as the muslims for which the thread is intended could not refute it.

Thanks for your time.

truthman2012:
@Elkewwty

I don't think I need the books you recommended because they are writings against my faith.

Your other questions have been answered if you have read my posts well here. What sin? The answer is already in the thread.
It is Jehoval God that created Adam and Eve, from whom we are all procreated. It is left to you to believe it or not.
You cannot appreciate the workings of God if you are not in tune with Him. The more you move far from Him as you are, the less you know about Him. We need him more than He needs us and one day we will be judged by Him.

okay

i wudnt av said neither commentd anything if nt koz of points in d bible. There r some points nd scriptures in d bibl dat make me to present in such a argument lik dis. A particulr scricptur goes dis way "u dat av been saved rise up 4d saviour of others" Xamthn a scriptur goes dx way again "u wil knw d truth nd d truth wil set u free" i wil tel u something wat u guyz dnt wnt to undrstand, the issue of christian nd muslim i dnt knw anytin sud bring both together 1.) we r nt serving xme God 2.) dx religion ws basicaly establishd to threaten jews dat didnt nd dnt acpt christ 3.) everytin in d bible their so cald quran objects it, things seen as great sin in d bibl dats there greatst righteous-doing dats y u c celebrities divrtin 4rm christ to b slave 2God. It alws dem to do watevr so cald sin in christainity 4.) u cant compar christ to mohamd they werent same. Everytin seen as character of christ was enemy to dix yr muhammd. Hw cn u b teling m a whole prophet to b marrying up to 13wives hw cud he do jehovah's work efficiently. Bibl says litl wil b savd whil many wil perish, wat jesus prophesied then are nw fulfiling nd u r teling me hes nt son of God. Bibl says watevr God says he doesnt swalow it, r u nw teling m dat wat God said wen jesus was being baptising dat "dix is my belovd son listen to him" he had swalowd it aftr 600yrs dat has been written? Or wil u tel m he didnt knw wat he was saying then? Think pls! Dis hard-rock-heart wont help u. God bless u all bt mind u nevr mix it up again dat christian serv sam God as dat of muslim ok? D two r contrary to each other wat God of bibl wants God of quran doesnt want n vice versa. Think wel pls eternity is important hel is real n one thing i knw concerning hell is dat, hel doesnt kil bt much hotter than dx world fire x7 no water neither food. Heat of hell takes away yr cloth b4 u get there u wil entr it in nakd dats y u sudnt let ordinary human being cald hslf prophet tak u to hell. Wen jesus was going he said he was going to hs father bt wen ds yr muhamd was abt to die he said he wasnt sure where h was going, pls y r u relying on false prophet to tak u 2 heaven? Lt m ask u dix again sinc he had died when did u hear hs voice? Absolutely nowhere bt wen jesus ascended to heaven w stil heard his voice,he shwd hself to hs discipls,wen paul wantd to persecut discipls w heard d voice of jesus. Are u nt stil convincd wit al dix? If nt 4 d sake of God's wish dt say u dat av been savd rise 4 other's i wud av told them to stop revealing the truth to u. U stil wnt to argue? Let m knw i av points nd questions r welcm also.

Elkewwty:
Take your time and read about "deism"

Now, after that, take your time and read a book titled "the age of reason" by thomas paine. trust me you will throw that you bible into a trashcan.



I want you to reply the questions you evade the othwr time



What sin? and who told you dat he created them? why did he kill d whole of egypt in the first place instead of crossing over the sea to kill the natives of those lands? what sin has those little infant done dat warrant dere head to be smashed to the tree? why would your god order moses to kill every breathing creatures? (60cities were massacred and there lands were taken). is your god dis powerless that he cant find another way in dealing with them? meanwhile, in the bible we see that this god of israel is only of israel amd not of the whole world.



Was'nt jesus the one commanding all those killings? Why didnt jesus come in the first place b4 moses was ordered to kill people? how about those dat died in tsunami, earthquake and other natural are dey not sufffering from your gods anger (as u believed)?
What he one die without believing your jesus, isnt jesus going to roast unbeliever in hell (as in your delusions)?



tell me the different between the person that think i must die and the one dat think i will roast in fire?

the book were writing against the Christians faith, I google the man, he is full of controversy, some believe he belonged to a cult called freemason.

malvisguy212:
the book were writing against the Christians faith, I google the man, he is full of controversy, some believe he belonged to a cult called freemason.

I thought as much.

truthman2012:
This is very serious. This is my first time on nairaland seeing muslims silenced by the truth. What is next for you guys now? It is a wise decision to come to Jesus who promised us heaven. Why should you prefer hell that allah promised to heaven Jesus promised.

Don't mind the atheists who have nothing, I mean not under any promise. They are like a sheep without a shepered, wandering in the wilderness.

*Clears throat*
They will nt have to wait for aught but a single blast: it will seize dem while they r yet disputing among demselves.
No chance will they then hv by will, to dispose (of their affairs), nor to return to their own pple!
D trumpet shall b sounded n bhold! 4rm d sepulchres (men) will rush forth to their Lord!
They (you) will say: ah! Woe unto us! Who hath raised us up 4rm our beds of repose?......................... A voice will say ''this is what God most Gracious had promised. And true ws d word of d messengers!
***surah Yasin (36) 49 - 52.



My brother d day (resurrection day) is fast approaching !

Resurrection Day belongs to Jesus:

Jesus said unto her, I am the ''Resurrection and the Life'': he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live (John 11:25).

Only those who believe in Jesus, not Muhammad or allah have hope of resurrection. Jesus spoke the words about 650 years before Muhammad was born. So Muhammad or allah was not in a position to alter it.

malvisguy212:
the book were writing against the Christians faith, I google the man, he is full of controversy, some believe he belonged to a cult called freemason.

read

Elkewwty:
read

thank you for the insult, am very sure you got this morals from the book you are recommending to us. I will not respond to you again.

malvisguy212:
thank you for the insult, am very sure you got this morals from the book you are recommending to us. I will not respond to you again.

No, i didnt insult, truth is it is only people who can read extensively and learn new things that is a literate in this century.

Elkewwty:
No, i didnt insult, truth is it is only people who can read extensively and learn new things that is a literate in this century.

And learning new things is synonymous to a change of believe? I can't be a Christian and still learn new things?

@ lanrexlan and others.

Is islam a religion of peace based on the evidences in the OP?

Don't tell lies as usual.

The differences between Christianity and Islam is this:
All the command in old testament are HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS/RECORDS/EVENTS of ONE nation.........isreal.

We have not standing order like the Muslims do

Elkewwty:
What sin? and who told you dat he created them? why did he kill d whole of egypt in the first place instead of crossing over the sea to kill the natives of those lands? what sin has those little infant done dat warrant dere head to be smashed to the tree? why would your god order moses to kill every breathing creatures? (60cities were massacred and there lands were taken). is your god dis powerless that he cant find another way in dealing with them? meanwhile, in the bible we see that this god of israel is only of israel amd not of the whole world.



Was'nt jesus the one commanding all those killings? Why didnt jesus come in the first place b4 moses was ordered to kill people? how about those dat died in tsunami, earthquake and other natural are dey not sufffering from your gods anger (as u believed)?
What he one die without believing your jesus, isnt jesus going to roast unbeliever in hell (as in your delusions)?



tell me the different between the person that think i must die and the one dat think i will roast in fire?

I could'nt have say much...but trust me truthman will evade all these poignant questions hehehe.

Rilwayne001:
I could'nt have say much...but trust me truthman will evade all these poignant questions hehehe.

I have replied her, check the thread properly.

Is that all you have to say hidding under somebody's post?

Quote the OP one by one and let's see your defence. All muslims have been avoiding it. Truth is difficult to change.

You are only joking around these days lacking points.

truthman2012:
I have replied her, check the thread properly.

Where? i cant see you properly answers to all her poignant questions, or do you want tell lies again?

Is that all you have to say hidding under somebody's post?

I don't need to hide behind her posts, but i want you to address her questions.

Quote the OP one by one and let's see your defence. All muslims have been avoiding it. Truth is difficult to change.

In your OP, you only quote the Quran why did'nt you quote the bible since you are comparing the two? let start from here.

You are only joking around these days lacking points.

you are only fo0ling around evading poignant questions hehehehe

Rilwayne001:
Where? i cant see you properly answers to all her poignant questions, or do you want tell lies again?



I don't need to hide behind her posts, but i want you to address her questions.



In your OP, you only quote the Quran why did'nt you quote the bible since you are comparing the two? let start from here.



you are only fo0ling around evading poignant questions hehehehe

Trash!

The hebrew God is a clear terrorist. It says worship me or i send you to roast in hell fire forever. Osama or shekau can't match that!!

Femmymata2:
The hebrew God is a clear terrorist. It says worship me or i send you to roast in hell fire forever. Osama or shekau can't match that!!

Nonsense!

truthman2012:
Nonsense!

Sir, what do you call somebody who threatens you with eternal torture if one refuse to worship and accept him. TERRORIST

Femmymata2:
Sir, what do you call somebody who threatens you with eternal torture if one refuse to worship and accept him. TERRORIST

did God force you to worship Him? The simply thing God ask you to do is to love your neighbour as your self and Love God, if you keep this divine law, you will not only live in peace with your loves one but you will be in heaven also , but because you love wickedness that why you comes up with this lame excuse.

Femmymata2:
Sir, what do you call somebody who threatens you with eternal torture if one refuse to worship and accept him. TERRORIST

As an atheist, your problem may be difficult to solve. God created Lucifer (now satan) and other angels for his service, but satan and some angels rebelled. As their punishment God created hellfire (Mat 25:41). Like the angels, if man rebels too he will take part in hell. Even world governments do not condone rebels.