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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by adamskutty(m): 10:04am On Jan 06, 2015
Hahahhaaha!

This sh1t got me cracking my ribs. grin

Juliann the moustache baby, shaai buhari till u shave that moustache. cheesy
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by jireh250: 10:12am On Jan 06, 2015
petrov10:
Apc make no mistake about this

Its a done deal already



Do not expect any igbo within or outside S.E to vote for buhari
That's not possible


Igbos will vote jonatan come feb

Gej 2019 as sure as heaven cheesy

Compare your likes with the others in support of GMB. It shows you are on your own...and how dare you speak for us? This kind of reasoning is what has kept us where we are politically.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Curlieweed: 10:18am On Jan 06, 2015
danjumakolo:



Buhari gave the first Nigerian, an ibo man the license to export crude when he was petroleum minister. This was against all odds from top civil servants


This is the kind of specious arguments that really gets my goat. So, he gave this random Igbo friend of his an oil lifting contract. How does that benefit Igbos in general?
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by FKO81(m): 10:29am On Jan 06, 2015
blackjack21:


What am trying to say is-

The total eligible votes of all geopolitical zone=66,878,004

NE,NW,SW=43,237,018 (this is almost two-third of the total vote.)

SS,SE,NC=23,640,986



If the election is free and fair, It's close to impossible for APC to lose.

When you guys agure it prompt me to ask your age, among the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, Igbos are the only group you can find in every nooks and crannies of this country, and major cities outside east such as Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Ibadan, Akure, Jos, Ilorin, etc you will see them in millions and thouands you can deny the fact, better still you can ask your asperants why they dress in Igbo attire when they are canvassing for votes in your region have you seen or heard that in southeast or southsouth asperants dress in yoruba or Hausa attire to seek for votes you leaders understand our numerical strenghts, if you doubt me go out samply people opinion, not to stay in your bed and assume every voters in your region will vote for APC, that was the same scenario that played out at Ikota sc, we where 12 in numbers, their was debate between PDP n APC, APC supports where saying APC will grab all the votes in southwest, we end-up agreed to vote for the two parts APC got 3 vote while PDP got7 votes 2 guys abstained, some of them that voted for PDP where southwesterns and mind you that PDP control 22 states plus FCT, they have the highest number in both hallow chambers and you can rule out ministers and power of incubent, and you are here quoting millions of votes, if I may ask how many millions of votes did APC got in Osun and Ekiti guber election last year that are more dear to them? Or you want me to pullout 2011 presidential result, some of us that support GEJ are in your regions, you guys should open you eyes election is not won online

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by MrEverest(m): 10:30am On Jan 06, 2015
MayorofLagos:


This is why Igbo is pokitically in disadvantage. The only vote that count as Igbo is that in SE, regardless of party you vote for. Of all the regions you have the least headcount and least registered voters.

So where is your advantage....where is your appeal? None!
The Igbo appeal lies in the fact that they are one of the most populous in the country. They may have 5 states as you said but Lagos is about 40% made up of Igbos, El Rufai as the minister of FCT made the assertion willy-nilly that Abuja is de facto sixth Igbo state based on their numerical strength. For you to win the presidential election, you must garner at least 25% in two thirds of the states across the federation, the Igbos can easily influence this & they actually did it for GEJ in 2011. Buhari actually played into the hands of GEJ when he refused to campaign in the SE based on this your short-sighted hubris that SE is not relevant. The SE may be five states but Igbos constitute appreciable numbers in many more states than the SE/SS. If Buhari is sensible enough, he ought to know that Igbo votes holds the ace for GEJ & there is a growing apathy in the region against GEJ due to the failed promises of GEJ like the second Niger bridge, Enugu-P.H exp, Onitsha seaport etc & the fact that GEJ has done far more projects in the Northern states than his acclaimed piller of support, the SE.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by petrov10: 10:32am On Jan 06, 2015
ashieduplus:


I'm Igbo. Nwannem, I and my house (6 adults) are voting Buhari

Speak for yourself.
anyody can claim to be igbo na today ??

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by OLUJOSHINS(m): 10:50am On Jan 06, 2015
WOW. I NEVER SAW THIS COMING.




But I know GEJ will soon stuff their mouth with money & they will hold their peace.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Akanbiedu(m): 10:57am On Jan 06, 2015
This is expected from our Ndi Igbo compatriots, as soon as they notice a shift, they are going to join the winning team. Nothing spoil.

The only problem is, they are going to start claiming entitlements in the new arrangement very soon. And they are going to claim to have been the chief contributors to emergence of GMB. LOL
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by LRNZH(m): 11:04am On Jan 06, 2015
danjumakolo:



Buhari gave the first Nigerian, an ibo man the license to export crude when he was petroleum minister. This was against all odds from top civil servants

Curlieweed:

This is the kind of specious arguments that really gets my goat. So, he gave this random Igbo friend of his an oil lifting contract. How does that benefit Igbos in general?

Next thing you will imply is that GMB and Dora Akunyili were committing adultery.

Mtscheeeew
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Lucky77: 11:19am On Jan 06, 2015
eaglechild:

50 years ago!

Shouldn't he be in the retirement home playing with his grand children?

No, not when the house he helped to build is in ruins; and the future of his grand children is uncertain.
Certainly no grandfather will sit back and feel unconcerned.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 11:22am On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:

This is absolute nonsense.
Every region, state and ethnic group pursue their own interests in Nigeria, there is nothing like ally. No amount of alliance with the North would have made them happily agree to the creation of more states in the east without demanding for something themselves. You are Yoruba, you claim to form alliances and keep friends while Igbos are creating enemies right? Now tell me one Yoruba agenda in that same conference that was pushed forward and supported by the north.
Besides the states we have today were created by military decree not through any democratic process so you can never tell.
How is an Igbo President going to solve the problems of an average Igbo man? How are the ones who have had the Presidency faring?
How will an extra state benefit an Igbo man?
How is the north faring with its 19 states?

But its igbos with more voice than yours that keep trumpeting about marginalisation.

Anyways, I'd noted it long ago that igbos are not coherent politically and are not informed enough to see the link between political power and economy. They are too emotional and therefore end up not being forthright when required.

They are bipolar about what Nigeria represents as against Biafra and this make the individuals react differently to political situations. In the end the only cohesive Igbo group is the family unit.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Rendition(m): 11:22am On Jan 06, 2015
petrov10:
Apc make no mistake about this

Its a done deal already



Do not expect any igbo within or outside S.E to vote for buhari
That's not possible


Igbos will vote jonatan come feb

Gej 2019 as sure as heaven cheesy
GO AHEAD sir, just another wasted vote
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by gists: 11:25am On Jan 06, 2015
semitunde:


But its igbos with more voice than yours that keep trumpeting about marginalisation.

Anyways, I'd noted it long ago that igbos are not coherent politically and are not informed enough to see the link between political power and economy. They are too emotional and therefore end up not being forthright when required.

They are bipolar about what Nigeria represents as against Biafra and this make the individuals react differently to political situations. In the end the only cohesive Igbo group is the family unit.
@ the bolded, I just decided to ignore the guy.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Collynzo9: 11:25am On Jan 06, 2015
semitunde:


But its igbos with more voice than yours that keep trumpeting about marginalisation.

Anyways, I'd noted it long ago that igbos are not coherent politically and are not informed enough to see the link between political power and economy. They are too emotional and therefore end up not being forthright when required.

They are bipolar about what Nigeria represents as against Biafra and this make the individuals react differently to political situations. In the end the only cohesive Igbo group is the family unit.
Questions still not answered.
Half Tunde.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Collynzo9: 11:27am On Jan 06, 2015
gists:

@ the bolded, I just decided to ignore the guy.
You couldn't answer my questions that is why.
You guys always churn out all kinds of theories but when serious questions are asked you run away.
I am sure that my question on the National conference which you brought up must have given you serious headache.
Go home and think about it.
Presidency.... How does it benefit Igbos, how has it benefitted Yorubas, Ijaws, Fulanis? No answer you jumped to state creation.
How has state creation benefitted the north? No reply.
Alliances, how did your alliance with the north help you in the national conference? How many of your specific interests did they support?
No reply.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Rendition(m): 11:28am On Jan 06, 2015
MrEverest:
The Igbo appeal lies in the fact that they are one of the most populous in the country. They may have 5 states as you said but Lagos is about 40% made up of Igbos, El Rufai as the minister of FCT made the assertion willy-nilly that Abuja is de facto sixth Igbo state based on their numerical strength. For you to win the presidential election, you must garner at least 25% in two thirds of the states across the federation, the Igbos can easily influence this & they actually did it for GEJ in 2011. Buhari actually played into the hands of GEJ when he refused to campaign in the SE based on this your short-sighted hubris that SE is not relevant. The SE may be five states but Igbos constitute appreciable numbers in many more states than the SE/SS. If Buhari is sensible enough, he ought to know that Igbo votes holds the ace for GEJ & there is a growing apathy in the region against GEJ due to the failed promises of GEJ like the second Niger bridge, Enugu-P.H exp, Onitsha seaport etc & the fact that GEJ has done far more projects in the Northern states than his acclaimed piller of support, the SE.
bros all dis one na story for d gods, hw can u say d ibos are d super powers in election....lmfaooo wer u put d yoruba community? nd hausas so u fink they av more ppl combined with north nd west oga mi sir Goodluck is going home...over nd out
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 11:28am On Jan 06, 2015
MrEverest:
The Igbo appeal lies in the fact that they are one of the most populous in the country. They may have 5 states as you said but Lagos is about 40% made up of Igbos, El Rufai as the minister of FCT made the assertion willy-nilly that Abuja is de facto sixth Igbo state based on their numerical strength. For you to win the presidential election, you must garner at least 25% in two thirds of the states across the federation, the Igbos can easily influence this & they actually did it for GEJ in 2011. Buhari actually played into the hands of GEJ when he refused to campaign in the SE based on this your short-sighted hubris that SE is not relevant. The SE may be five states but Igbos constitute appreciable numbers in many more states than the SE/SS. If Buhari is sensible enough, he ought to know that Igbo votes holds the ace for GEJ & there is a growing apathy in the region against GEJ due to the failed promises of GEJ like the second Niger bridge, Enugu-P.H exp, Onitsha seaport etc & the fact that GEJ has done far more projects in the Northern states than his acclaimed piller of support, the SE.

Igbos can only make 40% of Lagos if 30% of the southeast poured into Lagos. Considering that most Igbo coming over are looking to better their lives economically, its safe to say most of them are of voting age.

This will reduce the voting population in the east and further weaken GEJ's position.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by gists: 11:31am On Jan 06, 2015
FKO81:


When you guys agure it prompt me to ask your age, among the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, Igbos are the only group you can find in every nooks and crannies of this country, and major cities outside east such as Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Ibadan, Akure, Ilorin, etc you will see them in millions and thouands you can deny the fact, better still you can ask your asperants why they dress in Igbo attire when they are canvassing for votes in your region have you seen or heard that in southeast or southsouth asperants dress in yoruba or Hausa attire to seek for votes you leaders understand our numerical strenghts, if you doubt me go out samply people opinion, not to stay in your bed and assume every voters in your region will vote for APC, that was the same scenario that played out at Ikota sc, we where 11 in numbers, their was debate between PDP n APC, APC supports where saying APC will grab all the votes in southwest, we end-up agreed to vote for the two parts APC got 3 vote while PDP got7 votes 2 guys abstained, some of them that voted for PDP where southwesterns and mind you that PDP control 22 states plus FCT, they have the highest number in both hallow chambers and you can rule out ministers and power of incubent, and you are here quoting millions of votes, if I may ask how many millions of votes did APC got in Osun and Ekiti guber election last year that are more dear to them? Or you want me to pullout 2011 presidential result, some of us that support GEJ are in your regions, you guys should open you eyes election is not won online

You talk assuming this election will be fair. Yes it will probably be free BUT will it be fair? The SE gave outrageously ridiculous numbers in 2011 i.e 93%, 95% etc. That has thought other regions a big lesson. Now to reply your assumption that your folks are in all regions of the country, have you thought about this:

gists:

Unfortunately, the one in other regions will not be counted as SE votes. E.g Emeka's vote in Lagos will be "mistakenly" counted for GMB even if he thumb-print for gej.
The only place where Ada's vote will be counted for gej is in the SE and you guys are the least in numbers.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 11:34am On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:

Questions still not answered.
Half Tunde.

Bro, your questions were answered over and over again. Your mind and emotions have only blinded you to it.

E-coli.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 11:40am On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:
You couldn't answer my questions that is why.
You guys always churn out all kinds of theories but when serious questions are asked you run away.
I am sure that my question on the National conference which you brought up must have given you serious headache.
Go home and think about it.
Presidency.... How does it benefit Igbos, how has it benefitted Yorubas, Ijaws, Fulanis? No answer you jumped to state creation.
How has state creation benefitted the north? No reply.
Alliances, how did your alliance with the north help you in the national conference? How many of your specific interests did they support?
No reply.

In a nutshell: if Igbo like you feelntheres nothing to gain in the presidency of this country, then you should have done a "Jehovah's Witnesses" on the whole process!!!

Why label GEJ an Igbo and go ahead to align and continue to align with him. There are other ethnic groups in this country that have been quiet politically and have had gains from doing so.

You just want to eat you cake and still have it.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Collynzo9: 11:43am On Jan 06, 2015
semitunde:


In a nutshell: if Igbo like you feelntheres nothing to gain in the presidency of this country, then you should have done a "Jehovah's Witnesses" on the whole process!!!

Why label GEJ an Igbo and go ahead to align and continue to align with him. There are other ethnic groups in this country that have been quiet politically and have had gains from doing so.

You just want to eat you cake and still have it.
No body labelled GEJ and Igbo President except Yoruba guys like you.
We align with him because we like his style of governance and his transformational achievements across the country.
How is that a problem to you?
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by LRNZH(m): 11:52am On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:

No body labelled GEJ and Igbo President except Yoruba guys like you.
We align with him because we like his style of governance and his transformational achievements across the country.
How is that a problem to you?

Chei!!! shocked
I know you're in the heat of an argument but GEJ's style is more properly put, non governance and transmogrification.

Just saying.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by maestroferddi: 11:54am On Jan 06, 2015
gists:
It may already be too late for SE. That may be the reason some people would rather sink with GEJ. They'd rather look for any excuse no matter how silly or baseless not to vote GMB.
I was told by a very respectable role model of mine that in life, their is no permanent enemy nor permanent friend - only permanent interest. You build bridges to save your interest. For example, the US interest in middle east is Israel. To preserve/secure that interest, the US build bridges and made many arab (SAUDI being the chief) countries her allies. The same US many Nigerians see as a near-perfect country has Saudi (a country many Nigerians see as the home of evil) as her biggest ally in the middle east.

SE has the least number of voters, the least number of states (and by extension the least number of governors), the least number of senators, the least number of local gov. the least number of rep members. Yet not only do they refuses to build bridges to the north and west, they even foolishly create enemies (lagos deportation is a classic example). If there is a debate in senate today about whether igbo has used their presidency turn going by their support for gej, igbo will lose out because they are the least in numbers and made very little allies if any.
It will be interesting to see how only SE votes can produce an Igbo presidency.
Are you ready to make a compelling argument or to whip up cheap sentiments?

The Igbos have an inalienable right to support whichever candidate of their choice. Learn to live with that.

Stop spreading unnecessary disaffection about a phantom resolution on the support for Jonathan.

FYI, Jonathan is winning re-election. The Igbos are practical people. We have no time for guesswork and grandstanding.

Our interests are best served in the PDP. Though it may take some time, but certainly a Nigerian President of Igbo extraction will HAPPEN in the nearest future under the PDP.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 11:54am On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:

No body labelled GEJ and Igbo President except Yoruba guys like you.
We align with him because we like his style of governance and his transformational achievements across the country.
How is that a problem to you?

I thought you just posited that igbos are not interested in the precidency.

Why are you aligning? Why are you in charge of the ethnic bigotry associated with GEJ's reign? Why are Igbo the most vociferous supporters of his rule and reelection?

Why not just keep quiet and stay disinterested?

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Collynzo9: 12:03pm On Jan 06, 2015
semitunde:


I thought you just posited that igbos are not interested in the precidency.

Why are you aligning? Why are you in charge of the ethnic bigotry associated with GEJ's reign? Why are Igbo the most vociferous supporters of his rule and reelection?

Why not just keep quiet and stay disinterested?
Maybe you missed it, let me make it bold.
We align with him because we like his style of governance and his transformational
achievements across the country.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 12:04pm On Jan 06, 2015
Our interests are best served in the PDP. Though it may take some time, but certainly a Nigerian President of Igbo extraction will HAPPEN in the nearest future under the PDP.

The above is an example of how anyone speaking for the generality of Igbo, is living in fools paradise. They are never coherent with any particular process. While colynzo9 tries to state that Igbo are not interested in the presidency, another Igbo bidding his time for the opportunity.

Its only in the family unit that you can guarantee that a representatives word is law. And even that is difficult.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by semitunde: 12:07pm On Jan 06, 2015
Collynzo9:

Maybe you missed it, let me make it bold.
We align with him because we like his style of governance and his transformational
achievements across the country.


Did you miss this part of my response?

Why are you in charge of the ethnic bigotry associated with GEJ's reign? Why are Igbo the most vociferous supporters of his rule and reelection?

Cos your actions described above negates the stance of someone not interested in the outcome of the process.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by FKO81(m): 12:11pm On Jan 06, 2015
gists:


You talk assuming this election will be fair. Yes it will probably be free BUT will it be fair? The SE gave outrageously ridiculous numbers in 2011 i.e 93%, 95% etc. That has thought other regions a big lesson. Now to reply your assumption that your folks are in all regions of the country, have you thought about this:

Sorry you agurment doesn't make sense, so when it's not free and fair APC will rig out PDP that has been in power for 16 yrs. I don't understand what you meant that Emaka that voted for APC in south/west will
Mistakely go to APC, It means you are a leaner sorry for quoting.
Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Collynzo9: 12:13pm On Jan 06, 2015
semitunde:


Did you miss this part of my response?



Cos your actions described above negates the stance of someone not interested in the outcome of the process.
We are very much interested in the outcome and we believe GEJ is the one to take the country forward.
My point remains that a President from a particular part of the country does not bring any special benefit to the people of that place.
A good President is a good President and GEJ is that.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by pazienza(m): 1:18pm On Jan 06, 2015
GEJ is an Ogbia man and not an Ijaw man, Ijaws only adopted him, same way Ndiigbo are currently doing.


GEJ as an Ogbia man( a minority amongst minorities) brings equity, justice,merit and fairness to the table. These are things the Igbo man needs to thrive, and dominate his environment. Things that the Arewa-Odua gang up stand against.


Come election day, GEJ will win 99.9% of Igbo votes throughout Nigeria, not because of what he has done or will do for Ndiigbo (cos sincerely speaking GEJ didn't do anything for Ndiigbo that he didn't do for the rest of Nigeria) but because of equity,justice,merit and fairness that GEJ represents.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by Eluwilussit(m): 2:10pm On Jan 06, 2015
pazienza:
GEJ is an Ogbia man and not an Ijaw man, Ijaws only adopted him, same way Ndiigbo are currently doing.


GEJ as an Ogbia man( a minority amongst minorities) brings equity, justice,merit and fairness to the table. These are things the Igbo man needs to thrive, and dominate his environment. Things that the Arewa-Odua gang up stand against.


Come election day, GEJ will win 99.9% of Igbo votes throughout Nigeria, not because of what he has done or will do for Ndiigbo (cos sincerely speaking GEJ didn't do anything for Ndiigbo that he didn't do for the rest of Nigeria) but because of equity,justice,merit and fairness that GEJ represents.

You are right in everyway. Everything u said is true. Though I still wonder why we Nigerians are so obsessed with tribal politics. Should it matter where the president comes from? Why can't we vote for the best man for the job? Naija matter no be here o.

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Re: 2015: Why Ndi Igbo Are Angry With Jonathan – Uko by jaybee3(m): 2:13pm On Jan 06, 2015
Eluwilussit:


You are right in everyway. Everything u said is true. Though I still wonder why we Nigerians are so obsessed with tribal politics. Should it matter where the president comes from? Why can't we vote for the best man for the job? Naija matter no be here o.
Nigeria as a nation was formed along strong powerful fault lines.

Ethnicity will always be part of our politics as we are wired differently

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