There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger!!!

You can't be more muslim than prophet mohammed..

Are the Boko-haram extremist or sincere Muslims? Do they have the Quranic justification for what they did and have been doing in Nigeria? If muslims don't have basis in the Quran and the hidith for their violence, we would regard them as extremist..
When a muslim kills a christian, is he not getting rid of a kaferi (infidel)?

In Sura 47:4 Muslims are commanded by Allah to smite the neck of anyone who doesnot accept the teachings of islam and they would be helping Allah by so doing.
Allah also says that Jihad is, not just a religious duty but a profitable business (Sura 61: 10-12). It is therefore clear that physical Jihad is NOT extremism but normal in islam..

It is strange when some muslim leaders say, 'islam has a full-fledged philosophy of religious tolerance and peaceful coexistence. It is stranger when christians make such statements. When a muslim says such things, he is either deceiving himself or is not well aware of the history of islam. When a christian says this, it is because he has been deceived.

Boko-Harams are the true muslims...the others are introducing their own religion..

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar.

who is this one again? where are you from? what do you do for a living?

paulworld:
who is this one again? where are you from? what do you do for a living?

Really? Seriously??

Religion of peace? hmm!!! God would help us.

myproperty:
Religion of peace? hmm!!! God would help us.

Let me tell you a story someone told me...
There was a Sardine swimming off the shore of the Niger river. He meets a shark and humbly says the normal greeting, shalom (PEACE). To avoid any clash, the sardine gives up his tails, some fins, some scales, but it seems all these avail nothing, Now, for a real and lasting PEACE, he surrenders everything.
The shark nods in agreement and utters the word 'PEACE', opens his mouth and swallows the sardine whole. That is the peace, the lasting PEACE.

Seconded Boko haram shekau is a Muslim scholar fluent in Arabic.
The usual Muslim apologists here cannot speak arabic like he does Neither do they know the quran like he does.
He is just like caliph all baghdadi. Learned sheikhs who seek to practice what the prophet taught, lived and practiced.
Pure unadulterated Islam is practiced by Boko, IS,Taliban etc led NY learned sheikhs,mullahs and ayatollahs
The sharia Saudi have a similar set of laws to what bolo does Sharia . Iran too.
They hang gays, cut off hands , flog women, stone adulterers, behead apostates. Though the
Saudi n Iran try to suppress media coverage ,their Sharia laws are almost identical.

There is only one god but Allah and mohammed is his prophet.

Adolf Hitler is a best exmpl of a true xtian .

At last.. some who truly knows how real nigga muslims operate.. strictly to the law of the koran. Allahu akbar

mohsaaf:
Adolf Hitler is a best exmpl of a true xtian .

hitler was not a christian dummy!... he wqs an atheist

jamesbawa:

hitler was not a christian dummy!... he wqs an atheist

Stop making s.h!t up. That's the definition of dummy.

DDeliverer:
There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger!!!

You can't be more muslim than prophet mohammed..

Are the Boko-haram extremist or sincere Muslims? Do they have the Quranic justification for what they did and have been doing in Nigeria? If muslims don't have basis in the Quran and the hidith for their violence, we would regard them as extremist..
When a muslim kills a christian, is he not getting rid of a kaferi (infidel)?

In Sura 47:4 Muslims are commanded by Allah to smite the neck of anyone who doesnot accept the teachings of islam and they would be helping Allah by so doing.
Allah also says that Jihad is, not just a religious duty but a profitable business (Sura 61: 10-12). It is therefore clear that physical Jihad is NOT extremism but normal in islam..

It is strange when some muslim leaders say, 'islam has a full-fledged philosophy of religious tolerance and peaceful coexistence. It is stranger when christians make such statements. When a muslim says such things, he is either deceiving himself or is not well aware of the history of islam. When a christian says this, it is because he has been deceived.

Boko-Harams are the true muslims...the others are introducing their own religion..

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar.

The curious irony in this is that like bokoharam, you have determined that you are the ultimate authority on what constitutes a "true" Muslim. Forgive me then, if I struggle to see the difference between you and Bokoharam. The dangers of know-all and inflexible certainty.

AgentOfAllah:


The curious irony in this is that like bokoharam, you have determined that you are the ultimate authority on what constitutes a "true" Muslim. Forgive me then, if I struggle to see the difference between you and Bokoharam. The dangers of know-all and inflexible certainty.

I've never claimed to be omniscient, neither am I an authority. The qu'ran is the standard here..The quaran is the authority! The quaran descended from heaven and the original copy is still on the 'preserved tablet' in paradise, and has been there even before the creation of the world! And because of this, nothing in the book must be questioned (surah 85:22 and 43:3-4).

When I claim that Allah has asked Bokoharam to kill, an educated mind like yours may find it indigestible and unbeluevable. But these are no idle claims. Take them away and there would be nothing called islam.

Except you are saying the quaran is not the ultimate authority....then that will be another discussion entirely.

DDeliverer:


I've never claimed to be omniscient, neither am I an authority. The qu'ran is the standard here..The quaran is the authority! The quaran descended from heaven and the original copy is still on the 'preserved tablet' in paradise, and has been there even before the creation of the world! And because of this, nothing in the book must be questioned (surah 85:22 and 43:3-4).

When I claim that Allah has asked Bokoharam to kill, an educated mind like yours may find it indigestible and unbeluevable. But these are no idle claims. Take them away and there would be nothing called islam.

Except you are saying the quaran is not the ultimate authority....then that will be another discussion entirely.

You're absolutely right. The cowards are the timid and lukewarm MusLims who don't really believe in Allah and the Qur'an.

Abraham was prepared to butcher his only son after hearing a voice. The standard for what is acceptable before Allah was set a long time ago. Even murdering one's own children is not out of the question.

Weah96:


You're absolutely right. The cowards are the timid and lukewarm MusLims who don't really believe in Allah and the Qur'an.

Abraham was prepared to butcher his only son after hearing a voice. The standard for what is acceptable before Allah was set a long time ago. Even murdering one's own children is not out of the question.

Christian sanctimony is the rare quality of casually shooting one's own foot...hey thanks selective amnesia

AgentOfAllah:


Christian sanctimony is the rare quality of casually shooting one's own foot...hey thanks selective amnesia

True, but I'm not a Christian.

DDeliverer:


I've never claimed to be omniscient, neither am I an authority. The qu'ran is the standard here..The quaran is the authority! The quaran descended from heaven and the original copy is still on the 'preserved tablet' in paradise, and has been there even before the creation of the world! And because of this, nothing in the book must be questioned (surah 85:22 and 43:3-4).

You sounded pretty omniscienty when you confidently insinuated that all those Muslims who don't interpret the Quran as bokoharam does aren't "true" Muslims.

When I claim that Allah has asked Bokoharam to kill, an educated mind like yours may find it indigestible and unbeluevable. But these are no idle claims. Take them away and there would be nothing called islam.

Again, so sure of yourself.

Except you are saying the quaran is not the ultimate authority....then that will be another discussion entirely.

I wonder if the bible is your ultimate authority because if you're not a violent genocidal lunatic like Moses, or a sick filicidal fool like Abraham, you're not reading the bible right. With the same level of certainty as you, I hereby declare that only such Christians as Hitler, Breivic and Bush are true Christians.

Weah96:


True, but I'm not a Christian.

I know that. I was referring to the person you quoted.

AgentOfAllah:


You sounded pretty omniscienty when you confidently insinuated that all those Muslims who don't interpret the Quran as bokoharam does aren't "true" Muslims.


Again, so sure of yourself.


I wonder if the bible is your ultimate authority because if you're not a violent genocidal lunatic like Moses, or a sick filicidal fool like Abraham, you're not reading the bible right. With the same level of certainty as you, I hereby declare that only such Christians as Hitler, Breivic and Bush are true Christians.

There is no need to insult Abraham or Moses. They are both great men.. I've read the Quran as much times as I've read the bible, and I can tell you they are both great books..
Christians are christlike (followers of christ). No where in the bible did Jesus command his followers to lie, steal or kill...Whosoever does these cannot be regarded as a christian ( a follower of christ).

Allah gave a command which the Bokoharam are carrying out perfectly well...How are they wrong? Are they not the true muslims? Is obedience now a sin?

AgentOfAllah:


You sounded pretty omniscienty when you confidently insinuated that all those Muslims who don't interpret the Quran as bokoharam does aren't "true" Muslims.


Again, so sure of yourself.


I wonder if the bible is your ultimate authority because if you're not a violent genocidal lunatic like Moses, or a sick filicidal fool like Abraham, you're not reading the bible right. With the same level of certainty as you, I hereby declare that only such Christians as Hitler, Breivic and Bush are true Christians.

Since when did Abraham or Moses become the standard for christians to follow As christians, the only standard and example are meant to follow is Jesus Christ and nobody else so stop drawing up illogical parallels just because an individual's name is mentioned in the bible.

PastorKun:


Since when did Abraham or Moses become the standard for christians to follow As christians, the only standard and example are meant to follow is Jesus Christ and nobody else so stop drawing up illogical parallels just because an individual's name is mentioned in the bible.

Pardon my illogical parallels. Looks like my whole idea of Christianity has been a humongous lie...because, you see, silly me thought Jesus was the same god that commanded them to commit these horrendous acts. No? Yes? Maybe? Oh did god change for good?

Sorry....whose standards again

AgentOfAllah:


Pardon my illogical parallels. Looks like my whole idea of Christianity has been a humongous lie...because, you see, silly me thought Jesus was the same god that commanded them to commit these horrendous acts. No? Yes? Maybe? Oh did god change for good?

Sorry....whose standards again

Nope, christianity never said Jesus Christ is the same God. Jesus is the son of God and not God himself, they are two entirely different persons.

PastorKun:


Nope, christianity never said Jesus Christ is the same God. Jesus is the son of God and not God himself, they are two entirely different persons.

I like how, according to your interpretation of Christianity, the son of god is a less erratic, megalomaniacal, malevolent bully than his father; probably even a victim of his father's madness. Of course, there are many Christians that believe Jesus and Yahweh are one and the same according to their respective interpretations of Christianity.

However, who am I to say one group is practicing "true" Christianity and the other isn't, right?

Maybe the OP can shed their leaf of sanctimony and take one from my acknowledgement of multiple interpretations! Then again, maybe the OP still feels certain Bokoharam are the "TRUE" Muslims... their cuppa!

PastorKun:


Nope, christianity never said Jesus Christ is the same God. Jesus is the son of God and not God himself, they are two entirely different persons.

Lair.

Rilwayne001:


Lair.

I am not lying, you know very well that there is no where in the bible that Jesus is said to be the same person as God. Trinity is a catholic invention.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Jesus is the same as GOD..John 1:1.

Let's not deviate.

The question remains Are BOKOHARAM practicing a different doctrine? Is the Quaran not there standard? Are they misinterpreting the Quaran? If Yes, what is the correct interpretation...

DDeliverer:
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Jesus is the same as GOD..John 1:1.


Let's not deviate.

The question remains Are BOKOHARAM practicing a different doctrine? Is the Quaran not there standard? Are they misinterpreting the Quaran? If Yes, what is the correct interpretation...

I'd not call you exaggerated simpleton only if you'd say that your interpretation of those words in bold isn't the general and accepted interpretation every denomination of Christianity offers.

And two, you are happy with your OP? You are happy being in a religion that commands the slaughter of your fellow humans just because they do not accept an insipid religion of yours? And has dt bloodthirsty slubberdegullion a.llah you foolishly worship ever revealed himself to you as the "way" confirming the Quran as truth? Isn't it what men like you wrote down that you do and follow with all your whole vain life? Don't you use your head?

Pr0ton:


I'd not call you exaggerated simpleton only if you'd say that your interpretation of those words in bold isn't the general and accepted interpretation every denomination of Christianity offers.

And two, you are happy with your OP? You are happy being in a religion that commands the slaughter of your fellow humans just because they do not accept an insipid religion of yours? And has dt bloodthirsty slubberdegullion a.llah you foolishly worship ever revealed himself to you as the "way" confirming the Quran as truth? Isn't it what men like you wrote down that you do and follow with all your whole vain life? Don't you use your head?

The Quoran was not written by Man. Mohammed didn't go to school, infact there is a part of the Sura that described him as unlettered. So Mohammed couldn't have written such a wonderful book..
As a matter of fact, the original tablet in which the quaran was written is in paradise...The Quaran was written by Allah.

My question to my muslim brothers is, do we obey some parts of the quoran and ignore other parts?? Or are there some special interpretations to some verses? Is the ordinary muslim wrong? Or is Bokoharam wrong?

Pr0ton:


I'd not call you exaggerated simpleton only if you'd say that your interpretation of those words in bold isn't the general and accepted interpretation every denomination of Christianity offers.

And two, you are happy with your OP? You are happy being in a religion that commands the slaughter of your fellow humans just because they do not accept an insipid religion of yours? And has dt bloodthirsty slubberdegullion a.llah you foolishly worship ever revealed himself to you as the "way" confirming the Quran as truth? Isn't it what men like you wrote down that you do and follow with all your whole vain life? Don't you use your head?

The Quoran was not written by Mohammed..in fact a verse in the surah described mohammed as an 'unlettered man'..he didn't go to school...Therefore, he couldn't have written such a wonderful book. The Quaran and every word in it was written by Allah. The original tablet in which it was written is in paradise..

Having established that; I just want to know if some parts of the quaran are to be ignored, while we obey the other parts, because according to Allah's command the Boko-haram are not wrong! Will Allah punish the Bokoharam for obeying him or will he punish the ordinary muslim for disobedience / timidity??

DDeliverer:


The Quoran was not written by Man. Mohammed didn't go to school, infact there is a part of the Sura that described him as unlettered. So Mohammed couldn't have written such a wonderful book..
As a matter of fact, the original tablet in which the quaran was written is in paradise...The Quaran was written by Allah.

Present evidence for those words in bold since you are now asserting it.

My question to my muslim brothers is, do we obey some parts of the quoran and ignore other parts?? Or are there some special interpretations to some verses? Is the ordinary muslim wrong? Or is Bokoharam wrong?

I leave you with this:



Take the last sentence into serious consideration.

DDeliverer:


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Hahaha. Dude, you've got me on that one.