PastorKun:
He should have gone a step further and told her that as a christian she is not meant to tithe in the first instance.

Not meant to tithe as a Christian? Pls explain

andyanders:


Well, if your word here is to condemn Prophet T.B. Joshua by saying it was a "Public Stunt " as you said, then you should have condemned Jesus when he went and raised Lazarus who was dead from the grave.Also you should have condemned Jesus too when he called his disciples to bring water of which he turned it into wine.You equally should have condemned Jesus for asking his disciples to bring the little fish they had of which he prayed and asked them to now share to those who were hungry.He should have done those things is private.

The woman came in public to give the money and he returned it to her and added another 500k for her to give and now used the opportunity to teach other men of God not to collect tithe from those widows whom we are supposed to look after and you are here condemning his works.

If he had collected the money from same woman, people like you also would have come out to condemn him by calling him names that he has stolen from a widow and old folks.

Note that there is nothing on this earth that people cannot condemn you but when you know who sent you, you do not listen to people like you hence the man of God do not respond to critics like you.

You making me to laugh.

Chei!God bless him!but this man dey spoilt bizness 4 ayo,oyeds,mathew olowo,lazo mouka,ukonkwo,kris okutie,oyaks that iz Y dey hate him.

[quote author=kenkwodoski post=30420485]After collecting billions from the poor by selling anoiting water, oil, stickers, his pictures, etc. for as high as 10,000...This man is a hypocrite..


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This is how people attract Generational curses,if you don't understand spiritual things keep quite,before you Blamsphem against the Holy Spirit,that one no get Forgiveness,ignorance and it can follow your generation,don't say nobody WARNED YOU OOOOO quite]

How can you justify someone not paying tithes because the are old
Even if its between them and God it not tb joshuas call to make
He basically blocks the blessings she would have received from it

[color=#006600][/color][quote author=TheMatrix3 post=30423888]Please lets not be decived, you dont return tithes because it is not your money... its not an offering either. Your tithe is simply one-tenth of your salary/income given to God as a commandment for Christians (and for ignorant, it is not your business what the pastors/ministers do with the money - just obey Gods command). This was actually wrong. He could konly have returned it if it was a gift offering to him, However we are not allowed to talk evil against a preacher, lets just get the facts right[/quote)
No the tithes is for the CHURCH(THAT THERE MAYBE MEAT IN MY HOUSE,NOT PASTORS HOUSE OR POCKETS) THEY EARLY CHURCH IN ACTS,SHARED EVERYTHING IN COMMON)
SO tithes is made for the people of God]

[quote author=mekaboy post=30422172]Rubish. Is he GOD? the woman is simply obeying GOD. She is bringing her tithe into GODs house. They tithe is 10% of what she has been blessed with.

Even JESUS collected the offering of the poor widow and blessed her. I advice she take her tight to another church and pay it
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You think about the money,but God Look at the Heart. BEFORE GOD THAT WOMAN HAS PAID HER TITHES,,OH CARNAL MINDED PEOPLE, SEEK THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR UNDERSTANDING H]

Am usually a joker and I despise all the so-called 'men of gad' equally, but I've been following this TB Joshua guy closely and unless am a fool or a liar, I cannot deny that this guy is the genuine article. No be me go make fun of a real Prophet of God o! But as for Adeboye and Oyedepo, those two should shut the f up before holy ghost fire burns down their churches

None of us are running to hell, only those who refuse the truth, tithers speak only of a commandment written in the old testament part of the Mosaic law that was given from God.
But no-one seems to speak of any of the commandments Jesus gave?

God gave all the authority over to his Son Jesus.
And Jesus had changed that old Jewish covenant, given us a new covenant so even the Gentiles could believe and follow.

You can't even make it into Heaven without Jesus.

Sacrificing, tithing and offerings would work together as one with the law.

Today in Israel you will find no-one tithe.

Tithing is no longer needed, we live by faith, and by faith we live by grace.

Do you tithe? Do you sacrifice? Do you give offerings? Do you obey all the 613 laws that was given.
Do you stone your child if he disobeys you.

They did not tithe without sacrificing, or paid any offerings, they always came together back to back in the old testament.
Deuteronomy 12:6-"Therefore you shall take your burnt offerings, your sacrificing, your tithes, the heave offerings of your hand, your vowed offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and flocks.

Some tithers may believe that tithing save's them.
Think about it, its not written in word.

Galatians 3:10-For as many as are under the works of the law are under a curse.
This law was given to the Jews.

Galatians 3:23-25-But the scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
{Might be given to those who believe, that's given as Gentiles a chance to live for Christ.}

But before faith came, the Jews were kept under guard by the Mosaic law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
Therefore the law was a tutor to bring them to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come>{Jesus}< they are no longer under a tutor.

Don't forget even to this day, most Jews are still waiting for their messiah to come, the Jews had crucified him, because they didn't recognize him, even after the prophets have written about Jesus in the Torah-Quran.

They watch him performed many miracles, walked on water, raised the dead, healed their sick, the blind now see, and still very few believed.
Ask a Jewish solar today about Jesus, they only know him as a prophet.
Jesus prophesied about the temple, made by man, that same temple-Levi priest collected tithes, done sacrificing and given the offerings to God; yearly, and yet it will be torn in two.

Jesus offered himself, making away for us to be closer to God.
He fulfilled his prophesies, its written, still they don't believe.

They rejected everything about Jesus.

It's pretty simple to understand.

There was no law given' like this, for any Gentiles to follow.
God called us in, as Gentiles.
Ephesians 1:5- we are called adopted sons and daughters.

So it shows clearly those who tithe, are choosing to follow an old testament Mosaic law system rather than to follow after Christ.
Those Jews who still believed in the old testament tithing system, haven't seen the Father, nor the Son, but denying his power.

God the Father gave all his authority over to his Son Jesus Christ.
By Jesus dying he paid full price, sacrificing himself, offering himself, using the three measures' what was used from the O/testament of tithing, sacrificing and offerings, dying for the remission of sins, once and for all, saving all man kind, GENTILES and JEWS.

It's finished, Jesus paid full price.

Tithing, sacrificing and offerings "WAS" a commandment from God, for the Jews.

No where in the bible does it say you can tithe without the other, tithing, sacrificing and offerings were one in all.

And no where in the bible does it say, the Gentiles must follow the old Jewish law.

Jesus Christ is Lord.

watchman111:
compulsorytithing is a command from God..I just the pity some Christians,they are running to hell without knowing.

jaybee3:
5 million gratuity that was never going to be enough for her to live on but yet she still felt compelled to donate 10% geez


Why are my people in bondage?

It wasn't donated, it belongs to God, it is not even in the man of God position to reject it.

georgesylva:

It wasn't donated, it belongs to God, it is not even in the man of God position to reject it.

Why will this God of yours give you something then expect some of it back?
You are not making sense Sir

brocab:
None of us are running to hell, only those who refuse the truth, tithers speak only of a commandment written in the old testament part of the Mosaic law that was given from God.
But no-one seems to speak of any of the commandments Jesus gave?

God gave all the authority over to his Son Jesus.
And Jesus had changed that old Jewish covenant, given us a new covenant so even the Gentiles could believe and follow.

You can't even make it into Heaven without Jesus.

Sacrificing, tithing and offerings would work together as one with the law.

Today in Israel you will find no-one tithe.

Tithing is no longer needed, we live by faith, and by faith we live by grace.

Do you tithe? Do you sacrifice? Do you give offerings? Do you obey all the 613 laws that was given.
Do you stone your child if he disobeys you.

They did not tithe without sacrificing, or paid any offerings, they always came together back to back in the old testament.
Deuteronomy 12:6-"Therefore you shall take your burnt offerings, your sacrificing, your tithes, the heave offerings of your hand, your vowed offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and flocks.

Some tithers may believe that tithing save's them.
Think about it, its not written in word.

Galatians 3:10-For as many as are under the works of the law are under a curse.
This law was given to the Jews.

Galatians 3:23-25-But the scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
{Might be given to those who believe, that's given as Gentiles a chance to live for Christ.}

But before faith came, the Jews were kept under guard by the Mosaic law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
Therefore the law was a tutor to bring them to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come>{Jesus}< they are no longer under a tutor.

Don't forget even to this day, most Jews are still waiting for their messiah to come, the Jews had crucified him, because they didn't recognize him, even after the prophets have written about Jesus in the Torah-Quran.

They watch him performed many miracles, walked on water, raised the dead, healed their sick, the blind now see, and still very few believed.
Ask a Jewish solar today about Jesus, they only know him as a prophet.
Jesus prophesied about the temple, made by man, that same temple-Levi priest collected tithes, done sacrificing and given the offerings to God; yearly, and yet it will be torn in two.

Jesus offered himself, making away for us to be closer to God.
He fulfilled his prophesies, its written, still they don't believe.

They rejected everything about Jesus.

It's pretty simple to understand.

There was no law given' like this, for any Gentiles to follow.
God called us in, as Gentiles.
Ephesians 1:5- we are called adopted sons and daughters.

So it shows clearly those who tithe, are choosing to follow an old testament Mosaic law system rather than to follow after Christ.
Those Jews who still believed in the old testament tithing system, haven't seen the Father, nor the Son, but denying his power.

God the Father gave all his authority over to his Son Jesus Christ.
By Jesus dying he paid full price, sacrificing himself, offering himself, using the three measures' what was used from the O/testament of tithing, sacrificing and offerings, dying for the remission of sins, once and for all, saving all man kind, GENTILES and JEWS.

It's finished, Jesus paid full price.

Tithing, sacrificing and offerings "WAS" a commandment from God, for the Jews.

No where in the bible does it say you can tithe without the other, tithing, sacrificing and offerings were one in all.

And no where in the bible does it say, the Gentiles must follow the old Jewish law.

Jesus Christ is Lord.

hmmmmm..I have a simple question for you..if all the law has been destroyed y den do u not fornicate.shey d law says thou shall not fornicate..u know nothing about d law..

Lol....show off

elohorayodele:



Not meant to tithe as a Christian? Pls explain

There is not one single scripture in the whole bible asking or requiring christians to tithe. The popular malachi 3:10 used to preach tithes in churches was not directed to christians but to jews as christians are not under the jewish laws. That aside it's twisted before applying it to the church.
Read deuteronomy 14:22-29 to know more about biblical tithing.

@ OP
My thoghts, assuming this story is true and verified:

1. The woman gave the tithe to God not to the MOG.
2. The MOG was appointed by God to collect the money on His behalf and use it as instructed.
3. The MOG is obligated to bless the woman so God's promises attached to this singular act of faith may be realised in her life.
4. The MOG holds the right to give the woman any amount he so wish provided God leads him to do so.
5. I think the money she received was not the tithe returned but a gift from the MOG.

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PastorKun:
He should have gone a step further and told her that as a christian she is not meant to tithe in the first instance.

...why do you speak with such anger and hate?

ozeonline1:
...why do you speak with such anger and hate?

Where is the anger and hate in what I wrote Is it too much that I ask he tells the woman the truth?

Firstly" Do you think tithing is the law, are you a Jew?

You think you know about the law, if that's the case, why then do you tithe with out sacrificing and give offerings.
Those three came as one a law in all, so why obey the one and not the others.

Jesus said: to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:23 For you pay tithes of mint and anise and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: Justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.

The above scripture tells your story clearly, you tithe but you don't sacrifice.
These you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.
You can't do one without the other, they work together as a team

Secondly" Jesus came and fulfilled the laws, given us a new covenant to live for.

In part of those 613 laws given by God, could you stone your child, if he or she wouldn't obey you?
By Jesus fulfilling the laws, those old laws no-longer exist, {Or should we say Jesus re arrange them} from a death sentence law, to a life given freedom in Christ}.
Jesus says discipline your child, give them no reason for he or she to disobey you.

Love those who persecute you, do good to those who use you, pray for your enemies.

Deuteronomy 19:21 O/Testament law "Your eye shall not pity; but life shall be for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Matthew 5:38-N/Testament law "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. "But I tell you not to resist a evil person. If he slaps you one the one cheek, turn the other also.
Those two scriptures shows a big change in law, from death to life.

Hebrews 7:8-Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it was witnessed that he lives.
Tithes were given to men that die.
Those who believe will live.

So you must ask yourself are you dying, or are you alive in Christ?
Jesus has paid the full price, we no longer need to tithe.
What don't you understand?

John 3:36- He who believes in the son has ever lasting life.
John 5:24-"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into the judgement, but has past from death to life.

So all men who receive tithes, are dead.
Do we worship the dead?
No...
Do you pay tithes to the dead?

Jesus has taken us from death to life.
So the tithing laws have finished.

It is written! Do you believe in the scriptures?

watchman111:
hmmmmm..I have a simple question for you..if all the law has been destroyed y den do u not fornicate.shey d law says thou shall not fornicate..u know nothing about d law..

brocab:
Firstly" Do you think tithing is the law, are you a Jew?

You think you know about the law, if that's the case, why then do you tithe with out sacrificing and give offerings.
Those three came as one a law in all, so why obey the one and not the others.

Jesus said: to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:23 For you pay tithes of mint and anise and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: Justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.

The above scripture tells your story clearly, you tithe but you don't sacrifice.
These you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.
You can't do one without the other, they work together as a team

Secondly" Jesus came and fulfilled the laws, given us a new covenant to live for.

In part of those 613 laws given by God, could you stone your child, if he or she wouldn't obey you?
By Jesus fulfilling the laws, those old laws no-longer exist, {Or should we say Jesus re arrange them} from a death sentence law, to a life given freedom in Christ}.
Jesus says discipline your child, give them no reason for he or she to disobey you.

Love those who persecute you, do good to those who use you, pray for your enemies.

Deuteronomy 19:21 O/Testament law "Your eye shall not pity; but life shall be for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Matthew 5:38-N/Testament law "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. "But I tell you not to resist a evil person. If he slaps you one the one cheek, turn the other also.
Those two scriptures shows a big change in law, from death to life.

Hebrews 7:8-Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it was witnessed that he lives.
Tithes were given to men that die.
Those who believe will live.

So you must ask yourself are you dying, or are you alive in Christ?
Jesus has paid the full price, we no longer need to tithe.
What don't you understand?

John 3:36- He who believes in the son has ever lasting life.
John 5:24-"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into the judgement, but has past from death to life.

So all men who receive tithes, are dead.
Do we worship the dead?
No...
Do you pay tithes to the dead?

Jesus has taken us from death to life.
So the tithing laws have finished.

It is written! Do you believe in the scriptures?

you have not answered my question.if the law was destroyed why don't you go about fornicating??you keep misinterpreting The scripture and leading people to hell..answer my question directly or stop quoting me.I ask you again.if the ALL the law has been broken or destroyed,why don't you go about fornicating,killing and destroying people.I thought the law condemns,fornication,lesbianism,homosexuality, bestiality,worshiping graven images,speaking ill of a prophet??if the law has been TOTALLY BROKEN,why then do you not sleep with goats and donkeys??........I want you to know that I believe in the bible..

I can see you are modifying my words, and if you think the bible scriptures leads people to hell. God help you.
This proves to me you are not reading bible scripture.
Jesus fulfilled the laws as scripture says.
And if your still not convinced try reading a bible.

Instead of death from the old testament laws he had given us life in the new testament laws.
Fornication.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21, If a young woman has fornicated she will be brought to the door of her fathers house and the men of that city shall stone her to death.
In Leviticus 21:9, "The daughter of the priest, if she profanes herself by playing the harlot, she profanes her father, she shall burn by fire.

In the old testament the 613 laws given by God-if one fornicated you were stoned to death or set on fire.
In the new testament, Jesus had fulfilled the old testament laws, made away for us to repent, given us a new testament law, so we no longer live under the death sentence.
But now he has given us a chance to repent, as long as we don't repeat our actions over again, we can live for Christ..
Can't you see the change, we are free from the law-from death to life?

If you still don't get it, then this shows clearly you yourself don't read the word to understand.
Just a motor mouth who causes disputes over words, proud knowing nothing, destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is the means of Gain {Money}.
From such withdraw yourselves.
1 Timothy 6:3-5.
Do you understand that?

And if you are still paying tithes, and are following the old Mosaic laws then you are cursed with a curse.
But if you don't follow old testament laws, then you don't tithe.

And if one was to sleep with you then of course he or she is sleeping with a donkey..
Goats are to smart, they know how to climb to the top.

watchman111:
you have not answered my question.if the law was destroyed why don't you go about fornicating??you keep misinterpreting The scripture and leading people to hell..answer my question directly or stop quoting me.I ask you again.if the ALL the law has been broken or destroyed,why don't you go about fornicating,killing and destroying people.I thought the law condemns,fornication,lesbianism,homosexuality, bestiality,worshiping graven images,speaking ill of a prophet??if the law has been TOTALLY BROKEN,why then do you not sleep with goats and donkeys??........I want you to know that I believe in the bible..

brocab:
I can see you are modifying my words, and if you think the bible scriptures leads people to hell. God help you.
This proves to me you are not reading bible scripture.
Jesus fulfilled the laws as scripture says.
And if your still not convinced try reading a bible.

Instead of death from the old testament laws he had given us life in the new testament laws.
Fornication.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21, If a young woman has fornicated she will be brought to the door of her fathers house and the men of that city shall stone her to death.
In Leviticus 21:9, "The daughter of the priest, if she profanes herself by playing the harlot, she profanes her father, she shall burn by fire.

In the old testament the 613 laws given by God-if one fornicated you were stoned to death or set on fire.
In the new testament, Jesus had fulfilled the old testament laws, made away for us to repent, given us a new testament law, so we no longer live under the death sentence.
But now he has given us a chance to repent, as long as we don't repeat our actions over again, we can live for Christ..
Can't you see the change, we are free from the law-from death to life?

If you still don't get it, then this shows clearly you yourself don't read the word to understand.
Just a motor mouth who causes disputes over words, proud knowing nothing, destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is the means of Gain {Money}.
From such withdraw yourselves.
1 Timothy 6:3-5.
Do you understand that?

And if you are still paying tithes, and are following the old Mosaic laws then you are cursed with a curse.
But if you don't follow old testament laws, then you don't tithe.

And if one was to sleep with you then of course he or she is sleeping with a donkey..
Not a goat they are to smart.

you claim you know everything but you still can not answer my question.I wanted to tell you the truth about the law but it seems you know everything,.I have paid tithes,I have sowed seeds and I have reaped massively the dividends of it..I am busy reaping the dividend of tithing you are busy accusing pastors..I have not quoted any scripture yet oh,all I am waiting,is for you to answer my questions and if you do by the help of God I will show you scripturally how wrong you are.nevertheless,I don't blve in excessive talking becos talk is cheap.if you doubt me,take 10% of your monthly income and give it as tithe.you will be shocked..please don't quote me again if u can't ansa my question.I ask you for the last time.IF THE LAW HAS BEEN TOTALLY DESTROYED WHY DONT YOU GO SLEEP WITH ANIMALSif u can't answer,I will not reply the next time you quote me.

His mates are busy acquiring Private jets, mansions and Universities..

Firstly: They are your words when you say the law has been totally destroyed.

You seem to be hooked up about sleeping with animals, everyone have their own desires.
You need to repent.

I said: the old testament death sentence laws no-longer exist, we no-longer live under death, we now live for life.
The laws have changed from death to life.
It's that simple

I have never claimed I know everything, the words I speak is not from my own words but the Lords, it's your choice to answer or not, It wouldn't matter if one was speaking the truth to you, you wouldn't recognize it.
Still.
Secondly: you haven't given me a positive Question that one could answer.

Thirdly: you claim you are wanting to share the truth about the law, but still you haven't shared that truth, you may feel over powered by the word of God, but I a sure you the word I speak is not from my own words, but the spirit that lives in me.
My flesh alone can't speak this wisdom and knowledge, it can only come from the Lord.

Your not understanding about the law, before sin came into the world there was no law, after the fall of Adam, sin came into the world,
and the law had began.

So now we have a law, after reading the scriptures, God had made that law in the old testament, most petty crimes were a death sentence.
And everybody who had committed a sin were under that law.

In the old testament, if your child disobeyed his parents, he or she could be stoned to death, if one fornicated, he or she was stone to death others burned alive, just as simple as that-this old testament law was a death sentence.

As Jesus say's: those who don't sin, cast the first stone.
All sinned, with the old testament law-sinners were stoning other sinners to death.

The Lord say's: Judge not or you shall be judged-we are all sinners, and that's why Jesus had to changed the law.

Tithing and sacrificing, and offerings were part of that law, and yearly it was used for the remissions of sin.


After Jesus arrived, and later died, Jesus took those old laws, and had fulfilled those old laws, by replacing them old laws from death to life.
So now we will always obey those life living new laws, knowing if we had committed a sin-we no-longer come under the death sentence {being stoned to death by other sinners} we can now repent and ask the Lord for forgiveness, and live.

And the world follows the world, and those who have committed a crime, a sin, will be punished by law, either put in prison, or maybe a slap on the wrist or receive a fine.
In most countries these same laws the Lord had given still stands today.

It's sad when you here of some countries around the world don't believe in Christ, but prefer only to come under the old testament death sentence laws.
The Muslim country Islam, matches up to Allah God's old testament laws.

But in most countries around the world, the death sentence, usually in some cases given to those who have committed a murder, not all murder crimes, some with drug smuggling, not all drug smuggling, etc.

Old testament you were stoned to death, have you heard of that saying a eye for a eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand a foot for a foot.

Every country have there own laws to obey.
All people have to obey the laws there countries act on.
Laws only came to power when sin arrived.


Those people who would rather obey old testament Mosaic laws in today's day and age, are still under the curse, they haven't yet known the Christ, nor God the father.
In old testament day's even the Pharisees were cursed-waiting for the messiah to arrive, blinded by the light they didn't recognize him either alive or after his death sentence.
Still.

But in your case, being a tithe supporter, you have chosen to stay under that Mosaic law, part of the 613 laws.
Hebrews 7:8 Here moral men receive tithes-tithes were given to people who die.
Still under the death sentence.

Anyone who claims they are alive in Christ don't receive or pay tithes.

Where in the bible does it say: tithing still exist?

Listen, we all have falling sort of the tithing lies, we have all given our tithes to the Church, only because we didn't understand the word of God.
But now we understand, and every time we are seeking him, the lord shows us deeper into the scriptures, what truth is.
Amen.
Do you understand

watchman111:
you claim you know everything but you still can not answer my question.I wanted to tell you the truth about the law but it seems you know everything,.I have paid tithes,I have sowed seeds and I have reaped massively the dividends of it..I am busy reaping the dividend of tithing you are busy accusing pastors..I have not quoted any scripture yet oh,all I am waiting,is for you to answer my questions and if you do by the help of God I will show you scripturally how wrong you are.nevertheless,I don't blve in excessive talking becos talk is cheap.if you doubt me,take 10% of your monthly income and give it as tithe.you will be shocked..please don't quote me again if u can't ansa my question.I ask you for the last time.IF THE LAW HAS BEEN TOTALLY DESTROYED WHY DONT YOU GO SLEEP WITH ANIMALSif u can't answer,I will not reply the next time you quote me.

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100Cents:
His mates are busy acquiring Private jets, mansions and Universities..

Pastors run churches as their own private business while TB Joshua don’t even own a bank account.
Prophet TB Joshua is today, father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless, friend to the friendless, always giving because Jesus said, “It is more blessed to give than to receive.
Sadly, the gap between the so-called religious accusers and the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is ever widening as many leading pastors in the world are becoming more embroiled in the pursuit of money and material gain than the essence of Christ’s gospel and work. Kingdom business seems more like worldly business, with pastors making headlines for expensive acquisitions, lavish living and political speeches as opposed to solving problems, meeting needs and changing lives.
Ilobi Austin, a catholic in faith, wrote, “While God is ordering the Holy Prophet (T.B. Joshua’s) counterparts to acquire more automobiles and in some cases, private jets with cost in the billion bracket, the same God is asking the Holy Prophet TB Joshua to love humanity like himself and consequently, improve their earthly and heavenly fortunes. Prophet TB Joshua is today, father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless, friend to the friendless and government to the government-less. Little wonder then, that the good Lord magnanimously found him worthy for the arduous task of delivering his people from the vice grip of the devil. Such powers in the hands of such ministers, who have made the criticism of his ministries their pastime, would have seen deliverance going to the highest bidders.”
Investigations reveal that TB Joshua don’t even own a bank account. He simply gives away freely.

OmoPastor:
@ OP
My thoghts, assuming this story is true and verified:

1. The woman gave the tithe to God not to the MOG.
2. The MOG was appointed by God to collect the money on His behalf and use it as instructed.
3. The MOG is obligated to bless the woman so God's promises attached to this singular act of faith may be realised in her life.
4. The MOG holds the right to give the woman any amount he so wish provided God leads him to do so.
5. I think the money she received was not the tithe returned but a gift from the MOG.

Pastors run churches as their own private business while TB Joshua don’t even own a bank account.
Prophet TB Joshua is today, father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless, friend to the friendless, always giving because Jesus said, “It is more blessed to give than to receive.
Sadly, the gap between the so-called religious accusers and the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is ever widening as many leading pastors in the world are becoming more embroiled in the pursuit of money and material gain than the essence of Christ’s gospel and work. Kingdom business seems more like worldly business, with pastors making headlines for expensive acquisitions, lavish living and political speeches as opposed to solving problems, meeting needs and changing lives.
Ilobi Austin, a catholic in faith, wrote, “While God is ordering the Holy Prophet (T.B. Joshua’s) counterparts to acquire more automobiles and in some cases, private jets with cost in the billion bracket, the same God is asking the Holy Prophet TB Joshua to love humanity like himself and consequently, improve their earthly and heavenly fortunes. Prophet TB Joshua is today, father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless, friend to the friendless and government to the government-less. Little wonder then, that the good Lord magnanimously found him worthy for the arduous task of delivering his people from the vice grip of the devil. Such powers in the hands of such ministers, who have made the criticism of his ministries their pastime, would have seen deliverance going to the highest bidders.”
Investigations reveal that TB Joshua don’t even own a bank account. He simply gives away freely.

PastorKun:


Where is the anger and hate in what I wrote Is it too much that I ask he tells the woman the truth?

It is a sin for sick people to go into a church of CHRIST and go home the same. As witnessed at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria everyone is healed.

Everyone has enough faith to be healed instantly whether they are Jew, Muslim, Buddist or even So-called Christians. Their faith is shown by coming forward for the healing. Their faith is always enough ! This also repeatedly shown to be true daily on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com.
It is the superior faith of the healer that is needed to complete the healing, not the small faith of the congregation. Jesus said to his apprentice healers, “unto you is given the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven.” Unto the masses he said, “ if you have faith as small as a mustard seed.”

Because of Prophet TB Joshua’s compassion for unbelievers such as the medical scientific community and the unbelieving clergy, no one can come for healing at SCOAN anymore unless they have medical (scientific) proof of their problems. This is inline with the way Jesus Christ and his disciples worked. They always provided proof of the love of God while fixing all the problems of the suffering masses.

watchman111:
you claim you know everything but you still can not answer my question.I wanted to tell you the truth about the law but it seems you know everything,.I have paid tithes,I have sowed seeds and I have reaped massively the dividends of it..I am busy reaping the dividend of tithing you are busy accusing pastors..I have not quoted any scripture yet oh,all I am waiting,is for you to answer my questions and if you do by the help of God I will show you scripturally how wrong you are.nevertheless,I don't blve in excessive talking becos talk is cheap.if you doubt me,take 10% of your monthly income and give it as tithe.you will be shocked..please don't quote me again if u can't ansa my question.I ask you for the last time.IF THE LAW HAS BEEN TOTALLY DESTROYED WHY DONT YOU GO SLEEP WITH ANIMALSif u can't answer,I will not reply the next time you quote me.

While you guys fight over tithes, you are missing greater work donr in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria.
It is a sin for sick people to go into a church of CHRIST and go home the same. As witnessed at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria everyone is healed.

Everyone has enough faith to be healed instantly whether they are Jew, Muslim, Buddist or even So-called Christians. Their faith is shown by coming forward for the healing. Their faith is always enough ! This is repeatedly demonstrated daily on Emmanual TV and youtube.com for the whole world to study.

It is the superior faith of the healer that is needed to complete the healing, not the small faith of the congregation. Jesus said to his apprentice healers, “unto you is given the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven.” Unto the masses he said, “ if you have faith as small as a mustard seed.”

Because of Prophet TB Joshua’s compassion for unbelievers such as the medical scientific community and the unbelieving clergy, no one can come for healing at SCOAN anymore unless they have medical (scientific) proof of their problems. This is inline with the way Jesus Christ and his disciples worked. They always provided proof of the love of God while fixing all the problems of the suffering masses.

She wasn't meant to tithe in the first place-TBJ only gave back because she gave less.

Achutebe:
Just read this inspiring story on TBJ's Facebook Page...

OUR ELDERLY, OUR PRIDE: The Touching Story Of A Widow And Her Tithe...

The case of Mrs. Caroline Orugude deserves a place in the spotlight. On that unforgettable Sunday, which will remain engraved on the hearts of the thousands of people that heard her, she gently made her way to the altar of The SCOAN. Delicately clenching a hand that was just recovering from a recent attack of stroke, the elderly woman had the air of one with important news.

She came with a simple gift and message that would speak volumes to men and women of God the world over. A retired teacher from Bayelsa in Southern Nigeria, this woman still had a thing or two to teach the “young ones”.

When she spoke, it was with carefully chosen words: “What brought me here is the urge to testify of the goodness of God in my life,” she began. Every ear zeroed in, as she narrated how she had retired from her job in June, 2012 and was forced to wait many months for her gratuity that was supposed to have been paid immediately. She said: “There was nothing much we could do except pray because the pension system is unreliable. So, I kept praying for almost two years about this.”

Mrs. Orugude requested prayers from many pastors for breakthrough, promising she would pay her tithe, but the pension remained withheld.

After she was introduced by a family member to Emmanuel TV, her mindset began to change. “I witnessed the goodness of the Lord and how the God of T.B. Joshua helps people to achieve their goals,” said Mrs. Orugude. A month before this landmark testimony, the elderly lady began to change her prayer points, aligning them with what she saw on Emmanuel TV.

When praying, she would place the documents for the gratuity on the screen of Emmanuel TV, thanking God for His mercy. Then the mighty hand of God touched her!

Within two weeks, she received a call from the treasury, asking her to go to the capital city, Abuja. “I said, ‘Wow! Is it for the gratuity?’ They said, ‘Yes’. Brethren, I knelt down. The joy in me that day, I cannot express it. I said, ‘thank You, Lord. I am going to Lagos’. I decided when I got the money, I would come here [to The SCOAN] to appreciate the Lord,” she said.

Then, while everyone including the millions of viewers across the world watched, the frail woman made a statement that stunned all: “I am here with the small sum of 500,000 naira, to give to the man of God and The SCOAN, as my tithe.” Mrs. Orugude’s declaration soon filled the Church-gone-silent with gasps of astonishment.

A mark had been made! At her age, no one would have expected her to part with such a huge amount of money, at a time when she needed it most. The action could not pass unnoticed by the Man of God, T.B. Joshua. His response to the touching gesture was equally surprising.

He said: “Yes, it is written in the Bible that we should pay tithe, but how can we collect tithe from widows and the aged who are supposed to be under our care? Remember, she has stopped working. She needs our care for the rest of her life. These are the women we should be feeding and taking care of. She is our mother; she is my mother too.”

The man of God then announced that instead of receiving Mrs. Orugude’s tithe, he would support her with an additional 500,000 naira, as a gift to take care of her.

Explaining why he took such a unique stance, T.B. Joshua spoke about the marks of a genuine servant of God: “When God calls a man or woman, what they will eat, what they will use and everything they need for their journey will be provided abundantly by God, because God wants honour and respect for His anointed ones,” he said.

“When a minister begins to depend on tithes, you know he is not a minister of God. It is written that offerings and tithes are very important to the house of God, but a minister of God who is called by God Almighty should not depend on offerings and tithes. Tithe is between you and your God.

“This is a message to ministers of God all over the world. When we collect tithes, we should know those whom we collect them from. Don’t force anybody – it is between them and God. Since the Bible says the door of blessings will open, leave them to God. It is not you that opens the door of blessing. If someone is not giving the right tithe, he will not receive anything from God, and if he is doing the right thing, he will receive from God. Let us worship the Giver of money, not money,” the Prophet said.

This example might cause you to smile but it is just part of the move Prophet T.B. Joshua has been making, along with Emmanuel TV Partners, to fulfil the divine obligation, which requires all Christians to help the elderly.

Every Sunday at The SCOAN, the elderly are allocated a section in the church where they enjoy the company and fellowship of their peers during the service. Additionally, free transportation in luxurious buses is provided to and from their homes, courtesy of T.B. Joshua and Emmanuel TV Partners. A welfare programme is also in operation, granting a monthly allowance, supplies and foodstuffs to each of the elderly in the church.

The Bible makes it very clear that it is not a crime to be old; it is the grace of God. Psalm 91:14-16 says: “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name. He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honour him. With long life I will satisfy him, and show him My salvation.”

The elderly nurtured and reared us in love, care and warmth. This is the time to reciprocate their love, care and tenderness, now that they are too old to meet their needs unaided. Any community or nation that neglects their old ones, neglects God because it is the will of God to grow old (Isaiah 46:3-4).

Where are your elderly? Care for them and you shall reach old age.

This story was taken from the first issue of Read Us, the official magazine of The SCOAN


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Read the truth in the bible-tithing doesn't exist with the Gentiles..
Only some Jews tithed, not all..

elohorayodele:



Not meant to tithe as a Christian? Pls explain

But more than you..

watchman111:
hmmmmm..I have a simple question for you..if all the law has been destroyed y den do u not fornicate.shey d law says thou shall not fornicate..u know nothing about d law..