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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 5:33pm On Feb 11, 2015
atlwireles:



Several issues, lack of infrastructures and pricing are the main bottlenecks.

We are getting there.....you can now see why it's difficult for any prospective player to enter if certain issues are unresolved?

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by ijeabom(m): 5:36pm On Feb 11, 2015
Is this how this clueless animal hope to encourage our indigenous car factory? Nigerian is producing cars now and the best thing to do is to place higher tariff on imported cars to boost patronage for the home base and thereby growing our beloved economy.
Please think or consult the economics novice BooHarry for advice.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by utytill(m): 5:37pm On Feb 11, 2015
more reasons not to vote u.is that how u are going to encourage investors?pls go do ur phd first.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by omenka(m): 5:38pm On Feb 11, 2015
Good to know, but such a pronouncement could ultimately boomerang especially given PDP's knack to turn things upside down. They would definitely interpret this to mean APC has an agenda to
strangle the local auto industry that has been "transformed under Goodluck Jonathan".

It would definitely be appreciated by the Cotonou boys and car dealers, but the elites who have vested interest in the domestic auto industry would no doubt have their feathers ruffled by it.

I hope APC does well to clarify such pronouncements as regards their intentions so they don't leave any room for PDP to manipulate things.
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Pebcak: 5:39pm On Feb 11, 2015
ilugunboy:



When you encourage 100-200 small modular power operators generating around 10MW per plant in each regions of Nigeria and dedicated to specific neighborhoods ...you can easily add around 2,000MW per region.....that is 6,000MW.

Honesty power generation and 24hr power supply is not a difficult science, as the likes of the Lagos State government, Dangote, Nigeria flour mills and BUA have proven to us.....its a science that have been in existence for several years ..

We just need a governemmt that can take such bold initiative and not the halfhearted privatization that was sold to us...



Currently power generation is decentralized because every home or say 95% have a power generating set lets say thats on a microscopic view, lets up that up to a bigger scale at the level of local govt or even state level we dont need all the power coming from kanji or shiroro that can be put on grid for backup when a power plant is down for tech issues or maintenance
This plan can fix power issue and also generate employment imagine decentralized power plant across the country that provide jobs for 1000s if not 100000s and imagine how many family that will change
Imagine our refinery is up to do with thats job and thats changing a lot of a families, imagine they will be employing cleaners,drivers,gate men,security personnel, clerks, professionals, engineers etc
It is not difficult but when government careless about the citizen what do u expect

# change

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by atlwireles: 5:39pm On Feb 11, 2015
ilugunboy:


Price ? Who regulates it..?

It's far more than just issue of price...

Price is a big part of the problem. Remember the gencos pay below the market price for gas. NNPC is compelled to sell to them at a discount. Dangote, Honeywell and co, don't enjoy this same discounts. Then, we have the issue of basic infrastructure(transmission hubs)
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by mrmetoo1: 5:42pm On Feb 11, 2015
talktimi:
This man is either clueless grin or he really doesn't have a grasp/idea of what he's yapping about

Ok please explain!

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 5:47pm On Feb 11, 2015
Pebcak:




Currently power generation is decentralized because every home or say 95% have a power generating set lets say thats on a microscopic view, lets up that up to a bigger scale at the level of local govt or even state level we dont need all the power coming from kanji or shiroro that can be put on grid for backup when a power plant is down for tech issues or maintenance

# change

Lolzzzz....it sound funny ....but it is the truth though.

Transmission is a big issue and that is the part that the government is not letting go....

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by fyneguy: 5:48pm On Feb 11, 2015
atlwireles:


No regulation is stopping you or states in Nigeria, from building their own plant. The big issue in Nigeria is the price of power.

You do not understand the issues. Yes many companies generate electricity which they can not plough to the grid because of transmission inadequacies.

By LAW, only TRANSCON can evacuate generated power and dump on distribution lines. Rivers state has an IPP with over 100MW capacity but your President instructed Transcon to not take from it because of the face-off with Amaechi.

Osinbajo is talking about decentralizing from generation up to distribution by setting up Modular plants with transmission and distribution facilities, as against the current inefficient model.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by mrmetoo1: 5:49pm On Feb 11, 2015
ijeabom:
Is this how this clueless animal hope to encourage our indigenous car factory? Nigerian is producing cars now and the best thing to do is to place higher tariff on imported cars to boost patronage for the home base and thereby growing our beloved economy.
Please think or consult the economics novice BooHarry for advice.

Seriously will you, at this point, let go of buying your Range or even your Toyota for Innoson? The point is, the policy is still immature. Those tariffs are nothing but a headache for right now. If Nissan comes in and starts full operation, I can understand how you might want to impose a high tariff on imported Nissan vehicles. Then a lot has to go in place before the high tariffs can really work, our credit system has to be implroved so that people will be able to afford this brand new cars. Importing still provides a life line for people that want to have decent cars without shelling out money for a brand new one.

These tariffs have really been a pain in the butt. 35% is way too high and their plan is to increase to 70%, that's just crazy.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by atlwireles: 5:49pm On Feb 11, 2015
fyneguy:


You do not understand the issues. Yes many companies generate electricity which they can not plough to the grid because of transmission inadequacies.

By LAW, only TRANSCON can evacuate generated power and dump on distribution lines. Rivers state has an IPP with over 100MW capacity but your President instructed Transcon to not take from it because of the face-off with Amaechi.

Osinbajo is talking about decentralizing from generation up to distribution by setting up Modular plants with transmission and distribution facilities, as against the current inefficient model.

Thanks
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 5:51pm On Feb 11, 2015
atlwireles:


Price is a big part of the problem. Remember the gencos pay below the market price for gas. NNPC is compelled to sell to them at a discount. Dangote, Honeywell and co, don't enjoy this same discounts. Then, we have the issue of basic infrastructure(transmission hubs)

Why is the government not privatizing the transmission grid...? Do you have an idea?

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by vanunu: 5:53pm On Feb 11, 2015
Apc wants to kill us, when we want nigeria to become car manufacturing hub in africa, apc wants to destroy that . Good things don't don't come easy.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by atlwireles: 5:55pm On Feb 11, 2015
ilugunboy:


Why is the government not privatizing the transmission grid...? Do you have an idea?

Unfounded fear, that's why we still have pipelines owned by government, for absolutely no reason.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 6:06pm On Feb 11, 2015
atlwireles:


Unfounded fear, that's why we still have pipelines owned by government, for absolutely no reason.




Perhaps you are correct....
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 6:08pm On Feb 11, 2015
BAD Policy! I don't support this one bit. How do they expect local manufacturers to compete with importers of cars considering the preference Nigerians have for imported goods? We are supposed to be thinking of overcoming the curse of importation. This is a bad policy to my
e said, “We do not agree that there should be high tariffs on imported cars whether new or old ones because Nigeria is not producing cars for now.

“What we will do first is to fix power and encourage local production of cars. But before then we will reduce the high tariffs that Nigerians are paying to import vehicles into the country.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by jmaine: 6:17pm On Feb 11, 2015
fyneguy:


You do not understand the issues. Yes many companies generate electricity which they can not plough to the grid because of transmission inadequacies.

By LAW, only TRANSCON can evacuate generated power and dump on distribution lines. Rivers state has an IPP with over 100MW capacity but your President instructed Transcon to not take from it because of the face-off with Amaechi.

Osinbajo is talking about decentralizing from generation up to distribution by setting up Modular plants with transmission and distribution facilities, as against the current inefficient model.

Propaganda like the bold demolishes salient points you wanted to raise . . . .

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Orunto: 6:18pm On Feb 11, 2015
When you flood the Nation with CHEAP CARS, you kill HOME PRODUCTION and cripple INDUSTRY!!!!

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by ogb5(m): 6:42pm On Feb 11, 2015
The so called professor pastor wants to move gas to power plants around Nigeria with trucks, he surely thinks gas for power plants is the same thing as cooking gas, idiota.

Pastors should concentrate on fleecing the tithes and offering of their congregation instead of joining politics and trying to fleece us all with lies.

APC e-rats please educate your professor, we know Buhari is dumb, but if the vice is also blockhead then you guys are in trouble. explain to him, Gas for power plant is methane and you don't transport methane around in trucks. Cooking gas that is distributed with trucks is either liquid propane of liquid Butane and no country in the world generate public power from expensive propane and butane in the presence of massive amounts of cheap methane. And by the way we do not even have enough manufacturing capacity for propane and butane for even home cooking not to talk of using it for power generation.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by PointB: 8:07am On Feb 12, 2015
Slashing the tariff is policy somersault that will set the hand of time backward. It will erase the gains of the automotive policy

What a sensible politician will do is to find a way to simulate production, not to encourage importation!

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 8:32am On Feb 12, 2015
fyneguy:


You do not understand the issues. Yes many companies generate electricity which they can not plough to the grid because of transmission inadequacies.

By LAW, only TRANSCON can evacuate generated power and dump on distribution lines. Rivers state has an IPP with over 100MW capacity but your President instructed Transcon to not take from it because of the face-off with Amaechi.

Osinbajo is talking about decentralizing from generation up to distribution by setting up Modular plants with transmission and distribution facilities, as against the current inefficient model.

God bless you jare. This what i have been telling people about this fake Decentralization.

Why on earth did the government hold on to transmission

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 8:35am On Feb 12, 2015
PointB:
Slashing the tariff is policy somersault that will set the hand of time backward. It will erase the gains of the automotive policy

What a sensible politician will do is to find a way to simulate production, not to encourage importation!

What gains if i may ask? Nigeria is a huge market and infrastructure (power) is the biggest incentive to kick start any sector not increased tarrifs.

We have outrightly banned frozen chicken but it hasn't helped our local production as 80% of what you find in the market today is smuggled in.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 8:39am On Feb 12, 2015
ogb5:
The so called professor pastor wants to move gas to power plants around Nigeria with trucks, he surely thinks gas for power plants is the same thing as cooking gas, idiota.

Pastors should concentrate on fleecing the tithes and offering of their congregation instead of joining politics and trying to fleece us all with lies.

APC e-rats please educate your professor, we know Buhari is dumb, but if the vice is also blockhead then you guys are in trouble. explain to him, Gas for power plant is methane and you don't transport methane around in trucks. Cooking gas that is distributed with trucks is either liquid propane of liquid Butane and no country in the world generate public power from expensive propane and butane in the presence of massive amounts of cheap methane. And by the way we do not even have enough manufacturing capacity for propane and butane for even home cooking not to talk of using it for power generation.

And who told you there ain't power plant running on cooking gas?

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by talktimi(m): 8:55am On Feb 12, 2015
barcanista:
BAD Policy! I don't support this one bit. How do they expect local manufacturers to compete with importers of cars considering the preference Nigerians have for imported goods? We are supposed to be thinking of overcoming the curse of import? This is a bad policy to my

even though we've had a few e-clashes, I admire your (sometimes) balanced view on topics

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by talktimi(m): 9:03am On Feb 12, 2015
A professor said he will be trucking gas from ph to a power plant in Sokoto or Bauchi and some lunatics are clapping for him. I shake my head for our "intellectual" youths. Musiwa has been right all along

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 9:04am On Feb 12, 2015
talktimi:
even though we've had a few e-clashes, I admire your (sometimes) balanced view on topics
Thanks. We are brothers remember... I support the Automobile policy of this government though I feel that they can do more. Reversing the policy high tarrif on automobile import or lifting it is counter productive. I will even support 80% tarriff so as to discourage patronage to favor local production. However, the government should see that they check the influx of such goods via illegal routes
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by Nobody: 9:28am On Feb 12, 2015
asha80:
all power generated by any power plant in the country is channeled to a central national grid that is in turn redistributed all round the country rather than that power generated in that power plant being used within the geographical area that power is generated thereby reducing power loss during the transmission to the so called national grid
That is no longer the situation. There is what hi now called embedded generation that allows any individual, corporate body or govt at any level to generate power and distribute locally. All you have to do is apply to NERC for licence to build an embedded power plant and work with the decentralized distribution companies to achieve that
Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by BlackTechnology: 9:58am On Feb 12, 2015
shocked Height of economic stupidity undecided


Instead of thinking of how to encourage local production, these clowns are advocating importation


APC will ruin Nigeria's economy cool

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by BlackTechnology: 10:11am On Feb 12, 2015
mrmetoo1:


Seriously will you, at this point, let go of buying your Range or even your Toyota for Innoson? The point is, the policy is still immature. Those tariffs are nothing but a headache for right now. If Nissan comes in and starts full operation, I can understand how you might want to impose a high tariff on imported Nissan vehicles. Then a lot has to go in place before the high tariffs can really work, our credit system has to be implroved so that people will be able to afford this brand new cars. Importing still provides a life line for people that want to have decent cars without shelling out money for a brand new one.

These tariffs have really been a pain in the butt. 35% is way too high and their plan is to increase to 70%, that's just crazy.


Economic illiterate


Do jobs fall from heaven


If you fail to encourage local production, how do you think jobs will spring up


You guys insult the President over unemployment and when some of his policies will encourage job creation, you guys still oppose it



undecided

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by asha80(m): 10:13am On Feb 12, 2015
BlackTechnology:



Economic illiterate


Do jobs fall from heaven


If you fail to encourage local production, how do you think jobs will spring up


You guys insult the President over unemployment and when some of his policies will encourage job creation, you guys still oppose it



undecided
lol @economic illiterate.

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by BlackTechnology: 10:14am On Feb 12, 2015
barcanista:
BAD Policy! I don't support this one bit. How do they expect local manufacturers to compete with importers of cars considering the preference Nigerians have for imported goods? We are supposed to be thinking of overcoming the curse of importation. This is a bad policy to my


Now its clear you are learning


Welcome to the smart economic club. cool

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Re: APC Will Slash Tariffs On Imported Cars -osinbajo by BlackTechnology: 10:17am On Feb 12, 2015
asha80:
lol @economic illiterate.


Even Barcanista rejected the prof's senseless policy


We want jobs

Pls

Encourage industrialisation wink

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