Msauza:
Nigerian politicians literally fought with fists in the parliament recently. Do you remember?
Well, about arming your Agusta, I hope it would SA to test it first. I heard they have completely hijacked your Air force. They command your fleet.

give proof that our politician 'literally' fought with fists in the parliament.
their arent any south african piloting our military aircrafts.

EVarn:
give proof that our politician 'literally' fought with fists in the parliament.
their arent any south african piloting our military aircrafts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mtoucTT3o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1x8e_47hWI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZulEt2h5c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeS102JrTvA

When I say you say things without thinking, I mean it.

DieVluit:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mtoucTT3o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1x8e_47hWI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZulEt2h5c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeS102JrTvA

When I say you say things without thinking, I mean it.

i knew that you would come here with an armload of old videos.those vigorous disagreements in the videos broke out due to proposition of provocative bills,not due to the whims of a power hungry madman as is the case of SA.

FighterPilot:
No false stories but only confirmed stories with sources, yet you don't provide yours to counter our claim. You just only claim because you want to. You can never deny the facts.

Msauza:


Yet you make us tired by not quoting a source to debunk claims by our government and media. Please give us a source.

SOURCE REPEATED MANY TIMES...YOUR PHANTOM CLAIMS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED BY YOUR OWN SANDF OFFICIAL SOURCES :

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria

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Your request below.

EVarn:
give proof that our politician 'literally' fought with fists in the parliament.

Request duly complied with.

Post below irrelevant.

EVarn:
i knew that you would come here with an armload of old videos.those vigorous disagreements in the videos broke out due to proposition of provocative bills,not due to the whims of a power hungry madman as is the case of SA.

agaugust:


SOURCE REPEATED MANY TIMES...YOUR PHANTOM CLAIMS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED BY YOUR OWN SANDF OFFICIAL SOURCES :

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria

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I do not deny that SANDF was unaware of the mercenaries until a white newspaper Beeld reported about it. SANDF does not keep track nor trace whereabouts of ex-soldiers. Most mercenaries are white and beeld being a white newspaper very close to them revealed the story.

EVarn:
give proof that our politician 'literally' fought with fists in the parliament.
their arent any south african piloting our military aircrafts.

Oh!! I forgot that you are currently in SA and have since forsaken your country. That's why you didn't know about such development which dominated the world news recently.

FighterPilot:
[size=18]After all, these serves as an evidence that Nigerian military is not a powerful force in Africa. It is just an army which has been granted glory for the work which have been achieved under the belt and arms of the UN. It is just an army which deceived many people about their capability which in actual fact was not genuine. All which they have achieved was in collaboration with other forces.[/size]

may you should challenge them conventionally and see how weak they are...by the way kudos to you for been over fed with west media false propaganda or Nigerian political krone um crab cub D;

Scholes007:

may you should challenge them conventionally and see how weak they are...by the way kudos to you for been over fed with west media false propaganda or Nigerian political krone um crab cub D;

They would be shattered even before they started. The world would hate us for ever attacking the vulnerable country.

EVarn:
i knew that you would come here with an armload of old videos.those vigorous disagreements in the videos broke out due to proposition of provocative bills,not due to the whims of a power hungry madman as is the case of SA.

It is not old dummy. it happened recently. So, didn't you say huh our parliament is not fighting? Your incident was even worse than that of South Africans.

http://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/western-africa/2014/11/20/tear-gas-nigeria-parliament/

EVarn:
okay,lets just ASSUME that your mercenaries are flying our jets and helicopters,how many aircrafts can they fly?,we have squadrons of different gunships,can your notorious mercenaries fly each and every one of them?.
tut tut tut tut.......
dont be ridiculous sweetheart,your mercenaries cannot fly a paper kite even if their beards depended on it.

Those Southies are fools on nairaland, South African mercenaries have NEVER flown jet fighters in their lives. Where is their airbase in South Africa and the name of the jets they fly? Zima will allow racist era white ex-soldiers to operate private air force inside South Africa? Nobody flies a jet fighter in combat without standard qualifying pilot hours of practice on a yearly regular basis.

Nigeria is Alpha jet master of this world, even Germany and France that built Alpha jet cannot match us, NAF has used Alpha jet in combat for 25 years. The NAF Alpha jets of today are new upgrades with laser guided bombs and other PGM. F-7 jet cannot be flown without training in China, so how does a local Soweto based mercenary fly F-7 supersonic jet?

SA mercenaries are obsolete rifle men of 1980s era, how will they train Nigeria to operate BTR-4 IFV that is ultra modern and entered service around 2010 ? Missile armed drones, ATR-42 Surveyor ELINT aircraft, equipment that even today's SANDF does not have, how will 1980s old mercenary from Soweto teach Nigeria to use it?

Norinco LG-3 AGL, BVP M80 IFV, latest generation of sophisticated equipments that never existed in apartheid era, how does a mercenary of 1980 operate that, talk less of teaching another person to use it.

Nigeria is flying Mi-35 Hind E combat helicopter gunship 2014 latest version with FLIR/TV and advanced avionics that no Southie mercenary has ever seen in his life time....only Russia can train a user on Hind E....how does a rifle man mercenary train NAF on ultra modern equipment that even SAAF and SANDF does not have today 2015 ?

Chief those Nairaland Southies are the fools I said they are
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Thiza:
SANDF

just a merry bunch of misfits

agaugust:


Those Southies are fools on nairaland, South African mercenaries have NEVER flown jet fighters in their lives. Where is their airbase in South Africa and the name of the jets they fly? Zima will allow racist era white ex-soldiers to operate private air force inside South Africa? Nobody flies a jet fighter in combat without standard qualifying pilot hours of practice on a yearly regular basis.

Nigeria is Alpha jet master of this world, even Germany and France that built Alpha jet cannot match us, NAF has used Alpha jet in combat for 25 years. The NAF Alpha jets of today are new upgrades with laser guided bombs and other PGM. F-7 jet cannot be flown without training in China, so how does a local Soweto based mercenary fly F-7 supersonic jet?

SA mercenaries are obsolete rifle men of 1980s era, how will they train Nigeria to operate BTR-4 IFV that is ultra modern and entered service around 2010 ? Missile armed drones, ATR-42 Surveyor ELINT aircraft, equipment that even today's SANDF does not have, how will 1980s old mercenary from Soweto teach Nigeria to use it?

Norinco LG-3 AGL, BVP M80 IFV, latest generation of sophisticated equipments that never existed in apartheid era, how does a mercenary of 1980 operate that, talk less of teaching another person to use it.

Nigeria is flying Mi-35 Hind E combat helicopter gunship 2014 latest version with FLIR/TV and advanced avionics that no Southie mercenary has ever seen in his life time....only Russia can train a user on Hind E....how does a rifle man mercenary train NAF on ultra modern equipment that even SAAF and SANDF does not have today 2015 ?

Chief those Nairaland Southies are the fools I said they are
.

Knowledge is power. Executive outcomes is made up of former fighter pilots, highly trained soldiers and special forces. Executive Outcomes used to own gunships particularly Hinds. They used them extensively in Sierra Leone and Indonesia. Most members of Executive Outcomes can fly helicopters and planes, they are well trained to e execute that.



http://www.mercenary-wars.net/e-o/sukhoi-bomber.html

FighterPilot:


Incorrect. My point of order is that many SA pilots who could not be granted security of their job in SA due to transformation policies in employment equity act, which required number of white pilots to be reduced and that of black pilots to be increased. Many of them are still very young and some of them joined civilian airlines and some private military firms which is now in your country. These people are used to carry out dirty job at the pay which is more than that of Jonathan.

you intentionally made that your comment not to make sense. for reasons best known to you.

DieVluit:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mtoucTT3o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1x8e_47hWI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZulEt2h5c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeS102JrTvA

When I say you say things without thinking, I mean it.

bunch of patriotic politicians laying every option on the table.

DictatorZAR:


Unlike you I've never been poor nor have I lived in a slum or ghetto. I'm one of those who will gladly kill any of you flat head foreign parasites selling drugs you fcvhk face.

By the way last time I checked your country is known for eating Ewi/Yei, rat meat so let's not even go there I'll expose your nations eating habits you fool.

give it up, you sound barely educated.
Your moniker is a deep reflection of your dimwitted emotional and intellectual constitution.

And admit it, you are not only unemployed, you are glaringly unemployable. You even sound more Ghanaian than south Africa.

I usually spurn your type into the reject-dustbin.
You dirtbag!!!

Msauza:


Knowledge is power. Executive outcomes is made up of former fighter pilots, highly trained soldiers and special forces. Executive Outcomes used to own gunships particularly Hinds. They used them extensively in Sierra Leone and Indonesia. Most members of Executive Outcomes can fly helicopters and planes, they are well trained to e execute that.



http://www.mercenary-wars.net/e-o/sukhoi-bomber.html

Do you know how long it takes to qualify from one aircraft to another not to talk about re-qualifying when you have been redundant for years? So South African mercenaries can now fly Alpha jets, F-7s, MI-35ms and drones

People see white personnel and the rumour starts that they are SA mercs. There have been Ukranian instructors on the Hind and other Eastern Europeans my friend, go and get a life.

If Nigeria is using PMCs, it would be for advice, not to fly combat missions or fight on the ground. So 100 SA mercs are taking on BH on multiple fronts abi. Cowboys. This is not a Hollywood photo-shoot, but real combat.

PS: Former SADf personnel are not SANDF anyway. They can't stand the current state of it.

rka1:

Do you know how long it takes to qualify from one aircraft to another not to talk about re-qualifying when you have been redundant for years? So South African mercenaries can now fly Alpha jets, F-7s, MI-35ms and drones
People see white personnel and the rumour starts that they are SA mercs. There have been Ukranian instructors on the Hind and other Eastern Europeans my friend, go and get a life.
If Nigeria is using PMCs, it would be for advice, not to fly combat missions or fight on the ground. So 100 SA mercs are taking on BH on multiple fronts abi. Cowboys. This is not a Hollywood photo-shoot, but real combat.
PS: Former SADf personnel are not SANDF anyway. They can't stand the current state of it.

The "rumour" started weeks before the pictures were even posted. In fact, you could remove the pictures and the evidence still remains. The evidence says categorically that there are South African mercenaries in Nigeria.

Your Ukranian instructor comment is meaningless because you cannot prove that the people in the picture are Ukranian instructors.

Therefore, that they are South African, you cannot deny.

FighterPilot:



You denying the facts which were also proved by SA government. One of my former colleague has also joined the company which has gone to Nigeria. Rather argue with the facts.


http://newsrescue.com/nigeria-charters-100-mercenaries-south-africa-help-fight-boko-haram-sa-fumes/#axzz3S1HAPIUy

One of my former colleague says they are not there. Argue with the facts. Show us a picture of the former colleague in Nigeria flying Hinds to which we have loads of pilots.

ThaVluit:


The "rumour" started weeks before the pictures were even posted. In fact, you could remove the pictures and the evidence still remains. The evidence says categorically that there are South African mercenaries in Nigeria.

Your Ukranian instructor comment is meaningless because you cannot prove that the people in the picture are Ukranian instructors.

Therefore, that they are South African, you cannot deny.

The last hind that crashed had a Ukranian co-pilot (instructor) on board. That's why the Obituary was just for the Nigerian Pilot.

rka1:

The last hind that crashed had a Ukranian co-pilot (instructor) on board. That's why the Obituary was just for the Nigerian Pilot.

That does not prove that the white people in the picture are Ukrainian. Fact is you don't know who those guys are. And because you don't know who they are, you can't say they are not South African.

rka1:


One of my former colleague says they are not there. Argue with the facts. Show us a picture of the former colleague in Nigeria flying Hinds to which we have loads of pilots.

"Facts" being what your phantom former colleague apparently said when you went to the loo this morning?

No, thanks dude. We'll pass on that.

ThaVluit:


That does not prove that the white people in the picture are Ukrainian. Fact is you don't know who those guys are. And because you don't know who they are, you can't say they are not South African.

And you can't say they are.

rka1:

And you can't say they are.

I can.

Tons of evidence has already been posted, showing that there are South African mercenaries in Nigeria. And the pictures have also been captioned accordingly.

The evidence is widely triangulated.

You have nothing.

And because you've accepted your inability to say who they are, you can't deny anything.

rka1:

One of my former colleague says they are not there. Argue with the facts. Show us a picture of the former colleague in Nigeria flying Hinds to which we have loads of pilots.

That is all lies.

Aircrafts operated by Executive Outcomes.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/gunships-for-hire-12048/

The relationship between executive outcomes and Nigerian military comes a long way.


http://www.soldiers-of-misfortune.com/history/eo-sierra-leone.htm

rka1:



Do you know how long it takes to qualify from one aircraft to another not to talk about re-qualifying when you have been redundant for years? So South African mercenaries can now fly Alpha jets, F-7s, MI-35ms and drones

People see white personnel and the rumour starts that they are SA mercs. There have been Ukranian instructors on the Hind and other Eastern Europeans my friend, go and get a life.

If Nigeria is using PMCs, it would be for advice, not to fly combat missions or fight on the ground. So 100 SA mercs are taking on BH on multiple fronts abi. Cowboys. This is not a Hollywood photo-shoot, but real combat.

PS: Former SADf personnel are not SANDF anyway. They can't stand the current state of it.

All of your aircrafts are nothing to EO pilots.

Msauza:


Oh!! I forgot that you are currently in SA and have since forsaken your country. That's why you didn't know about such development which dominated the world news recently.

[citation needed]

Msauza:


It is not old dummy. it happened recently. So, didn't you say huh our parliament is not fighting? Your incident was even worse than that of South Africans.

http://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/western-africa/2014/11/20/tear-gas-nigeria-parliament/

that is simply politics.
and it was played for a good reason,not because of a madman's thirst for power.

agaugust:


Chief EVarns, I stepped aside from this forum because South Africans could not stomach Nigerian militarys world class combat success rate at lightning speed of our final offensive, so the Southies began to mess up this thread with FALSE STORIES.

I left them alone to entertain themselves with rants, delusion, illusions and misinformation. Their problem, not mine.

Nigerian military seen in current training with white men are old trainings with Americans, or current training with Isrealis, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Romanians, including experts from private companies that sold us new weapons like PGM armed night combat Alpha jets, T-72 tanks, BVP M80 IFV, RM-70 MRLS, Gazelle combat helicopters, and Puma combat helicopters. Many of our new weapons are purchased from private companies that have contracts to train Nigerian military on use of new weapons they sold to us, that is world standard, you sell me weapons you train me how to use them. Some training with the European weapon dealers is done inside the Nigerian NE war zone because we cannot withdraw soldiers and pilots from battlefield and send them to Europe for training on every new weapon we just purchased.

When the forum recovers sanity, I will be commenting again regularly. For now, I leave the Southies to entertain themselves with delusions and illusions...a fool will always be a fool, so why worry?
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First, the Nigerian military is terrible

This can easily and simply be conluded by the way that your neighboring nations: Chad, Niger, Cameroon et al have dealt consecutive and massive defeats on Boko Haram from almost the instant they joined the fight, while Nigeria has for the past decade has tasted nothing but defeat and setbacks.

Fact remains that your military is incompetant and needs to be trained by foreigners - whilst ours does not, furthemore there is plenty of proof that South African contractors are in Nigeria training your men.

Sorry for you m8