Henry120:


Patches689 brought up "white men in a video", to support his argument.

You should tell him to provide proper evidence, same as you, to proof your wild imaginations.

From the video, the Nigerian military has nothing to hide, neither do we. We have said consistently, Israelis provide support to the military. The video is only another validation of this widely know fact.

The story about south-african mercs have been denied by both the Nigerian and South-African governments.

Proper evidence is all over this thread. You only chose to deal with the picture cause it's easy pickings, but it was never the main evidence - not even for Patches.

Yes - the Israelis provide support, but that does not disprove the fact that South African mercenaries are in Nigeria. The story of South African mercenaries in Nigeria has in fact NOT been denied by our minister of defence or our minister of foreign relations. In fact, they have expressed their unhappiness at the mercenary activities, with the minister of defence saying the mercenaries will be arrested upon their return. All this has been posted on this thread already.

iterator24:
I just don't get it, NA has been the one that was being trained by the US until nigeria terminated it citing odd practices. NAF however, has enough pilots and are even training in russia and Pakistan for the new incoming platforms. so, use common sense and stop being ignorant.

Perhaps, news of sadf in nigeria will make your girlfriends cum as you've not being able to get them to. I dont get all the fuss

leave that man. just got angry and decided to post a personal pics of our NAF boys in russia to that effect. although i would have to mes with the face a bit. i mean this south africans are the worst lot to get into an argument with. they all spring from the family of blind Batimus.

Henry120:


We are saying the exact same time. NSO changed to SSS.

damn dude. you know your history. NSO, yea! that was what i was cracking my head to remember.

ThaVluit:



The pictures and videos are not the primary evidence of the presence of South African mercenaries in Nigeria.

The story was there long before the emergence of the pictures or videos. So, dismissing the pictures and videos does not dismiss the story.

In fact, the whole picture and video thing is a strawman.

i just wish you know what you sound like. A DEFEATED FOOL .

what a goof

stillchris:

i just wish you know what you sound like. A DEFEATED FOOL .
what a goof

No thinking is required to shout "defeated fo0l".

But putting together a coherent argument is something different entirely.

Even a parrot can be taught to shout "defeated f00l". But it can't be taught to think intelligently.

Enough said:

“This is basically what made the deployment of the South African experts inevitable, in view of the fact that Nigeria was running out of time and there was the urgent need to substantially address the Boko Haram problem. The top military hierarchy and the Federal Government are trying to revamp our image which is at a record low, especially going by unprecedented breakthroughs recorded by troops from neighbouring countries,” the source explained.
READ MORE: http://www.naij.com/385393-boko-haram-nigeria-hires-sa-mercenaries-illegally.html

Henry120:


Thank you for bringing this up. The video shows white men providing technical support. The video also shows the same white men carrying Tavor-21 carbines.

South-Africans do not use the Tavor-21.

The Nigerian Army been supported do not also use the Tavor-21.

So, provide a guess which country the white guys come from?

South Africans will use whatever gun is readily available

pic related

Henry120:


Patches689 brought up "white men in a video", to support his argument.

You should tell him to provide proper evidence, same as you, to proof your wild imaginations.

From the video, the Nigerian military has nothing to hide, neither do we. We have said consistently, Israelis provide support to the military. The video is only another validation of this widely know fact.

The story about south-african mercs have been denied by both the Nigerian and South-African governments.

first, i refrenced the white men in the video as an example i was making

Second, multiple links have been posted on this forum. There is more than enough evidence

Patchesagain:


first, i refrenced the white men in the video as an example i was making

Second, multiple links have been posted on this forum. There is more than enough evidence

Nope, you weren't making any example. Israeli, pakistani and American contractors/military personnel have always been part of the Nigerian military.

Thing is, the Nigerian Army refutes those stories.

South-Africans do not use Tavor-21's, neither do the Nigerian army.

Only the Navy, Airforce and DSS use the Tavor in Nigeria.

ThaVluit:


Proper evidence is all over this thread. You only chose to deal with the picture cause it's easy pickings, but it was never the main evidence - not even for Patches.

Yes - the Israelis provide support, but that does not disprove the fact that South African mercenaries are in Nigeria. The story of South African mercenaries in Nigeria has in fact NOT been denied by our minister of defence or our minister of foreign relations. In fact, they have expressed their unhappiness at the mercenary activities, with the minister of defence saying the mercenaries will be arrested upon their return. All this has been posted on this thread already.

Like i've stated previously, the only Afrikanners who are in Nigeria, are basically on pilgrimage to christ embassy and the synagogue church.

The SANDF is in a dire state, truly your phantom mercs are needed in South-Africa, instead of their current homestead of Australia.

The Nigerian military refutes any of such claim.

I challenge you to provide a single name of any military personnel who corroborates your wishful report?

ThaVluit:
Enough said:

“This is basically what made the deployment of the South African experts inevitable, in view of the fact that Nigeria was running out of time and there was the urgent need to substantially address the Boko Haram problem. The top military hierarchy and the Federal Government are trying to revamp our image which is at a record low, especially going by unprecedented breakthroughs recorded by troops from neighbouring countries,” the source explained.
READ MORE: http://www.naij.com/385393-boko-haram-nigeria-hires-sa-mercenaries-illegally.html

He said, she said, they said.......... not a single name to substantiate these claims.

Yeah we've seen this before.

overhypedsteve:
from the holy land. Nigeria have had a long standing capacity building and skill transfer relationship with the jews. not only for the Army, i think it actually started with the Dss and now other agencies are joining in.

We need more cooperation with Israel and the US.

Henry120:


Nope, you weren't making any example. Israeli, pakistani and American contractors/military personnel have always been part of the Nigerian military.

Thing is, the Nigerian Army refutes those stories.

South-Africans do not use Tavor-21's, neither do the Nigerian army.

Only the Navy, Airforce and DSS use the Tavor in Nigeria.

First, no one is arguing about the Tavor. I never said those were specifically south africans, I was making an example of the role mercenaries play in training. If you cannot read, or have a low reading comprehension that is your problem not mine.

Second, multiple sources have confirmed South Africans are training Nigerians. You yourself say that mercenaries have been training your military for years - so why is it a shock that we are training you as well? Afterall, South Africans are the best mercenaries in the world.

Henry120:


Like i've stated previously, the only Afrikanners who are in Nigeria, are basically on pilgrimage to christ embassy and the synagogue church.

The SANDF is in a dire state, truly your phantom mercs are needed in South-Africa, instead of their current homestead of Australia.

The Nigerian military refutes any of such claim.

I challenge you to provide a single name of any military personnel who corroborates your wishful report?

1. Since being a mercenary in South Africa is illegal, a "pilgrimage" to the christ embassy would make an excellent cover.

2. SANDF is doing just fine, and is in a faar better state than your own military.

3. I dont have to, the story is all over the media. They have done their work for me.

Henry120:


He said, she said, they said.......... not a single name to substantiate these claims.

Yeah we've seen this before.

We have the name of at least two governmental ministers that have been posted already - against your claims that South African government had denied the story. A lie from you.

This is why the Nigerian Air Force needs training.


Nigeria blamed as civilians killed.

Niamey - At least 36 civilians were killed when a military plane bombed a funeral party in a Niger border village, the government said, in an incident its deputy mayor blamed on the Nigerian air force.

The air crew was likely to have mistaken the villagers, who had gathered near a mosque, for Boko Haram militants, Niger military sources in the nearby town of Bosso said.

The Nigerian military did not respond to Reuters' requests for comment about Tuesday's incident, into which the Niger government said it had launched an inquiry.

"Yesterday... an unidentified plane dropped a bomb on the village of Abadam-Niger... while the population was assembled near a mosque," the government said in statement read on state-owned television. "The provisional toll is 36 dead and 24 wounded."

The government decreed three days of national mourning.

"Two planes flew over Abadam on Tuesday afternoon. For me, with that very visible green colour, they were from Nigeria," Abadam's deputy mayor Youram Ari told Niger television station Labari late on Wednesday.

Abadam lies on the border with Nigeria around 13km southwest of Bosso, where thousands of soldiers from Chad and Niger are massed in preparation for operations against Boko Haram.

Abadam in next to a Nigerian village of the same name and military sources in Bosso earlier said the bomb had fallen in Nigeria.

Boko Haram, which is seeking to carve an Islamic emirate out of north-eastern Nigeria, killed an estimated 10 000 people there last year, and it is now expanding its zone of operations across the region's borders.

Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Benin are preparing a 8 700-strong force to combat the militants.

Patchesagain:


First, no one is arguing about the Tavor. I never said those were specifically south africans, I was making an example of the role mercenaries play in training. If you cannot read, or have a low reading comprehension that is your problem not mine.

Second, multiple sources have confirmed South Africans are training Nigerians. You yourself say that mercenaries have been training your military for years - so why is it a shock that we are training you as well? Afterall, South Africans are the best mercenaries in the world.

most of your claims by literary efforts have successfully built a solid imagery of stupidity of your real person.

Even if it were to be established that southafrican mercenaries are in Nigeria, they are not the sandf, they are probably former Anglo-dutch apartheid mass, cold blooded slaughterers of your kind.

The purported "sophistication" of the mythical and political SA mercenary do not morph into the superiority of the sandf which has been decaying since 1994 till this day.

Patchesagain:


First, no one is arguing about the Tavor. I never said those were specifically south africans, I was making an example of the role mercenaries play in training. If you cannot read, or have a low reading comprehension that is your problem not mine.

Second, multiple sources have confirmed South Africans are training Nigerians. You yourself say that mercenaries have been training your military for years - so why is it a shock that we are training you as well? Afterall, South Africans are the best mercenaries in the world.

First off, you made the white men in the video as a direct reference to South-African contractors in Nigeria. Your initial thought was to use the "white men" in the video as your yard stick.

Second, multiple sources have made multiple claims about non-existent south-Africans, the one source(Nigerian Armyy that should confirm, has blatantly refuted this claim.

So, provide us a credible source, and stop wasting your time.

ThaVluit:



We have the name of at least two governmental ministers that have been posted already - against your claims that South African government had denied the story. A lie from you.

What names, your obese minister making claims or your defence spokesperson who has denied categorically the story .

lezz:
most of your claims by literary efforts have successfully built a solid imagery of stupidity of your real person.

Even if it were to be established that southafrican mercenaries are in Nigeria, they are not the sandf, they are probably former Anglo-dutch apartheid mass, cold blooded slaughterers of your kind.

The purported "sophistication" of the mythical and political SA mercenary do not morph into the superiority of the sandf which has been decaying since 1994 till this day.

Men from the SANDF become mercenaries all the time, the Iraq war put massive strain on the SANDF and specialist elements of SAPSas skilled members left for better pay in the service of Mercanary comapanies.

Even Gadaffi tried to hire a team of men (who were at that time member of SAPS/SANDF) to act as his personal body-guards during the civil war. Maybe if he had, he would still be alive

Whilst the latest generation of South Africans are still leaders in the world of guns for hire - just take a look at Saracen International for example

Henry120:


First off, you made the white men in the video as a direct reference to South-African contractors in Nigeria. Your initial thought was to use the "white men" in the video as your yard stick.

What i said was:

Many men will simply be there as "teachers" - passing on knowledge to infantry about small squad tactics, maneuvers, CQB, bush warfare etc - A video posted on this forum very recently showed "white" men doing just that. And my bet is that the majority who were sent will be either "teaching" at training camps or advising in the field (being embedded with command) with a handfull providing more skilled training to air-crew or command elements.

First learn to read, then come argue with me.

Patchesagain:


1. Since being a mercenary in South Africa is illegal, a "pilgrimage" to the christ embassy would make an excellent cover.

2. SANDF is doing just fine, and is in a faar better state than your own military.

3. I dont have to, the story is all over the media. They have done their work for me.

1. Afrikanners going to church.

2. The SANDF is in a sad state, a confirmation we've trashed on many occasions here.

3. There is no story.

Henry120:



1. Afrikanners going to church.

2. The SANDF is in a sad state, a confirmation we've trashed on many occasions here.

3. There is no story.

1. A perfect cover

2. A sad state maybe, but an infinitely better state than your military.

3. Yes there is, its being covered by allmost every media outlet in the globe

Patchesagain:


What i said was:

Many men will simply be there as "teachers" - passing on knowledge to infantry about small squad tactics, maneuvers, CQB, bush warfare etc - A video posted on this forum very recently showed "white" men doing just that. And my bet is that the majority who were sent will be either "teaching" at training camps or advising in the field (being embedded with command) with a handfull providing more skilled training to air-crew or command elements.

First learn to read, then come argue with me.

There have been many videos and pictures showing white men. It is and never was an issue.

Your plot was to somehow spin the "white people" in the video to suit your narrative of them been south-africans.

Henry120:


There have been many videos and pictures showing white men. It is and never was an issue.

Your plot was to somehow spin the "white people" in the video to suit your narrative of them been south-africans.

Point out my "plot"

I reposted what I said, plain as day.

Your inability to read and comprehend does not mean there is a "plot", it simply means you are yet another victim of your countrys education system.

Patchesagain:


1. A perfect cover

2. A sad state maybe, but an infinitely better state than your military.

3. Yes there is, its being covered by allmost every media outlet in the globe

Still no proof, okay.

Henry120:


What names, your obese minister making claims or your defence spokesperson who has denied categorically the story .

The minister has much higher position than the spokesperson. We must listen to what the minister says.

Henry120:


Still no proof, okay.

Proof has been posted many times.

Review the archives.

Patchesagain:


Point out my "plot"

I reposted what I said, plain as day.

Your inability to read and comprehend does not mean there is a "plot", it simply means you are yet another victim of your countrys education system.

I'm very sure if those guys didn't have those Tavors, down the line, you would have claimed they are south-africans.

This was your game plan.

Patchesagain:


Proof has been posted many times.

Review the archives.

Not a single shred of evidence has been posted here. Until you can come up with any, i'm done with this topic.

Henry120:


There is no proof of so called "south-african contractors" in Nigeria.

The Nigerian military have denied it, same as the government of South-Africa.

You are confusing Afrikanners visting T.B joshua's churc

The government of SA has never denied any invasion of Nigeria by SA mercenaries. It was all over SA news and they confirmed it and unless there is a cover up that is propagated by the two countries to downplay the whole thing for the good cause of relations between the two countries.

Henry120:


Not a single shred of evidence has been posted here. Until you can come up with any, i'm done with this topic.

We gave proof and evidence through various citation that we quoted but instead you chose to deny and refute our statements without any source to counter out claim. You only deny because you only wish it was not so.